Open 449: Switch Mafia (Game Over)

[greygnarl]

VOTE: Potathou andrew beat me to it. Same reasons as him.

[greygnarl]

Your post while it makes sense doesn't clear you.

[greygnarl]

Sorry I fucked it up. Your post makes complete sense and it does clear you.

[greygnarl]

What?^

[greygnarl]

Whoops
UNVOTE:

[greygnarl]

Real quick: The kills were the vig and the scum right? I'm not sure whether the "switches" were activated. I thought switches just turned off a power. Are some switches just fluff and others ingame?

I feel like Daumis is a threat even if he is town. Loud and annoying players are almost always either scum or dumb(and thus useless)

[greygnarl]

Maybe if Mala wants to vote we can kill him. Early lynches are fun as hell.

[greygnarl]

VOTE: Daumis

Defend yourself or die scum!

[greygnarl]

Wait but the thing where everybody is "pressing the switch" that's just fluff right?

Totally forgot the SK.

pedit

Mala yes they are
You're right though.
UNVOTE:
If we lynch Daumis and he's town we could end up down four townies the next day.

[greygnarl]

He's almost too scummy to be scum. If he doesn't wind up being the lynch today I think he is definitely someone who needs to go before LYLO. He'd be a great vig target but until the mafia vig switch is removed (either by death or the sk disabling it) I don't see the vig doing much.

These were my thoughts, Also I thought that the switch was a onetime thing. Also, why would the mafia be pressing the vig switch so early? It seems like they would want the vig shooting.

I knew there was an SK when I signed up for the game. I don't remember seeing it in the setup when I read the start of the thread. That's why I kind of forgot about it.

[greygnarl]

That's fair.

[greygnarl]

Daumis come here to speak.

Use bullet points that seem extremely simple and explain what the intended consequences of your reaction test would've been.

[greygnarl]

@Potatouhou Potatouhou I have suspicions about you.

[greygnarl]

I'm suspiscous because you're so town. If you're not NK'd I feel like we have to lynch you.

[greygnarl]

So I had this nagging feeling. Whenever somebody takes control of the game it feels like they can't be lynched. I felt like I had to say something. However, I realized that just like whoever it was that said it, scum could choose to NK someone else and then set up a mislynch on Pota. that's why I made the awkward suspicions post. Then I realized if I just left it at that I would get called out on it over and over again.

[greygnarl]

Looking forward to Krazy's next post.

[greygnarl]

No, you're good. I just wanted to make sure you weren't as stupid as you were when you first came here. No offense.

I felt like your next post had the potential to really blow the game open. Don't ask me why.

[greygnarl]

I feel like Krazy is being good newb right now. He made a decent post. BTW Even as town I love to wagon up on people and throw my vote around.

@ Krazy havingfitz is right

and

are what I use all the time.
Also, I odn't really know, I just had a feeling you were going to make a real bad post for some reason.

[greygnarl]

screwed up the bold.

[greygnarl]

I may be "Joker"in many eye's, but all people can be assured that I am good guy in this game. Sadly at this point I still can't prove it, maybe some day cop will investigate me and find out the truth.

Wait there's a cop in this setup?

I kind of feel like malpascp is a bit scummy. His doubt of everything is just rubbing me the wrong way. He seems to be scumhunting on nullish tells. Not really sure if he's scum at this point. Pressure never hurt anyone though. Wagon up dudes.
VOTE: Malpascp

I was totally kidding about the cop thing by the way.

[greygnarl]

Well that's sad, doctor would have been great help.

Vote: Siveure DtTrikyp

obviouslly everyone who is town thinks this way, so this is just worthless.

No need to buy it, this day will end with my lynched, but I hope it will give information for townies.

So freaking dramatic. And also, the "I'ma townie" thing again.

I tell you, no normal player posts like this.

I'm pretty sure every player ever goes out of there way to state that they're town. From what I've seen anyway.

Also, after checking his ISO that's about my whole case. For some reason I thought there was more.

He is right about andrew though. That looks suspiscous.

[greygnarl]

Erm, I suggest cop investigating daumis is going to be a waste, as he isn't doing anything.

Investigate a good player, who will probably survive until your claim.

Daumis, you've done very little this game. Try to find scum. Being genuine in finding scum will prove your towniness.

Investigate Pota. He is definitely not a lynch target.

[greygnarl]

Why is that sad?

[greygnarl]

Daumis can you please respond to my post quoting you?

He's my scum number one, because he didn't give any reason and just voted against( might try to jump into a wagon)

And I voted against him for simple reason, I don't know how to play as townie, so at this point I try to learn from other.

That's shit reasoning. We were still in RVS. He could've voted you for any reason.

[greygnarl]

You play town by not acting guilty because you're a townie...not scum. Which right now you're doin a bad job of doing so.

Agree. I'm not sure if Daumis is scum. I've gotten a bunch of newb shit but no real tells. He is pissing me off though.

[greygnarl]

Cop investigate Pota. If he is scum we're screwed.

[greygnarl]

malpscum is where its at.

[greygnarl]

That's no reason not to vote.

[greygnarl]

@Krazy, please follow the damn rules, everybody in every game I've ever played has followed them. You even said you were just to lazy to add brackets.

[ b ] Vote: Voidedmafia [ / b ] without the spaces makes a vote. So does
[ vote ] Voidedmafia [ /vote ]

[greygnarl]

malpa make a post defending yourself when you sober up.

[greygnarl]

FOS Krazy
Stop this shit and play the game.

[greygnarl]

I'm going to do the meta check Tajun was talking about on malp, be back later.

[greygnarl]

VOTE: Siveure DtTrikyp

EXPLAIN THAT SHIT NOW!!!!!!!! I don't get where that's coming from.

[greygnarl]

Sorry, that's from Hyperion. My bad.
UNVOTE:

Mod do you want to fix that tag?

Like that?

[greygnarl]

VOTE: Krazy
I'm pretty sure he isn't like this usually.

[greygnarl]

Went through malpascp's ISO and couldn't find a game he didn't replace out of.

[greygnarl]

VOTE: malp

Fuck off goddamnit. That or replace out like in every other game.

[greygnarl]

People rarely read the rules on here. I've been in games where people hadn't known the roles properly in an open set-up. I have been in games where people didn't realize scum had day-talk and then proceeded to try and lynch someone for suggesting so as if they had insider information.

Fair enough on Mala. What about Potato?

Why

must

Potato be town and not scum, or someone, let's say, a serial killer?

Discuss whatever you want about the switches. Don't care. Why stifle the conversation though considering the reasoning I pointed out? You seem to believe that people know, or at least should know the basic concept of the switches, and if that's so then how it is possible for scum to benefit at all from the conversation about switches?

What I've been asking the whole time.

[greygnarl]

Hoping that last line was a joke Pota.

@Hyp, yeah that looks bad. Thoughts were just that crazy was being kind of lurker garbage, I'd been considering him as a possible scum for a little but the fact that a wagon was forming seemed pretty interesting. He hadn't made any responses and being at L-2 never killed anybody.

[greygnarl]

VOTE: Daumis

Care to explain that garbage? You come in and sheep some people and then ask some questions? The last one seems like an RQS.

Daumis, I have some questions for you:

How does being dumb make you town?
Why do you sheep everybody?
Why can't you make a case instead of asking useless questions?
How was Carbon scum?

[greygnarl]

@ Daumis Go to Open 442, look at Kondi and that's what an RQS is. (He was mafia trying to catch wolves and it didn't work, but that's besides the point)

[greygnarl]

Daumis, explain why the red or blue question was needed.There are so many other reasons somebody would pick a color that that question was completely useless.

[greygnarl]

If it will come to the point where my lynch is unavoidable I will simple tell everything I know and hope this will help in the future. Also your trying to find out my information is quite scumy.

Why the hell wouldn't you tell us what you know right away? It would only help secure lynches. THIS IS SOME SERIOUSLY DUMB BULLSHIT IF YOU THINK HOLDING ON TO INFO IS GOOD.

[greygnarl]

Daumis probably thought he would be lynched because idiots always end up doing something scummy that makes them die even if they are town.(not saying he is)

Daumis, what would you reveal to us if your lynch were inevitable? A bunch of cached reads?

BTW, we have no way to confirm roles. Just thought that that kindof sucks. If it was vig/jail we could confirm so easy.

[greygnarl]

inb4 scumpullingadaumisdiediedie

[greygnarl]

groan Daumis is scum

This game is going nowhere. Lynching this scum will free up a PR and get us some results.

[greygnarl]

Why don't we lurkerlynch?

[greygnarl]

Why don't we actually try lynching someone that looks scummy?

My name is Greygnarl and I endorse that message too. Just that since we can't agree, I'll tell you who's scummy. Daumis is. Let's kill'em.

[greygnarl]

Malp if you think he's not scum and want a better lynch why don't you make a case for someone else and see what others think instead of just saying "Guys don't lynch him".
This makes you scummy in my eyes rather than town because you are saying you are uncomfortable with the way things are going, but you aren't trying to give us a better otipion.

You're just hoping he'll flip town so you can be like "See, I tried to stop a lynch"

THis actually brings up an interesting point. If malp is scum, still highly likely, then he could be doing the old Protect the Newb Townie to earn town points when he is Inevitably lynched.

[greygnarl]

@Jal why do people think I'm scummy?

[greygnarl]

The only one I've seen was Hyp.

[greygnarl]

Probably scum since he tries to protect me way to much, if I would die now in future he could be seen as a townie for protecting me.
Is what I anted to write before GG writed the same.

You just accused me of doing what I accused malp of doing.
I'M VOTING YOU! JUST BECAUSE I MAKE A BIT OF SPECULATION DOESN'T MEAN I BELIEVE THAT IT'S HAPPENING.

[greygnarl]

The only lynch that's close to being better is you malp.

[greygnarl]

GROOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN.

[greygnarl]

Uh, don't really think Potato qualifies as an "easy target".

[greygnarl]

Aunt Jemina is doing something that I always find scummy based on gut even though it makes zero sense to everyone else so bear with me. She is scum and sees a townie about to be lynched. Everyone is piling up on him/her. She doesn't think she really has a chance to stop the lynch so she makes a post or two saying how the townie isn't scum in order to gain towncred when he dies. Of course the logic in this is bad because she could be a townie trying to protect someone she legitimately feels is town. Krazy was playing pretty badly earlier. Daumis saying he is a townie instead of a PR looks liek a major tell to me. I can't beleive I missed it earlier but claiming PR would be a thousand times easier and might've given him an extra day to live.

[greygnarl]

whoops, got too many games going on right now.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: KrazyAuntie

[greygnarl]

Why?

[greygnarl]

This is going nowhere fast.

[greygnarl]

This game is so boring. We need to lynch before I kill myself.

[greygnarl]

Daumis, that is actually a good post. You seem like you are playing up the newbie angle a bit too much though. You need to post if youw ant the game to keep going though. If you're afraid to post then you probably need to replace out.

[greygnarl]

Daumis please. Think about your posts before you make them.

I'm not saying don't post, because you need to. I'm saying you need to try to make your posts seem like you're playing mafia and not just at a playground.

[greygnarl]

[greygnarl]

There is too little activity this game.

I think we should lynch malp or that other person I was saying was scummy.

[greygnarl]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=23054

Here's andrew derping.
Can we policy lynch Aunt Jemina please?
VOTE: Aunt Jemina

[greygnarl]

Gnarly, deary, I'm looking at andy's posts in that game and they look entirely different from his posts here. They look more constructive, original, and thoughtful there than here. What similarity do you see?

I haven't even looked at what he said here. You just wanted meta.

andrew get on, we are going to policy lynch her out of this game.

[greygnarl]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=23054

Here's andrew derping.
Can we policy lynch Aunt Jemina please?
VOTE: Aunt Jemina

It's always been. If other people want to lynch her as scum then they're welcome to it. I have had enough of this game. Auntie is pissing me off and needs to die.

[greygnarl]

We are lynching Aunt Jemina.

1.)Policy
2.)Krazy was as scummy as most of the others
3.)Policy
and 4.)Policy

Jal get your shit together and get on the wagon. You to Mala.

[greygnarl]

My bad. Still, we are getting this lynch regardless.

[greygnarl]

Policy Lynch. Vote now or I'll lynch you for being a liar tomorrow.

[greygnarl]

The vote please. You know she's going to say something dumb like, "I'm just an old lady with no powers" or something like that.

We are policy lynching in order to preserve sanity. Thank you.

[greygnarl]

Also, she's at L-2. Pota or andrew can do the fakehammer shit.

[greygnarl]

Pota is not getting lynched. Neither is Daumis. Neither is Siv, andrew, malp, you, me, or anybody who doesn't role(username?)play. Sorry to burst your bubbles.

[greygnarl]

That makes her even more stupid.

[greygnarl]

I haven't even looked at what he said here. You just wanted meta.

And gnarly, deary, I'm pointing out that I'm not seeing how that game where he is town is similar to this game. So please explain to this old lady why that game, to you,

does

.

I cannot see where you guys are getting town on GG from. This screams annoyed town.

Tajun, deary, did you mean "scum on GG" or "annoyed scum"?

FESS UP! WHERE ARE THE REAL PANCAKES HIDDEN?

The scum took them away, deary. The reason I'm in this game is to take them back.

If it came down to it, gnarly is a better lynch than daummy, but neither is a good lynch. Both are sweet. I would much prefer a Sivvy lynch; does anyone see Sivvy as sweet? If so, please explain to this old lady how you came to that conclusion.

I'm saying that I'm not making a case on andrew based on meta. This is just a game I was in with him so I posted it. It was for your benefit, not mine.

[greygnarl]

How am I scummy malp? You aren't allowed to quote other players. I want you to say why I'm scummy. While your doing that lay a vote down on Auntie. I'll let you off teh hook for today while we kill her.

I'm going to be perfectly honest. We have no solid scumreads. Auntie's slot was under some suspicion when Krazy was around. Now we have no real clear leads to a lynch. A policy lynch on a scummy slot is about as good as it will get.

[greygnarl]

Krazy

malp was one but he seems to be null based on meta.

[greygnarl]

This game is boring me to tears though and the sheer amount of scum makes it impossible to safely lynch. I'll do some PoE in a second to try to help my mind. I still wouldn't mind a hammer because Auntie was playing like a fuck and Krazy was too.

[greygnarl]

I know there are four scums but by PoE and eliminating null and town reads I have deduced that I will lynch:

havingfitz
malpascp
Aunt Jemina

Read fitz' iso and you will see why. Others obvreasoning.

[greygnarl]

Auntie please guys.

[greygnarl]

Hyperion is town for his entry into the game. His town meta is to use all caps and long posts to derail lynches that he thinks are on VI.

[greygnarl]

Somebody else explained why Hyp was town and I gave my two cents.

[greygnarl]

She changed the name to kitty. Can we please lynch her? We have no way to confirm her with the switch and it's quite possible that she's lying. I don't feel like a counterclaim is necessary. I don't want to out the actual fucking vig.

[greygnarl]

Mal, deary, if I weren't the vig, the vig wouldn't counterclaim; the

vig would shoot me

. The possibilities are...

• I'm the vig: I vig, and I may or may not be confirmed. Either way, the scum can't afford to have me around forever.
  
• I'm scum of some kind. The vig vigs me, and I die.
  
• I'm scum of some kind. The vig vigs me, but it fails because the vigswitch ends up off OR am the SK with vig-immunity. The opposite scum type also wants me dead, thinking I'm either scum or the vig, neither of which should be allowed to live.

Regardless of which scenario, I'm dead within one or two night phases at most.

The vig can't shoot you because there's a FUCKING SWITCH. The only way the vig would shoot you is if scum or SK allowed them to.

[greygnarl]

If you're scum then they wouldn't want to shoot you cause they're on your team.

[greygnarl]

Vig counterclaiming gets them instalynched. We have no way to confirm her because of the switches. This is ridiculous.

[greygnarl]

I don't think she is the vig though.

Something that just crossed my mind. malp's posts have suddenly gotten way more intense. Seems odd that a vig claim would make him get this into it.

VOTE: malp

[greygnarl]

Pretty sure if I was scum I would've left the vig switch off because it's more likely they hit town. Just sayin.

I understand the switches now anyway. My mistake was that I have more than one game going so things can get mixed up.

[greygnarl]

Umm, he's not my buddy.

[greygnarl]

hyperion is town. He barges into games and tries to derail wagons on VI types.

[greygnarl]

By PoE I 'd say andrew, mala, or fitz.

[greygnarl]

And then Daumis was fucking obvtowner than he already was. Tajun was in the null stack. I can do a lynch on her.

Town

Siv
Hyp
Daumis
Jal

^That looks like such a buddying list.
The other three were there because fitz was giving me a weird feel, andrew usually is hard to read, and Mala's buddying with Pota is really odd now.

Ja

[greygnarl]

I'll not vote yet because Daumis will sheep and I don't want L-1 before she even gets back.

[greygnarl]

Yep.

[greygnarl]

[greygnarl]

Daumis town for being his stupidass reaction to getting wagoned. Hyp, that's about it and he hasn't done anything else especially scummy.

Jal, because she seems to be helping town and Siv trusts her. Yep that reasoning sucks. Rereading now.

[greygnarl]

Early you were palling around. Not much but it rubbed me the wrong way.

[greygnarl]

Seriously andrew? I'm saying I would've done what the scum did. I'm not saying they screwed up. Seriously get a grip.

fitz: I made the Auntie wagon. It was a policy lynch because the day was going nowhere.

[greygnarl]

STOP VOTING MY TOWNREADS!

[greygnarl]

VOTE: Jal[
Scumslips hardstyle.

[greygnarl]

Inc ase you can't tell I'm not reading this thread as close as I could be.

[greygnarl]

I'm 15.

[greygnarl]

Jal, fitz, andrew.

Fitz and Jal mostly. Cases tomorrow when I have computer access.

[greygnarl]

In another game I'm playing we just caught a scum for slipping as hard as a scum can slip.

[greygnarl]

Cop investigate Pota. If he is scum we're screwed.

My vote's stil in a good spot.

Krazy...stop complaining about your vote not being accepted...follow the simple simple rules...and vote. Is there someone you suspect? If so...why and vote. Ffs.

malpa...when your hangover is over could you tell us who you suspect and possibly show it with a vote?

Trying to deflect pressure on Pota?

Good Monday morning!

Welcome Jal....you seem competent. Yeah!

I like Tajun and Jal....everyone else makes me cry "Why!!!!????"

7 players have votes on them = town has no idea who scum is (because so many are coming across as scummy IMO).

Where did the krazy wagon go? Is he at least a candidate to be replaced?

mod?

Sheeping the active people in the game.

Still need to catch up in here. Only initial comment is surprise at vig shot going through. If scum screwed that up maybe they screwed up turning the cop off too. And no...I'm not asking the cop to say anything.

My main suspects atm are probably gg, Tajun and Daumis based on the fact they were on both the Auntie and malpa wagons at their peak.

Seems fake.

[greygnarl]

I'm going to do a complete 180 here so brace yourselves. After realizing that my play this game has been subpar I went back to reread the thread. With the new info on Pota being scum it seems like early on he is setting up a Daumis lynch while intentionally using a weak case. Possible reasons I can think of include: a)Easy mislynch that he can hop off of if it goes sour. b)Easy bus that can be hopped off of and explained with trying to get a reaction out of Daumis.

In all honetsy, the second seems very likely. Despite the fact that Pota is pressuring him, newbDaumis isn't very concerned. He lists him as town here

This is just my oppinion and should not be taken as actual accusions.
-Find people who would easily join bandwagoon CarbonFiber greygnarl
-Find people who would use logic to find out truth Potatouhou malpascp
-find people who would use my scum like action as distraction from themselves Tajun, KrazyEyeKilla7
That would be all from my side of view.

Then, when it feels like the wagon isn't picking up any speed, we get this from Om

I'm slowly beginning to think Daumis is just newbtown too. I might move my vote onto a better target for now.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: malpascp
Still same reasons as before.

I feel like Om would definitely have sacrificed a weak link in his scumteam to grab a bit of towncred if the Daumis lynch went through. He jumps off though because Daumis starts actually looking halfcompetent by using the words "reaction test" after actually making one. When Bitmap enters the game he goes after Daumis too, which makes me think that it was a predetermined strategy. That's here.

Jal's entry into the game is weird also. She goes after Pota a little which seems pretty good timing for a bus. There was pretty much no chance Pota was going to be lynched there so a relatively big post on him being scum would make her look good if he flipped later.

pedit have to go to my next class. Will respond in about 2-3 hours.

[greygnarl]

VOTE: Daumis
I thought I voted him first thing in that wall? My bad.

[greygnarl]

V/LA UNTIL MONDAY MORNING

[greygnarl]

I'm back. Not really sure what to think. Hyp comes back but really has othing new, that's not exactly surprising though.

[greygnarl]

I guess this means that I'm going to die but I'm going to say that I'm prettys sure the last two scum are in Tajun, Mala, and andrew.

[greygnarl]

He's confirmed scum.
Now reread Fritz, and they had pre start night which meant they chatted, do you still think Fritz is scum?

Sorry you said you started getting town vibes at post 740? Well this is 743 and you call him "confirmed scum"
Sorry Mala,
VOTE: Malakittens

[greygnarl]

Other reasoning is PoE and her buddying with Pota.

[greygnarl]

You were still on kwll after that post. Also, let's not clear fitz on the hydra thing. Bitmap made like two posts so he easily could've not posted in the QT. On the buddying, your whole tone with Pota is "old friends" even if you claimed to have him as scum. Also pretty sure you didn't have him as scum except for like one post where you tslked about him always calling you scum.

[greygnarl]

GG you tried pushing a lynch on AJ

because she was a vig

. I don't think town should have tried pushing for a PR lynch. Plus there was no counter claims.

Now you misrepresent. I was trying to push any lynch through at that point. It wasa ctually a policy lynch.

[greygnarl]

Shut it.

[greygnarl]

I'm starting doubt my read on Hyperion. I'm going to check his scum meta real quick.

[greygnarl]

Yeah but Pota was scum.

[greygnarl]

I'm aware. I know how to read the mod's post.

What aren't you understanding in my prior post?

Yeah so there's one scum left.

Tajun knows.

[greygnarl]

You're acting like Pota flipped town. That's weird.

[greygnarl]

Well scum's reads aren't really real, they're fake.

[greygnarl]

I tend not to worry about the switches because I'm more focused on the day play. That being said I realize that all the scumdars read me because I don't understand the setup. I actually do understand the setup. I jsut for got about the SK adn then the "pressing the switch" bit was me making sure I wan't missing anything huge.

That being said, my gut was right about Pota and now it's saying Mala, my PoE isn't the best, but andrew or Hyp is more likely now.

[greygnarl]

As a buddy.

[greygnarl]

I really am shooting in the dark but Mala you've been making me feel weird. I could see you doing some hard bussing of Pota.

[greygnarl]

Still don't like Mala. She's playing up her accusations on Om too much. I tell you that no townie points to their own scumreads to clear themselves.

[greygnarl]

HOW IS TELLING THE COP TO INVESTIGATE SCUM SOMETHING I NEED TO DEFEND MYSELF AGAINST?

In other news, I guess I'll go read up on what fitz is saying. I wrote it off because when he made that will post soon post I was so tempted to make an inb4 gg is scum post. He's been coming after me all game and I didn't really expect it to stop. My lynch seems pretty inevitable though.

When the fuck have I called Siv scum? He was my top townread Day 2 and is now. I'm starting to have doubts on my reads but he's still at the top of the town list.

[greygnarl]

Just realized GG was asking the cop to investigate Potato not because he was scummy but because he thought Potato was too townish to be lynched. This waters down any town cred this request could have had even more on top of the whole switch aspect IMO. This is then reiterated in Post 177.

When you are the cop, you don't investigate vigbait. You investigate people who are likely to surivive for a few more days. Pota was playing like a townie, but I had a weird gut feeling on him. I wanted to get him investigated.

And you're calling my suspicion of you an OMGUS, for real?

[greygnarl]

I know my town light(?) isn't exactly shining. In fact it's not shining at all. The thing is, pretty much everybody besides you and me had Pota as solid town. Just sayin.

[greygnarl]

Sorry about the attitude. It's not an actual attitude, more of a manufactured playstyle.

[greygnarl]

I haven't read any of your scum meta. Or any meta for that matter. Not sure how I feel about the bussing.

[greygnarl]

The tone of your psots just reads as a bus though.
UNVOTE:
I was trying to think of some proof but then I remembered this. In Masons and Mafia I called out you, McStab, and some other scum for bussing like behavior. I later jsut wrote it off as a silly thought when you flipped town. However, I was right about the other two but not you. You're just extra friendly I guess.

[greygnarl]

TOWN:
Mala
Siv
Tajun
Hyperion
andrew
fitz

I feel like ther ehas to be at least one scumd riving my wagon so it's either fitz or Hyp. andrew, Tajun, and the other one are possible buddies.
VOTE: fitz

[greygnarl]

dude cuz I'm not sure.

[greygnarl]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 8#p4424778
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 6#p4427766

It means formulating townreads and then finding scum in the remaining people. I get overeager sometimes in naming people townreads. It's a newbie msitake and I just lost a a game this morning because of it. I've now outgrown the too many townies stage of poe.

[greygnarl]

Not really a case yet. More of an idea that will evolve in to a case if I decide to reread the game. (Which I'll probably be doing if I don't get lazy.)

Read on Mala changed becasue it was gut about her interaction with AP and then I remembered that little gem.

[greygnarl]

Votecount 1.15:

Potatouhou - Malakittens
Daumis - andrew94, Potatouhou, Tajun, Jal
greygnarl - malpascp, Hyperion
Jal - Daums
Andrew - Aunt Jemina, Siv
Aunt Jemina - greygnarl,

havingfitz

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch and 6 to no-lynch.

The deadline is in (expired on 2012-10-26 14:43:35), or by 1:45 PM on October 26th, 2012.

Aunt Jemina is V/LA for the weekend.

Votecount 1.18:

Daumis - andrew94, Potatouhou, Jal
greygnarl - malpascp, Hyperion
Aunt Jemina - greygnarl,

havingfitz, Malakittens

, Daumis,

Tajun

(L-2)
Siv - Aunt Jemina

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch and 6 to no-lynch.

The deadline is in (expired on 2012-10-26 14:43:35), or by 1:45 PM on October 26th, 2012.

Votecount 1.21:

Daumis - Jal
greygnarl - malpascp, Hyperion, havingfitz
Aunt Jemina - greygnarl, Daumis,

Tajun,

Potatouhou,

Andrew94

(L-2)
Siv - Aunt Jemina
Potatouhou - Malakittens

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch and 6 to no-lynch.

The deadline is in (expired on 2012-10-26 14:43:35), or by 1:45 PM on October 26th, 2012.

These are the people who followed on the policy lynch trail. Pretty sure at least one scum is on there and fitz makes an appearance. Then, he disappears as the wagon starts to lose a bit of steam. I need to go look at the context since this is probably confirmation bias. Tajun and andrew are also suspect after this. Now I'm going to look at the Daumis lynch.


Also, just found this beauty.

Goddamnit, just lynch GreyGnarl since we're not going to get a lynch otherwise.

[greygnarl]

Votecount FINAL:

kwll -

Tajun, Andrew,

Jal, greygnarl, Malakittens (LYNCH)
greygnarl - Hyperion, havingfitz, kwll (L-2)

Not Voting- Siv

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch and to no-lynch.

The deadline is in (expired on 2012-11-20 14:54:58), or by 1:55 PM on November 20th, 2012.

Tajun and andrew. Starting to lean Tajun again.

[greygnarl]

If by soft you are referrin gto Open 438 that was my first game of mafia and since we had a generally respectful playerlist I didn't realize how much we were allowed to say. (As in I was afraid that saying "shit" or somethign liek that would get me a warning.

[greygnarl]

Yeah Om. And she was townie other than that little gut instinct of mine calling her scum so now she's my top townread.

[greygnarl]

I need to go look at the context since this is probably confirmation bias.

[greygnarl]

Well, i went to bed, and then you pointed it out. An now I'm a wake and I acknowledge that I was wrong.

[greygnarl]

Goddamnit, just lynch GreyGnarl since we're not going to get a lynch otherwise.

And remember when I pointed this out? Pretty sure this should be giving me major townpoints.

[greygnarl]

I was looking through Voided's ISO for the votecounts. Saw something interesting and went looking for context. Then I saw that.

[greygnarl]

UNVOTE: fitz
VOTE: Tajun

[greygnarl]

Tajun seems liek the best option right now. Or maybe andrew. Or maybe fitz. Gonna go read Pota's ISO.

[greygnarl]

lol at Tajun wanting me to defend myself even though I've stated that I have no defense.

[greygnarl]

VOTE: andrew
L-1

[greygnarl]

fitz has been on every wagon and Tajun is probably bussing. Or Hyperion is partner. Will read him in a sec.

[greygnarl]

um, you and fitz are prob scum? I really am having trouble generating any sort of case that I can use to convince people of things.

[greygnarl]

Scum: Tajun and one fo fitz/Hyp. Starting to lean HYp.
Town: Siv

[greygnarl]

I say we go back and look at each possible team. Even townreads and compare their interactions with each other and with Pota. I'll be looking at the Tajun/Hyp team to start.

[greygnarl]

Goodness, I totally forgot about the early game shit with fitz and Pota. fitz is town town town.

[greygnarl]

The hydra stuff and then Om trying to get a compromise lynch type thing on you and then him trying to buddy you afterward. Doesn't read as scum interaction.

[greygnarl]

I'm ready for Tajun, Hyperion lynch. Are you fitz?

[greygnarl]

I'm ready for Tajun, Hyperion lynch. Are you fitz?

Have you even made a case on either of them? Same question for Siv.

I don't know what to make of Tajun's reaction.

this not sure what you mean by the first part

[greygnarl]

My play was pretty bad. I can't believe that I yet again let scum talk e out of suspecting them.

[greygnarl]

meh