Open 454: JK9 Endgame

[Majiffy]

gnarlsbarkley - It's a pronunciation of my stage name's initials. By the by, gnarlsbarkley is your new nickname all game.

VOTE: PoPP
For being you, I guess.

[Majiffy]

And who the fuck votes me at the start of the game? You're a dick.

[Majiffy]

Hey pie You town this game too?

No, he's not. You can ascertain this by noting that I am voting him, and if you still feel unsure, you can reference the flow chart in my signature.

[Majiffy]

@Majiffy If I'm me and you're you, who's scum?

Also,

Lupo, please clarify if Gnarlsbarkley is at L-1 or L-2, you have him voting borkjerfkin but he self-voted at the top of the page.

If L-1, stating intent to hammer. Self voters deserve to burn.

[Majiffy]

VOTE: GnarlsBarkley
L-1

Sup DMS.

[Majiffy]

GnarlsBarkley's (god I love that)

<3

[Majiffy]

@Majiffy Have you covered yourself in stupid sauce before those last few posts? What possible reason do you have to hammer? None of this burn rubbish, what

genuine

reason...?

Self-voting yourself to L-1 on page 2 is not town behavior and does not benefit town whatsoever. This is a scum gambit.

[Majiffy]

Yeah, when I'm scum I try to get myself killed as quickly as possible too.

If you're the sauce, Gnarls is the pie. No wait, I'm the pie. Gnarls is the sauce and you're the jiffy clean trying to wipe town away.

You're not grasping the idea of "gambit" too well, are you?

Also, your analogies are... confusing me.

The entire point of this gambit was to see if someone would jump on my ass calling this a lame "scum gambit". While you were already on me, yelling quickhammer, quickhammer, looks really scummy, since you love meta I did that last game as scum and it cost me.

...

VOTE: PiggyGal

Why are you ignoring me?

But you were all for pushing my lynch through as quick as possible.

I've been doing this as well. And you continue to ignore me. Why are you afraid to get into an argument with me?

[Majiffy]

I also voted you on the basis of your self-vote being a scum gambit, of which you are currently voting Piggy for doing.
I also have been active in trying to get you lynched, of which you are currently chastising Mr. K for.
And when I ask you why you're ignoring me, you tell me to fuck off and that you're ignoring me because I'm not doing anything?

You deserve rope so badly.

[Majiffy]

@Majiffy -- what was gnarls trying to accomplish with this "gambit", in your opinion?

Too-scummy-to-be-scum WIFOM.

P-edit:
Gambit was my favorite character and I'm still emotionally torn over the fact that he didn't actually get into the movies until the Wolverine film...
And I'm aware, PoPP. Which is why I'm hounding him on it.

[Majiffy]

If you look in your ISO before that post you called me scum and said intent to hammer. You didn't toss a vote out immediately. That's not active and trying to get me lynched.

What did you do, stop reading my ISO after the second post? Stop deflecting and answer to the substance of my points.

[Majiffy]

Needs moar votes.

[Majiffy]

So when you flip scum, we should consider this a distancing act?

p-edit: you're forgetting my 43 btw.

[Majiffy]

My 43. Where I asked for the mod to clarify if you were at L-1 or L-2 before I placed my vote, and said that if you were at L-1 (you weren't, and when it was clarified that you weren't, I voted) I was stating intent to hammer.

Therein I also stated that self-voters deserve to burn.

You should probably read the thread.

[Majiffy]

"could even be considered fluff"? Are you fucking kidding me? It clearly elaborates on why I'm stating intent to hammer / voting you.

I'm saying that you're ignoring me. How you react to me helps me understand how you react to other players.

[Majiffy]

So you're not troubled by the fact that someone is voting you for reasons you feel are illegitimate? Particularly when their vote puts you at L-1?

Yes, I expect you to fight tooth and nail against your lynch. That's what town does. You look like scum that has given up because they don't know how to defend themselves.

[Majiffy]

I'd like to lynch both Mr.K and Grey. I prefer Grey

QFT

[Majiffy]

I'd have to go back and look at Piggy. She's been a relative non-presence thus far to me.

[Majiffy]

No, I jumped on your wagon pretty much exactly the way I do as town.

inb4 LOLOLSCUMSLIP.

[Majiffy]

@DMS and @Majiffy -- Why are you both ok with lynching Mr. K when you really haven't really even mentioned him at all?

I've been busy arguing with gnarlsbarkley, and you've done well enough on your own re: K.

He's officially tipped the weight though in his late-page-5 posts. I'll be voting him

as soon as I can see a vote count (mod?)

so I know I'm not quickhammering him.

[Majiffy]

Stillll waiting on a vote count.

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Mr. K
That's L-1.

[Majiffy]

No, I don't believe so.

[Majiffy]

Directing PRs save for autowin or mutual protect scenarios lets scum know what town is going to do at night and can thus plan accordingly.

[Majiffy]

Also there's only a JK and a Tracker in the setup.

[Majiffy]

Mr. K, final reads?

[Majiffy]

Oh gg was gnarlsbarkley, kay. I thought he was mockingly saying good game.

[Majiffy]

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T YOU CLAIM INSTEAD OF JUST CALLING US MORONS?

FUCK YOU, K.

[Majiffy]

Seriously, get the fuck off the forums and don't ever come back. You just completely played against your wincon.

[Majiffy]

Uh no. You made a post after you were at L-1 and two people had inquired about your claim. The fact you did not claim lays SOLELY on you, and I will whole-fucking-heartedly blame the shit out of you if we lose now.

[Majiffy]

You are the worst fucking mafia player ever. That was absolutely inexcusable.

[Majiffy]

Frankly, if d2 isn't over 24 hours after the thread opens, town should be ashamed of themselves. GnarlsBarkley dies tomorrow, no exceptions.

[Majiffy]

VOTE: GnarlsBarkley
The lynch that should have been.

[Majiffy]

I've explained my reads on D1. You're still scum. And now you're trying to strawman the argument.

Die scum, die.

[Majiffy]

Piggy, seriously? Get some real fucking reads.

[Majiffy]

You should reread the post you're referring to.

Oh wait,

Majiffy is Jailkeeper too since he says I need to die

. Thank god there are multiple JK's

and we can trust anybody who breadcrumbs/doesn't explain their reads.

I've explained my reads on D1.

You're still scum.

And now you're trying to strawman the argument.

Does this make it easier for you to understand, fucknuts?

[Majiffy]

Sigh

He was explaining how Piggy's sheeping of DMS doesn't make any sense, not that he really thinks you're crumbing JK.

I understand what he was explaining. I'm just saying that he's strawmanning it.

SIGH.

[Majiffy]

Because we have too many retards that think their votes mean something

#americanpolitics

[Majiffy]

Since when was GreyGnarl a Town.

[Majiffy]

^ What he said

Also, I'm almost out of Youtube Hell. Wish me luck, I only have 4 open tabs left!

ebwop: Jesus.

[Majiffy]

Oh wait that was supposed to be p-edit instead of ebwop... Whatever.

Back to youtube.

[Majiffy]

You're not going to make a case because no one reads them and cases are for scum? Are you fucking kidding me?

[Majiffy]

The moment I think someone says something scummier than GnarlsBarkley, I'm always proven wrong.

[Majiffy]

Majiffy, do you, as town, read someone else's case and go "Oh yeah, that's totally true, let's follow what that guy is saying and lynch this guy they're suspicious of!" No, because that's called sheeping and people lynch you for it.
Do you, as town, make a huge-ass wall post on how someone is scum, expecting to having the town flock after your read because you made the best case in the world?

The majority of players I've found nowadays would say no to both those questions, but yes if they're scum.

1) Yes, and it's not sheeping, it's called "being convinced by a good case". Sheeping is just voting because you like the person, don't give a fuck, etc.
2) Yes. And if town DOESN'T read it, I reckon they're all a bunch of dolts who didn't take the time to check out the flow chart in my signature.

Also VOTE: Piggy

I would love, more than anything, to policy lynch gnarl for being such a VI and not even having the set-up right on day 2, but since that will lead us into mylo, I'd rather not. Small games do not have the luxury of having a policy lynch, and that's what I feel everyone is on gnarl's case about.

This screams scum trying to start a wagon on a person they know is town for reasons they can later shrug off as "eh, he deserved it".

[Majiffy]

PoPP stop being a non-presence. Where the fux you at, jiggah?

[Majiffy]

Hunter hasn't been posting, he was obviously flaking. You, on the other hand, have been posting. And I want to see more of it. Why do you need to come in here defensively instead of doing something constructive with your two posts?

[Majiffy]

@Majiffy Tell me, what are your thoughts on Gnarls vs Piggy? You wanted a quicklynch, now others are getting distracted. What do you want to see happen and why?

As long as the day ends with one of them dead, I'm a happy man.

Not certain on them being scum together though. I tend not to look for associative tells until I get a scum flip.

[Majiffy]

Usually the top 2 aren't BOTH scum.

It does happen, but rarely.

[Majiffy]

Well a replacement had better hurry up then. This game is in danger of stagnating.

[Majiffy]

*Sila has 50% less posts than bork.

[Majiffy]

Except maybe you Majiffy.

It's not easy being the best.

[Majiffy]

I'm having doubts myself. This is reading quite sincere.

[Majiffy]

Sincerity at L-1 doesn't outweigh some of the shit she's said earlier.

[Majiffy]

[Majiffy]

Gnarls you're making it very tempting to switch wagons onto you.

[Majiffy]

VOTE: GnarlsBarkley

This is the better lynch. Pecan is right.

[Majiffy]

I don't understand how you can't look at posts like these and not think scum, bork.

As bork said, Piggy is the main item right now.

Piggy is trying to play up the "townie who thinks they're lynched angle"
It is ridiculous to believe anything she says at L-1 like this. All she's trying to do is distract us from her lynch.

[Majiffy]

Nah there's a difference. DMS is actually actively pushing Grey. Grey is just attacking Piggy.

[Majiffy]

If we lynch Piggy today can we lynch GnarlsBarkley tomorrow? Pretty please?

[Majiffy]

You think they can't be scum together? Piggy has gone out of her way not to vote Gnarl.

[Majiffy]

I don't know, I've never been much for team-tells.

[Majiffy]

As long as the day ends with one of them dead, I'm a happy man.

[Majiffy]

You guys are going for any and every lynch

... 2 people?

[Majiffy]

This game is making me head-desk hard.

[Majiffy]

Oh ffs

[Majiffy]

He hasn't pinged me as scum.

And I'm kind of pissed that both the wagons I want today have categorically died.

[Majiffy]

[Majiffy]

And scum continues to be scum.

[Majiffy]

That's not very nice. If I don't post again in 30 minutes, consider me hanged in my closet.

I'm going to miss you, DMS

Uhh posting essentially to say I'm going to be in semi-zombie mode until Friday. I'll try to drop in regularly but won't be nearly as much as usual. Uhhh lynch GnarlsBarkley.

kbye.

[Majiffy]

That feel.

[Majiffy]

Alrighty I've skimmed over the game but now that I'm officially in I'll be reading it in depth. In the meantime if ya'll could give me the TL;DR of what has happened all game I'd appreciate it.

GnarlsBarkley claimed scum at the beginning of the game and has yet to be lynched somehow.

Come on guys.
GreyGnarl is willing to do anything to not get lynched. He is scum. It makes sense.

Preaching to the choir, brah.

[Majiffy]

Majiffy is the only one to respond to me. Are you high/drunk/both?

I'm drunk!

[Majiffy]

Only scum get drunk.

[Majiffy]

At least it wasn't 55.

[Majiffy]

I, for one, appreciated the gif.

[Majiffy]

I like this director guy.

[Majiffy]

That's fine I'm voting for grey.

[Majiffy]

I'm going to mentally read all of your posts in Bill Maher's voice.

[Majiffy]

So you probably have no idea why I made that comment, then.

[Majiffy]

I'm not disagreeing with any of that, it's just the 'new rule' thing.

[Majiffy]

PoPP did just post less than 24 hours ago... I don't know why you're under the impression he isn't coming back.

[Majiffy]

God now all we need is for Majiffy to vote director and we've got a nice SNAFU going on.

I was honestly thinking about it.

Quicklynch yesterday was bad and you should all feel bad.

Uhh... running off 3 hours of sleep and a 16 hour work day, so I'll check back in after my brain isn't short-circuiting.

So unless someone thinks that pie's night actions

don't

confirm Majiffy or bork, then I'm going to keep voting Gunny, and you should all too.

Bork is confirmed. I'm not.

Where the hell has Majiffy been? He's been on the site.

Juggling two jobs.

See you all in... I dunno, 4 hours? Fuck my life.

[Majiffy]

Well 4 hours turned into a nice 11.

Piggy and DMS' votes were both fucking awful yesterday. Which means I'm going to have to actually read back. So fuck you both for being scummy, I didn't want to have to do work.

[Majiffy]

VOTE: DMS

Seeing a lot of early-game interactions that scream team. Newbscum from Gnarls, EarlyConfBiasScum from DMS.

[Majiffy]

If I took the time to respond to every idiot in the world, I'd never get anything done.

[Majiffy]

You were, just a useful one.

[Majiffy]

Coerce you onto DMS, actually.

[Majiffy]

What do you mean, effort posting? As in putting in effort?

[Majiffy]

Probably because he can't passively sit back as the last scum?

[Majiffy]

The thing about associative tells is you look for links going both ways. Hurr durr.

[Majiffy]

Well the first two points are valid.

I didn't kill PoPP though.

[Majiffy]

[Majiffy]

Neither do your empty statements.

What, exactly, are you trying to do here?

[Majiffy]

Nice OMGUS ya got there.

Silavor lynch was stupid because of the lack of discussion. PoPP had reason to vote quickly, he was the JK who jailed Sila. Bork had reason to hammer, he was being jailed the next night and would be confirmed. You and Piggy, on the other hand, should have opened the floor to discussion. The entire day lasted all of what, 3 hours?

Also I like how you deflect my vote on you as scummy because I didn't try to convince people of Piggy being town. Who do I need to convince? You're the only one on her.

p-edit: oh boy one-liners.

[Majiffy]

until

right before

I hammered.

Key words, derpherp.

[Majiffy]

Why THE FUCK do you suspect Majiffy, Piggy?

This coming from the guy voting me.

Here's your slip.

[Majiffy]

Bork... da faq you talking about? How is that a scum slip? Scum would have no indication what-so-ever of who pie was going to jail more than town did.

I was reading it like he was condemning you guys for voting Silavor but not me for doing it because we all knew I was getting jailed.

I was condemning people for not discussing instead of quicklynching. The wagon made sense. Ending a day in 3 hours did not.

[Majiffy]

She gave no fucking reasons as to why she's calling you a scum when I'm not.
You don't see a problem with that?

From a POV where Director didn't hammer me with two votes on me, no.

[Majiffy]

So tell us, what would you have done?
Sit there for 3 weeks and discuss all possible stuff that could have happened?
Why do you think Silavor was attacked?
PoPP claimed guilty result on Silavor goddammit

Yes, why the hell not?
And obviously it wasn't a guilty report, Sila didn't flip scum.

[Majiffy]

I don't even know what's going on anymore but ok.

[Majiffy]

I'm going to be happy when this game is over.

[Majiffy]

Sorry if you flip town. Your interactions look scum though.

[Majiffy]

Where is your Piggy case? I'll look at it over the night.

[Majiffy]

WHERE. WHERE oh where does it look Scum-to-Scum. Holy shit.
I pushed Gnarls from the get-go. Would a Scum do that to another scum?
I used offensive language to talk to Gnarls and his idiotic rants.
Eventually Gnarls was lynched. He flipped Scum. Why is that Scum on my part?

I've done all of those before, DMS.

Majiffy is probscum.

And you're probdumb.

[Majiffy]

=\

<3 I'll be nice in the post-game, promise. But really, you're being dumb.

[Majiffy]

Lol.

[Majiffy]

Alright well I gotta head off to work.

DMS link me to that piggy case please because as it stands right now I've got a few solid towntells from today.

p-edit: And also a dumbtell.

[Majiffy]

Shitting myself because of the current presidential projections of the eastern half of the US. I'll get to this in a few hours, after I get some shots in me.

[Majiffy]

Also VOTE: Piggy

BORK DONT BE SCUM BRO.

[Majiffy]

how the fuck is it even possible for me to be scum

I was being sarcastic...

[Majiffy]

k

[Majiffy]

And on that day, a God King won mafia.

[Majiffy]

Because God King.

[Majiffy]

I'm aware.

I nearly shot myself in the foot at day's end yesterday. But I think I recovered nicely.

[Majiffy]

I had tried to kill PoPP the night I was jailed btw so town could have had it so much worse.

But being able to no kill and trick town into lynching Sila was great to see.

[Majiffy]

Yeah director was a giant wtf muffin. Frankly, I left you alive because director was way too much of a liability and I couldn't trust him to think rationally and vote Piggy.

[Majiffy]

i'm requesting scum in 459, fuck this town shit.

Mebbe you can be scum with God King?

[Majiffy]

I know, right?

[Majiffy]

No, really, gnarl PMed me and asked me to do it. How can I resist a good troll?

We won.

[Majiffy]

[Majiffy]

DUNN DUNN DUNNNNNNN

[Majiffy]

[Majiffy]

I dunno, suspense, or something.

[Majiffy]

I was scum, we won, you guys lost, whatever. I hate dragging shit on.

Good game, though. I thought I was totally fucked coming into 3 way.

[Majiffy]

I was scum, we won, you guys lost, whatever. I hate dragging shit on.

Good game, though. I thought I was totally fucked coming into 3 way.

[Majiffy]

Because it was sub-optimal. I couldn't win in LYLO with you and director/bork.

[Majiffy]

Majiffy is God King.

ftfy

[Majiffy]

I'll get around to posting the scum QT probably when I wake up unless GnarlsBarkley can get to it before me.

Was there a dead QT?

[Majiffy]

What a let-down.

[Majiffy]

Wow! Just came back and saw how this ended.

I'm still pissed you jailed me the night I was going to kill you. We could have steamrolled so much harder.