Open 500 - Popcorn Mafia: Game Over!

[TheIrishPope]

Hi everyone! I am TheIrishPope! You may call me Irish, Pope, TIP, or any new nickname (no Irish jokes please)
Never played in this setup but I reckon it to be really Town-sided so let's win this nice and easy.

Fegelein is our first scum! Oil, shoot him now

[TheIrishPope]

I laugh at these Gambler fallacies. All slots are independent of past games. Hey, Oil, shoot Jacob for me.

[TheIrishPope]

Meh. Same shit I guess.
VOTE: SavageGuy

[TheIrishPope]

HA!
Funny.

[TheIrishPope]

Hi
Please sign your posts

[TheIrishPope]

So you are admitting you are scum?

[TheIrishPope]

Oh no, I believe it's called RQS
But thanks for admitting you're scum!
I am heart-broken </3

[TheIrishPope]

Hey, Nacho, shoot Jacob.
If he is Town you can kill me and it's win-win, right?

[TheIrishPope]

Oh, look at those nice questions.
Nacho --> Jacob, Jacob is scum, we win.
Nacho --> Jacob, Jacob is town, Nacho dies, Jacob gets gun.
Jacob --> TIP, TIP is town, Jacob dies, TIP gets gun.
Jacob --> TIP, TIP is scum, Town wins.

So we get a shitload of information by killing Jacob.

I would put the gun at good use.

[TheIrishPope]

Do you want to be shot?

[TheIrishPope]

Nacho, please don't shoot us, I don't wanna be the gun bearer again. Coming to a decision with two heads was hard enough, can't imagine how long it'll take for all three of us to come to a decision to shoot and it was nerve-wracking as fuck.

I find this extremely suspicious btw.

[TheIrishPope]

"Oh Nacho please don't shoot us because we will be revealed as scum"
You think we wouldn't have caught on?
I already answered your question.

[TheIrishPope]

I don't get why you want to be shot.

Given his join date, it's a newbie desperate for a strong role, or scum taking a really huge risk.

A 3 week difference gives you an edge?

Nacho --> Jacob, Jacob is scum, we win.
Nacho --> Jacob, Jacob is town, Nacho dies, Jacob gets gun.
Jacob --> TIP, TIP is town, Jacob dies, TIP gets gun.
Jacob --> TIP, TIP is scum, Town wins.

The middle two of these scenarios blow; how is this superior to just scumhunting normally? Why is it important that we go after Jacob of all people and not someone else?

Because Jacob, in my mind, is scum. So it is better to shoot him now.

Hey TIP, hey TIP.

Ever played in a hydra account before?

~Mala

Hi Mala. Never.

[TheIrishPope]

I would put the gun at good use.

This was the answer, really.
When one scum falls, it's a domino effect. It's a straight win for Town.
I am not Nacho. Please explain this to me.

[TheIrishPope]

Because Jacob, in my mind, is scum. So it is better to shoot him now

That's not really the angle you were pushing in the post I quoted. You said shooting him gives tons of information -- how is shooting him right now different than shooting someone else, infowise?

How do you possibly have a strong enough scumread on Jacob that you want him dead now? He hasn't posted a damn thing of value yet. It seems like you're trying to subtly push the information point to cover the fact that you want him dead with more confidence than your read on him should dictate.

Because it's better to shoot scum than to shoot Town?
I want everyone dead. I just want Jacob dead-er. You said it yourself: He hasn't posted a damn thing of value yet.

Let's just say there's something called hydra dissonant and depending how often you play with hydra's - you'll see it during the games.

You might find Mara's posts suspicious, but anyone who has been in a hydra might feel a different way because they have experienced how hard it is for two heads to come to a single decision on whatever decision it might be.

Why is Jacob scum?

~Mala

Hydra dissonance doesn't justify the subject at hand. If Nacho wants to shoot you, and your slot is Town, it shouldn't be too difficult. If you are scum, better for us.
Basically, your argument is "don't shoot us or this game we signed up for will be too hard"
Jacob is scum for the following reasons:
1. Following the Gambler's fallacy,
2. Not making an effort to scumhunt, and
3. Look at ISO#1. In his SECOND post, he asks why you are pressuring him. So I'm thinking Jacob and you three are part of the scum.

Yeah guys, attack arguments, not people.

[TheIrishPope]

Nacho, think: why would they choose you?
Because Kerberos knows you would never suspect her.

[TheIrishPope]

Nacho, gut instinct: Who would you shoot?
Feg knows what he's talking about.

[TheIrishPope]

What stops you from shooting now?

[TheIrishPope]

Mara you have no fully completed games with me *throws fireball*
I have never told him to shoot now. I'm just asking why he hasn't. Free will and stuff.

[TheIrishPope]

What reaction test?
Did I miss something?

[TheIrishPope]

She's telling the truth.
Unless you're her scum partner.

[TheIrishPope]

Feg, are you admitting you're her scum partner?

[TheIrishPope]

But you are scum.

[TheIrishPope]

You were my IC for two game days which lasted 36 hours at most. You knew my slot was Town from the beginning
Enough chit-chat.

I don't want Nacho to shoot us because I don't want to see him dead, that along with the fact that I wouldn't know WTF to do with the gun.

Loving this AtE.

[TheIrishPope]

Emphasis on the Nacho and Mollie bit. Kerberos is not Mollie. Mollie is only a third of Kerberos.
Scum team so far: Jacob for obvious reasons, Kerberos for defending and AtE, and notscience for using flawed logic.

I am no alt. Why do you ask?

[TheIrishPope]

Yeah because all these are never done by town.

What is? Explain this please.

AtE is not a scum-tell

I swear to god I taught you that TIP

and Scummy for defending...?

Nacho, yes Framed

I still hold that AtE is a scum-tell. There are different AtEs, but you are using the scum AtE.

And now Notscience gets put in the scum read pile for a terrible defence of Kerb.

(btw science, you got deMA'd for inactivity (not pertaining to game other people))

Feg is Town for now.
Unless he's sheeping.

[TheIrishPope]

AtE is not a scum-tell

I swear to god I taught you that TIP

and Scummy for defending...?

Nacho, yes Framed

I still hold that AtE is a scum-tell. There are different AtEs, but you are using the scum AtE.

huh.

you got my attention.

Explain the difference between scum and town AtE.

~Mara

Town AtE: "I'm so fucking pissed at these people misrepping me. I will be genuinely angry and shout at everyone."
Scum AtE: "I'm so fucking pissed at these people misrepping me. I will feign ignorance and try to be likeable."

The thing is, scum is more discreet and subtle, and tries to get on people's good side. Town knows he is right, but because nobody believes him, he just rages.

[TheIrishPope]

*cough* Scum *cough*

[TheIrishPope]

notscience, chill. You seem too overjoyed to be Town.
Well, I have pinned down 3/4 of the scumteam. The question is: Who is the final scum?

[TheIrishPope]

Don't shoot Wisdom when there are other people who are obviously scummier.

[TheIrishPope]

Oil thinks I'm scum?
Wat

[TheIrishPope]

JESUS CHRIST NACHO AND SYRY
Ok let's policy lynch them for shits and giggles

[TheIrishPope]

Implying we have any power over removing them.

Also I figured it out (I think). You guys are conf town, so if all of us end up as youguys that means you think we're town! yay I is smart :>

[TheIrishPope]

Implying we have any power over removing them.

Also I figured it out (I think). You guys are conf town, so if all of us end up as youguys that means you think we're town! yay I is smart :>

It is flawed logic and I am scum.

Hey, thanks!

[TheIrishPope]

I go with what works.
Also, you can't condemn me if I am right.

[TheIrishPope]

Right on what exactly? My logic isn't cut and dry, I don't think like the average Joe.

And I wasn't aware there was a role that could not only see role pms, but lie about them too! What is it called?

Wait wat

[TheIrishPope]

So Feg is admitting he is scum again.
FINAL SCUM TEAM: Jacob, Kerberos, notscience, Feg.
I was doubting on Feg because his skirmish with Wisdom did seem very genuine, but maaan you gotta refine your scum play!

[TheIrishPope]

ISO him.

[TheIrishPope]

Wow, I am being attacked by scum. I am under pressure.


notscience, we can't be certain you would get the gun.
We are certain you would die.
Because you are scum.

[TheIrishPope]

Of course I do.
Unless you are scum.

[TheIrishPope]

notscience, I am even more Town confirmed than Nacho and Syry.
"It's how I play" is never a good defence. You're scum, and we all know it.

[TheIrishPope]

Bert, uhm, gimme, like, your scumreads, and things, pwease

[TheIrishPope]

Would be fun.
Bert, you think you can waltz in 140 posts later and take control of this goddamn operation? Well do you?
Silly puppy.

[TheIrishPope]

You say you don't agree with my scum team, and then you post half of my scum team?
Wat.

[TheIrishPope]

Why would you name two more if you already have three?

[TheIrishPope]

*cough* AtE *cough*
NS, you are throwing out them scum tells like Kobe!
Be less obvious next time you play.

[TheIrishPope]

NS first says:

I don't get why you want to be shot.

Given his join date, it's a newbie desperate for a strong role, or scum taking a really huge risk.

And now she insists on wanting to be shot.
SCUUUUM

[TheIrishPope]

We did find scum.
You.

[TheIrishPope]

NS isn't being dumb... She purposely acts against what she says.

[TheIrishPope]

wow. skimmed. you idiots have been busy.

When you have contributed to the game, you earn the right to call us names. In the meanwhile, you are the idiot.

[TheIrishPope]

Nacho/Syry, given recent events, who would you shoot?

[TheIrishPope]

I see.
Who would you shoot second?

[TheIrishPope]

Then shoot Bert now. What's stopping you?

[TheIrishPope]

What is your plan?
And what stops you from shooting fast? (pun intended)

[TheIrishPope]

Fine, just shoot before deadline.
Bert! Hey Bert! Bert, hey! Bert! Bert!

[TheIrishPope]

Hi *waves*

[TheIrishPope]

wow. skimmed. you idiots have been busy.

When you have contributed to the game, you earn the right to call us names. In the meanwhile, you are the idiot.

w.
o.
w.
there is really no need for name calling.

anyways. i just gave you a list that could give us up to an 80% chance of hitting scum. i think thats a pretty good contribution.

How can you suck so much with only one post?

[TheIrishPope]

You're one to talk about cockiness
I have never told Oil to shoot you.
I am not tunneling. If I was, you would be my only scum read.
Typical scum play, trying to deflect your erroneous logic on me. Classy.
If you're gonna keep feeding me with logical fallacies, be my guest. Don't be sad when we shoot you though.

[TheIrishPope]

I am flabbergasted.
I am appalled.
I feel demicky.
NS is dasypygal.

[TheIrishPope]

Etymology: from Ancient Greek δασύς (dasus, “hairy, dense”) + πυγή (pugē, “buttocks”).
Adjective: dasypygal (comparative more dasypygal, superlative most dasypygal)
Having hairy buttocks.

[TheIrishPope]

And now you think voting for your partner will get you off the hook.

[TheIrishPope]

You just made me realised I am wrong! Thanks.

[TheIrishPope]

...
So why did you choose Oil as the gunbearer?

[TheIrishPope]

How can you possibly say NS is Town with all the evidence under your nose?

[TheIrishPope]

Wat is dis I dunt even

[TheIrishPope]

So, I vote we turn the spotlight to Savage. I'd like to see him not fly under the radar so hard. Lets see him actually try to help town please.

I'm going to be here a lot since I'm free this week from having to run errands. It seems like you are tired of the pressure on you. Now that you're here, who else (in addition to Jacob) would you like to turn the spotlight to?

I'm tired of the pressure on me because it happens every game and gets old after a while.

You've mentioned TIP as someone you'd potentially like to kill. I'm glad you cut out the "don't shoot me" stuff for a change.

His agression annoys me, and his non-acknowledgement of his tunneling as well. That's my main issue with him atm.

Props.

Why why why do you continue to use scum AtE?
"Oh I'm tired on him pressuring me and being right on me being scum"
"Oh it happens every game I'm the victim"
"Oh it's getting old"
And how the fuuuuck am I tunneling?

Was it necessary to put Oil in your list of town reads? Really?
People like AA9 and Jacob need to talk to us more. No clue why Jacob is any higher on your list than AA9, he's done about the same and he has MORE POSTS.

Stop it with the useless questions.
More posts =/= more town, you silly willy.

[TheIrishPope]

No one here thinks I'm scum because I don't go around scum-slipping like you my darling.

[TheIrishPope]

Then... I apologise because you make scummy posts and I have reason to believe you're scum?

[TheIrishPope]

>_>
<_<
^_^
V_V
I will laugh my brains out when you flip scum

[TheIrishPope]

I <3 syrlacious

Maaan, if there was ever an award for AtE, you win the whole damn thing sis!

[TheIrishPope]

Seriously Oil, isn't NS doing the exact same thing she told me not to do proof that she is scum?
And she's saying that EVERY SINGLE THING everyone does looks scummy or is scummy or comes off as scummy.
And now she resorts to the lurkers being scum.
SHOOT TEH SCUMZ SHOOT TEH SCUMZ SHOOT TEH SCUMZ SHOOT TEH SCUMZ

[TheIrishPope]

I apologise if I confuse someone with a pony avi for a woman
Of course! I am protecting my scum buddy!

[TheIrishPope]

These "attacks" by science make me cringe.
Might look at his meta.

Good, good.
Join my side.

[TheIrishPope]

Why why why do you keep repeating yourself if you know it looks scummy?
Instead of acting like you know it all, prove yourself as Town.

[TheIrishPope]

It's not how you see yourself; it's how others see you.
Try harder?
Oil, don't shoot NS. I want him alive.

[TheIrishPope]

Wisdom, of course Oil should shoot who we're voting for.
Jacob, come forth. It is your time to die.

[TheIrishPope]

If you're going to act continuously scummy, of course I'm going to tunnel. @Science.

Dis.

I doubt Oil will care about the fake vc at all.

Of course he won't but Nacho knows he should shoot Jacob

[TheIrishPope]

Do Town things.

[TheIrishPope]

In the meanwhile, how about you ask questions like a true townie...

[TheIrishPope]

I already posted the final scum team...

[TheIrishPope]

I'm thinking Wisdom is scum...
Shoot me? Seriously? The guy who has made the most posts after you?
Anyway, if you want to see my scum game, view my first game here

[TheIrishPope]

Talking to Oil, sorry
I'm just saying that he should reconsider his target.

[TheIrishPope]

Why me?

Between these three, who would you shoot, Bert? Me?

wut, how am I ignoring you?

huh? I wasted your time with mollie? How so?

Why am I out of your list again and feg back in?

I have seen this and used this as scum; you are self-aware. Very self-aware. You worry too much on your image. "Why me why me" "I did X I did Y" and your posts are really fluffy. I just can't see you as logical Town.

Bonus

Good catch

Subtle post to get me to like you and have a town read on you.

[TheIrishPope]

ATE IS A SCUMTELL LOLOLOL
Anyway, Wisdom, you were calling NS out for saying "it's how I play". And now you do the same. Not cool.

[TheIrishPope]

Oil Oil Oil Oil
Hi

[TheIrishPope]

How y'all doin'
Also, everyone, please answer this question seriously: Are you scum?
If you don't answer, you admit to being scum

[TheIrishPope]

Dunno, just bored
Also confused as to why people don't see me as confirmed town

[TheIrishPope]

Dunno, just bored
Also confused as to why people don't see me as confirmed town

The only confirmed town here is Oil (and myself, but only I am confirmed that thus far). Just saying. Why so worried about that?

Don't state the obvious pwease.
Not worried, just confused. People are not making good cases on my "untowniness"

Why would we see you as confirmed town?
And you never answered why how many posts you have means anything.

Wat
The
Fuck

Oil is the recipient of that information. It don't concern you, boy.

[TheIrishPope]

When you guys get the gun I will happily explain myself
Also if you make a good case against me we can talk

[TheIrishPope]

Oh geez, you guys are really persistent
I'm scared

[TheIrishPope]

Feg knows what he's talking about

[TheIrishPope]

Feg? My scum buddy? Him and me? Me and him?
I'm giggling at myself.
What was the question?

[TheIrishPope]

Hmmm...
I haven't done scummy things.
There are people who are doing scummier things.
Oil understands that being active is Town behavior, and my posts have no scum motivation.

I am worried that scum are changing the mindset of Town. I don't even see myself as scum. Why do you?

[TheIrishPope]

Wait, scum have daytalk?
You guys seem really coordinated.

[TheIrishPope]

Scum can never take a joke...
Let me point out that NS was angry because I was tunneling. Now he tunnels.
And that is Town behavior... why?

[TheIrishPope]

Then why were you saying I was tunneling?

[TheIrishPope]

Good point sir. If I may present a rebuttal:
You are wrong.
Don't even bother asking why. I will be surprised if you do flip town.

[TheIrishPope]

Hmmmmm

[TheIrishPope]

I have nothing to say at the moment
Nice gif

[TheIrishPope]

Slight scumread

[TheIrishPope]

What isn't what, Kerb? I didn't understand your opening sentence.

[TheIrishPope]

I guess we have to agree to disagree.

[TheIrishPope]

So, Mollie is pissed at me
Mala never posts
And Mara is just meh

Nice hydra

[TheIrishPope]

Because no one is posting

[TheIrishPope]

How have I been rude? Enlighten me.

[TheIrishPope]

I don't see it as rude...

[TheIrishPope]

Ok

[TheIrishPope]

I have got the answer!
Ok, think guys, what would be the only logical explanation for scum to choose Oil, a hydra?
Because a. they suck, or b. to further hydra dissonance
And this hydra doesn't suck! It has two great talented players
So the only logical answer must be:

Scum chose Oil for the heads to argue over who to shoot, making it harder

Now, ask yourselves: Why wouldn't they choose

Kerberos

, a

three

headed hydra?
Simple!

Kerberos is in a scum slot.

Oil, take this into serious consideration.

[TheIrishPope]

I agree that we should shoot the hydra, but not for don's reasons. Don's arguments suck.
But this is the most logical reason.

[TheIrishPope]

I am stating that scum did choose the hydra solely for the fact that they are a hydra.
I am saying they are scum. I don't talk of policy shooting, ever.
I side with his ends, but not his means.

[TheIrishPope]

Well, as I have pointed out, AtE (but Mara will kick my ass for saying this)
It's not. I am logically deducing Kerberos is scum. It is no policy shoot. Look up the definition.

NS are you admitting you are scum?
If you are not, answer this question: if you were scum, why would you choose Oil?

[TheIrishPope]

I wasn't in the pre-game discussion, so I wouldn't know...

[TheIrishPope]

No, I am including the fact that scum chose a hydra to be the gunbearer for one reason only: hydra dissonance. Gives scum more chance to survive.
And they couldn't choose Kerberos because, you know, scum.
Point out where my logic is flawed.
You are right! It has nothing to do with what they've done ingame. I'm still right though.

PEdit: Yes Mara, that was my case. Why else would they choose Oil?
Second PEdit: Every hydra argues.

[TheIrishPope]

Hydras are done so they are harder to read...

[TheIrishPope]

So you people are convinced I'm scum because I am scumhunting.
Seems legit.
Anyway, talk to Oil

[TheIrishPope]

Yeah, because you guys have really made an effort to find scum
Speculation is the basis of Mafia, silly NS
Scum wouldn't be this obvious

[TheIrishPope]

And now you're doing the same with me. I don't get it.

[TheIrishPope]

That was a fun gam Angel
To clarify, I was the Cult Leader
You need not worry about me, I'm town in this game
Compare my scum games and my CL game with my play here and it's pretty obvious

[TheIrishPope]

Oil I miss you

[TheIrishPope]

Because I have nothing else to say
Did I guess right?

[TheIrishPope]

Tell me what you had in mind

[TheIrishPope]

Wouldn't you agree that Town does the same thing?

[TheIrishPope]

Mmmmmkay
Wouldn't you agree that kissing up sarcastically as I did, then, would be a null tell, and not a scum tell?

[TheIrishPope]

What is your definition of blatant?
Also, do you believe sarcasm is a scumtell?

[TheIrishPope]

So it logically follows that my post was null to you, correct?

[TheIrishPope]

I see
Interesting you would say that

[TheIrishPope]

Breakfast at 9 PM?
Silly timezones

Bert, all I have to tell you is Wisdom is scum and NS is 75% scum

[TheIrishPope]

Not really, no

[TheIrishPope]

Yes

[TheIrishPope]

Follow your instincts, young one

[TheIrishPope]

And why are you so paranoid about me having a scumread on you?

[TheIrishPope]

Trying to feign your paranoia, eh?

[TheIrishPope]

I already explained why silly NS

[TheIrishPope]

Yeah, my play is weird
[sarcasm]

Guys I am actually the Town Doctor

[/sarcasm]

I never wanted the gun, it just annoys me that Oil doesn't tell us anything about who he thinks he will shoot or who he finds scummy or whatever
Just give us something for the love of god

Bert has not convinced me of being town
Kerb has still not convinced me of being town
Kerb how can you say I am tunneling if only three of us are posting
I'm not completely sure on NS being scum because he is acting weird, but I'll be surprised if he's not scum
Wisdom is totally scum, just ISO him and look for the silly paradoxes and contradictions

[TheIrishPope]

Mmmmkay
I see what you mean

[TheIrishPope]

Bert, make a case against me and explain why NS is town
Gogogo

[TheIrishPope]

Of course
It's only logical

I'm actually on my phone so I will make serious posts when I get home

[TheIrishPope]

Silly NS

[TheIrishPope]

Back. Here we go.

Who has convinced you of being town? And I'd like to hear what paradoxes and contradictions you have seen from Wisdom.

Your posts seem genuine
Feg seems cool with me
Other than that, I don't see anyone oozing Town

Let's look at this post made by the one and only Wisdom

Do you know how scum are able to form fake reads?
They just see who gets townread the most, who is the most obvious, and they fake a townread on them.
How do you counter that?
You keep your townreads to yourself.
So deal with it, you're not getting townreads off me.

Here he explicitly says townreads are not to be given away.
However, a quick search on his ISO reveals that he asked for other people's reads before and after this post.
Tell me how that is not a contradiction
And the question remains:

What's up with that?

[TheIrishPope]

NS, shh, it seems you are defending Wisdom too much
This was addressed to Wisdom
So let him answer

[TheIrishPope]

I believe your defence is called buddying, so no, I am not misrepping anything
ISO him and check for yourself. Make a case on why Wisdom is town gogogo
If not, you are scum

[TheIrishPope]

Your thought process is similar because you two are scum
Still waiting on that case sir

[TheIrishPope]

So you won't provide a case? Therefore admitting you are scum?

[TheIrishPope]

You never did make a case on Wisdom
Do so now

[TheIrishPope]

I am asking for people's reads because I am trying to read them. I'm mainly interested in who they scumread. If they refuse to give townreads for the same reasons I did, I will accept it.
Anything else?

Whaaaaaat
So, your plan is to gather other people's reads
But not deliver your own
In an attempt to... Win?

Yeah, my play is weird
[sarcasm]

Guys I am actually the Town Doctor

[/sarcasm]

I never wanted the gun, it just annoys me that Oil doesn't tell us anything about who he thinks he will shoot or who he finds scummy or whatever
Just give us something for the love of god

Bert has not convinced me of being town
Kerb has still not convinced me of being town
Kerb how can you say I am tunneling if only three of us are posting
I'm not completely sure on NS being scum because he is acting weird, but I'll be surprised if he's not scum
Wisdom is totally scum, just ISO him and look for the silly paradoxes and contradictions

Can you rank your scumreads rather than just throwing them into a pool and saying "shoot any of these?" If you had to choose now, who do you pick?

If I got the gun for whatever reason, I would have people vote for either NS or Wisdom. There's no way both of them are Town.

[TheIrishPope]

And why do you refuse to give Town reads while asking people for the same?

[TheIrishPope]

He has not answered my accusations.
And I have already answered my question, silly NS
Go back to bed

[TheIrishPope]

The one where I pretended to be drunk.

And why did he get a townread from that?

And that meant he's town?

Wisdom is possible

Huh? I thought you were townreading me..?

Some examples.
I still don't see how keeping your townreads to yourself is beneficial.

[TheIrishPope]

NS I have a serious problem with you advocating in favor of Wisdom. You're practically giving him the answers to defend himself.
Is this evidence that you see him as Town? So that, when you are shot, we know he is scum as well?

[TheIrishPope]

I haven't avoided any questions
Town questions as much as scum, so don't try to play that on me
Precisely my point. He is trying to influence townreads, while not even giving his own.

[TheIrishPope]

Quote them please, I'm not God
So your assumption is that Wisdom asking about a townread, while at the same time retaining his own is acceptable?

[TheIrishPope]

You are asking people to elaborate on those townreads.
Now isn't that the saddest story you've ever heard?

HD I think some people are in for a prodding

Mod Response

No one is currently due for a prod. ~HD

[TheIrishPope]

Dunno, just bored
Also confused as to why people don't see me as confirmed town

The only confirmed town here is Oil (and myself, but only I am confirmed that thus far). Just saying. Why so worried about that?

Don't state the obvious pwease.
Not worried, just confused. People are not making good cases on my "untowniness"

Why would we see you as confirmed town?
And you never answered why how many posts you have means anything.

Wat
The
Fuck

Oil is the recipient of that information. It don't concern you, boy.

Answered the first one. For the second one, I guess I could clarify:
You don't need to see me as town. The gunbearer needs to see me as town.
I don't think scum would post so much, but that's just a thought.

Again, Wisdom, asking people to elaborate and explain is the same thing as asking for townreads in the first place.

[TheIrishPope]

I don't think we can.

Why?

Guess.

Not what I had in mind, but this is correct too

When you're making short and useless posts like these, no, that does not clear you.
So you not giving townreads relates to your desire of preserving your figure and not to be seen as sheeping scum?
I think you worry too much about how you look.

[TheIrishPope]

True dat
In any case, I really think Oil should not shoot Wisdom, NS, or me.
It would be the best course of action.

[TheIrishPope]

That seems acceptable.
Still a bit worried on Kerb though.

[TheIrishPope]

You two do realise you don't die if you're shot, right?
Unless you're scum.
Which one of you at least are.

We won't die, but Town is hurt through the loss of Oil.

[TheIrishPope]

I guess

Now Wisdom has a point system
This is interesting

[TheIrishPope]

I'm not saying you shouldn't be shot. One of you is scum, I'm sure. I'd bet my sig on it. I just want you alive for D2.

[TheIrishPope]

If I had the gun, it is only logical to shoot either you or NS. However, I wouldn't shoot right away. I'd wait for people to weigh in on it.
If your question was more of a "gut feeling" type of thing, I'd shoot you. NS is more useful.

[TheIrishPope]

It would be D2 if I had the gun...

I see what you mean now. Oil should shoot either Jacob's replacement, or Kerb for my wacky theory.

[TheIrishPope]

I always saw him as scum. Look at my scum team post.

[TheIrishPope]

It is only logical from my point of view. I haven't seen many cases on others.

[TheIrishPope]

I have? I think I only saw someone calling Angel and Jacob out for lurking.
I should probably re-read.

[TheIrishPope]

Yes, Angel was posting in my cult game she talked about, and that struck me as odd. I don't think it's indicative of her alignment though. She is a pretty peculiar player. Check it out, that game was crazy. It is on my wiki.

[TheIrishPope]

Look at this nifty article I found!
"Taper off your posting as you go?" "Try to keep large but infrequent posts at first?" Why, isn't that strange! Because I recall someone in this game doing the exact same thing! (hint: look above this post)

[TheIrishPope]

Nah, it was really a flimsy attempt to have Bert react strangely.
i.e. reaction test.
And he failed.
i.e. I believe he is scum

Bert if you read the article, this stage of the game is not the one to make small frequent posts

[TheIrishPope]

Scum have a tendency to regard everything as a joke. Logic dictates he must be scum.
Alas, scumtells are never a sure thing.

[TheIrishPope]

That comment was a response to Wisdom's question, Bert. Read the thread.

It shows us that he's scummy scum scum?

Probably. I'm pretty inexperienced at finding scum - I've never actually "found" scum before. LOL.

And this isn't AtE? *cough* scum *cough*

[TheIrishPope]

Then why even mention AtE in your opening post?
I'm confused; what's your read on me?

[TheIrishPope]

I agree with NS.
Bert is too dumb to be scum.
No further comments.

[TheIrishPope]

Never underestimate. Dumbness can be faked.

My cult game win was based on that. Being a dummy myself, I can notice genuine dumbness.

Kerb: Wisdom, NS, and I had several talks
Bert walked in
And that's about it

[TheIrishPope]

Me? Scumzor? Nevar.

[TheIrishPope]

Before the game starts, mafia must elect a townie to be the gunbearer.

[TheIrishPope]

Mod Announcement

All eleven players have confirmed.

Oil Tycoons

are the

Gunbearer

; they are

Town

and you know this to be true.

[TheIrishPope]

Mollie read the thread esifdjvmsdofkcmpasdkfo[vle

[TheIrishPope]

You're in for a treat. Read his recent posts.

[TheIrishPope]

FINALLY OIL WELCOME BACK
Shoot someone

[TheIrishPope]

Mollie... chill.

[TheIrishPope]

Lol I'm sorry TIP you're annoying me so much I'm going to just not read your posts anymore.

Wat

[TheIrishPope]

Oil, you finally caught on!

[TheIrishPope]

Oh shiiiit

[TheIrishPope]

Oh that's right, I did play with Nacho
That was an awesome game
My games and shit can be seen in my wiki if it's necessary
Please shoot Wisdom now. I don't think you have to make us suffer

[TheIrishPope]

Doing scummy things means I am scum?
Meta me.

[TheIrishPope]

I don't need no meta to know he is scummy scum scum.

[TheIrishPope]

Ohai NS
What you thinking

[TheIrishPope]

Oh so it is a scumslot
Nailed it

[TheIrishPope]

No jailkeeper here, silly scum

[TheIrishPope]

Uhm...
Bert is Town.

[TheIrishPope]

Hi
I have nothing to add

[TheIrishPope]

Nooooo AA isn't scum
And she's V/LA so it's even worse FUUUUU

[TheIrishPope]

It's ok, we're gonna miss you though
And we're gonna be in the dark for like a whole week until AA9 gets back

[TheIrishPope]

Nacho or Syry why why why did you choose Angel

[TheIrishPope]

Then maybe she is scum kewl

[TheIrishPope]

Oil knows what he's talking about

[TheIrishPope]

Yes you are, silly Michael

[TheIrishPope]

Baby don't hurt me

[TheIrishPope]

Then why the fuck isn't she baaack

[TheIrishPope]

Silly Angel
She's scum

[TheIrishPope]

NO FUCKING WAY OIL
I SURRENDER MY SOUL TO YOU
Nice job!