Open 529 -- Picking Simplicity -- Game Over

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**when I try to put her as totally town.

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Hey, I've read the threat Maenara.

What are your thoughts on DJ?

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Maenara: Why does the last part make you think town? Conflicting with town doesn't make someone town.

If he claims SK, we need to kill him. Period. We don't have the bodies for leash or lynch debate.

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Assume JMO SK and 2 mafia left. Nine players alive.

Assuming we leash JMO, then he has 2/8ths or one in four shot of shooting scum if shooting at random.

If he shoots town and we mislynch and the mafia don't shoot JMO or the SK(worst case scenario), then we are left with 2 mafia, SK and 3 town. That's not an ideal position at all and leaves us in a position where we cannot lynch JMO or we are endgamed. We just don't have the bodies to leash him. I cannot get behind that plan.

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I'm not one to suppose what the scum and the SK will do. That worst case scenario I presented is beneficial to both town and the SK. The scums, provided that JK is telling the truth, can NK him whenever they want. If JMO is lying scum, we've stopped him from killing because we lynched him. If JMO is town, we gain a hell of a lot of information and the pieces start to fit together.

I'm not risking getting into another game like Dr. Who's Last Great Time War.

We lynch the scummy anti-town player, First. Period.

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HELL NO! I NEVER EVER EVER SAY AVOID THINKING. That's one hell of a misrepresentation.

Stating the worst case scenario, lynching the SK to avoid it is VERY FUCKING PRO TOWN.

You just seem hellbent on not lynching JMO. You basically backed off from wanting his claim once it was clear I was going to want him lynched, regardless of what he claimed given the nature of this setup. We cannot afford to leash the SK. Period.

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Again with the musreps. Discussing the sk isn't sk hunting exclusively. I don't think jmo is the sk but rather he is mafia with you dj.

JS, if you agree with me, you should be voting jmo. Don is likely mafia but I think jmo is more likely to flip non town than dj.

Plus, lynching don means we aren't even leashing jmo.

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Maenara, you are calling me off but essentially agreeing with my entire post but for dj scum. What he?

I could also speedwagon JS at this point.

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What evidence? I don't ignore anything.

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UNVOTE: whoever I'm voting pending a catch up of some sort

I'll be reading things over, likely back to front, but if anyone wants me to look at/address/answer anything in particular, let me know.

Pay attention to JMO, Jacob Savage, Antihero and Don_Jonson. I am relatively confident scums are in there. Scums mean mafia and sk.

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DJ, what evidence is that? I am asking you to put forth that evidence.

You meanwhile seem to ignore the fact that I was crumbing doctor to try and save the real doctor. Failed on my face but you have given no good reason for that.

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No good reason for ignoring that.

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AA9 is being idiot town and lynchbait. JMO should be the lynch.

AH's call out of me is wierd. As town, I would expect him to call my lack of follow through, or what he perceived it as, "scummy" not "rude". At the same point, he does nothing to push any of his reads and is a make content posts which is scummy.

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If you don't have to intent to lynch the player, your threats are meaningless. Let's lynch scum. Force them to shoot AA9 if they know we won't herpadurk lynch her.

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@Wake, you are one of the biggest posters. You don't get to make a huge mess and then claim it is messy.

@All, Rach has almost been a universal lurker due to various RL issues she has had. Lurking for her is a null tell. Not a town tell. Not a scum tell. Just a fact of life. I'd check her if

I

was the cop just to get that out of the way. I don't think Rach is scum just due to the

am

ount of scuminess present in

the

thread, but it would be good to just clear that.

@

Doc

, do not be stupid. Heal the cop.

Look at all the funny bold and italics.

It spells. I am the Doc.

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titus: where are your breadcrumbs? please produce them. if you'd been paying attention you would have already seen the evidence I produced. I caught a breadcrumb on day. skull acknowledged that I caught it and her demeanor towards me changed significantly in light of it. you act like you have been paying attention, but you're missing one very glaring sequence of events which shows rather definitively that I cannot be mafia. do you even have a case on me? again, please produce your breadcrumbs.

You don't get to burden shift. If you think there's something that clears you prove it.

I have been yelling that you are scum based on your voting pattern, defenses and OMGUS for awhile.

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ZOMG, you thought someone was town because they crumbed. Guess you're town now DJ. No.

After seeing a doc possibly out, that is the time TO crumb. It attempts to draw the NK away from the doctor.

Part of me thinks JMO may be just a dumb townfuck so I'm considering moving. However, I do think DJ + JMO could be the final scum team.

AH has done bloody fucking nothing, same as JMO and it's day 5.

Aptil is town as fuck so yeah, tempting to sheep but I'd like to see more thought there.


^^^ This is a fenseshit and I know it.

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I know I am tall but I am not that tall.

You seem to be trying which is different than 512 but you have no content.

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Prod dodge. Can't really respond to a wall given I just got my eyes dilated today. Keep it simple.

Manera, Aptil is obvtown to me. A) She was a counterwagon to known scum. B) She's been asking intelligent questions and looks like she's trying a hell of a lot more than Anti-Hero or JMO. I cannot see why anyone has a scumread on her. I'd rather lynch you over Aptil.

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Here are a few posts selected that make me hink Aptil town separate from the counterwagon.

Right now I like Aptil, Maenara (scum wouldbt break up a t v t fight, so Maenara is only scum if DJ is) as town. Null lean scum o DJ but he shouldn't be the lynch today. I am fine with JMO, JS or AH falling to their doom.

You voted for me but I will change it before the deadline probably.

This statement is so strange . I am now thinking one of them(HGH and TCold) has to be scum.

Il be reading up sometime. Possibly tonight.

Wake is town.

Why?

Hmm. I still prefer going after HGH, but considering his activity levels as well as the content he provides we could wait months to get something, if we focus on him too much...

I still want you to answer my questions HGH.

I can see the logic and validity of the case on Aptil. He also hasn't contributed anything since then.

Unvote

VOTE: Aptil

Haven't read everything thoroughly let, but I agree that Aptil seems like he isn't doing much.

VOTE: Aptil

These 2 are as opportunistic as the other.

Pick your poison

VOTE: TCOld

TCold was the first

First come first serve

Why did people not pursue this further ? That looks so odd you join a wagon with as much reason as the next person .Then vote one of them for being on the wagon and saying the reason to vote was on first come first serve . Bad play overall .
VOTE: Maenara-based on the previous person's play, this slot is scummy imo.

Why are are people not voting antihero yet?

Because 1) We need to do something about JMO, and 2) You're advocating it.

Oh, and 3) Half the players just aren't doing anything at all

So you do not agree about my analysis. Why?

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I know I don't like DJ, but I really don't l his vote. He should have a memorable case on dj. It seems like JS is avoiding the major wagons.

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Change your list to JMO AH mafia, JS for SK, and I could go for that. I still see DJ as possible scum though.

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PA I like your wall. It reminded me some of the non mafia things AH did and that I had townread him when he was active. I also townread Wake once.

PA iis autotown like me (from my PoV). Antihero I townread with Wake who was town. Aptil should be town based on wagons. That leaves jmo, aa9, js, maenara and dj. Aa9 needs to do something. Same with js. Maenara isn't likely scum unless dj is or is buddying him hard.

I get why 587 sticks out but look at overall context. Once I figured out why BP was pushed as scum, I pushed very hard to get him lynched.

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Don Johnson, hell no. I was a big reason BP was lynched.

JMO, what was the point in quoting 410? You say everyone was so scummy but you forget that RBD had me as town. You also don't show the relevance of RBD's read.

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Vla today turkey day

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That's a hammer. DJ, your total lack of confidence and just hammering now without a claim when you wanted one earlier is troubling.

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That was exactly my thinking but DJ and Manera were talking about this leashing the serial killer and DJ said he really wanted one. I don't get the reasoning behind it but I expect a player to be consistent with their own reasoning.

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Titus sits down to her nightly vodka glass. She feels as if someone had just kicked her chair in the back. She felt some pain but the liquor blurred most of the pain. Her eyes begin to fade out as she starts the process of dying. Sometime later, a figure broke into her house. It was dark. The figure was wearing all black. She starts to get up to say hello and realizes she's bleeding... and there's a bullet. "Shit" she mumbles under her breath. "Hey you, you must be Skull's replacement! Grab me the bandages I keep in the closet!" Titus starts fumbling in that direction but the SK stabs her. She falls to the floor knocking over the vodka onto his shoes. "Damn you serial killer. Bah!"

The lights fade out for Titus, she fights the scum no more.

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Damn it. My best games and I still lose. Maenara couldn't keep me until lylo. DJ couldn't keep me, so they killed me over conftown.

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Just looked at the thread...scum thought I was the sk .

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Well after I died, you were not going to be lynched. If only one faction killed me, they could play like you were the other.