Open 554 - omg, like, jungle republic!! + game over~~

[Wolfy]

VOTE: jon_h61
just because

[Wolfy]

I don't think we have to worry about Katrina at all this game, but I do think Wolfy is planing something.

it's a wooden stake to hammer through a werewolf's heart

VOTE: Ninja Trigger

[Wolfy]

sorry - was lurking until we got out of RVS.
Are we out of RVS yet?
VOTE: Not_Mafia
he so clearly is!

[Wolfy]

wolfy can be defscum now

I thought I was werewolf a few posts back?

[Wolfy]

It still all looks very random to me - apart from S and Em insisting he's got so many reads already from RVS.
He is trying way too hard to convince us he's town bloc.

Wait til you're at L-1.

here, let me help.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: S and Em

[Wolfy]

It still all looks very random to me - apart from S and Em insisting he's got so many reads already from RVS.
He is trying way too hard to convince us he's town bloc.

Wait til you're at L-1.

here, let me help.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: S and Em

I don't think you're trying hard enough to play this game.

Fair enough comment.
This be my first outside newbie queue and I have to admit to being a bit overwhelmed with the number of players and the seeming randomness of the posting.
(not the posting volume or content - both low)

Fortunately for you, we've got bigger fish to fry.

This concerns me... the "you" and the "bigger fish" specifically.

There are only

bigger fish

than

me

if:
1. You are town, think I am mafia, and have some knowledge of who the werewolves (rather than general scum) may be
2. You are scum (mafia or werewolf) and you are after the seer
3. You any alignment and you want to take out the persuasive others who may be dangerous to you

I don't think there is enough information for anybody to have reached the conclusion in 1. yet so that brings it down to 2. or 3.

Fortunately for you...

Why would it be fortunate for

me

whatever team I am? My win condition doesn't require

me

staying alive...

[Wolfy]

It still all looks very random to me - apart from S and Em insisting he's got so many reads already from RVS.
He is trying way too hard to convince us he's town bloc.

Wait til you're at L-1.

here, let me help.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: S and Em

Do you disagree with his reads? Why is getting a ton of reads from RVS necessarily scum faking it?

I neither agree nor disagree with his

reads

- I personally don't believe that they have any validity as

reads

...

S and Em let's do this townbloc thingy

Allllrighttt

Hmmm. Well, I'd say you, me, NotMaf, and NT, maybe SV on pure contrariness. I'd say Jiffy but he hasn't actually posted anything...

He includes himself.
"Maybe SV on pure contrariness"
"I'd say Jiffy but he hasn't actually posted anything..."

Why would anybody believe those are genuine reads? It's random stirring of the pot.
I have nothing against random stirring of the pot - but let's not pretend they are genuine reads and all sheep him

People emphatically

not

in the townbloc: jon, Kat, and Finglove. But then, that opinion was probably obvious.

No information as to why?
No information apart from "that opinion was probably obvious"
Why would anybody believe those are genuine reads?

md, Wolfy, and JKM have minimal posts each from like 2 days ago. whyyyyyyyyyyyy

I was lurking - I admitted it. Had no idea how to get into a 3 team game. Didn't recognise when/if we came out of RVS.

Though: for md, 14 is strange given that he could make the opposite joke with wolfy but didn't. Hiding something? Or am I being ridiculously paranoid?
for JKM, he's got one post, looks like it could come from town but who knows that early on in the game?
Wolfy has not provided anything even slightly content-y, except that he could perhaps be more concerned with hunting Wolves than Mafia? TOO PARANOIA

"TOO PARANOIA" - actually that's the first sensible thing I've read...
It was a joke on a misspelling. But for some reason I had a mental block and thought you killed werewolves with stakes

I now know you kill werewolves with votes

[Wolfy]

We could be waiting a long time for more information...
...but i agree - it's far too early to be lynching somebody just cos Majiffy has "some thoughts on each of the votes flip-dependent"
I'm sure we'll all have lots of thoughts...

[Wolfy]

Like others I see no evidence for Finglove.
Will be interesting to see if anybody hops off now but I suspect nothing’s going to turn that wagon around now so we’re in limbo until the flip

[Wolfy]

I'm still not seeing anything that says Finglove but I see it's going to happen.
Only issue I see is whether it's scum that drops the hammer or town sheep.
The likely town flip will move us forward but I am not prepared to hammer as I don't read scum.

[Wolfy]

As I said, I'm not that concerned about Wolfy.

Maybe you should be... I smell scum.

I wish I could vote just for S as Em seems much nicer.

VOTE: S and Em

[Wolfy]

NT is giving off newbie town vibes to me.
Too many people (including me) not posting enough.

Seems to be a choice now of follow Majiffy or not and it's "not" for me at the moment as I think NT is town.

[Wolfy]

VOTE: ninja trigger

#293 was a bridge too far for newbtown

I hate to agree, but yes - 293 didn't come across as newbietown.
will ISO again with more focus.

If I'm counting right that's L-2.

[Wolfy]

You gotta remember that my vote did lead to a mafia death, and

I did have a good read on finglove

so I acted on it with my vote.

Sorry for my empty reasoning or lack of an explanation I was super busy

those few days and could really only make dodge pod posts. He also just happened to have the larger wagon at the time, and the game was moving at a snails pace, so most of the other people only jumped on to see some action. I say we keep looking and see what happens

And the good read was? I din't see and still haven't seen any explanation of the finglove vote.
if you're not super busy at the moment maybe you could give us the reasoning/explanation now?

Who do you think is scum NT and why?
24 hours ago I had you down for town - now I'm leaning scum.
What can you tell me to push me back to a town read.

[Wolfy]

Wow

wow

that post has almost made me change my mind just by itself

wolfy whyyyy

Why what? Why did I question NT when I had previously said I thought he was newbietown?
Answered in the two posts - 293 was the trigger, it didn't look newbietown. I went back and looked and 233 prompted questions.

Wolfy might be NT's buddy?

only if he's town...

I you guys are reading this as scum alignment then your reading skills are not as good as you'd like to think they are.

I'd rather have answers as to why the unexplained vote on finglove even though he knows he hasn't explained...
VOTE: ninja trigger

[Wolfy]

No. Why did you ask him for elaboration when he already elaborated and why did you suddenly and blatantly start sheeping with everyone else and why does much of that post also look like coaching?

No, he didn't elaborate - in 233 he said:

Sorry for my empty reasoning or lack of an explanation I was super busy those few days and could really only make dodge pod posts

I am asking him to elaborate now - unless he is still super busy of course.

Can you explain "much of that post looks like coaching" please? I know what the word coaching means but i'm not clear what the accusation is here.
Thanks

[Wolfy]

He elaborated in that same post, and I am accusing you of being partners with him.

I'm clearly being dumb here then because you're going to have to explain how this...(the whole of the post)

You gotta remember that my vote did lead to a mafia death, and I did have a good read on finglove so I acted on it with my vote. Sorry for my empty reasoning or lack of an explanation I was super busy those few days and could really only make dodge pod posts. He also just happened to have the larger wagon at the time, and the game was moving at a snails pace, so most of the other people only jumped on to see some action. I say we keep looking and see what happens

provides any explanation whatsoever.
He "did have a good read" - but where does he explain where that read came from? He just makes excuses and uses "larger wagon" and "snails pace". Nothing there explains his "good read" of Finglove as scum.

[Wolfy]

I think if he is it's with Wolfy.

According to you we're scum partners - so you should be equally comfortable voting me or him.
He's at L-1 - so drop the hammer - then you can push forward the case to lynch me tomorrow.
Why split the vote? If we're both scum join the bigger wagon.

[Wolfy]

Wolfy:

Wolfy's said a few things I agree with. But apart from the mess that was post 107 it is something in post 109 that I keep returning to when I read Wolfy. He says he didn’t know how to get into a three team game. But if you’re town the number of teams is really quite meaningless. There are always only two teams. The righteous and the evil.

Wolfy: Could you tell us what it was about the three team format that gave you so much trouble?

just took me a while to get my head around whether it was 7 vs 5, 9 vs 3 or 10 vs 2.
Posts i was seeing seemed pro-town but could equally be anti other scum team - I also thought scum referred to just mafia at the beginning.
Not sure I'm much the wiser now but it seems to me that in a 3 team game more players will seem pro-town than in a 2 team game.
In a 2 team game I can sometimes say yeah this guy is town - in this game that's harder if he's hunting the other scum team.
So I disagree with your statement that if you're town the number of teams is meaningless. At the very least it causes me confusion.

[Wolfy]

I'm all caught up now and can't see any reason not to lynch NT

...I'm going to vote Wolfy as he's my top suspicion.

You can't see any reason not to lynch NT yet you vote me... so you clearly do have a reason not to vote NT.
I'm looking forward to the detailed explanation on why you want NT lynched but you're voting me.

First impressions give me Kat, NM and Majiffy as town, NT, Wolfy, TS, S & M, and possibly Justin as scum. I'll go into more detail in future posts.

looking forward to the detail...
Are you thinking Tier and Justin are on different scum teams given the current conflict between them and Justin's vote on Tier?
Where does S&M fit in - is he aligned with Tier or Justin?

I'd really like to hear more from mnemonic...

good point. Me too. Active lurking and getting away with it.

[Wolfy]

Why are there no painkillers in the jungle?

because the parrots ate 'em all

[Wolfy]

VOTE: Wolfy

Ding ding, now serving scumbutt 3

Why?

Town
{Not Mafia, Jon, Kat}

Scum
{Wolty, Shattered, mnemonic}

Still working with these.

Why?

[Wolfy]

Are you a commonly forgetful person or do you just have no reading comprehension?

Literally everything you have quoted has been explained in D2.

Apart from 291 "You're NT's buddy, aren't you?" you haven't even mentioned me never mind explained...

[Wolfy]

I think it's pretty self-explanatory. Particularly since I'm not the only one who mentioned it.

Vote: Wolfy

I mean it's all sort of right there, right down to the vote. Not sure how I didn't see it earlier, except maybe wanting to hang Tiershift so much. Still do, kind of. But since I can't...

Vote: Wolfy

Hmm. All I see is 3 votes and zero reasons.
1. "self-explanatory"
2. nothing
3. "all sort of right there"

Town doesn't do this.
Scum does this so that when I flip town they don't have to dig themselves back out.

@S and Em
I thought you would hop on too - you thought I was buddies with NT.

[Wolfy]

VOTE: Justin Playfair
I like to get my vote down. looking scum to me. Pushing on town Tier, refusing to vote scum NT and now pushing on town me.
He asked lots of questions but isn't playing to the answers.

Jiffy is probably town who is massively over confident (and many people will sheep confidence even when there is no substance - especially Lia who is probably town)

mnem is probably scum. Can't sort the others yet.

[Wolfy]

Probably was 303 and 304 in combination.
Made me realise that 302 was weak without the vote.
305 also said

I you guys are reading this as scum alignment then your reading skills are not as good as you'd like to think they are.

I stand by that too.
I hopped on the NT wagon to lynch scum. I didn't distance myself from the vote then carry on the next day as if nothing had happened when he flipped scum like you did.

If Jiffy has his way, what will you say when I flip town? Maybe you could suggest I played so badly that I looked scummy? But then what's scummy or bad about lynching scum? Come back to this 471 after the flip.

[Wolfy]

You gotta remember that my vote did lead to a mafia death

But then what's scummy or bad about lynching scum?

That's why I said "Come back to this 471

after

the flip."
I know it means nothing now.

[Wolfy]

UNVOTE:
Yeah - probably not. Just didn't want to go straight to my primary suspect without a vote hopping opportunity

VOTE: majiffy
Only way he can still be alive is if he is the werewolf.
Lead the D1 lynch.
Pushed Tier hard to get the D2 wagon going before jumping on.

OMG! Vote hopping! Sure scum tell.

[Wolfy]

^Flail. So you think he lead a bus on his partner when you were a perfectly viable lynch?

Ha! Baa! So you think I'd bus my partner but he wouldn't bus his...
If you think it's a flail get your vote down.

[Wolfy]

just sheep majiffy - you know you all want to

[Wolfy]

Last night I literally dreamed he flipped Wolf and I was super excited.

I have been known to provide excitement to people in their sleep but me flipping wolf just ain't going to happen - that's a fantasy.

And then I woke up to this crippling indecision and distaste for voting anyone Jiffy's voting.

I think I've made people wake up with distaste as well.

So tell me Jiffy, when Wolfy flips Wolf will we get another Maf the next day? Or will you want to keep your last partner?

should read ... when Wolfy flips Town will I(S&M) get night killed?

(MafJiffy was also in the dream.)

That's not a dream it's a nightmare

Lol I can't tell if you're willfully stubborn or just an idiot.

For the moment he is being stubborn

[Wolfy]

Kk someone claim intent or don't and hammer doesn't really matter either way.

Hmm, better claim then if jiffy is calling for a hammer without intent...

VT

I refer you back to 471, 478 and in addition now the very anti-town call for a hammer without stating intent.

[Wolfy]

I am VT.

Go town.
Don't let jiffy dig himself out of this hole.

[Wolfy]

Not_Mafia hammering without stating intent is also baaaaad (see what I did there )

[Wolfy]

You had already claimed

but maybe after seeing my claim one of the townies might have wanted to unvote - you didn't give them the chance
but you know this

[Wolfy]

I actually won't believe you until mod does the flip, but to humour you, it's obvious you think Jiffy is the wolf, who do you think is mafia?

mafia in {mnemonic, katarina, not-mafia}
wolf in {majiffy}

[Wolfy]

No one was hopping off your wagon after a VT claim

mafia in {

not-mafia

, mnemonic, katarina, }
wolf in {majiffy}

[Wolfy]

I actually won't believe you until mod does the flip, but to humour you, it's obvious you think Jiffy is the wolf, who do you think is mafia?

I'm lynched - what would be the point in lying? Do people actually do that on this site?