Open 582: Stackin' the Deck/Hipster Mafia (Over)

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been looking forward to this :' )

but where' the fun if dino's confirmed town
who else am i supposed to harass
VOTE: howl

youre the only one i havent played before

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at least dino's the kind who wont go quiet

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i propose a day 1 mathdino policy lynch
who seconds

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you guys <
fair warning it'll take me a few days
to not associate everyone with their 574 slots

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yea i agre-- wait a second
art thou tryin to rustle my role

art thou sure thou'rt town

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chiming in before appointment
dont like wgeutrs wagon
riddleton hasnt sold me he's town

really really disliked howl's wgeurts wagon hopping
did rvs come through for me?

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destroying the wgeurts case now

VOTE: ABR
I know thy ways.

Is this a random vote? Not sure if thou hath evolved but I recall a lot of talk of thou disliking RVS.

'tis RVS.
Also wherefore's howl being destroyed for a RV?

This is fine, except how he gets defensive when MathDino questions him not liking RVS. His defensive "But 'tis RVS" responce is trying to posture his vote as valid as if it was handed down from above.

dino: "a or b?"
wgeurts: "a"
riddleton: "look at that posturing! "

The point hither is his vote was

perfectly acceptable

but the excessive justification of a silky RVS vote is very scummy behaviour.

excessive justification?
am i in the wrong game?
did i hang left at some parallel universe where wgeurts explained his vote in more three words?

b) His continues to defend the Howl wagon by analysing everyone's prayers on it in the Post 57 wall.

???????
LLL???????
?????????????????

wgeurts defends a wagon by saying someone on the wagon is scum
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BB's vote is "acceptable RVS" but null, somehow -- which maketh 0 sense.

so, what, wgeurts needs to be scum or townreading bob for a rvs vote?

...

im sorry you're scum this game riddleton

I dost not think 'tis a coincidence how the later thou art to the Howl wagon, the more scummy wgeurts perceives thou to be.

conspiracy theory

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VOTE: riddleton

thou guys canst redeem thy poor sheeping on riddleton
by sheeping me well against riddleton

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y

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@droog: So wgeurts is town. Wherefore is Riddleton scum?

his case had more distortions than the 5th dimension

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Saying "tis RVS" in a semi-casual way like that after thy meta of disliking RVS hast been called out is scummy behaviour.

why

please give me ans anwer that isnt
'wgeurts used to dislike rvs, therefore he must continue disliking rvs'

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[quote="In post 139, Riddleton"]RVS prayers dost not need be justified usually. The fact that Wgeurts tries to do this -- by explaining "O! yea 'tis RVS! Cool, isn't it?" and by defending someone's elses RVS vote as valid also -- is

unexpected defensive behaviour.[

/quote]

unexpected?????

dude was directly asked if his vote was rvs or not

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Yea. He said BB's vote is "null" despite being acceptable RVS (ie, acceptable, good, town =/= "null").

so, what, wgeurts needs to start scumreading unacceptable rvs prayers?
do we need to all start townreading acceptable rvs prayers?
if someone maketh a RANDOM vote that maketh them more town?

He then called people scummier and scummier the later they were on the wagon, which isn't a coincidence to me.

wherefore

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Well there are peeps that are against the wgeurts wagon, but they are spread out, which does nothing for us because it's just a bunch of people not working together to get any pressure anywhere.

Hi I'm droog

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Saying "tis RVS" in a semi-casual way like that after thy meta of disliking RVS hast been called out is scummy behaviour.

why

please give me ans anwer that isnt
'wgeurts used to dislike rvs, therefore he must continue disliking rvs'

I've no reason to doubt what the IC is saying.

Oh
So your case on wgeurys is actually Dino's?
This is very interesting
Please explain

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Right. It's totally overdefensive for me to bring up a recent town game of mine to show you why what I did wasn't scummy, but it's completely fine for you to bring up one old game with another player to defend them.

Yes.

I didn't go digging around for links to do it. The effort makes all the difference.

I think people are finally starting to realise that wgeurts is a PL at best and not even that good a PL. More people should try coming to that realisation.

Alchemist could do with pressure, btw, if we really want a counter-wagon.

So what do you want to do
With the other 7 days
After your alchemist counter wagon

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So what do you want to do
With the other 7 days
After your alchemist counter wagon

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking here, but I guess the answer is "lynch Alchemist"?

You're talking about one
And only
One counter wagon
Like we're short on time

We're not.

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Confused town

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Texcat's being a lot more talkative and helpful than 0574. I don't think her scumplay would evolve so quickly hence why I'm pretty confident she's town.

Mostly agreed

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Wgeurys I've defended you pretty hard now
What do you make of Riddleton
Scum with a bad case on you
Or town with a bad case on you

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So you're voting wgeurys
because he's the only options?

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go natter our IC
who says our wagons are boring
without pushing any

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im pretty damn cheeky

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funnily enough that was said last time too

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will probably trawl throught this for content later
would like to hear more out of midget

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prod dodging

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i dont want a no lynch
and i dont want to lynch alchemist or wgeurts

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why is gerts scummy?
i asked some questions about riddleton's case
no one satisfactorily answerede

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Texcat
Ofc gerts will say abr's a better vote

Voting literally anyone else
When you're town
Is a better option

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Why ABR is a better vote than me

The case on me is absolute conspiracy crap.
His first 3 posts are only fluff.
He's wagon hopped onto howl and me with naked votes.
He did this as traitor in the other stack the deck.
His reasons for voting me is "He's annoying" and he's refrained from actually explaining these "bad posts".
All the other posts are fluff. Seriously ignore slimer, he's got like 1 or 2 fluff posts ABR's ISO consists of nearly only fluff posts

none of this was about why abr was scummy to gerts
r-right?

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Vote: wgeurts

I think that wgeurts has more than coinflip chance to be scum. I may be biased. I'm not over his over defensiveness and super confidence. There hasn’t been enough significant bandwagons or game swings to assess everyone in the game. It’s not a completely objective vote, but I’ll support it over Alchemist or Riddleton.

texcat, are you ready to call this out
this purely utilitarian vote
made to lynch someone else whos not a leading wagon
without calling it scum?

Why ABR is a better vote than me

The case on me is absolute conspiracy crap.
His first 3 posts are only fluff.
He's wagon hopped onto howl and me with naked votes.
He did this as traitor in the other stack the deck.
His reasons for voting me is "He's annoying" and he's refrained from actually explaining these "bad posts".
All the other posts are fluff. Seriously ignore slimer, he's got like 1 or 2 fluff posts ABR's ISO consists of nearly only fluff posts

none of this was about why abr was scummy to gerts
r-right?

Perhaps, but he never actually says that, which is what I found odd. Wguerts hasn't had trouble calling people scum in the past, why does he now?

do you think scum gerts
would not call other pople scum?

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Okay, so right now I don't care who is scum.
Just tell me who is the reason for the last twelve pages so that I can help ruin their week.

me

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lemme look 2birds over but im willing to lynch this
its well past time for a lynch weve done everything we can
spent too much time on today really

ive been a lurksack but i'll take a look again before voting

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that is, is therea hope of getting aclaiw

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Okay, I think there's enough time and activity for me to care who is scum.

yeah?

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The following is probably going to read as very shallow because it is and i am

Wgeurys I've defended you pretty hard now
What do you make of Riddleton
Scum with a bad case on you
Or town with a bad case on you

He's town. (Phonepost)

Why?

Alch is pretty much a non-entity for me readwise which isn't that bad considering I have

too many townreads

The case on geurts is still shitty but fallacy fallacy and stuff

Waffling on ABR

possible scumread?

Shutting up riddle would be nice

scumread?

I think I liked 2birds

random's recent posting is good

Every time I want to vote texcat

scumread?

i like at his iso and i see a thing that makes me not vote him and then i immediately forget about it (happened just now)

personally im reading No Lynch as town but i can see why you more words

i dont think ive played scum bob before
but this is how i imagine itd look

he says hes got too many town reads
but isnt he problem more
taht hes not committing to scumread?

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Anyone who wants to dig up a game to meta-clear themself over a single vote five pages into a game is far too defensive to be town.

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So what do you want to do
With the other 7 days
After your alchemist counter wagon

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking here, but I guess the answer is "lynch Alchemist"?

yeah im not sure hes scum
but i dont like his attitude

VOTE: 2birds

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Birds
Claim

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Birds is right
Alchemist has no hard reads

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No
Claim now while we have time

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Do not give me this
Xkcd style I Know Better Than You indifference

You do not have a good reason for lot claiming
At l-1 with deadline here
You will be lynched
Unless.

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If you don't claim
Flubbernuhhetb will start booing again
Do yin really want that

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Birds
What will happen instead
What do you propose instead

A no lynch?
Some other lynch?

Without an alternative you will be hammered

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1 hour left
ffs somebody hammer

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Me too
Thanks anyways Dino : )

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They killed me for being handsome > :
Good luck!
Thanks anatole

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Heh right on riddle for once
Good game! Lots of fun
Thanks anatole

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Also thanks wis

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Nice job IC

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best setup

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both our runs of this game ended pretty badly for scum
((the first run would have had 2 scum lynches by day 3))

i wonder if we just got lucky in reading each other
or if there's something town-sided about this setup
all those town prs are probably a big concern to scum
and counterclaiming them doent end well

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dino, wed all like to think
if we were scum wed win with this group

but we didnt know each other at all the first time
and town still had 2/3 scum by day 2

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both our runs of this game ended pretty badly for scum
((the first run would have had 2 scum lynches by day 3))

i wonder if we just got lucky in reading each other
or if there's something town-sided about this setup
all those town prs are probably a big concern to scum
and counterclaiming them doent end well

I think scum makes a mistake in getting any roles. With only 2 PRs for town vs 3 scum, I think scum has the advantage. But I think the power roles for town are more powerful than the ones for scum.

i agree

adding the traitor means more associations
more goon cop targets
and another pr to fight

daytalk is only good if you're running great gambits

joat only thwarts town prs, and choosing it makes them more likely

role cop is nice but situational
bulletproof is very very situational
and shooting the bulletproof almost guarantees he's scum anyways

whereas town gets
tracker (pretty useful)
goon cop (most of the time useless but powerful when useful)
roleblocker (situational but useful)
vigilante (huge threat to scum, minor threat to town)
IC (only a plus for town)
bodyguard (mostly a plus for town)