Open 588 Pick Your Poison -- Game Over

[NJAC]

Hi!

Vote: RachMarie

ICs are always scum. Sheep me now please. GGWP.

[NJAC]

Hi!

Vote: RachMarie

ICs are always scum. Sheep me now please. GGWP.

[NJAC]

Prod dodge...

[NJAC]

Ok.

I like Drezi, Riabi, maybe House and pisskop for town. Undecided about Cyanide but I like how he has generated content and discussion, I think he's leaning town too. And deathfisaro can go to my town pile too.

The scummy people are Victor, Dooku and croboss.

acryon is null (maybe in the townie side of null) and the rest are null as welll.

Despite Dooku voting croboss, I like my vote being put on that wagon:

Vote: croboss

@croboss: it's not that hard to properly catch up, so please post more content and thoughts as soon as you can.


Now, what happened to the "NEVER LIE AS TOWN" almost general consensus? You just don't lie as town (only with few exceptions), so if you're VT at L-1, you don't fakeclaim IC. Period.

To make it clear for everyone: if you're town just don't fakeclaim. Thank you.

Also, @Victor, in my first post when I said "IC" during my RVS vote, it was actually a bad joke because I remember RachMarie as IC (Inexperience Challenged) in newbie games, so I was saying that she being the IC had to be scum (just a random comment to justify a RVS vote). I see now the confusion. So IC will mean Innocent Child in my posts from now on.


@All: I have more opinions and thoughts about what has happened in the game. Some of them are just a bit outdated or don't deserve further discussion because were already argued enough. Anyway if you have any question or something specific you want me to give my opinion about, please let me know.

[NJAC]

Ok @croboss: Let's say you're not scum, who's scum then? And who do you think is town?

Also, what discussion were you expecting to generate with your vote on SC? Why exactly did you unvote him? Was the discussion you wanted already generated?

[NJAC]

I'm curious about what people think of Lalendra's play. Specifically Dooku, House and NJAC. I know she states that it's common for her posts to contain a lot of WIFOM, but, am I the only one who sees this as scummy?

She's null leaning scum. Sure. However she's also a newbie, so it can explains why the constant circular reasoning in her posts.

Why do you ask specifically to Dooku, House and me?

[NJAC]

Ok @croboss: Let's say you're not scum, who's scum then? And who do you think is town?

Also, what discussion were you expecting to generate with your vote on SC? Why exactly did you unvote him? Was the discussion you wanted already generated?

I don't know, I find myself fairly bad at determining reads.

I was expecting to create enough disccusion so I could create another post, which could then lead me to make a few more.. I unvoted because I have nothing agaisnt him. The discussion I wanted was already generated because of my earlier post where I conclude my theory.

The reason I jumped on the biggest wagon is because it is likely to produce the most discussion if you near someone that one step closer to a lynch then just randomly doing it on someone with no votes.

If you insist that you're bad at this game, bad at determining reads, etc, then why don't you just ask to be replaced so we can have someone in your place who's not as bad as you and can help us to find scum?

Now look, maybe you're new to this site, but you really need to try, it doesn't matter if you think you're bad at it or not. So, I'll ask you again: who's scum and who is town according to what you have read until now? Base it on your gut if you will but give us something to work with, please.

Also, if the discussion you wanted was already generated, what do you get from that? what the generated discussion tells you?

[NJAC]

@Riabi: Why did you ask about Lalendra, specifically to House, Dooku and me. What's your follow up after our answers?

[NJAC]

@Those voting croboss:
Explain to me how he is not just lynchbait?

I don't know, maybe you should vote him to find out. What do you say?

I still like my vote where he is, and croboss has some questions to answer.

[NJAC]

This makes me feel icky. Why next time you meet? Why couldn’t you be of opposite alignments this game? It’s almost like you know who your teammates are or something…

This is a nice catch, you know? Maybe even a scumslip. It's worth pursuing. When we finish with croboss, let's vote fisaro. Alright?

[NJAC]

Reading now, sorry for the absence.

[NJAC]

I like acryon for town. Drezi is solid town read. I agree with him and pisskop's recent post about Dooku: Yes, 354 was kinda odd, and it was worth inquiring him about it, as acryon did, but voting him, spending several pages on this issue, and bandwagoning him seems off to me. I think Dooku didn't handle this in a smart way, maybe he overreacted and he could have simply skipped the constant references to this issue, as he had already explained himself. But I see it more as bad play than an alignment indicative thing.

In other news: I was serious about fisaro (I understand why what I said may seem disingenuous but it wasn't) so, while we wait for croboss to be replaced, can we vote him?

Unvote
Vote: deathfisaro

[NJAC]

@House: do you think fisaro scumslipped or not?

[NJAC]

@House: while I kinda understand your read on Dooku, I don't quite follow your "case" on pisskop. Could you please elaborate more about your case on him?

[NJAC]

So many replacements . I need to take a closer look to the last pages, but it will have to wait until tomorrow.

@Reminiscence: deathfisaro is gone. However your vote on that slot if fine.

[NJAC]

EBWOP: However your vote on that slot IS fine.

[NJAC]

V/LA until Monday night

[NJAC]

I like acryon for town.

Can you elaborate?

Oh well, I think he is town, he's been active enough, asking questions, interacting, you know? that kind of things. I also share with him some of his POV. I even liked the way he inquired Dooku with all the Rach thing.

If you want me to answer to something specific please let me know.

Also, do you think acryon is town or scum, and why?

And one more question: why aren't you voting scumHana/scumfisaro?

[NJAC]

Dooku/Remin's wagon is the wrong wagon. If I have to pick some scummy names from that wagon I'd say Victor, Metal and maybe Riabi.

Anyway Hana/fisaro is scum for sure.

@pisskop: stop playing silly and get your vote back to Hana.

Drezi, acryon and House are town. Lalendra is also town.

[NJAC]

Also: I don't like House's case on pisskop. In fact pisskop is also leaning town for me. House vs pisskop is just town vs town.

[NJAC]

Reading and posting tonight folks...

[NJAC]

Vote: Ika

Must be punished...

L-2


@AM: Your case on me is just bad. If you want me to answer something please ask.

@pisskop: Why are you okay with Hana atm?

[NJAC]

Must be punished...

This seems more like you're pushing for a PL rather than because you think ika's scum.

It is a PL, but I'm also entertaining the idea of him being scum.

I want him to come and explain.

What are your reads? What do you think of Ika?

[NJAC]

@AM: Your case on me is just bad. If you want me to answer something please ask.

What's bad about it? I dissected it earlier, but i would like to know YOUR opinion on it. Despite a lot of stuff being lame, he's a new player and has a couple of actual good points.

What makes you think he's a new player?

I want to know if he's interested in determining my alignment. If he's interested in determining it I expect some questions from him addressed to me. I don't think he's got a single good point. He needs to fully catch up and update his reads.

[NJAC]

I want to wait for him to finish catching up. If you want me to give my opinion on something specific of what he said let me know.

I'm still waiting for your reads, btw.

[NJAC]

@Hana: Why is Ika town?

[NJAC]

So much derp. Why did Nacho question the wagon without letting ika explain himself first?

There's at least one scum voting me right now. I was reading acryon as town, so, despite I don't like ABR derp-voting me, I'll say he's town. Sakura is also town. That leaves Nacho and AM as potential scum. If I also keep in mind that they replaced into Rach and Victor slots, respectively, I can almost assure that at least one of them is scum.

I want to hear ika first, before moving on.


@All:

Trivia: Who's scum between Nacho and AM, and why?

[NJAC]

I questioned the wagon before letting Ika explain himself because the wagon formed quick as hell and it was a shitty wagon. In doing so, I didn't take any onus or spotlight off Ika: I just put more pressure on players whose votes were absolute trash.

Well, you already gave him some arguments to use in his favor, so maybe you didn't take the onus off him but you clearly took some pressure off him. And no, my vote wasn't absolute trash as you call it, my vote is on him for a reason, regardless of you agreeing with it or not.

I do insist that his behavior must be punished, if you look at his latest post you'll note how anti-town he is that he doesn't even care to explain himself. So, take it like a policy lynch if you will, but I'm seriously considering lynching him.

[NJAC]

Still tho, i don't like how NJAC called AM's case bad but refused to refute it's points because "he's still catching up" AM never finished and NJAC never came to refute them.
Inb4 both are scum.

As I said I don't think it's worth commenting on his "case" on me. As I also said I'd prefer waiting for him to finish catching up and see whether his read on me changes or not. But, while he comes back, and as I said to you, if you want me to give my opinion onto something specific of what he said, then ask me and I'll gladly do it.

[NJAC]

Also, @everyone, this was a serious question and I was expecting you to answer it:

@All:

Trivia: Who's scum between Nacho and AM, and why?

Let me reword it:

If you had to choose one between Nacho and Always Mafia, who would you lynch and why?

Please answer it. Thanks in advance.

[NJAC]

Ok. I won't comment anything else about this issue until ika comes and explains himself.

I insist it's worth pressuring ika atm, and you don't have to agree Nacho, there are enough votes on him for now. Whether it ends in a lynch or not is another discussion.

@ika: Please answer what pisskop asked you. Thanks in advance.

[NJAC]

1-shot Cop here.

Sakura is town.

:Sigh:

[NJAC]

Derp town is derp town. We're lost. Sorry.

[NJAC]

GGWP

Thanks for modding NS.