Open 595: Elemental Mafia (Town Wins!)

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Sooo someone commented on conman's vote typo but there's no mention of the fact that he never attempted to revote.

VOTE: conman

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@senator without discussing theory too much this site takes voting as a very strong protrayal of one's intentions. The fact that conman didn't even ask the mod if his vote counted suggests his vote was not being used to scumhunt

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Also I don't like him explaining himself so much

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Awesome so you're rvs'ing to fuck around and not to scumhunt by your own admission

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Con I'm not bothered by the formatting of your vote. Only your response to it. It's tough to stir up a game with a half assed commitment to a vote

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@senator without discussing theory too much this site takes voting as a very strong protrayal of one's intentions. The fact that conman didn't even ask the mod if his vote counted suggests his vote was not being used to scumhunt

What vote on page 1 do you think was being used to scumhunt?

Fuck if I know. I just know con's wasn't being used

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I'm still mainly in RVS at the moment, but I changed my vote because he said:

Hello, my homies. This player asks which one of you is mafia?

you and I are scum partners, thought we already established in the quicktopic

I realise he's probably joking but I don't have anything else to go on at this stage so saying he has a scumpartner is a good enough reason to vote him as any. Also it would be totally ironic if he was telling the truth.

there are a few ways I think I could paraphrase this but I'll just ask something instead
what is the purpose of prefacing a post that contains reasoning for a vote with "I'm still mainly in RVS"
by definition, backing up your vote with reasoning puts you solidly out of RVS
so this post is either forced or disingenuous

would be willing to sheep this

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Because I agree with you?

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Fuck if I know. I just know con's wasn't being used

I...jesus christ. Have you even thought about this at all?

Here's the votes. I challenge you to argue any one of them is intended to scumhunt.

Spoiler:

First..
VOTE: choof

Woohoo! Haven't played in forever! Pretty pumped up!
VOTE: senator government yeccht

vote: farside

for not being Gary Larson

VOTE: conmanmick

Can't vote properly - scummy

VOTE: fa_q2 meta says he has to be scum.

Hi(drogen) guys.

VOTE: farside22

Hi...

VOTE: vettrock

-being first
-being yoda

VOTE: conmanmick

because I can't tell if that's an elephant in your avatar or a dinosaur

Vote: nemonic

Saying myself from your bad play.

So either you're scumreading over half the players in the game, or your argument is a joke.

I just said I don't have a case for or against those being scumhunting votes. I can argue though that con's was not indicitive of a desire to scumhunt.

Last post I'm making on the subject

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flubber is now a scum read. I don't recall him trying hard to find a purpose to keep is vote on a player (yes meta)
Still think bela is scum. non reaction and newb = scum in my book

Also, sorry Papi. Was phone posting

@Flub, any other thoughts?

Senator's questions remind me of the one's I asked in my first newbies so he can be town for now

Other than that nope

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OK, you want a read? I think, flubber, you're being a tad over pedantic about me not correcting a formatting error. That's a feeble line of investigation, feels like your whole line is an OMGUS vote. My vote will stay put for now.

Gimme one more scum read and ill move my vote over to plot

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flubber is now a scum read. I don't recall him trying hard to find a purpose to keep is vote on a player (yes meta)
Still think bela is scum. non reaction and newb = scum in my book

can you explain how bella's iso is fake but con's isn't?

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I just said I don't have a case for or against those being scumhunting votes.

here, let me help: the votes that were quoted were all rvs votes
having said that

I can argue though that con's was not indicitive of a desire to scumhunt.

I'm quite certain that none of the votes made on page were not "indicative of a desire to scumhunt"

Last post I'm making on the subject

and why is that?

So here we go again random votes shouldn't actually be random etc etc. Every fucking game I swear. That's why I want to drop the subject. It's semantics, theory, and nothing useful.

Look at con's iso. There's half a read in it and nothing of substance that would incite a reaction. But this is okay because I'm wrong about his vote? Like I've brought up twice in one way or another that there's more to my scumread than the vote but that doesn't seem to matter because idk

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Is there a reason you have such an interest in me

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@farside you're saying conman's being wordy where he doesn't need to. Why doesn't that read as "fake?"

Where do you see con's fluffposting to be less fluffy than bella's?

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Oh right, Flubber. Can you point me to where Con is looking fake?

Yeah I'm just going to swap brains with farside and magically understand what the fuck she's saying for you

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Because she always complains that shit's fake and I have no idea what that means so I'm trying to put it in terms that people actually use so I can work on making sense of her posts which isn't the easiest thing to do

But being a douche makes you right so idk

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No I'm correlating fluff posting with fake

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I'm not sure what's going on with Lane. His posts seem needlessly distraught.

Flubber, you still haven't answered my questions. Why was it scummy for Conmannick to not try to correct his botched vote; and why is it worse than actively avoiding RVS like others did?

@senator without discussing theory too much this site takes voting as a very strong protrayal of one's intentions. The fact that conman didn't even ask the mod if his vote counted suggests his vote was not being used to scumhunt

Avoiding rvs is usually a personal schdule/opinion thing.

I've stated before that I am more concerned with con's defensive iso as a whole than his vote. Why is his vote still relevant?

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I'd be a lot more comfortable with lane if he had a vote in play

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@conman who's scum

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What exactly would have made the wagon town motivated to you?

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More comfortable with lane now

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I I'm paranoid about Flubber being active because I don't recall him as an active player so he's more just on my to be watched list.

No that's not how meta works at fucking all

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I I'm paranoid about Flubber being active because I don't recall him as an active player so he's more just on my to be watched list.

No that's not how meta works at fucking all

Did i call you scum for it?
no
Did I say town for it?
No

just someone I would keep an eye on.

IE: uncertain

So what exactly was [p]101[/p]?

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101

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What exactly would have made the wagon town motivated to you?

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I asked what YOUR town motivation was.

There's 4 scum and I have 2.5 independent scum reads so sheeping someone else's scum case makes sense. Also congrats on confusing agreeing with another player for being opportunistic.

Now it sounds like you're making stuff up as to what would make the wagon scummy so an answer to my question would still be nice.

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Bbt's vote was not alignment indicative. Especially since he did not l-1 or hammer

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Tbh, I suggest a policy lynch of a lurker d1. Town that doesn't contribute should be gotten rid of and if they happen to be maf it's a bonus.

You do realize that if we did this your slot would be dead before you could replace into it?

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I feel like if we all assumed bellaphant was a bert alt we wouldn't be scum reading her.

Meh.

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I also want it explicitly noted that farside is a scum read of mine

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Bert alt? Can you explain a bit more for those not in the know?

Check his posting style. You can also look up Antihero: Redemption. I think it's theme mini 1619

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He's scum-reading con for rvs nonsense

ok you're scum

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Also no longer willing to sheep a Plot wagon in the event it forms

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353 - Can you expand on this read Flubber. I can see it but want to know why you're scum reading her.

Her scumread on me is bullshit and she can't keep coherent as is. I can see farside looking for an easy mislynch out of me

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353 - Can you expand on this read Flubber. I can see it but want to know why you're scum reading her.

Her scumread on me is bullshit and she can't keep coherent as is. I can see farside looking for an easy mislynch out of me

That's why I'm pushing a lynch and cLalling you scum right now.

Wait no I'm not doing that at all.

Okay but that's not refuting your read is bullshit but keep trying to be condescending to discredit me

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There's not enough people here ive fucked up around for you to laugh me off as a vi this game

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Not refuting shit

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This game is in serious need of a vig

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VOTE: papi

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Lynch con tomorrow? <3

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I agree with bbt that papi is today's lynch and that nothing interesting has happened since he became the lynch decided on

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I don't even understand why we are waiting for claims in this setup. Also cc'ing a doc right now is impossible/dumb unless I'm missing something

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I don't even understand why we are waiting for claims in this setup. Also cc'ing a doc right now is impossible/dumb unless I'm missing something

I am missing something: there's more than just the docs in this setup

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I don't even understand why we are waiting for claims in this setup. Also cc'ing a doc right now is impossible/dumb unless I'm missing something

I'd have been more inclined to believe him if he claimed vanilla.

Why do people seem shocked that a scummy player made a scummy claim anyway

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Seriously? Its all one liners, misremembered games, and how youll read tonight. How could you, an experienced player, possibly argue that number of posts equals amount of content? They dont equal at all. Can you start ptoducing something now?

Senator there's so much bullshit in this post I can smell it over the internet

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^^this an actual one liner.

Can you show me all the posts from the reverend that are of this nature?

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@senator Well you have a "contradiction" on the reverend which is just a cross between his personal opinions and the optimal way of working with the town, so congrats on scumreading him for not being an asshole?

Even if you don't see a solid town case on him, is your scum case so insanely strong on him that he's not worth the benefit of the doubt to see what he brings to the table tomorrow? From a replacement standpoint, your push on him is encouraging suboptimal play from his perspective as is.

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actually someone should hammer just to shut these two up

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my posting won't feel like buddying if you don't deliver tomorrow

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my posting won't feel like buddying if you don't deliver tomorrow

How do you know I haven't delivered today?

672 by your own admission

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673 rather

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Could that vote be any more useless

Hammer your scumbuddy like a man

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@con the only way you can accuse me of baiting you into a lynch is if you know papi is town.

VOTE: conman

This flashwagon needs to happen

If con flips scum I'm willing to say he just slipped and cleared papi.

/discuss

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I haven't read anything in the past 4/5 pages and I don't give a fuck.

Discuss.

Just read 713 and 716

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would it be worthwhile hanging onto papi and having him investigated?

By who? The tracker? That would be really convenient for the scum if they knew who was getting tracked.

He barely even gave you a peepee smack and it somehow managed to obliterate your ego...

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That was directed at the senator

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Why can't flub be baiting him because con thinks flub is scum and papi is town? My brain apparently isn't working right. I mean why can't that be why con thinks flub is baiting him?

This would make sense if con had a history of speaking definatively or in absolutes

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Why can't flub be baiting him because con thinks flub is scum and papi is town? My brain apparently isn't working right. I mean why can't that be why con thinks flub is baiting him?

This would make sense if con had a history of speaking definatively or in absolutes

FAQ What exactly didn't I answer?

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Why can't flub be baiting him because con thinks flub is scum and papi is town? My brain apparently isn't working right. I mean why can't that be why con thinks flub is baiting him?

This would make sense if con had a history of speaking definatively or in absolutes

FAQ What exactly didn't I answer?

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The more senator talks the more I'm willing to lynch him

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Shhhhhhhhhh

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VOTE: papi

not happy but this day needs to end

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