Open 601: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

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VOTE: big bad bull

hes big, hes bad, and hes a fucking bull

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gyus im town and yes the tree is judging all of you

espcially him^

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Also I had all these setup ideas when I signed up but then I forgot that this was that setup because the game took so long to start. Aight so

1. Massclaim role but not night. Idea is that even though scum know the distribution of roles, no matter what the distribution will be 4-6, 5-5, or 6-4. And due to the Pigeonhole Principle (OMG ACTUALLY GETTING TO USE MATH IN MAFIA) if everyone claims, we either have 7 or more cops or 7 or more docs, and the larger group MUST have scum. If scum are shit at claiming then we might have 8 cops/docs.

Thoughts everyone?

not averse to this idea

I'll give you a clue first though: my role has a 'c' in it! (oh no I think I just gave it away oops)

2. Cops claim the day before they can investigate.

Which would mean N1 cops would claim today.

Draws the doc protection when necessary, leaves less claim room for scum later on.

alright doesn't seem like too bad an idea

3. Roles claim after they've been used. Obvious reasons, allows docs to protect better targets.

mate you have all the good ideas

very much liking you

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You raise a good point about the night claims but we could always semi solve it by having docs do the old flip a coin to save the claimed cop or save someone of your choice.

I definitely think d1 is the best time to mass claim, and ideally first 8 pages so scum is definitely not organised.

After thinking about how long it'd take to organise this I'vr changed mind on not claiming yet.

I be cop.

pass popcorn to someone who isn't here yet

that would be fun

another clue about my role bc I'm the nice half: my role has an 'o' in it! (ahh you'll definitely get it now)

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What I am a bit uncomfortable about with kyndy is the way she makes herself appear non-confrontational. ie ':P' in first post and 'jk' in the second.

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not a scumtell in my experience
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I agree that cop/doc claim needs to happen at some stage. But I'm not sure when it would be best. The advantage of doing it today is probably that scum would be unlikely to have spent much time planning what they are going to claim yet.

I definitely disagree with people claiming the day before they are supposed to activate. I think that would make it easier for scum to predict who may or may not be protected. (The last time I played Diffusion, the scum team lost partially because they were paranoid of doc protects and thus made some less-optimal night kill decisions.)

3. Roles claim after they've been used. Obvious reasons, allows docs to protect better targets.

Only for cop results I think. Doctors shouldn't claim unless they protected somebody on a night where there was no successful kill.

otherwise this all looks pretty good

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To be honest, I have a gut on you have any ideas, because in his first post he said "hi, i am town."
Although that is probably just ika being ika.

FYI, 14 was not made by ika

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You could also clairfy your gut if its town or scum...

Im already getting board of the game but it could be hydra

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cop

metalcynide is next

i also suggest that mario is to be the hammer voter only so he can out who hes investigating n1 in the event we have more then one n1 cop

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For now MarioManiac who are you leaning towards for an investigation?

why would you ask this

i have my own thoughts to it but i will wait.

so right now we are 5-5 on claims and with my predictions we are going to have 6-6 with an extra

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ok lala and i care syncing up right now but this actualy works in our favor atm cus we are also a n1 cop

i have an idea of how to progress form this but first order of business is that wgert protect first and reub protect us

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Hmmmm... right. So Reubus or YhAI,, maybe. FOUR n1 claims? Just seems... unlikely.

but not impossible.

i mean if one of the n1 doc claimers is scum they shot themselfs cus now they cant kill either of us w/o outing as scum.

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There's an 8% chance actually, anyway Reubus you target yhai.

lol

anyway i have an idea on how we should do cop checking for our n1 but im going to wait for the finsih of the massclaim

setup dictates its 4-6 of each so we will have one extra somewhere

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one of the n1 claims is scum. its not just unlikely it really fucking unlikely. like at least 1/25 unlikely. im too drunk to math atm but im p sure 8% is being too generous. there is a 1/5 chance of being n1 with 10 townies.

frankly i dont doubt it but at the very same time lynching in the pool of that today IMO is not the right play.

mod can we get a prod on the person who has not posted yet?

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one of the n1 claims is scum. its not just unlikely it really fucking unlikely. like at least 1/25 unlikely. im too drunk to math atm but im p sure 8% is being too generous. there is a 1/5 chance of being n1 with 10 townies.

frankly i dont doubt it but at the very same time lynching in the pool of that today IMO is not the right play.

How is not lynching withing the pool of N1 claims a good play. As it currently stands, unless we have town counter claiming town (which would be really dumb), we have a 25% chance of getting scum.

cus what if we really do have the one game where we are all n1 cops/docs? if that is the case scums can get a feild day and walk all over it

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In their first post, laladucks had to SPECIFICALLY state that they were town, and they conveniently claimed N1 cop as soon as a second doctor claimed.

dont you think it would of been easier as scum to just not claim a night at all and silently shoot?

im not going to stop you from copping us but i was thinking more of the line of diving player list in half and one cops top and one cops bottom

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So the

plan for the night

is the following:

Wgeurts protects MarioManiac4
Reubeus Swagrid protects You have any ideas
Mario cops YHAI
YHAI cops Mario

Reubeus, lala and ika, do you agree with the plan?

the copping no.

i rather cop my acutal scum reads and not someone who i already think is town but if thats the univeral consense i will not object to it

that also being said cynicde is town. can we lynch SC now? thats the one im most confident in

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the copping no.

i rather cop my acutal scum reads and not someone who i already think is town but if thats the univeral consense i will not object to it

that also being said cynicde is town. can we lynch SC now? thats the one im most confident in

So will you cop Mario?

Could you please sign your posts? Will you stick to your usual hammer habit or has lala any wo in this?

if you help my lynch SC who i think is scum yes. otherwise i will prob not.

and no i will not sign post if lala wants to sign them herself she can but if you need to know whos signing you can ask.

as for my hammer habits, this i a hydra im entirely diffrent in hydra vs single. ill get with lala later and talk with her

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again i find the "lets cop each other" to eb stupid play atm.

ill think it over and talk with lala about the dicussion/throy about it

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Why do you want to lynch SC?

cus i think they are scum

call it guts, call it a shit case, call it whatever you like but right now they have not done anything that convinces me that they are town.

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like do you have a town case on them? cus i would like to hear it

and if you are going to say "they are null at best" then you have every reason to vote them as well

pedit: no its called bing a useles sack of shit that can be done as either alignemnt

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They are null at worst too. I see no reason to vote someone unless they ping SCUM to you. How may players in this game have you got townvibes from, 6 pages in?

UNVOTE:

YHAD, I would likely be voting for you if I weren't copping you tonight.

pedit: Lurking would be a decent case, but this is Page 6, so... yeah.

kyndy101
Fromage
insanity018
wgeurts
you have any ideas (hydra of lalaladucks and ika)
Metalcyanide
MarioManiac4
Reubus Swagrid
Mathdino

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pistachi0n
Soviet Crocolisk (hydra of Falschion, Faustbyte and Gendaberry)
Soft-spoken
Marcrell

anything below the line atm is my line of lynchability

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quackquack
Mario kinda jumped the gun with his claim. We were surprised that there was another (supposed) cop on N1 and so held off on claiming the night initially because we wouldn't have doc protection.
Regarding Fromage's idea, at first I hated it because checking scumreads seems much more exciting! But now that I've mulled it over for a few minutes, it's actually pretty clever and very practical.
Has Marcrell still not claimed? He needs to get in here ASAP.

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Also hi lalaladucks

Hey bud

Who do you think is scumsies?

Also protect us toNight please <3

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well this jsut got intresting.

NM is prob town based on entrance.

can we get back to lycnhign SC?

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Yhai: Why is NM town?

Already stated, entrance.

As scum wouldt it be easier to claim doc instead of cop?

also whats the scum motivation for claimign to also be a n1?

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(quack)
Yay NM came along to throw a spanner in the works! Are you scum again dude like what are you even doing ._.

Will be reading through and stuff now, just skimmed things before

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I'd be more comfortable with the ika hydra being unprotected

Rude

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We're still looking through everyone else not mentioned.

Still happening?

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we are not changing tactics

i am not going to play the WIFOM game with everyone on te docs/cop shit

we had 2 docs and 2 cops and NM decided to make it more wifom shit. that his own doings. we follow the basic plan of us/mario cop each other and NM goes on his own. iirc we have 8 cops claims and 6 can only exist.

so if they kill NM, we cop each other and get confimred thats 3 out of the 8 now confirmed and the pool of cops gets much more narrow

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im still tired but im just posting this cus i dunno if this is being followed or not anyomre and i dont have enough engey to porcess anything or any ideas so whatever:

wgerts protect mario
other doc portect us
mario/us cop each ohter
we lynch one of the cop claimers
then:
if the cop claimed flips cop: NM checks another cop claimer
if the cop flips scum: NM checks anyone outside of me/mario

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daily reminder to lynch SC

from shut the fuck up unless you deicde to presen tyour case all i see form you is BS

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SUSPICIOUS WGEURTS
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daily reminder to lynch SC

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SCUM!

VOTE: PISTACHI0N

Spoiler: EVIDENCE FOR GUILT

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VOTE: fromage

i love how wgers doesnt notice his vote is l-1

that being said titus you doc me
wgerts doc other

if either cop dies the doc who is suppose ot be protecitng gets tubo-lynched

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i will check jazzy and other could check NM and we can end the shitfest alltogether

have fun

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ROFL IS THIS FOR REAL MARIO GOT A GUILTY ON NOT_MAF???

WELL WHOOP DEE DOO BECAUSE WE GOT A GUILTY ON SNAZZY JAZZY!!!

GG GUYS THESE INVESTIGATIONS ARE ON POINT (IF MARIO IS LEGIT)

SO YEAH

JAZZY = CONFIRMED MAFIA

YHAI (WE) COP INVESTIGATED HER LAST NIGHT

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any cops who have results should out now then we can go ahead and lynch jazz

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any cops who have results should out now then we can go ahead and lynch jazz

Ithink Jazz is scum and will still vote him but why didn't you check me?

your predacstor was town.
jazzy and his slot was a higher scum read and if he was to be town i would have to revaulate
if i cop you and you got shot it would waste our investigation

VOTE: Jazzmyn
We got this game in the bag :3
Titus, why should YHAI have checked you?

its cus of me

persival you should claim who you checked

ill withold voting only so we can have a self ahmmer but i think instead of turbo we should have at least 24 more hrs to talm i need to recheck the cop-doc ratio atm