Open 604 - Fire and Ice - Fire mafia wins!

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VOTE: Fire
I go with the flow. The flow is always right

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Ika just wants to hammer.
3:

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I have a townread. Myself.

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Oh wait not ika.

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....How would she know?

Omg scum
VOTE: Con

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Ok fire you want my vote right?
VOTE: Fire
I am thinking of trolling this through guyz

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Pay attention to me or I'll fall into lurking.

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Boring as hell
Klick is town tho

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VOTE: swordmaster
I like it

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My play is godlike I don't see how it will improve. But eh if you want a serious vote:
VOTE: Conman

In respond to Mist : The game is boring 'cus nothing has caught my attention so far. Klick is town 'cus agression and those early reads.
Ika is ika. So like yeah it's how he plays.

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Serious votes usually come with an explanation.

Vote: Gameplay

Ok

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VOTE: Ika

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VOTE: Cow
Choo choo
Please be a wagon

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Klick lets wagon Cow.
Ika is giving like 0 reactions. I don't wanna parkvote there waiting for something to happen while it's not.

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Klick, game-play's answer is pretty similar to mine.

Ika's day 1 meta is terrible, I'd prefer to sort him day 2. The game needs a little bit of progress, so.

Exactly.

Also Ika fu put yourself below the line 10x plox

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Is this a choo choo on gameplay?

Srry I just wanna sheep this game or at least this day. Still no strong reads or whatever so yea.

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Look now. I give content. Or should I say it I produce content. Content on day 1 and especially early on is produced through wagonning and voting. And that's what I am doing. If you think going around shouting "He is scum" and giving some silly reads will help out with catching scum, do it. But I prefer to see those reactions and judge for myself.. And right now the reactions I've gathered are shit so.

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My vote on Conman back then was based on something like " funny attitude and too much joking about votes" or wtv. I don't really remember, sorry.

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Wanna vote Klick so bad cus of their annoying playstyle

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Nah Klick is town probably
Annoying town but town
And firebringer might be town too

Pedit: Klick this sucks. Players like that suck, sorry. What a shitty move there

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I bet scum are laughing their asses off right now.

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Um I don't even read his posts. Too long for me.
Gonna read them tomorrow if that's ok

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Prododge

The guy on the previous page said it. This game has already bored me. Anyway still haven't done anything

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Ugh sorry just not really up for reading... any reading at all. I know, I know, I am a bad person.
For some unknown reason to me tho, I decided to iso Mist.
VOTE: Mist
And this guy just looks so fake its.. ew.
The comments in 57 are really nothing significant. Klick is taking RVS too serious, its odd. Conman is taking RVS too jokish, its odd. The firebringer comment is out of place - haven't you seen an RVS wagon before Mist? And what was with:

If there are no scum on the wagon and he is a townie, he could be mislynched. Just saying~

Pointing the obvious or something just to seem concerned?

Of course I don't think Firebringer would be lynched this early, I was looking for something to comment on about RVS. I just didn't want it to get out of hand if people kept the votes piling, but I think it's toning down?

Fake, fake, fake AF

While reading him I noticed how many questions he's asked but how little, by little I mean none, follow-up there has been to these questions. Do the answers of those questions even matter to you Mist?

If someone asks you to explain something, and you refuse, and hold off on an answer, that's not town like in the slightest, I can't see having any sort of motivation to doing that.

Good to know, I wouldn't mind a PL on that if he doesn't post anything soon.

Bitching about motivation, eh? Well I shall bitch a little too. Where's the town motivation in trying to PL someone?

(Note!

That's 5 votes on you already, two more and it's a lynch

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So if you want to answer that statement any time soon, now would be the time.

I'm sure some of your votes will fall off after that.

Why does this seems so fake and coachy ( from coaching just to make it clear ) too

Well if town I write down noteable posts, claims, my suspicions, replace times and promises. I also rate posts with my gut feels about them and then occasionally look back over them and rerate them in hindsight.

If scum I keep track of weak play or pushable statements, as well as readshifting. Then I rate each noteable post based on how I think I would as town and try to stick with those reads.

Thanks for explaining and making me read your slot as town!

Why why why is this so freaking fukin hell fake. Like really why? Is it just me ??

Oh goodie I wasn't as lazy as I thought

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So much fake posts there. I dare you iso it. And keep an eye on those questions and how much attention he has been paying to their answers. It almost seems as they are irrelevant to him.

Ops just saw its says you are a she, Mist.
Don't get offended please :3

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Woah I feel useful again. What a great feeling lol.

Also just something I forgot: If Mist gets lynched and he flips scum, there might be a possibility of him/Cow team as implied in 148. I mean voting someone and then being like " oh don't worry, it'll be alright, I bet someone will unvote ya if you explain Z"

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Do you think you actually did something with this? Like at all? I am not starting a wall war but:
~I don't think I missed ANY content with my iso. Sry

~How should people play RVS? Apparantly serious/not serious doesn't work for you.

~I am not painting you as anything, I am just pointing stuff in the things

you

've posted. And this stuff with pointing the obvious just seems like an excuse of a post.

~You are here since 2011. Thus your overly concern about a RVS wagon just doesn't seem natural to me. "I just didn't want it to get out of hand" Lel k, sure

~So overly defensive ew. I was talking about game related questions you've asked the players. And the fact you are not even remotely interested on whether they'll stay unanswered or not speaks for itself. Not to mention that even the answered ones are irrelevant to you. The whole thing seems like just a failed attempt to look useful.

~I disagree about PLs but I won't argue, k.

~Sassy fail sure.

~ Mmm more discredit, thank you. And where is your case on me exactly? Cus that ain't a case.

Overly defensive, Omgus'y and discrediting. My vote's staying here.

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First of all m8 you are the one who is discrediting. "Weak case", "not a proper case". Even if weak it is 200 times better than every exuse of a case you ever made.
Oh where is your case then? Not reading the thread? I obviously read you. And I don't see how I misinterpreted anything in your iso for you to say that I am missing crucial stuff by just iso'ing you. Not answering the questions? Why didn't you insist on me answering them? Not having enough time? Ye exuse after exuse.

Secondly you are going around in circles. You are explaining the same thing over and over again eventhough I obviously pointed the flaws there. I really don't mean to argue with you over the same things and waste my time. I'll let the other players decide.

And thirdly I think you actually might be town. Cus' this overlydefensive attitude seems somewhat like sore,stubborn townie giving shitty... Whatever . I'll keep an eye on you

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Just read Hayato. A lot of question asking ( fortunately he does take the answers into account ) and some of his reasoning isn't the best but eh he is slightly townish. Tho there is something there, something I can't quite put my finger on, so I would go see some of his previous games... Oh how much I hate meta :[

Radja - not a lot of content but actually seems townish. Would like him to post more, really.

Pisskop is nulltown. Need more content there too.

Tatsuya actually gives me quite a good feeling despite his few posts. Still I'd like more content here too :\

Eh conman isn't really great. And especially his last two posts, after he gets voted.

If you think I'm an obstacle to us winning, remove me.

Seems like overreacting, sorry. And its all for 2 votes.
Might place a vote here.

Annddd the rest some day else

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Ugh read Cow... This guy, I don't know what to think about him. At one point I wanted to brush him off as null, then I thought there is something seriously wrong with him and now idk. Might be just some newb scumness or whatever but I am not giving him a good read
Also I kinda skimmed over his other game and idk it just seems different ( he was town there). I mean I didn't really read into his posts but. Some of his explanations and theories here are really bizarre. Acting like you don't know what RVS is so that you could get shot? Ugh?? And the theory with the bolding and the long speculations... it confused me so hard I didn't even read it till the end. I still don't get why you speculated so much on this Cow. Mind explaining?

Prolapsed despite his few posts isn't that bad. Need more content there.

Ika lol

Bella is probably town.

Still need to read Klick and Fire but I think from what I've seen from them so far they are town. Thus my lynch list or whatever you call it is:
Mist, Cow, Conman,,, Hayato//Ika
Hayto being just a gut read but I think I am not ruling him out/ Conman idk about him needs content/ Cow is just bizarre/ Mist is ... I have given my reasons on mist / Ika is ika and unlike some other players who even with a low amount of posts managed to strike me even a little as town , ika strikes me with nothing, just plain nothing
Basically I just wanted to have at least 4 scumreads , cus 4 scum and yea

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Hayato I can agree on a Cow lynch 'cus right now he is actually as scummy as Mist to me
But first I need to meta you so that I can be more confident in youtown

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I didn't say you are town lol. I said you might be cus you attitude right now might come from either alignments. Yet that doesn't explain nor make me forget my other arguments.

What pisskop?

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I just wondered why you did all this speculation about kills and whatesoever.

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Firebringer why aren't you voting Mist then?
Also I see a counterwagon forming on Cow. I mean I am obviously on for a Cow lynch but still something about it being a counterwagon.

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Fukin shit Mist, WHAT IS YOUR CASE ON ME?
You are pushing me, like really? Where is the push exactly? Your overly-defensive posts or?
When did you start pushing me eh? After I got my case on you? Then fukin call it what it is - OMGUS. You can't come up with a falsescum read thus you are going with the person who is pursuing you the most.
Before that ( before I got my case on you)? That is not a push Mist. The first time you voted me maybe, some sort of something lol, but the second one time was a plain sheep. And you gave no arguments back then so I guess we will stick with the upper paragraph.

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Firebringer why aren't you voting Mist then?
Also I see a counterwagon forming on Cow. I mean I am obviously on for a Cow lynch but still something about it being a counterwagon.

Counterwagon? Who by?

"If I'm wrong lynch me" is not how we should be operating. That could potentially be two mislynches, or something like that.

Maybe counterwagon is not a good term cus the people on your wagon are in my townread ( bella, piss / if I remember correctly). But idk seemed odd.

Also Cow who do you think is scum. I want a list of scumreads and a vote pretty please.
Also just noticed you are sticking with your RVS vote? You afraid to vote or something? And your reads so so... unsolid lol. You always go like " this person is town/scum for me but eh it can change/ for now/ or just giving a feeling of uncertainty in your reads. Those two things just don't stand good with me

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I usually hate to give really solid scum reads early on but right now I am feeling both Cow and Mist are scum. Even on the same team lol, kinda...

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I agree, I don't know how comfortable I am with a Cow lynch. Even if the plan wasn't really all that thought out, I feel Cow put a lot of effort, just enough not to be Day 1's lynch.

Effort is not alignment indicative, sorry.
Do you suggest we lynch the person who has done the least?

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I'd rather we have a lynch, and I'm pushing Gameplay today. I don't like how Firebringer jumped on me and the fact that he jumped on Klick when Gameplay was arguing with him. I reeeeally don't like that at all. Firebringer, what's your case on me?

There is nothing to say about them.

That is the problem.

There is nothing to say about them.

That is the problem.

Good lets keep it that way, I am going anti town just because of you.

Just going to vote who I think is scum not answer questions and win this without helping the rest of you.

#TheAngerIsReal

Cool, you just made my blacklist. That was quick.

VOTE: Firebringer

Policy lynch pls?

Stupid reason to lynch someone bro. Its actually a scum reason to do so. VOTE: Klick Watch you say OMGUS.

Also blacklist is bad.

Wanna vote Klick so bad cus of their annoying playstyle

Just wanted to prove that the first quote is a freakin lie lol.

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I would actually like to know who you would vote. Like a specific person
Also I think it will be too much to ask from you but eh some arguments for those scumreads will be good.

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Its for Cow boy
But ok goes for you too

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My case is that you don't read the thread and have shown this by ignoring the questions asked of you and you are trying to make a weak case against me by going through my ISO try to paint me as scum to gain town cred.

This... is a case? Not reading the thread = scum. (Eventhough I obviously read most of the stuff recently). Shit argument
Iso'in to make a case = painting somebody as scum? Like really? Shit argument
You know if my case was weak yours is like ...

I voted you a week ago when you said you were tacking on a serious vote without any sort of explanation. I called you out on switching your vote multiple times without any reason whatsoever. You've been on my scum radar for a long time.[/b] I don't like how you continued to post "This game bores me, If I'm not interacted with, I'll start lurking." When you finally decided to make a weak case against me I knew you were scum. Stop acting like you've just blipped on my radar after your post. You've been playing anti-town from the very beginning. That's why it's not OMGUS.

You never got yourself to do shit about me until I released my case on you. I can even quote your posts that you have mentioned me in lol.

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VOTE: Prolapsed Brain

I've been wanting to vote this way for a while.

Wut?
What are your thoughts on Cow and Mist.

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Nah seen propapsed play. He is just naturally anti-town

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She is pretty much doing nothing and can't even give her arguments on me scum. Like really

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gameplay, well I can't find anything in his iso that is trying to progress gamestate, until he makes his wall on Mist.

Uh I actually made my case on Mist. And I am constantly developing it so.

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Oh wait read it wrong.

Well basically I didn't progress gamestate cus I wasn't really in the mood for playing. Then again is effort alignment indicative?


Pedit: Radja wtf you want me to die ?

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Pisskop why not join us on Mist?

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Frankly this and most of his posts are null for me. Not scummy but not really town.
I don't like him right now 'cus his recent posts aren't really anything significant and the lazy push ( is there even a push?) on Con is just nah.

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What's with all the open-ended townreads?

My reads were like this because those people back then had less than 10 posts and all of them were like 2 sentences max. I can't really base a solid read on this, can I?

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What's lazy about Pisskop's push on conman?

Are you even reading? He isn't pushing conman at all.

If you didn't have solid reads back then, why did you decide to make a readslist? Also, what changed between 284 and 287 that Hayato went from looking slightly town to your would-lynch-list? (btw, it's 3 hours in-between, so it's not like we're talking about a change of mind in mere minutes)

Wtf is this question. I never actually read the game and decided to read it. Once I was done with it I wanted to share my thoughts on those players. I mean was it going to be better to keep my thoughts for myself? And hayato was never actually in my town reads. I said he looks townish but that something there is odd and I had to meta ( which I havent done so lel).

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I posted my read on con.
I didn't vote miss for syntax. I provided my arguments.\
Now fukin shit stop dodging and tell me what is your opinion on Mist.

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Vote me then.

Push me like you push conman. Lazy ass hsit

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So now I am scum?

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Con wagon is bad 'cus there are 0 arguments there. And your attitude towards your main scumread is just
Like really tell me your opinion on Mist.

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I don't even see his reason for Con scum.
Something on meta I guess.

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meta case is explainable, so explain it.

Even if it isn't, there's no way you can get 7 votes on an unexplainable meta case, so what's the point?

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Her defence is like over the top, hayato. She is like super defensive, tries to discredit ( her defense is so weak that she relies on comments like "weak case") and OMGUS'ses hard. I don't really know if this is playstyle or not but it's really awful.
Like she was sure I was scum when I posted my case? WTF. She says I was on her scumradar before but she did absolutely nothing about me back then. Like shit nothing. And suddenly "your case is weak, you are scum". K, totally reasonable.

And I don't think I can agree on the question thing. She really does have 6-7 relevant question, some of which even went unaswered. Does she care? Nah.
She is just trying to look useful - all the concerned and obvious comments which have 0 influence on whatever and those questions she asks without really caring for the answer. Ffs she used something against me like " I asked you several questions and you didn't answer them". You see if she really cared and had any use of those, she would've insisted on me answering them.
Also hayato you seem to be pretty much in the middle. Get it straight - do you think me vs mist is TvT, SvT, SvS. Tell me.

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In any case there is certain amount of doubt in me whether she is just bad town.

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Whatever I gave out my point.
I don't see how I am scum in mist vs me. Show me what you've got

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I can agree on Cow I say again.

Just gotta read him again.

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Ugh Cow

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Don't back off now.
We need a lynch and Mist is a perfect candidate.
If she flips scum gr8 'cus she has had some really pointing interactions with some players here. Not gonna mention anyone right now. If not we'll take it from there. Again several people have been quite distanced from the wagon despite no real reason for it provided.
To me there is almost absolutely no one screaming town. Like I'd love to see the kills tonight. I think there is a chance of a dead scum too.

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Also my changing on Mist shouldn't be interpreted as anything Wanderer.
I said I have my doubts but yet I am not backing off. I still think she is scum. I still find this to be the best wagon today. Nothing more.

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Mist is without a counterwagon.
Mist is backed by at least 1 scumgroup
The distribuition of votes suggests that Mist is town.

Or Mist's bud just sucks?
But again we need a lynch.

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Here is your scum counterwagon Pisskop.
Anyway I still see 0 reasons on Con.
If you think Mist wagon was shit, Con wagon is shittier lol.

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And if Con really was scum would he really switch his vote like that? Mist wagon is his only chance to survive if scum and he is voting Bella at the last moment?
You serious? Not to mention fukin 0 arguments have been given on Con. Even piss who started the wagon did shit nothing to prove con was scum. Meta he said.

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Wanderer if mist could be lazy town why can't Con be lazy town too

Con used to be on my scumreads but seeing how this shit wagon just happened within hours is scary.

Pedit: SO WE ARE PL'ing today? WTF piss, wtf
And now you care whether I'd look bad?

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Fukin shit Mist has a whole case against her and we are lynching somebody for giving up and being lazy?
Like ok
why not

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Nah lets make this interesting. I'd like to see how this will go.

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You blind cow?
Like 2 posts above

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Wut
How more specific than that xD

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Well, you must be reasonably certain that Con is Town if you don't want him lynch, right? How certain are you that he is town and why?

I said con is not as good as Mist for a lynch. I said even why.

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How can I say it.
He isn't more town than Mist. Like they are both equally not town, but just Mist seems more likely to flip scum to me. Especially given recent events. But ye say it your way.

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Seems good enough.

But I still don't see Con flipping scum.

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Can we like compromise on a 3rd lynch?

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I know most of you would disagree but I really find something odd about Cow.
Like those reads. Ugh
Or hayato
Dunno I have them in my scumreads list.

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So Con does not have a reasonable chance of flipping Town is what you are saying. "He isn't more [likely to be] town" is what you are said. I do not see why you are opposed to this lynch, then.

And I am saying Mist is more likely to be scum
And I gave reasons on why I don't like the whole Con wagon
Like seriously I am going to slap you

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Could Hayato vs Cow be SvS?
Like really I don't feel like a Con lynch would help with anything at all. I don't freakin want a Con lynch.
I want to compromise at least.

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You are one shit dumb stubborn cow.
I don't have a insight or whatever.
I just said - Con is a bad lynch cus:
1. The reasons for himscum are bad or just absent
2. The wagon just developes out of nowhere. A deadline lynch wagon without much though put into it.
This is enough for me dislike this lynch. And the fact he is not even my main scumread lol.

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Ok great
VOTE: Cow

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Fu piskop

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What about cow scum?
I really wanna lynch cow problem is tomorrow I am going on a freakin 10 day break (awesum) and I really woudn't be able to participate much. And I have so many stuff to do today so like I am not gonna be able to do anything concerning mafia.

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Actyually not really aure bout cow.
Have to read some more sometime

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I already have gave my opinion on him. Not much has changed since that. Also his vote on Ccon is freakin scummy.

Wander it's always good to place a vote somewhere.

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Nah I havent.
Tho I wanna point out that his vote on Con is like the scummies of them all

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VOTE: Conman
I've given my reasons already. I'll redo my reads list later, I just got home and I want to take a nap.

Says he has given reasons yet doesn't vote until a wagon starts forming. Just seems really... opportunistic?.

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prod dodge
sorry not doing anything at all
And cow is scum, hayato fukin stop questioning me
If you think im scum vote me

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I am optimistic.
Cow will flip...
Ice .

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Slip xD

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my reads are so bad this game
I will read this shit some time again and find scum guys

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but anyway
VOTE: Ika
better to place a vote after all

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Ha told ya ika was scum

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So me, klick hayato
I think its hayato
tho who is the doc

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Actually I am pure shit thia game
so no "I told ya"
anyway I think I know who the doctor is but I want a claim

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No no hayato be a good boy
I wanna wait for the others to post first

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Anyway you think its Klick?

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So who do you think it is

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Your a freakin idiot
I am town you fuck

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Anyway lol
so hayato really is town
lol i am so bad xD
gonna read those two

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honestly fire is scummier than klick
tho I am not yet voting before doing some research

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Hayato it is not over
And I am not giving it to klickscum if one
Her scumgame was far from perfect so

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Lol really fukera
I am not even gonna try cus I am fukin town
Obv too
Dumb but obvious
sad thing is i dont know whether it is klick or fire lol

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Actually I wanna vote klick cus Fire's paranoia really seems genuine
And I dont really think firescum would go with the harder lynch so

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Actually you know fuk it
VOTE: Klick

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Ew

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Hayato dont be an idiot

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Hm I just wish I wasn't lynched while asleep :d

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Anywayy gg and wp everyone!