Open 608: Jungle Republic - A jungle is conquered(game over)


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Post Post #31 (isolation #0) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:53 am

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In post 18, Firebringer wrote:How about my awesome train, guys?

Random weird question, who you guys think would be most dangerous scum team here?

Did you read some of the earlier Jungle Republic games before asking this? :D

DV's probably town, I'm leaning scum on Mario and IS.

VOTE: IS
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Post Post #37 (isolation #1) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:42 pm

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I will explain my reads, but I'd like
Firebringer
to take a shot at it first. Firebringer, what do you think my reads are based on?
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Post Post #41 (isolation #2) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:29 pm

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I've played this setup quite a few times. There's an old RQS trap people used to use that only works in setups like this, with uneven scumteams. You ask a seemingly random question about who someone would like to be scum with, or something of that nature. This version was slightly different, but Mafia are likely to give answers based on three-person teams; Werewolves are likely to give answers based on two-person teams.

DV gave an answer only specifying me as a dangerous member of any scum alignment, implying he wasn't thinking in a team mindset. Mario and IS both answered with the assumption that Fire was talking about a three-person Mafia team.

This tell works surprisingly well. Research some of the older Jungle Republic games if you're interested.
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Post Post #42 (isolation #3) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:31 pm

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Oh, and I thought Firebringer might have read a game where the tell worked before or something. That's why I asked him to guess my reasoning.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #4) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:50 pm

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The fact that he said it three times is telling. He's thinking in threes!

It's not as condemning as IS's slip-up, though.
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Post Post #49 (isolation #5) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:46 pm

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gameplay, why Mario and not IS? Any particular reason?
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Post Post #93 (isolation #6) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:30 am

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We should keep voting IS because they're obviously scum!
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Post Post #107 (isolation #7) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:54 am

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So let's look at the quick rise and quicker fall of the IS wagon.

In post 28, mykonian wrote:
vote savant


gottem

First vote on the IS wagon, and his first vote of the game. Essentially a random vote for reading purposes.

In post 31, Klick wrote:
In post 18, Firebringer wrote:How about my awesome train, guys?

Random weird question, who you guys think would be most dangerous scum team here?

Did you read some of the earlier Jungle Republic games before asking this? :D

DV's probably town, I'm leaning scum on Mario and IS.

VOTE: IS

My vote. I explained it later.

In post 46, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: Idiot Savant

Maybe klick is town this game :P

Agreeing with my reasoning.

In post 53, DeasVail wrote:
In post 41, Klick wrote:DV gave an answer only specifying me as a dangerous member of any scum alignment, implying he wasn't thinking in a team mindset.

I'm still not sure about this. My post implied that my lack of saying any other names was due to my lack of experience with anyone else, and you're the only person who I have played a significant amount with (albeit a long time ago). My guess is that I probably would have said the same thing or something similar as scum, though this could be my own ignorance speaking I suppose. What do you think of my argument for it perhaps not being a towntell though? And was this something you considered?

In post 52, MarioManiac4 wrote:A scumteam of 3 Marios would be a LOT more dangerous than a scumteam of 2

What do you think of Klick's theory?

I'm not as sold on the tell of threes as Klick seems to be, but nonetheless

VOTE: Idiot Savant

Hesitant vote on IS for my reasoning.

In post 56, Wanderer-nl wrote:@Hayato: What kind of insightful questions do you expect on page 2? My question was a first attempt to get things moving. I happened to already be voting for you, but it's not something I would have voted you over if I wasn't. Like Savant just described having issues with sarcasm/jokes, I have that too. So yeah, when I see something I'm not sure about, I ask. That helps me prevent silly thougtprocesses and eventually tunnelling on a false assumption. I hope you're being aggressive town and not dodgy scum.

I don't know how I feel about how Savant liked my question. I was hoping it would get a little more attention so I could get reads from the reactions, but the reactions to Firebringer's random question attracted more responses so now it's become useless.

I don't know how Klick plays as town, but I read up on this set-up before the game started so I knew where his reads came from and to me they're nothing to worry about. I also felt felt pretty town so I agree with his early townread on DV.

@Savant: It's not a silly reason if it works.
VOTE: Savant

Again, based on my reasoning. Side-note, this post is a town post.

In post 59, gameplay506 wrote:I actually read it
Ok stop it wanderer :/
So lets try this shall we?
VOTE: IS
L-1

He's not totally convinced by my reasoning, but is voting for the sake of putting IS at L-1. Leaning town on this.

After this, myko says he'd be fine with Mario hammering IS (if I'm reading Post #67 correctly).

In post 68, Wanderer-nl wrote:UNVOTE:

@Mario: What's your exact read of
Rainbow
IS and why specifically?

This is presumably in response to gameplay's L-1 and Mario's intent to hammer.

In post 81, mykonian wrote:
In post 75, MarioManiac4 wrote:
In post 69, mykonian wrote:mario is scum btw.

also suspect wanderer.

GG catching me, but please actually consider who i am before trying to read me, or you will regret it.
And the ONLY reason I wanted to hammer with a 6/5 ratio was because it was ika!hydra, and that's literally it. It would have felt so fucking good to do that hammer vote if they weren't the seer.


yes, considering who you are and this and post 66, you are probably scum.


GODDAMNIT FIREBRINGER

vote firebringer


and I trusted you :( HOW COULD YOU.

I don't like this hop off of IS, especially since he was cool with a hammer before this.

In post 84, gameplay506 wrote:Fu
Also fire really is scum
VOTE: Fire

This vote makes sense, considering gameplay didn't really seem to have a scumread on IS in the first place, the wagon was dying, and his real scumread was Firebringer.

DV also changes votes, but the wagon is essentially dead by this point.

In conclusion, IS is still scum, I could see myko being scum too, and DV/Wanderer/gameplay are town.

myko, I'm not a fan of your reasoning for suspecting Fire of being scum. If anything, I see him blatantly targeting one scumteam over another as a towntell, because scum would also have to pretend to be finding their own team.
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Post Post #120 (isolation #8) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:46 pm

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In post 116, shaddowez wrote:
In post 107, Klick wrote:I could see myko being scum too, and DV/Wanderer/gameplay are town.

Klick
- Can you please provide some reasons for your reads? You seem to have done nothing but tunnel on IS for most of your posting, so your random scum and town reads have me curious.

They have been explained. The very post you quoted has explanations for myko, Wanderer, and gameplay; I've explained DV before.
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Post Post #170 (isolation #9) » Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:23 am

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I'm here. I'm considering replacing out. But I really like this playerlist, and I don't want to further kill a game that's already suffering from activity issues.

But my thoughts are basically the same. I'm convinced by my reasoning against IS. I don't know a different way to word it that would convince people to join me though. :P I'd also be willing to wagon mykonian if that ever happened, as I have a gut feeling there too.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #10) » Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:24 am

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Oh, and I disagree with the Vedith wagon. He looks town to me.
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Post Post #174 (isolation #11) » Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:12 am

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Firebringer; not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need.
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Post Post #388 (isolation #12) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:07 pm

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(I got it :D)
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Post Post #389 (isolation #13) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:08 pm

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(Oh crap I thought this was a signup thread, please ignore me)

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