Open 606: Near-Vanilla 40k TOWN WINS

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #109 (isolation #0) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:17 pm

Putting someone at L-2 is scummy?

VOTE: The Enigma

Fuck town! Rebel for life!

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #116 (isolation #1) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:26 pm

Ika, hammer!

Daytime sucks, I live for the night

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #122 (isolation #2) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:25 pm

Contrary to what I initially believed, he isn't even at L-1.

Even so, I agree with the sentiments of another player that day one sucks hard. Everything is speculation m8, so we might as well roll the dice.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #123 (isolation #3) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:27 pm

Also you couldn't lynch me if you wanted. The anti-town brotherhood is strong.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #129 (isolation #4) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:30 am

UNVOTE: The Enigma
VOTE: Simple Plan

Also okay indiscriminately murdering DoctorVahlen and Vedith

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #132 (isolation #5) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:52 am

Why if you was so against Hermit's comment and happy for a quick lynch on him, your vote remained on Random?

Because he's scum!

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #135 (isolation #6) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:04 am

Iso'd Vedith like a dozen times now. The gut is strong

VOTE: Vedith

Apologies for being all over the place. I have a better feeling about this one over ASP, but I am fine lynching ASP if this wagon fails to gain traction.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #136 (isolation #7) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:09 am

Now that I think about it, Yimmy is just as scummy as Vedith. IDK, this game is difficult day one.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #137 (isolation #8) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:18 am

Actually, screw this

VOTE: ASP

No need to change things up now. ASP scum read me without voting me, and that is the closest thing to a non-speculatory tell we are going to get. It is also day one, and I do not want to overload on meta anaylisis and all that other bullshit

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #139 (isolation #9) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:14 am

Are you scumreading him? My vote is a day one policy lynch for declaring intention without acting on it.

If you are scum reading ASP, you are pretty much guilty of the same crime.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #148 (isolation #10) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:08 pm

OMGUS vote with no real reason to do so.

It was an OMGUS rvs vote in responce to a rvs vote. Your point?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #149 (isolation #11) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:09 pm

@ASP

What do you think of firebringer?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #150 (isolation #12) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:11 pm

I have 4 possible scum I am reading, which is my criteria for day one having gone on long enough. Wow, mafia really sucks at this game!

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #154 (isolation #13) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:10 pm

@ASP

If you are going to come online to just ignore this thread, you might as well replace out

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #159 (isolation #14) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:56 am

^ This is the safety post

The worst thing you can do is take away cohesion and decisiveness from town. This is day one. Unless we all agree to quicklynch someone else, usually you just run with the first wagon and pray the odds were in your favor.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #160 (isolation #15) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:59 am

I would totally lynch Vedith though, just saying...

Now stop wagging your dick around and claim! I do not want to waste anymore of my precious time with you insufferable people

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #163 (isolation #16) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:36 am

lolzies

Heretic scum!

Realizing its not necessarily scummy to be sassy makes me rethink that Vedith vote by Random a bit.

You have been playing under that account for 2 years, and just now you had the revelation that sassiness isn't scumminess? What influenced you without a flip?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #165 (isolation #17) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:54 pm

Stop it firebringer! I ain't your fucking whore, so stop treating me like one!

I am trying to understand ASP's way of thinking. By my own anaylisis, he probably suspects that me and RandomMidget are in a scum team, and we are organizing a lynch of Vedith. If he is the only one who thought this, then we should go through with lynching him, but if others have considered the same scenario he did, then perhaps lynching ASP isn't such a great deal after all

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #178 (isolation #18) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:57 am

[quote]Yes this is sketchy because it's never a good thing when someone tries to end the day prematurely but I don't think Constantine is being very serious about it. Are you?

VOTE: A Simple Plan[quote]
This is the scummiest thing posted all game, sorry m8T

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #179 (isolation #19) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:57 am

Yes this is sketchy because it's never a good thing when someone tries to end the day prematurely but I don't think Constantine is being very serious about it. Are you?

VOTE: A Simple Plan

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #180 (isolation #20) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:59 am

Are you guys still scum reading ASP?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #182 (isolation #21) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:37 am

Yes, but he is my third choice in my four scum reads as of now.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #185 (isolation #22) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:07 pm

VOTE: Vedith

He surpassed ASP as scum awhile ago.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #189 (isolation #23) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:53 am

I feel like Vedith gets labelled scum and lynched to early in games, would like to give him more time before I read then properly or push for a lynch

Okay, that slot obviously needs some meta analysis

UNVOTE: Vedith
VOTE: ASP

I was a bit hypocritical because I was arguing that back and forth on D1 is bad, but I took my vote off of the ASP wagon.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #190 (isolation #24) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:55 am

Some tunnel vision: If ASP

is

scum, then I would

FOS

Titus for this post

I like Vedith as scum and Druppin as town. Vedith I cannot get a feel for him taking a position anywhere.

VOTE: V

Also how did y'all not notice Hermit asked to lynch Doctor Vahlen who isn't even playing while scumreading him?

I am getting ahead of myself though

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #193 (isolation #25) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:11 am

^ You said it better than I ever could, lol

I almost want to lynch Titus just for that reason. I know that would be a big mistake though if Titus is town, because Titus is a total badass!

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #222 (isolation #26) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:44 pm

4xty, Ika, and myself are all obvious town

I would fight against a Vampirate, Firebringer, Yimmy, and Titus lynch today

That leaves Duppin, ASP, and Vedith for me. I am thinking that ASP is probably the most likely to be town out of these, but I admit that I can't read shit on any of these people.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #224 (isolation #27) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:51 pm

I think he has been one of the more critical players, and has managed to bring up valid points while not tunneling one specific person.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #226 (isolation #28) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:27 pm

Because I don't want to be indecisive

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #231 (isolation #29) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:09 am

My biggest concern is that most players have been pretty civil and are using a high degree of critical analysis that is quite rare on MS games.

For that reason I could see us going through with a policy lynch rather than gambling on a scum read today. Ika and The Enigma are both slots that have overall ignored the game state. Alternatively, Firebringer has been posting a lot of fluff and seems to be content sheeping rather than scum hunting.

UNVOTE: ASP

Thoughts?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #235 (isolation #30) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:56 am

@Duppin

I don't actually believe I called vampirate town in that post. He is town, but only because I am not scum reading him. You MS folks call that a null read, psshh

@Vedith

I don't think a policy lynch today is silly reasoning, especially when the people who are active are putting a lot of effort into scum hunting. Even the people I am reading as scum have done a lot of scum hunting.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #238 (isolation #31) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:06 am

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On the Fifth Solar Echelon, in the year

2035

, top military advisors of the Adeptus Mechanus brought forward three battle plans for winning the war against the mutants, aliens, heretics, and rebels
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Spoiler: Top Secret Plan One

Spoiler: Top Secret Plan Two

Spoiler: Top Secret Plan Three

Mod note-

"It is the 41st Millennium."

I tip my hat to you for this post regardless

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #240 (isolation #32) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:10 am

Why do you want to defend your null reads?

As I said, unlike MS players, non-scum reads are town for all intents and purposes. This mindset leads to a lot less mislynching.

I'd also like to know why you scum read me.

You strongly resemble the scum meta of a couple other people. In other words, it is a gut thing!

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #242 (isolation #33) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:13 am

In post 238, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On the Fifth Solar Echelon, in the year 2035, top military advisors of the Adeptus Mechanus brought forward three battle plans for winning the war against the mutants, aliens, heretics, and rebels
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Spoiler: Top Secret Plan One
- Sheep Titus on Vedith for honor and glory! Hurrah!

Spoiler: Top Secret Plan Two
- Be the vanguard of democracy and lynch ASP to ensure unity and cohesion! Hurrah!

Spoiler: Top Secret Plan Three
- Play it safe and policy lynch Enigma for ultimate stategic and tactical efficiency! Hurrah!

Without looking at these top secret plans, chose one at random so we can end this goddamn day! I think it is in our best intrests if we all agree to collectively limit our options. I have a feeling this is heading towards a no lynch.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #244 (isolation #34) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:15 am

FOS Vampirate

I wish I knew actual statistics, but I would like to say 80% of players whom consistently make wall posts that only respond to one player are scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #247 (isolation #35) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:18 am

In post 246, duppin wrote:
In post 240, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:

I'd also like to know why you scum read me.

You strongly resemble the scum meta of a couple other people. In other words, it is a gut thing!

Elaborate please.

I will try my best your highness

Past Scum Metas = Duppin Meta = Suspicious = Scum?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #249 (isolation #36) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:22 am

Vampirate, please decide on who you are going to murder?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #263 (isolation #37) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:36 am

I don't think I can be more obvious town than I already am

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #264 (isolation #38) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:47 am

There has also been speculation that Vedith's plays are not extremely different from his town meta. I don't think I am going to push a wagon on him, but I will join it if he surpasses ASP.

This last post from Titus made me reevaluate my read on her. Titus is a total badass as town, and I am not getting the feeling this is town Titus.

I am not confident in an ASP lynch anymore, and it is likely to be uninformative to say the least. I find some of the subtle connections between him and Titus suspicious though, so I believe Titus would be a more informative lynch in order to read ASP.

That leaves me with two new options. Lynch Titus or Policy Lynch Enigma.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #266 (isolation #39) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:22 am

I've responded to Titus, ASP, Vedith and now you, how is that 1 person?

You wall post individual players, like you just did with me.

1. I think cohesion and decisiveness is important. Scum wins the more we refuse to consolidate
2. Her behavior
3/4/5. As 4xty point out, Titus appears to be advoiding any critical anaylisis of the ASP wagon, making her a minority party. Her switch to voting me after my revived pressure on ASP is also alarming. The actual reason I am scum reading Titus is because she isn't playing in line with the rest of the players. Her actions seem off, and I pretty much just saw her sheep Hermit, claiming to like a case that didn't even exist, which doesn't seem like town TItus.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #267 (isolation #40) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:24 am

Seriously though m8, stop wall posting. You literally quoted me 5 times just to ask me four of the five times what my case on Titus was, lol

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #268 (isolation #41) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:24 am

VOTE: Titus

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #271 (isolation #42) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:30 am

Yimmy, I can tell you right now Hermit is shooting from the hip way too much to be scum here.

Reckless posting is really difficult to pull off as scum. There are some that can but it's rare. Cause it just calls too much attention to themeselves, opens up too much room for mistakes.

This is the thing with scum tells though. If town usually gets cleared by voting all over the place, then scum can imitate the strategy as well.

Generally I agree that the players who analyze the most indiscriminately, and ask a lot of questions, more often than not happen to be town.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #272 (isolation #43) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:31 am

Just for the record though, Yimmy is town this game.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #275 (isolation #44) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:36 am

@Titus

If town lynches a town Titus on day one, we are not doing ourselves any favors

If you actually look at #259 though, Yimmy did not make a case on me. Your claim that Yimmy made a case makes me question whether the wagon on me is staged.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #277 (isolation #45) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:39 am

Please listen to what I am saying! Yimmy did

NOT

make a case on post #259, but Titus has said three times now that her vote was influenced by Yimmy's reasoning on post #259. This is a scum slip if I ever witnessed one.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #278 (isolation #46) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:39 am

@4xty This post was not directed towards you btw ^

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #283 (isolation #47) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:51 am

@Yimmy

I don't see any points. I noticed that you asked me two questions.

As for Ika, he hasn't been active at all, so I am fine policy lynching him. I am fallible at this game. When I say that Ika's first posts were obv. town, there is really no way for me to back that statement up on day one.

@Titus

You want to lynch me, but you also want me to resign the game?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #286 (isolation #48) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:54 am

Okay, that makes sense if you were taunting the scum team. I think you are insane to think 4xty is scum though. I am also under the impression now that Verity is a town player who appears scummier than he actually is.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #288 (isolation #49) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:58 am

Sexual attraction is chemical, Titus.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #290 (isolation #50) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:08 pm

My brain probably works a bit differently than yours. Since everyone starts this game with an overwhelming probability of being town, it is best to avoid justifying a town read until a sizable case presents itself. No case of such magnitude exists on 4xty, and although you have attempted to implicate him, I wasn't that convinced.

We are also thinking alike this game, and this is different, because it doesn't feel like 4xty is scum being agreeable for the sake of hiding behind an obvious townie. You guys are a lot alike too. You both know a lot about the game, and are valuable assets as town. That is partially why it took me so long to finally decide to vote for you.

As for why I think V may be town; it is a direct consequence of my own line of thinking, opposed to any association with 4xty being town.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #291 (isolation #51) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:09 pm

My knowledge pales in comparison to your greatness, Titus, but it is best to avoid tunneling the town block early into the game. This is good advice for both allignments.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #301 (isolation #52) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:38 pm

In post 296, Vampirate wrote:
We're at Day 1 right now, while I have seen a town bloc form early of town players before how do you know all 3 of you are town at this point in the game? How much history do all 3 of you have together?

There are players that are generally easy to read. Vedith is not one of them.

If you look at the game state though, everyone was sucking up to me for awhile, and Titus was the first to apply any pressure to 4xty.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #302 (isolation #53) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:49 pm

In post 299, Firebringer wrote:I don't think I agree with most what Hermit says, but I feel confident he is town.

Titus's slot has ignored all critical anaylisis on the major wagons, and instead is trying to extremely light tunnel the players that honestly have no chance of being lynched today, IE, me and 4xty. Sheeping Yimmy was like what? Then claiming to have liked her case was even worst, because post #259 only contained

ONE

question asking me why I stated I would be okay policy lynching a town read.

There was also some serious scumminess in regards to how she joined the game and began to vote Verity, but switched ships when Verity started to receive more attention than ASP. To top things off, Titus's meta is hard tunneling players that are usually scum, and since her play this game is light tunneling obvious town, I am under the impression that we are not dealing with town Titus

@Firebringer

What about Titus makes sense to you? I am pretty sure you are town reading me, 4xty, and Vedith, and it isn't like Titus has been making actual cases (instead resorting to common survivalist tactics)

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #308 (isolation #54) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:19 am

He is hoping to accomplish anything. He wants to start a hopeless wagon instead of taking the risk at being associated with a town flip. Despicable!

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #310 (isolation #55) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:07 am

This I am actually pretty passionate about.

For whatever reason, players on MS do not find it scummy or anti-town when someone purposefully signs up to a wagon that is unreachable. Scum do this a lot to avoid being associated with being on a wagon that flips town, but it is also anti-town, because one of the few powers you have in this game is your vote, and it is wasted when you put it on an unreachable wagon!

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #333 (isolation #56) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:21 am

In post 329, Vampirate wrote:
I'm going to reiterate, what I was reading on ASP there was possible scum trying to fit in. His "Can we please stop this conversation before someone gets banned" read like an overreaction to me and not in line with how things were naturally progressing.

I've said this half a dozen times, but there wasn't a case on me to begin with post #259. Yimmy asked me why I would be willing to policy lynch Ika and that was it

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #334 (isolation #57) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:26 am

Sorry, wrong quote

You sheeped yimmy's case on Hermit rather quickly. I would suspect a player of your caliber to ask more questions and dig than "Yep, players X case is very solid on player Y, Vote player Y".

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #337 (isolation #58) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:44 pm

Even so, Titus's praise for your case seems misplaced when it consisted of one inference in the form of a question.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #340 (isolation #59) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:59 pm

VOTE: ASP

Fair enough

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #344 (isolation #60) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:55 pm

Counterwagon...

Vampirate, now is not the time to be stupid.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #347 (isolation #61) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:04 pm

Jus' stahp!

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #358 (isolation #62) » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:30 pm

so even if I'm chosen you're not losing a PR

Good point! Ika, on the wagon we go!

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #368 (isolation #63) » Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:07 am

ASP, alignment?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #388 (isolation #64) » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:44 pm

Wow, I am totally lost right now.

Let's spice things up...

I am the Tech Priest. I dare you to night kill me.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #390 (isolation #65) » Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:46 pm

Nah, Tech Priest is my flavor

I didn't say my actual role

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #392 (isolation #66) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 12:13 am

No bullshit.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #396 (isolation #67) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:18 am

C)

Kill Titus with the intention of making Vedith, 4xty, and Hermit look guilty

#WIFOM

Why would you want to be killed?

I doubt I will die tonight

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #397 (isolation #68) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:20 am

Vote: The Worst

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #409 (isolation #69) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:08 pm

No.

They should start a townbloc behind me! I am a pr!

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #410 (isolation #70) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:09 pm

Gonna call Occam's Razor here for logic

Ew, you are one of "those" people

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #411 (isolation #71) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:11 pm

I was *this* close to targeting Titus last night too. I went with 4xty though.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #414 (isolation #72) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:55 pm

Trying to insult me like that instead of replying? Get real

Eh, so you are also one of "those" people as well

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #422 (isolation #73) » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:03 am

In post 403, ika wrote:
In post 398, 4nxi3ty wrote:ika, what's up?
any thoughts about the game?

not much

nope, ill iso and make poe block tonight i got work in an hr and got to get ready

but for now: VOTE: saint

You are wasting your time and effort Ika

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #423 (isolation #74) » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:05 am

My lynchpool is Vampirate, TheWorst, Firebringer, Random.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #446 (isolation #75) » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:35 am

I should of been voting Duppin right from the gecko.

VOTE: Duppin

Honestly I think we are overthinking things. Let us just go under the assumption that all the active trying players are town for right now.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #467 (isolation #76) » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:11 pm

Like I said earlier, I am under the impression that all the active players are actually town. We have lurking scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #485 (isolation #77) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:57 am

But Ika loves me, I know that for sure! Right Ika?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #500 (isolation #78) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:44 pm

Scum is probably one of the many inactive lurking players plaguing this game, like Duppin, Random, and Ika. One of these slots should be policy lynched, if not replaced.

Mala is also probably scum. Voting me is stupid as hell. I have already claimed a power role and this is a known set-up.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #503 (isolation #79) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:49 pm

Well, for the record, I am a pr. Therefore the other town PR knows what my role is.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #507 (isolation #80) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:25 am

If I reveal whether I am a doctor or a jailkeeper, that kind of defeats the WIFOM element of whether I will be killed tonight or not.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #520 (isolation #81) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:16 pm

Well obviously the people trying to find justifications to start a wagon on me are scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #521 (isolation #82) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:19 pm

And yes, 4xty is right. Fakeclaiming to be a powerrole is suicidal in this game. Scum would only claim vanilla town

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #524 (isolation #83) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:47 pm

I am pretty sure you are scum, but I was going to wait awhile before I start a wagon on you.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #525 (isolation #84) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:48 pm

I think everyone here would insta-scum read firebringer if it were not for his eccentric personality that makes us question whether his plays could be town.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #537 (isolation #85) » Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:34 pm

Okay, so I just realized that there are three scum as opposed to two.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #576 (isolation #86) » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:01 am

Well I wouldn't be opposed to lynching TheWorst, but right now I would rather lynch someone who is both inactive and scummy

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #591 (isolation #87) » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:51 am

That scum wall

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #592 (isolation #88) » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:52 am

VOTE: randommidget

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #679 (isolation #89) » Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:01 am

Forgot to use my night action, srry

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #685 (isolation #90) » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:46 pm

@Mala
First of all it is best to be honest about your night actions. If I pretended like I didn't goof up last night, it would just come back later to bite me in the ass.

I targeted 4xty night one, and I was planning on targeting Firebringer last night btw.

@Ika
Don't be a dipshit, I am a claimed PR in an open set-up. All I need to do is claim and you can't lynch me, if it wasn't already god awful obvious.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #693 (isolation #91) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:37 am

@Ika

There is no need to claim today. All that does is remove the WIFOM element that is keeping me safe right now.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #694 (isolation #92) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:39 am

@Duppin

Yes, someone please explain to me why I

need

to claim.

As long as I am not at L-1, I see no reason for me to out which of the two known power roles I am.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #697 (isolation #93) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:49 am

In post 695, Firebringer wrote:
In post 693, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:@Ika

There is no need to claim today. All that does is remove the WIFOM element that is keeping me safe right now.

Well I know that you are either investigative type role or protective.
Likely Investigative, so you kind of might as well claim.

Did you even read the opening post?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #707 (isolation #94) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:01 pm

Do not L-1 claim until near the end of the deadline.

Just trying to figure out whether scum is this bad. Whatever the case, stop rolefishing.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #713 (isolation #95) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:46 am

Don't claim vampirate. It only helps scum this early into the game.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #717 (isolation #96) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:44 pm

NO!

Stop wall posting!

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #721 (isolation #97) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:31 pm

In post 714, Firebringer wrote:
Wow, I had no idea. Next time I will just claim POWER ROLE anytime someone asks, because you know CLAIMING A SPECIFIC ROLE IS HELPING SCUM.

Duppin said it earlier, but I could just be a vanilla townie soaking up a night kill. I could just be using that as an excuse to never be lynched.

That isn't the case though, but WIFOM keeps people paranoid and afraid to act. My continued existence relies on the other power role not being discovered.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #722 (isolation #98) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:32 pm

VOTE: Yimmy

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #782 (isolation #99) » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:02 am

I hate when my lynchpool is to large.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #785 (isolation #100) » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:16 pm

One of the people who we failed to lynch is scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:22 pm

lol, randommidgets readlist is really bad.

Still don't see how claiming a PR doesn't instantly absolve me. It would be incredibly stupid for scum to do.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #826 (isolation #102) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:19 am

The first thing I did was state my flavor. I claimed to be a tech priest.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:17 am

Random isn't making any sense with this flavor nonsense

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:18 pm

???

... Okay, but you do realize that this is an open game, right? Flavor means absolutely nothing.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #835 (isolation #105) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:12 pm

Because Yimmy's scum

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #840 (isolation #106) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:25 pm

The flavor thing doesn't mean anything, but it did show that I am not an Imperial Guardsmen, IE, vanilla townie, IE, vanilla.

If I am scum, then I die immediately when we full claim (unless I am doing the VT thing which Duppin pointed out)

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #846 (isolation #107) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:06 am

I think some of the people dwelling on me are scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #858 (isolation #108) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:12 pm

Firebringer, I love you man, even if you are scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:01 am

I targeted 4xty last night.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:03 am

BTW

VOTE: Theworst

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:06 am

Or Duppin. ...

Refusing to claim has helped me uncover who was desperate or not to discover my role. Duppin or TheWorst is scum. Maybe both.

Still not specifying my role. I am a bit worried about our chances, and I don't want to give scum more information than they already have to game the system.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:34 am

Uhh, okay

VOTE: Firebringer

That wasn't suspicious or incriminating at all. Not just this post either, my scumread had been on firebringer for some time, such as all his NK speculation.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:39 am

Yeah, that post kind of through me over the edge. There are three scum in this game, which means it is logical for me to be scumreading at least 5 people.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:41 am

That could of been a slip from another game though. My advice is to tell the listmod immediately if that is the case.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #972 (isolation #115) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:21 am

@4xty
Duppins responce is off in my opinion.

@Duppin
I don't care if I am voted. I wont even claim at L-1 at least until we hit our first scum. We have too little information ourselves, so why I want to give even more information to scum? The moment I out my role, scum know how to game the system.

@Firebringer

Please explain what that post was. Looked like you slipped from a scum PT, and if it is from another game, that needs to be prioritized.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #973 (isolation #116) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:22 am

I mean, yeah, I liked TW's responce. I liked a couple of his other responces earlier into the game, but my suspicions still have not been eased on him.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #976 (isolation #117) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:55 am

Your logic is faulty, because it resides on the premise that the only alternative to me not claiming today is being mislynched.

Go ahead and vote me, I feel quite strongly about my position right now. In fact, what I want to avoid today is having a bunch of players get to L-1 and being forceclaimed.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #977 (isolation #118) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:56 am

Anyways, do people feel like joining me on this wagon?

VOTE: Duppin

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #998 (isolation #119) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:21 am

Too many strong reasons to kill everyone.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:02 pm

Please lynch Duppin or Firebringer with me today

Also huntress is sort of a scoundrel, so let's eliminate her too

St Constantine the Hermit · Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:02 pm

I did consider claiming. Glad I didn't, because it seems scum revealed themselves quite easily.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:04 pm

I am still totatally convinced that not claiming is the right move, so before I even consider claiming, you would need to make me doubt my own convictions.

It has been attempted, but I think the attempts have been really bad. Don't want to bother explaining why they are bad, since this role fishing is scum-slip parkour.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:07 pm

Duppin, if I actually thought your policy lynch would succeed, I would of claimed already.
It isn't going too though, so it would be great if you tried voting for a plausible scumread of yours.

VOTE: Firebringer

I am personally going for firebringer, because I am super sure he is scum. I am not super sure if you are scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:55 am

I was reading huntress's tunnel walls as scum. I have a hard time believing anyone experienced would play like that, so it could be town, but usually that kind of play ends up being scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:07 pm

I am an impossible lynch Firebringer.
Having two scumbuddies may give you more confidence, but you will need more than yourself and duppin/ika.

Seriously though, stop saying incredibly scummy shit. I do not know your meta, and the only reason I keep preventing myself from hard tunnelling you was because TheWorst defended your meta as being town. If it were not for that, I would of never shut up about lynching you.

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:46 am

VOTE: Huntress

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:59 am

Still don't want to claim. No reason too, and the more scum does not know, the better off town is.

Also I believe the most vocal role fishers are scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:04 pm

A CC would of been inevitable as scum. What a terrible strategy if I actually lied about being a PR in a game with two town powerroles.

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:10 pm

This isn't lylo buddy.

The moment one town powerrole claims, I would die instantly as scum. You do understand that right?
Anyone thinking I am scum is outright nuts! The fact that I am such solid town is exactly why I shouldn't feel pressured into claiming and giving scum information.

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:12 pm

In summary, I refuse to claim until Mylo.

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:13 pm

Also I am 51% sure that Duppin is scum and has been avoiding a nightkill on me because he thinks I am actually a VT lying about having a PR.

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:32 pm

Duppin, your logic doesn't make sense "to me"

What is stopping me from confirming myself in lylo? Maybe in mylo scum could pull off some risky gambit and intentionally CC me, but that would be suicide, so I would cross that bridge when it comes.

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:33 pm

Pretty much what I am saying is that there is nothing stopping me from confirming myself tommorow, so why give scum more information today?

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:59 am

Here's the deal

I will claim if we lynch huntress today. I think claiming is worth the risk if I can get rid of my biggest scumread.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:00 am

Deal or no deal?

Actually it doesn't matter. I will claim when Huntress gets to L-1 with an intent to hammer on her.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:20 am

I want to make sure huntress dies tonight. I wont stop her from claiming of course.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:13 pm

I've said my piece. Claiming remains a bad idea, and I can push back any CC tommorow I promise

If you want my claim, lynch huntress today with me

Otherwise I am going to lurk until people actually start voting with their accusations

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:51 pm

I want to take down huntress today, and pull down some easy associatives of the people who are refusing to vote her.

I have already agreed to use my claim as an incentive to lynch her. That is the only way I claim today.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:08 am

@Duppin

No, but I am not even close to L-1 so I do not feel very threatened by your repeated attempts to label me a mislynch.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Oct 10, 2015 5:07 am

I was already convinced that claiming today is a good idea. I am just not going to do it until Huntress gets to L-1, because the threat of not claiming is giving me some leverage to go after a really hard lynch.

Okay?

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:35 am

Malakittens is a mislynch.

Right now I am thinking the scum team is; Firebringer, Huntress, and Duppin or TheWorst

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:37 am

PE: Respect the follow up post, man

Today theworst is giving me more reason to believe he is town than duppin.
Firebringer should of went a long time a go, but lynching him would be sluggish.
Huntress is probably achievable

If no one noticed, duppin/firebringer/huntress have been quite sychronized in their posts, and all three remind me of scum players from past games.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:50 am

I would bet you statistically that the majority of wall posters are scum.

If a wall poster tunnels only one person excessively, you have a better chance at being hit by lightning than that person not being scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:12 pm

Can we PLEASE lynch huntress?

So scum it hurts! Frustrating that you guys don't see it!

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:17 pm

I find it hard to believe that, with your experience of this site, you haven't come across players who regularly make longer posts or who focus on one player at a time in some of their posts.

Well better believe it

I am the jailkeeper (tech priest), and even though I am giving up my leverage, I hope others will be able to focus on how much scum you are if they are not focusing on how somehow I am trying to pull of the worlds greatest scum gambit.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:18 pm

Any scum want to CC me to get wrecked?

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:18 pm

Tommorow is mylo, worth a shot, right?

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:31 pm

So I am probably going to get protected tonight, but I wouldn't wifom just in case scum get ambitious.

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:55 am

I targetted 4xty again.

It is suprising as hell they haven't targetted 4xty yet. That is the only reason I am suspicious of the slot.

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:26 am

I have been scumreading huntress hard today as well

VOTE: Huntress

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:26 am

I mean yesterday

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:29 pm

I am adding 4xty to my lynchpool. He appears super town, but he could have a scum meta similar to Maxwell Puckett (who is awesome at this game actually)

That leaves Duppin, Huntress, Ika, Malakittens, and 4xty.

We have a 40% chance of randomly hitting scum with theworst out of the picture, and it would be nice if someone were to make a case clearing at least one other person from the lynchpool,

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:31 pm

I have been extremely convinced that Huntress was scum for the past couple of days. We really need to vote her if we want to win.

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:34 pm

Scum really fucked up this game by not killing any powerroles, despite one being claimed since day two. Really bad play IMO.

I think it is next to impossible that we wont kill at least one scum either today or tommorow. By MYLO, tjhe lynchpool is going to be so incredibly small, and we know 1 powerrole will be alive as a 100% guarantee, meaning scum is pretty screwed.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:13 am

You dunces

^ This is scum

So tired of having to restate the brutally obvious

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:30 pm

STOP! STOP IT RIGHT NOW AND VOTE HUNTRESS! I AM CONFIRMED TOWN DAMMIT! LISTEN TO ME!

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:55 am

@Mala I am right though! Huntress is definitely scum!

@4xty I can buy mala and huntress being together. Your association with duppin has me suspicious, but I wont bring it up unless huntress flips town.

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:43 am

Just vote huntress and rest easy

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:08 pm

We are lynching you no matter what. If you flip town than I personally will vote for duppin (and then 4xty if duppin flips scum)

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:18 am

Scum betting on the no lynch will be their downfall

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:05 pm

@TheWorst

If huntress doesn't flip scum, then we will pull off a last ditch on Duppin

@4xty

Well I personally have been pretty dead set on huntress. There was no point in convincing me to go anywhere else. I wouldn't put it beyond me that you are a really good scum player. You have kind of gotten a free pass because you have been so helpful, and generally that is the best scum strategy anyways.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:09 pm

Lots of pressure. Almost feel like being safe and cross protecting, although I wouldn't *or will I* because that would just be wasting the utility of both our roles *or would it*

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:11 pm

By the way, this whole time I have been lying about being a jailkeeper, and no one counterclaimed me. That is going to make one hell of a post game discussion, not that anyone is going to believe me, lol. I have never been lynched in a single game where I have claimed scum as scum to my knowledge.

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:25 am

This is going to be some serious mindfuck if huntress flips town.

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:35 pm

I find that the people who you think are to easy do usually happen to be scum.
I blocked malakittens. No kill. Caught scum.

VOTE: Malakittens

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:43 pm

No kill would of made winning near impossible like it is now. Their lynchpool is so small.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:25 pm

Were you scum 4xty?

Also yes I agree. Scum made seriously bad decisions with its night kills, which I shared as early as several days ago.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:27 pm

Winning is impossible at this point. No one will disagree.
Final scum should just out themselves.

Also I agree with theworst that scum killed a lot of possible mislynches this game. Look at the players still alive for gods sake!

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:29 pm

In post 1398, ika wrote:w and if doc dies at any point the person jk is confirmed not scum

If you read the set-up, you would see that the jailkeeper is town. No one counterclaimed me, which would be pretty wild if I were scum. But I could be, you never know...

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:14 am

You did good Swagird. There were a lot of minor mistakes, but you didn't jeopardize the game which is what counts.