Open 606: Near-Vanilla 40k TOWN WINS

[Firebringer]

I like RVS
VOTE: Firebringer

I like omgus votes best!!

VOTE: juckter

[Firebringer]

How about joining me on the OMGUS train?

We got awesome drinks and food.

All you can eat buffet!!!5

[Firebringer]

I forced no one. I asked him to confess. I take it you have something to confess as well?

yes, im a vt

This is fastest VT claim I have yet to see, kudos on breaking a record Ika.

[Firebringer]

I do like being a sheep in early game.

So sure!!
VOTE: duppin

Btw nice playing with you again Duppin.

[Firebringer]

Dying is not very enjoyable though.

actualy i would fine it to be the best thign to happen to me

Ika are you drunk?

[Firebringer]

I don't like duppin's posts commencing Ika's vote on him. It feels awkward and rather emotionless. I get the feeling he's trying too hard to not react to it which makes it strange.

VOTE: duppin

I'll sheep.

It really just sounds like a duppin post to me so I disagree with you.

I don't mind pressuring dipping for now though.

[Firebringer]

@Firebringer - How many games have you played with Duppin and what did he flip?

Can't comment only game is ongoing.

[Firebringer]

Firebringer

, how can you be so confident to say "That's not a duppin post" if you've only played one game with him that's still ongoing?

I see it as less alignment inductive as you.

It could be how he reacts to pressure on him as scum , I am just not as certain as you right now.

Null on duppin.

Keep him talking though, maybe he will give a slip

[Firebringer]

I don't think enigma is that much of a better wagon.

Though I do think enigma overreacted to duppin. Possibly was being opportunistic but I kinda doubt it.

[Firebringer]

Than duppin.

[Firebringer]

Your third person narration is very charming.

I'll look at him more closely, though just think he wanted to push it out of RVS

[Firebringer]

I am busy work!!!

[Firebringer]

I've read the case on Enigma, I think you guys make a good point this is the wagon to be on for now.

Ball in your court enigma.

VOTE: Enigma

[Firebringer]

can we lynch one of them?

Yes we are lynching enigma.

Come on, join us.

[Firebringer]

Do people really replace out when they are losing??

[Firebringer]

You know anyone who does that? That's a shitty personality trait lol.

I almost want to say no offense I those who do that, but I mean, really?

[Firebringer]

So what's everyone's top town read?

Mine is Ika, cause ika.

[Firebringer]

Duppin for top town read.
Firebringer has posted mostly fluff.
VOTE: Firebringer

Hey pot.

Meet kettle.

[Firebringer]

It's very odd when someone reads me as town....

Makes me kinda worried.

[Firebringer]

Why, do usually get read as scum in games?

cause from my pov your posting has been fairly transparent

You want a list of reasons?

Sure why not:
-I post a lot of fluff
-I am anti town (I don't know about that bit w/e)
-I sometimes ignore questions that I feel are pointless
-I don't scum hunt as hard as other players (some say I don't hunt scum)
-I fake emotions (again false)

Anyways that's probably just a few I've heard since I joined.

[Firebringer]

We'll tbh I consider day one kinda of silly day , I get players wanting to scum hunt . Nothing good ever good comes from day one usually.

Interactions and reactions are good and all, I just don't think day one is reliable for figuring that.

How often you find reads on day one reliable?

[Firebringer]

Your posts are fluff, Yimmy.

Welcome to club, maybe you should vote yourself.

[Firebringer]

Yummy again posting pointless stuff.

Questions are only useful up to a point.

Right now it seems like you are just pretending to be doing work or seem active.

[Firebringer]

It's alot harder to do things when one doesn't understand half the things said.
Is there something wrong with making people talk? As far as I know to scumhunt, people need to have said things, and the more things the more info to go on. Frankly, I don't fancy lynching people based on one thing they've said.
Fluff will never accomplish anything, questions will get info.

Can you seriously do anything but ask questions!!!

I say: looks like you are pretending to scum hunt with just question after question.
You: questions are useful, don't you think so??

Of course questions are useful but if all you do is ask questions it doesn't look like you are even thinking, it looks like you are just asking random question after random question with no actual goal.


Your questions are becoming fluff, I can see maybe one ore two useful questions you asked. The rest are pointless and stupid.

You turned questions into fluff, I don't think I am only one who sees it.

[Firebringer]

Forwhomthejellyrolls, sorry I missed your question about what I learned.
My first question started like half the discussion in the game.
I learned what duppin meant
I learned what firebringer was trying to say.
The rest where ignored or avoided
Yes, 3 of those where so I could understand what people where saying
firebringer oh man 1 question out of 6 sentences is 100% questions also I'm good at math

Wow a post without a question.

You alright? Not having any withdrawals right?

[Firebringer]

@vedith so fluff is better than nothing, go read what I said again you clearly didn't.

Anyways I am not scum reading him yet.

I like Constantine mind frame on day one <3

[Firebringer]

That's the spirit!!!

What is ASP at anyways? Laziness....

[Firebringer]

Are you scumreading him? My vote is a day one policy lynch for declaring intention without acting on it.

If you are scum reading ASP, you are pretty much guilty of the same crime.

I actually have him a null, and I don't intend to hammer him right now even if he was L-1

If that's what your talking about.

[Firebringer]

Randommidget has been off.

We can't wait on those replacements forever.

[Firebringer]

@Simple Plan
What's your thoughts on yimmy?

Null at worst, slight town lean. I think his posting has at least been more productive than the "fluff" Firebringer is claiming it is. In particular, 90 follows my line of thinking, and 42 at least offers a good comment toward Ika that I agree with. Granted, he could be more active, but by the same line of reasoning, I probably ought to be, myself.

90% fluff.

[Firebringer]

I have 4 possible scum I am reading, which is my criteria for day one having gone on long enough. Wow, mafia really sucks at this game!

Let me guess, i am one of them lol.

[Firebringer]

This game slowed down hardcore.

Constantine want to tell us who your 4 scum reads are?

[Firebringer]

lolzies

Heretic scum!

Realizing its not necessarily scummy to be sassy makes me rethink that Vedith vote by Random a bit.

You have been playing under that account for 2 years, and just now you had the revelation that sassiness isn't scumminess? What influenced you without a flip?

Lol I am enjoying you Constantine.

Also ASP I was talking about yimmy not you.

Sheep my vote.

[Firebringer]

Lol this is going to be a great game.

[Firebringer]

I honestly didn't know you were in this game till you posted lol. How can someone with your name be under radar that much lol

[Firebringer]

I like Vedith as scum and Druppin as town. Vedith I cannot get a feel for him taking a position anywhere.

VOTE: V

Also how did y'all not notice Hermit asked to lynch Doctor Vahlen who isn't even playing while scumreading him?

I feel like Vedith gets labelled scum and lynched to early in games, would like to give him more time before I read then properly or push for a lynch.

[Firebringer]

I honestly didn't know you were in this game till you posted lol. How can someone with your name be under radar that much lol

So what I'm reading is you're barely even paying attention to the game.

I pay attention to most posts but I am not perfect.

I don't keep notes of games.
I read the posts and move on.
Sometimes I go back to reread when confused.

So sorry if you feel like I am not trying, cause I am.

[Firebringer]

4 really coming to verity defense.

Anyways, I am unsure of ceding alignment still. don't really want that lynch today, I think I said that already.

[Firebringer]

Titus is town!!!!

Or is she?
We need activity.
Someone throw a chair or something. That will get people jumping.

[Firebringer]

My gut says town.

[Firebringer]

I say we got with duppin!!!

Even though I like duppin, he must be lynched.

In the name of fire!

VOTE: duppin

[Firebringer]

I honestly don't know who is best for lynch, keeping vote on Duppin cause I am so unsure.

Duppin reads null but I have no scum leans.

[Firebringer]

@Yimmy I only speak Engrish.

[Firebringer]

I resign myself to being right.

I will vote any of those three. No one else.

What a burden for you to resign to being right

[Firebringer]

@Titus

If town lynches a town Titus on day one, we are not doing ourselves any favors

If you actually look at #259 though, Yimmy did not make a case on me. Your claim that Yimmy made a case makes me question whether the wagon on me is staged.

If you saying lynching a possible town Titus isn't doing us any favors, why vote for her today?

Shouldn't we lynch a different person you think is scum?

My reads this game are shit. I feel Titus is making a lot of sense. Which scares me.

[Firebringer]

I don't think I agree with most what Hermit says, but I feel confident he is town.

[Firebringer]

That sheep on Yimmy was kind of odd, when I looked at it.

I don't know about lynching Titus today though. The meta reasons actually paint her as more town to me than anything else. I would like to hear more from duppin.

How you reading him?

[Firebringer]

This I am actually pretty passionate about.

For whatever reason, players on MS do not find it scummy or anti-town when someone purposefully signs up to a wagon that is unreachable. Scum do this a lot to avoid being associated with being on a wagon that flips town, but it is also anti-town, because one of the few powers you have in this game is your vote, and it is wasted when you put it on an unreachable wagon!

So joining a wagon for a player you think is town, is somehow a town move? What?
What kind of logic is this?

Like I understand regretfully joining up with trains because you read a player Null, or partly think lean town on them a little, but if you think a player is full on town and their is no doubt about it in your mind. That is EXTREMELY ANTI TOWN to join the wagon just for a lynch to take place.

[Firebringer]

Why doesn't the worst ever ask me anything ;(

[Firebringer]

I thought you hated questions! I fear for another question rant if I ask you something.

I hate stupid questions, fluff questions, and questions that are loaded.

So maybe it is best you don't ask me any.

[Firebringer]

So what lynch right now would give us most info? I mean day one lynches generally don't give you much info imo.

I feel like Vedith is town this game.

[Firebringer]

I have no idea where you will vote.

[Firebringer]

Ohhh Yimmy?
Not sure about them. I mean, not against that lynch.

[Firebringer]

Waiting on that case for hermit.

For time being:
VOTE: Yimmy

This is for not being useful! Also possibly being scum.

[Firebringer]

Reads List:

Town-
St Constantine the Hermit
Titus
Vedith
4ni3ty-(Leaning Null)

Null-
ika-(Some town vibes)
duppin
ForWhomTheJellyRolls
The Worst
Vampirate-(Slight scum lean)

Scum-
Yimmy
The Enigma

[Firebringer]

Am I here?
If I am im sticking with my vote.

Are you imaginary?
Is this just a fantasy?

What the difference between real and not real? Is it just semantics?

Am I real?

[Firebringer]

Well, not much to go on and 2 people need replacing...

I think Titus being killed was an over shot, there was no need with how the day was left.
The kill on Titus is more of a setup I think rather than taking out a good player.
I would rule Vampirate and 4nxi3ty out for this.

Myself and Firebringer had strong town reads on here so this is where we should go today imo.

VOTE: Firebringer

what? I am a strong town lead so you vote me? If you are saying you had a strong town read too by same logic shouldn't you be scum if I am?

#Confusing.

Anyways, this is where my vote needs to be:
VOTE: duppin
Explanations are for wannabe townies.

[Firebringer]

I mean strong town reads on Titus...

I actually wasn't as strong as you claim it to be, I think I said I had a gut feeling she was town. I don't think Titus was my strongest town read.

Correct me if I am wrong on that.

[Firebringer]

I dare you to make up a real role lol.
That aint no normal role bro.

[Firebringer]

C)

Kill Titus with the intention of making Vedith, 4xty, and Hermit look guilty

#WIFOM

So you're telling me that mafia wouldn't kill Titus because she's top town, instead would throw a kill at someone on the off-chance that somehow town will find all three she suspected nearly a hundred posts ago guilty? And mislynch them one by one for mafia win?

Gonna call Occam's Razor here for logic.

In my memory and experience, mafia always goes for top town or one of them, after the lynch flip. Or take away a threat to themselves. No WIFOM.

Yeah, I don't like being predictable as scum. I random my killings like a true pro. When their is no logic to killings is where I shine.

Don't try to go through my mind, I am one of those people who you will play cards with, who wont look at their cards and play blind. Don't try to rationalize all scum

[Firebringer]

im fine with lynchign saint personaly even if hes a pr

Who? What?
English pls?
I am confused....

[Firebringer]

@Vedith this is completely unrelated to this game, I just really like your new avatar and thought I would say it

Anyways, I don't see a good case for TheWorst to be lynched today. If he is town, I would like to keep him around, and I don't see good case on him being scum yet. Especially with one person on him being randommidget >.>

[Firebringer]

I totally forget that you had a vote on me lol.
Going to go back to ignoring it. I don't feel need to argue why I am obviously town

[Firebringer]

Vedith I think you have a bolt loose in your head. I don't think you are scum. I think your efforts would be better focused elsewhere buddy.

[Firebringer]

I don't feel need to argue why I am obviously town

Says the one who has at least 2 people willing to lynch him!
IDK, I just don't have much to say at all

Clearly you don't.
How you doing Yimmy? Life good?

[Firebringer]

As of now-
Vampirate-Null maybe willing to lynch, don't have strong feeligns for.
Duppin-Null, not willing to lynch at moment.
Randommidget-Leaning scum willing to lynch.

Ika-My townbloc

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Yimmy
We need a lynch, and the fact that we are close to deadline?
VC PLS!!!

[Firebringer]

Well damn, I thought we were closer to deadline then 9 days lol.
Well....this is awkward Yimmy. Or is it? I dont think I really care, you are bad town or scum so does it make a diff?

UNVOTE: Yimmy

You live...for now.

[Firebringer]

I pay attention!
Like 80% of the time.
You know some people like to write down their thoughts, take notes of games. I don't.
I keep all my thoughts in my brain.

[Firebringer]

What micro? What game did I mess up?
I am open about my opinions, I just don't keep notes of games, so sometimes I am lost when I am posting. That is all I am saying.

[Firebringer]

I did not stalk you Ika. Well, I did into this game specifically, and a few others....
I am not making a good case on that.

YOU WERE THE ONE TO TELL ME ABOUT THIS SITE! Your fault, don't tell your stalker any info of where you are at bro, come on.

[Firebringer]

You love me Ika. I know it.

[Firebringer]

;( I am sorry Ika. Can I at least call you friend?

[Firebringer]

The inactivity in this game.

Come on, okay has anyones reads changed?
Who is best lynch for today and why?

[Firebringer]

I am reeally trying to get into this game but the lack of movement or direction plus all the inactivities is making it hard.

I want to call for a town block with someone who is strong town lead being the leader.

[Firebringer]

Scum is probably one of the many inactive lurking players plaguing this game, like Duppin, Random, and Ika. One of these slots should be policy lynched, if not replaced.

Mala is also probably scum. Voting me is stupid as hell. I have already claimed a power role and this is a known set-up.

Wait, when did you claim a power role?
No one is voting you either....

[Firebringer]

If I reveal whether I am a doctor or a jailkeeper, that kind of defeats the WIFOM element of whether I will be killed tonight or not.

Wouldn't you be killed either way?

[Firebringer]

I think Yimmy is due for a prodding.

[Firebringer]

I'm not liking randomidgets not answering of the questions asked him

If I reveal whether I am a doctor or a jailkeeper, that kind of defeats the WIFOM element of whether I will be killed tonight or not.

I don't see how that would change much? As I see it, most sane doctors/jailkeepers would protect you and if you're a doctor you just made a bad decision

I don't like how you have 4 votes on you and you have barely addressed that.

[Firebringer]

Mine was because other options are not my preferred vote.
I'll swap to Firebringer if all agree though.

>.> Vedith, don't make me come after you.

[Firebringer]

Vedith, you are out for blood....

You probably are not mafia lol

[Firebringer]

And yes, 4xty is right. Fakeclaiming to be a powerrole is suicidal in this game. Scum would only claim vanilla town

The amount of WIFOM that hermit is pulling is mind blowing.
If I was scum I would flip a coin to decide if I was going to kill him lol.

[Firebringer]

I am pretty sure you are scum, but I was going to wait awhile before I start a wagon on you.

Really? I am pretty sure you aren't lol.

Got any reasons? Or just gut?

[Firebringer]

I think everyone here would insta-scum read firebringer if it were not for his eccentric personality that makes us question whether his plays could be town.

This sounds so ironic coming from you and your eccentric behavior lol.

[Firebringer]

So what I'm reading is you'll target Vedith if he moves from me?


And now it looks like you're saying you don't believe Hermit's claim (for a super bad reason btw the real PR would've counterclaimed by now)... And then you say that as scum you would kill him? What a beautiful contradiction
VOTE: Firebringer

1) I was actually implying that I would target him if he voted for me. Way to make it about you though.

2) You are implying way too much shit from my posts. First off, I never said I don't believe Hermits claim, I said that he is WIFOM this game hard. I also didn't say I would kill him, I said I would flip a coin if I was.

You don't think its odd he claimed without any pressure on him? I kinda do. Does that mean I doubt his claim? It means I am not sure of it, but I am willing to go along with it for now.

[So you will say, "YOU DONT BELIEVE HIS CLAIM, GUILTY!"]

Ugh, Yimmy. You are frustrating.

[Firebringer]

Please point me to one post of his that seems towny.

Everything!
Cause I am townie

[Firebringer]

OMG HOW MUCH MORE POINTLESS DICUSSION MUST WE HAVE BEFORE WE CAN JSUT FUCKING LYNCH YIMMY?

None?

VOTE: Yimmy

[Firebringer]

btw if sainta laive tommorw we run insta on that or force claim cus im sitck of wifom games

I guess, but you probably shouldn't have said that, cause now they might not attack him just because of this post.

>.>

[Firebringer]

We have 5 days left btw.

No update in like 2-4 days for VC by mod.

Biggest train is Yimmy obviously.
I think Yimmy is at L-3 (4 votes on him).

[Firebringer]

So besides tunneling me at this point by Yimmy.
Can anyone point to where Yimmy has been useful?
Like good reads, good posts?

He has been for most part just inactive in this game.
Not saying to policy lynch, I am just wondering why hasn't anyone putting more pressure on him.

Not like this game is full of activity anyways >.>

[Firebringer]

prob a prod dodge til sat

When you get back, give me what you think of the top three trains currently pls.

[Firebringer]

I'm sorry Mala, it's impossible to defend when the case is literally nonexistent
but yeah i am being awfully lurky in this game
I'm not scum, Vedith.

Can you give a full reads list so I can get your thoughts?

[Firebringer]

EBWOP Or, worded better, I am not going to give them a free pass because it's their meta

Not a free pass but it should be something you are aware off.
I like that you are standing your ground on most of your positions, but you are being very obtuse about your reads.

Firebringer: Scum yeah just look at my posts
Malakittens: Leaning town her posts have had some pretty decent scumhunting
duppin: Leaning town Has been doing some pretty decent scumhunting also
4nxiety: Null He seems pretty good, but a couple of his things I don't really like (such as "the replace out make this old news") and I can't help but feel he's trying to buddy me
Vedith: null Hasn't really done much in the way of content
Huntress: Null I don't like FWTJR posts that much, but he doesnt have much and just got replaced.
ika: Scum I literally see nothing that could make him town
Randomidget: scum lean And I thought FireBringer was fluffy...
St.Constantine the Hermit Slight scum lean I just had a thought about his claim, and that concerns me
TheWorst: Leaning town I don't really get why some people think he's scum
Vampirate: Leaning town Has also done some solid scumhunting

Okay this reads is kind of meh to me.
Like yeah, Ika and Me are scum like that would be the most obvious picks if you didn't know us or you just read the thread. Anyways randommidget is interesting one that I could maybe get behind if we decided to go there.
Not sure about Ika yet.

Meant more sure that Ika isn't scum than Firebringer.

Well I mean, it's how they play, and they aren't scum every game. Dunno what else to tell ya.

Interesting that you think I am more likely to be scum than Ika, any reasons why?
Or just a feeling?
I can deal with either.

[Firebringer]

I went and thought about Yimmy for awhile.
I came to conclusion that Yimmy is probably town. As much as I find them pushing me annoying.

UNVOTE: Yimmy

[Firebringer]

if me and fire were a scum team, i think we would be trying to bus each other in hilarity just to see how stupid we could be

Lol which one of us you think would get lynched? Cause I think I could get you lynched.

@hermit what about random midget? Who should've getting replaced actually.

[Firebringer]

Yeah that game was ugh.
Banana can bring out the bad in me as a player and get me to make a lot of mistakes.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: randommidget
I agree with dupin, that argument felt weak.

Also @Vedith, try me bro!

[Firebringer]

TheWorst isn't even in the top 3 lynches for today people.
Stop focusing him.

[Firebringer]

i rather tust you more mala i dont have a super decicive meta on him yet but i have yet to see any red flags

Do I have red flags?
I MUST KNOW SO I CAN CORRECT THEM!

[Firebringer]

Fire, do a self evaulation of yout town and scum meta for me and then do read list wiht no reason whatsoever in pretty colors

I could do that in my sleep!
But I don't feel like it right now, maybe tomorrow.
I am tired.

[Firebringer]

Fire, do a self evaulation of yout town and scum meta for me and then do read list wiht no reason whatsoever in pretty colors

I could do that in my sleep!
But I don't feel like it right now, maybe tomorrow.
I am tired.

Ill get on this soon.

[Firebringer]

I meant to get this out last night but ran out of time.

My suspicion of Firebringer is partly gut, partly because I didn't like the way he attacked Yimmy for asking questions
and was sarcastic when Yimmy explained what he had learnt, in reply to Jelly - Fb seemed to be trying to make Yimmy look bad while claiming not to have a scum read on him, partly his excuses for not doing much Day one, and partly his voting pattern on Day one - moving from one wagon to the next then leaving them for a solo vote at the end of the Day. Not too happy about his Day two play either as he seems to be looking for a lynch rather than looking for scum.

I'll have more time tomorrow to do the rest.

So, I left a wagon that lynched a townie, therefore I am scum? What?
I am looking for a lynch because we are running out of time...
What part of that do you not understand?

Yimmy so far hasn't given anything great in terms of usable information. He is pointing out players who are always looked on with suspicion. Name one player he gave a good read on.
I have been scum read by at least half of every game.

I overall think he is misguided townie. He could be scum for all I know though. Just going for easy lynches.

I still have yet to answer Ika question, will do so now.

[Firebringer]

St Constantine the Hermit

-That claim and his WIFOM this game makes me have no reason for him to be lynched or heavily doubted for this. We can revisit this read tomorrow but I think no need to lynch.

The Worst

-Overall I think people are suspecting him cause he would be a good target to lynch if he was town. Therefore scum would want him to get mislynched, I think players pushing him need closer inspection. While he could be scum, I am not convinced of it at all. His scum read of me ironically makes me trust him more.
4ni3ty-(Leaning Null)

Null-

ika-

(Some town vibes) Its hard to read Ika sometimes, lack of content posts and what not. I don't honestly know if I could tell for sure if Ika was scum. Though by his approach he seems more relaxed which I generally associate with town.

The Enigma/MalaKittens-

Just got in, Enigma I was scum reading, I don't know about Mala. I would not like to lynch mala today if we were going that route.

ForWhomTheJellyRolls/Huntress-

The previous player I had no read on, and Huntress I can't get much either. I like push on me, I think their arguments are piss poor, sometimes that means scum sometimes town. I don't know, I am keeping at null for this.

duppin

-Not that strong of a scum read, this is almost complete gut. This doesn't feel like Duppins town game. [Entirely Meta, I know >.>]

Vampirate-T

oday has given me more of a lean on vampirate for being scum.

Vedith-

Less active than normal for games, out of spotlight completely, I mean. Dang, I am almost sure about Vedith right now that I think about it. He is pushing me but not heavily, and almost seems scared too.


My Meta:
I play town sometimes with a lack of concern for getting lynched. Sometimes as "I don't care what you say" thing, I am either extremely stubborn when I think I am right or completely indecisive. I think as scum I play somewhat similarily, but I am more confident in my approach to my reads and pushes, or I am again extremely indecisive. I will bus or not bus depending on my mood. I usually don't let the game atmosphere determine me bussing.
Like if a lynch seems inevitable for a buddy, I might not be part of it. Especially if I wasn't pushing them at the beginning/mid of day.

Meta wise, I could see how some might see this as my scum game.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Vampirate
I am going this route for now, we have a day to decide a lynch guys.
Lets get moving. Discussions, sheeping, all that stuff.
Come on.

[Firebringer]

Vampirate-T

oday has given me more of a lean on vampirate for being scum.

Mind elaborating on this please?

So far you haven't provided alot and mostly been on the sideline, especially recently.
Thats where scum like to be during lynches and heavy discussions.

[Firebringer]

Hey Huntress want to explain your town reads on Vedith and Duppin when some consider them scum?

[Firebringer]

We have 13 hours, come on guys.
CONDENSE ONTO THE VAMPIRATE TRAIN!

[Firebringer]

Guys, move in on Vampirate.
Again, we are running out of time >.>

[Firebringer]

I thought I did have a vote on him?
VOTE: Vampirate

Just to make sure.

[Firebringer]

>.>

I am not getting on Randoms train, its too easy of a lynch.

[Firebringer]

I didn't like the way RM's wagon sprang up so quickly after I put a second vote on Fb and it's made me nervous of it, even though I have town reads on most of the wagon.

Vote: Vampirate

I can switch back to Fb if more people are willing to join me on that. I'll be around for the next three hours and then again for an hour or so before the deadline.

I don't get how you see me as a scum read and also Vampirate. I am pushing heavily on Vampirate, and I am about the only one to push him.
You think I am scum bussing teammate with nobody else supporting it?

I just don't get your read on me, and even Vampirate to a lesser extent.

[Firebringer]

OH HAI PAGE TOP

Any thoughts on the randommidget train Ika?

[Firebringer]

I thought no one died for a second....
Then I went back and read the Vedith was killed.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Vampirate
Yeah, that post seemed prepared for day start Vamp.

[Firebringer]

lol I am still laughing at TheWorst vote on me.
Okay, like honestly.

That case is stupid. I am the reason that lynch didn't happen? Ummm no.
TheWorst you sound like someone who wanted Random lynched more than Vampirate and you EVEN said that you weren't liking that train.

You looking mighty hypocritical dude.

[Firebringer]

Votes on me are bad, end of story.

Vote Vampirate. For a better future.
Lynch me tomorrow if I am wrong.

[Firebringer]

@Ika

There is no need to claim today. All that does is remove the WIFOM element that is keeping me safe right now.

Well I know that you are either investigative type role or protective.
Likely Investigative, so you kind of might as well claim.

[Firebringer]

You put Vampirate at L-1.
Role claim now Vampirate.

Ika hold off on hammer for a bit...

[Firebringer]

Do not L-1 claim until near the end of the deadline.

Just trying to figure out whether scum is this bad. Whatever the case, stop rolefishing.

Says the person who keeps teasing their role for stupid WIFOM?
That aint much.

And I will role fish, cause thats how I roll.

[Firebringer]

Don't claim vampirate. It only helps scum this early into the game.

So claiming a PR doesn't help scum, but claiming a specific role does?

Wow, I had no idea. Next time I will just claim POWER ROLE anytime someone asks, because you know CLAIMING A SPECIFIC ROLE IS HELPING SCUM.

[Firebringer]

Yimmy is just horrible useless town, everyone ignore him.

[Firebringer]

Yimmy is just horrible useless town, everyone ignore him.

If I'm so useless, why keep me alive? If you're just gonna insist I don't be acknowledged, why, oh why, are you not trying to lynch me?
yimmy is useless and shouldnt be in this game but we should leave him in that way we have a slot wasted! thatll help town!

How again does lynching a town member help us meet our objective?
It doesn't?

Ohh well I guess then it's a waste of a lynch.

[Firebringer]

Just get on Vampirate, Yimmy.

[Firebringer]

@Randomidget

If I were to hammer Vampirate right now, how would that make you feel? This is important.

@Vampirate

What do you claim then at L1? Also, way to explain your read on me, by which I mean the lack of it.

@Mod

VC for now, pls. This is like, necessary now.

Town gains nothing from me claiming right now as there's 8 days worth of possible discussion left (I hope if I get lynched it's not some last minute BS though). Go hammer me if you want.

As for my read, you just seem contrived. 4nxiety pretty much points it out.

Town gains something if you claim and then we decide not to lynch you.
Avoiding a mislynch is great, but you are not helping your case by avoiding claiming.
It looks scummier not to claim under this pressure.

I am not going to just take your word that you are town, I need something more definitive than just blind trust.

[Firebringer]

Lets evaluate both shall we.
1) Then we should lynch you.
2) You aren't helping anyone town read you or not mislynch you.

[Firebringer]

At this point, I would be perfectly fine with Ika hammering this.

Kind of sick of waiting for a claim, call it a PL at this point, if Vampirate is a PR I guess I will have to yell at him post-game.

[Firebringer]

I am going in a different direction.
VOTE: TheWorst

You guys can lynch me tomorrow if I am wrong, I got a good feeling that TheWorst is scum in this game.

[Firebringer]

Yeah....you are right.

I got nothing, I am just throwing shit and seeing what sticks.
UNVOTE: TheWorst

I am not that good at reads...in general, not just today lol

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Randommidget
I don't know what to do.

I am unsure of theworst, I feel confident that vampirate might be telling the truth.
Maybe I am the problem for this town >.>

[Firebringer]

What does that even mean?

You are either think i'm lying or not lying. This is a middle ground post here.

Obviously, hey Vamp irate who you think should be lynch of day?
Besides defending yourself, you haven't been doing a lot of scum hunting today.
Not saying I am doing much better in that department though >.>

[Firebringer]

You still aren't answering my question.

Stop picking apart my posts and answer,

WHO SHOULD WE LYNCH TODAY!?!?!

[Firebringer]

i thikn im more motivated as scum then town

You generally contribute more as scum it tends to feel like.
When I first started playing with you I had a tendancy to be like "Does Ika seem scum?" If Yes then conclusion was he was town. And opposite was true also.

[Firebringer]

We need a new VC >.>

[Firebringer]

Two wagons 3 votes on each.
How much you guys wanna bet at least one of these has scum?

@Mod: Not Actually Betting. Just a joke.

Honestly I think only reason we have two is because one of them is scum and other is not scum. Or maybe both are scum, I doubt both are town.

[Firebringer]

4nxi3ty - town
ika
Malakittens
TheWorst
Huntress - null
yimmy
St Constantine the Hermit - scum
firenbringer
Vampirate
duppin

This is pretty bad.
SO far you have only 1 town player?
What?

1 scum read is it either?

Jeez.

[Firebringer]

I meant that anxiety down to the worst are town, yimmy and huntress are null and scth down are scum.

Okay...you organized that oddly.

Also if you are going to label me as scum, the least you can do is spell my name right.
Jeez.

[Firebringer]

What flavor is their to fake claim exactly random?

That seems like scum slip.

[Firebringer]

Yes it is has.
Have anything to contribute besides that analysis of current game situation?

Like votes? Questions? Anything?

I think we should lynch Random over you, so it would be helpful if you help that along.

[Firebringer]

Is it odd that I don't want to lynch Random anymore?

Like I would rather go for a third choice here instead of these two....

[Firebringer]

I think some of the people dwelling on me are scum.

Listen hermit, I think you are town.
Can you help us figure out who to lynch today now?

[Firebringer]

Ugh...
I don't like this at all.
VOTE: Randommidget
Scum do me a favor and kill me tonight.

[Firebringer]

God I need to sleep.

I meant that Firebringer called Vampirate out and voted on him earlier, which he likes to do as scum (at least that is the impression I got from his scum game on this site), so if Vampirate flips scum it matches up.

Can you point to one game where this is actually true of me?

I don't even remember playing one game with you where I was scum.

[Firebringer]

Firebringer, remember, next time bring Duppin flowers and candy. Why do you always forget to do this?

He told me he didn't need flowers or candy.

He shoudl have just asked for some!

[Firebringer]

Anyways yeah i'm a VT.

Scum reads are

Huntress
Firebringer
The Worst

Null-scum are probably mala and random

Duppin is absolutely null as he seems to play it safe with his votes.

I think hermit is a catious town read.

I think 4nxiety is town but i'll see soon enough if Titus was correct.

I think that's everyone.

So huntress is scum with me and bussing me extremely hard?

[Firebringer]

Depending on how random flips, it should tell some about people's motivations.

So if Random flips town, what exactly does that tell you?

[Firebringer]

Are you trying to say scum want to stall his lynch to appear town if he is town?

I don't quite understand, I guess i will have to read and think about motivations behind the posts, which I am really awful at.

[Firebringer]

Going to do some rereading while waiting for Hermit to claim and for Firebringer to answer my questions.

What questions? Am I missing something?

[Firebringer]

What questions? Am I missing something?

These:

@ Firebringer:

Re: 720, why in particular did you want people to ignore Yimmy's 716?

@ Firebringer:

Re: 720, why in particular did you want people to ignore Yimmy's 716?

Still waiting for a reply to this.

Ugh...
I don't like this at all.

What didn't you like? Because it looked like your post was a reaction against Vampirate but you repeated your vote on random. Did I misunderstand that?

And I reminded you about them in 882 but you didn't respond to that either.

Yimmy was being annoying and so therefore should be ignored.

Also I was specifically talking about how I no longer liked the vampirate train, that is why I moved votes.
I thought that was clear, but w/e.

[Firebringer]

Uhh, okay

VOTE: Firebringer

That wasn't suspicious or incriminating at all. Not just this post either, my scumread had been on firebringer for some time, such as all his NK speculation.

lol at this jump.

So first it was "TheWorst or Duppin" then its "Firebringer I knew this for awhile" thats 3 posts later lol.

Its too funny Hermit.

[Firebringer]

@Hermit it was a post that was for the wrong game, I asked a list mod to delete it. They said since players already read and commented that deleting it would be bad.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: duppin
Already had suspicions, tbh I trust hermit more.

I mean theres on thing to trust a player and another to believe they are actually figuring the game out.

I trust hermit is town right now.
I don't trust his scum hunting on this game.

[Firebringer]

If Huntress is town, this tunneling is getting annoying.

[Firebringer]

I guess it would be annoying regardless of Huntress alignment.

[Firebringer]

So I kinda feel like voting duppin in this.
But its based on a gut feeling.

And my gut has been wrong lately. So I am not trusting it atm.

[Firebringer]

Hermit not claiming no doubt is annoying me.
But I feel like he is just lying VT at this point.

He was probably trying to bait that NK onto him and it failed hard. Scum probably came to same conclusion I did.

[Firebringer]

Duppin, if I actually thought your policy lynch would succeed, I would of claimed already.
It isn't going too though, so it would be great if you tried voting for a plausible scumread of yours.

VOTE: Firebringer

I am personally going for firebringer, because I am super sure he is scum. I am not super sure if you are scum.

You owe me ice cream when I flip town!

[Firebringer]

I am really indecisive this game. And I don't like it at all.

At the end of the day, everything goes back to YOLO

VOTE: Randommidget

I know....I just got nothing else.

Mala is null
I reaction tested duppin with my fake scum read, and It gave me a null reaction (typical duppin)
Hermit is definitely town.
4nix I have no opinion on so much so that it could be just scum hiding in plain sight.
Huntress tunnel on me is so god damn town.

[Firebringer]

Hermit I would definitely like to hear better reasons for why I am scum.

Cause you are probably the easiest mislynch pull off right now, and I am not pushing that for jack shit.
I really can't figure you out sometimes.

[Firebringer]

I am not going to lie, I kinda want to lynch Hermit just to prove him wrong about him being not lynchable lol.

I mean, thats really untrue, you have to be completely not paying attention to the vibe of the game if you don't realize that 2-3 people here want you lynched and are testing the waters to see if your lynch is viable.

[Firebringer]

Tbh IMO fb tendd to br trollier than hr is being tjid game.

You don't even know what a troll is.

[Firebringer]

Ika has been tunneling Hermit pretty bad for long time, you think this scum bussing?
You say Hermit is scum, yet you want to vote Ika.
You say Ika is just sliding by radar, when that doesn't seem very true.

[Firebringer]

Why do I think Ika pretending to be mad is a scum tell.....

[Firebringer]

fire, stay out of this.

I am kind of in this game though...

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Malakittens
Mala seems too neutral for me.

[Firebringer]

@Random certain questions ment for certain people, it gets annoying you answering for other people because we want to know their answer, not your answer.

Anyways this was a Prodge.

I am set on lynching Mala today, I see no better alternative.

[Firebringer]

Love you too Hermit.

[Firebringer]

Well hermit I think you are town, but all your reads are questionable.

I know at least one of them is wrong, mine.
So don't know what to say.
Huntress is probably town due to that tunneling, duppin is a null read for me. I have hard time reading him.

Anyways, no. That isn't the scum team. Try again.

[Firebringer]

I have never heard of this theory of wall posters being scum. Isn't that just a playstyle thing? lol.

Never heard of it being a scum tell Hermit.

[Firebringer]

Synchronized swimming is retarded.

[Firebringer]

I thought Random was answering for someone else lol, if it was directed at him. Yeah, I don't see problem with that.

[Firebringer]

I'm thinking that the scum team are Firebringer, TheWorst and Hermit. Not sure about Ika or Duppin. I don't want to lynch Mala, Random or Anxiety toDay.

This is the stupidest scum team for this game ever.

>.>

Like I bet you could random.org the player list to find a better and makes more sense scum team than this.

[Firebringer]

Rude TheWorst.
Rude.

[Firebringer]

Oh Anxiety. You townread me until I offered a reaction test which you bit hook line and sinker. Actually took me seriously pushing Mala. And STILL do.
According to you, I've been bussing Random since Day 2 (pffft) and now all of a sudden I decided to bus Mala for shits and giggles, switch back to Random bc it's easier to get him lynched. As if scum would want to lose numbers when they're one mislynch away from M/LYLO, WHICH is something I should realize as well.

Truth is I'm try to get a hold of town, because it really feels like scum is blending into the conversation this day.

so pls stop flip-flopping and being anxious over me, stick to the correct town read on me and actually find scum.

You good sir, are worst than I.

[Firebringer]

Earlier today I really wanted to push on TheWorst just for that comment he made. Then I cooled down and was like "yeah, he is probably town though. Scum!TheWorst wouldn't be such a dick"

[Firebringer]

TheWorst is town, would theworst be a dick to me if he was scum?
Probably not.

Therefore town.

Makes perfect sense to me. Next person!

[Firebringer]

We need a lynch. Period.

VOTE: Randommidget
This game is just not going well though >.>

[Firebringer]

I believe he claimed Vanilla Townie yesterday when he was at L-1 Ika.

[Firebringer]

NOW you guys want to lynch Random?

Where was this enthusiasm before? When you guys tried to lynch Vampirate?

Please point out my enthusiasm in my vote, because it wasn't enthusiastic at all.

[Firebringer]

Yeah.

I kinda feel like random will flip town and that this game is going to just end badly. Who knows though >.>

[Firebringer]

I kinda feel like the people here are town and that I just helped cause basically last mislynch and this game is over and I should feel bad, even though this game was just digressing and going nowhere

[Firebringer]

Well 9 people alive, 1 mislynch. 1 person dies.

LYLO tomorrow. Still theoretically possible to win this, but given status, I dont' think its likely at all.