Open 606: Near-Vanilla 40k TOWN WINS

[Yimmy]

Never played game with RQS
VOTE: The Enigma

[Yimmy]

But for that you have to wait till D2

[Yimmy]

@Vedith: How does understanding bandwagoning is a great way out of rvs make one mafia?
@Ika: Don't some people act confident about an RVS vote simply as their platstyle? I've never seen anyone acknowledge that as a scumtell
Vediths reaction seemed pretty extreme to me

[Yimmy]

@duppin How does being the leading wagon affect how suspicious vote was?
@Vedith 55 Bandwagoning is a great way out of RVS from my experience
@Vedith 57 cause it didn't work this time at all nope not one bit
@TheWorst 60 I sheeped you because bandwagoning gets you out of RVS great from my experience
@Firebringer 61 Much of a better wagon than what?

[Yimmy]

Better things? Like what?

[Yimmy]

UNVOTE: The Enigma UNVOTE:
I feel lik lynching based on a single post is a bit extreme.
I don't think we should lynch until we get more evidence.

[Yimmy]

Duppin for top town read.
Firebringer has posted mostly fluff.
VOTE: Firebringer

[Yimmy]

Duppin for top town read.
Firebringer has posted mostly fluff.
VOTE: Firebringer

Hey pot.

Meet kettle.

What?

[Yimmy]

Please define fluff.

[Yimmy]

It's alot harder to do things when one doesn't understand half the things said.
Is there something wrong with making people talk? As far as I know to scumhunt, people need to have said things, and the more things the more info to go on. Frankly, I don't fancy lynching people based on one thing they've said.
Fluff will never accomplish anything, questions will get info.

[Yimmy]

His posts seem townie to me.

[Yimmy]

Forwhomthejellyrolls, sorry I missed your question about what I learned.
My first question started like half the discussion in the game.
I learned what duppin meant
I learned what firebringer was trying to say.
The rest where ignored or avoided
Yes, 3 of those where so I could understand what people where saying
firebringer oh man 1 question out of 6 sentences is 100% questions also I'm good at math

[Yimmy]

Granted, he could be more active, but by the same line of reasoning, I probably ought to be, myself.

I'm V/LA. I literally can't be more active

[Yimmy]

I honestly didn't know you were in this game till you posted lol. How can someone with your name be under radar that much lol

So what I'm reading is you're barely even paying attention to the game.

[Yimmy]

I like Vedith as scum and Druppin as town.

Would you mind telling us why?

Yimmy - Seems to be focusing just on Firebringer rather than looking throughout the game.

woah tunnel vision that is the single scummiest thing i have ever seen

I like Vedith as scum and Druppin as town. Vedith I cannot get a feel for him taking a position anywhere.

VOTE: V

Also how did y'all not notice Hermit asked to lynch Doctor Vahlen who isn't even playing while scumreading him?

titus I hope you're not scum

I hope this post wasn't about attacking Vedith cause you knew Hermit would possibly jump ship

while also shining a bad light on Hermit, ASP's current target

Yeah you're scum. That's a preposterous stretch to say I am attacking someone when I was commenting on the general obliviousness of the game state.

So the general obliviousness of this game warrants a vote?

[Yimmy]

There was nothing about attacking hermit

[Yimmy]

4 really coming to verity defense.

Anyways, I am unsure of ceding alignment still. don't really want that lynch today, I think I said that already.

English, please

What's your gut telling you Fireman?

I would assume based on all the praise people have been giving you, you would be aware gut reads are crap?

4xty, Ika, and myself are all obvious town

I would fight against a Vampirate, Firebringer, Yimmy, and Titus lynch today

That leaves Duppin, ASP, and Vedith for me. I am thinking that ASP is probably the most likely to be town out of these, but I admit that I can't read shit on any of these people.

Ika is obvtown? How?

My biggest concern is that most players have been pretty civil and are using a high degree of critical analysis that is quite rare on MS games.

For that reason I could see us going through with a policy lynch rather than gambling on a scum read today. Ika and The Enigma are both slots that have overall ignored the game state. Alternatively, Firebringer has been posting a lot of fluff and seems to be content sheeping rather than scum hunting.

UNVOTE: ASP

Thoughts?

And after you're saying Ika is obvtown you're suggesting lynching it

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On the Fifth Solar Echelon, in the year 2035, top military advisors of the Adeptus Mechanus brought forward three battle plans for winning the war against the mutants, aliens, heretics, and rebels
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Spoiler: Top Secret Plan One

- Sheep Titus on Vedith for honor and glory! Hurrah!

Spoiler: Top Secret Plan Two

- Be the vanguard of democracy and lynch ASP to ensure unity and cohesion! Hurrah!

Spoiler: Top Secret Plan Three

- Play it safe and policy lynch Enigma for ultimate stategic and tactical efficiency! Hurrah!

Without looking at these top secret plans, chose one at random so we can end this goddamn day! I think it is in our best intrests if we all agree to collectively limit our options. I have a feeling this is heading towards a no lynch.

We all have plenty of scum reads to try and make an actual lynch

i'm not liking Vedith

Aww that's not nice. ;<

And just because I think other reasons are weak doesn't mean I don't have my own opinions or reasons for others. - I'm not actually against neither for a lynch of ASP. I think that there are better lynches out there by far.

My reasons for them will not matter until I am lynched. When I get to L1, I will give you the reasons and even welcome a hammer.

Welcome a hammer? That's not very towny behavior
Up for a constantine lynch
VOTE: St Constantine the Hermit

[Yimmy]

I agree I found it ridiculous when she sheeped my case

[Yimmy]

It was defenitely a case. A small, unorganized case, but a case nonetheless
Or at least 2 or 3 points on why I'm voting you.

[Yimmy]

So... What you're saying is you agreed with my case about ending a day soon and now you're saying let's resign and call it a day? that's some pretty blatant hypocrisy, IMO

[Yimmy]

@Yimmy

If you're up for a Hermit lynch, why would you find it ridiculous that Titus sheeped you? What's your read on Hermit then?

After my first game (offsite) where scum essentially won the game by using my constant radom sheeping with no new reasoning to add, I don't really like sheeping with no real reasoning to add.

[Yimmy]

http://www.interguild.org/members/forum ... hp?id=7456 Day 1
http://www.interguild.org/members/forum ... hp?id=7479 Day 2
I as town randomly sheeped everyone

[Yimmy]

Just because I made it a question doesn't mean I didn't think it was scummy.

[Yimmy]

And then 2 other things also

[Yimmy]

Why would you want to be killed?

[Yimmy]

I don't like that after one of your reads is wrong you just sorta stop believeing in the rest.

[Yimmy]

I don't feel need to argue why I am obviously town

Says the one who has at least 2 people willing to lynch him!
IDK, I just don't have much to say at all

[Yimmy]

What is a townbloc

[Yimmy]

Oh my goodness 9 days till deadline quick lynch someone!!!!!!!!!!!!
Literally the only case I'm seeing on me is "this one post bothers me but it might not actually be anything" and "yimmy's iso leaves me wanting more". I was V/LA quite a bi4... and then my activity dropped... I think I see the problem I guess
unless I'm just completely misunderstanding it

[Yimmy]

I won't lie I'm liking you and duppin as town because you've been doing alot through the game and a strong scum read on firebringe which I've pretty much already said Oh and also "omg we only have 9 DAYS we need to lynch now"

[Yimmy]

I'm not liking randomidgets not answering of the questions asked him

If I reveal whether I am a doctor or a jailkeeper, that kind of defeats the WIFOM element of whether I will be killed tonight or not.

I don't see how that would change much? As I see it, most sane doctors/jailkeepers would protect you and if you're a doctor you just made a bad decision

[Yimmy]

One sec, let me address all the cases made on me... Oh wait, there was none. nvm

[Yimmy]

Mine was because other options are not my preferred vote.
I'll swap to Firebringer if all agree though.

>.> Vedith, don't make me come after you.

So what I'm reading is you'll target Vedith if he moves from me?

And yes, 4xty is right. Fakeclaiming to be a powerrole is suicidal in this game. Scum would only claim vanilla town

The amount of WIFOM that hermit is pulling is mind blowing.
If I was scum I would flip a coin to decide if I was going to kill him lol.

And now it looks like you're saying you don't believe Hermit's claim (for a super bad reason btw the real PR would've counterclaimed by now)... And then you say that as scum you would kill him? What a beautiful contradiction
VOTE: Firebringer

[Yimmy]

1) cause omgus is ultra towny
I didn't say that. I said, "you said you didn't believe his claim in the exact same post you said you did"

[Yimmy]

Please point me to one post of his that seems towny.

[Yimmy]

Does anybody actually have a reason for voting me? Vedith is like the only one that even tried to give a reason

[Yimmy]

I'm sorry Mala, it's impossible to defend when the case is literally nonexistent
but yeah i am being awfully lurky in this game
I'm not scum, Vedith.

[Yimmy]

Firebringer: Scum yeah just look at my posts
Malakittens: Leaning town her posts have had some pretty decent scumhunting
duppin: Leaning town Has been doing some pretty decent scumhunting also
4nxiety: Null He seems pretty good, but a couple of his things I don't really like (such as "the replace out make this old news") and I can't help but feel he's trying to buddy me
Vedith: null Hasn't really done much in the way of content
Huntress: Null I don't like FWTJR posts that much, but he doesnt have much and just got replaced.
ika: Scum I literally see nothing that could make him town
Randomidget: scum lean And I thought FireBringer was fluffy...
St.Constantine the Hermit Slight scum lean I just had a thought about his claim, and that concerns me
TheWorst: Leaning town I don't really get why some people think he's scum
Vampirate: Leaning town Has also done some solid scumhunting

[Yimmy]

Ika and Firebringer both being scum probably isn't true (more sure on Ika than Firebringer). They play the game way differently, so I could see why you came to this conclusion.

At first I thought you meant them being a scumteam together, but the parentheses confuse me.
I am not giving them a free pass because that's there meta.

[Yimmy]

EBWOP Or, worded better, I am not going to give them a free pass because it's their meta

[Yimmy]

I'm assuming != means does not equal

[Yimmy]

The start of the game? There's 600 posts!

[Yimmy]

I don't know, refusing to do anything seems like a really big thing. not barely scum

[Yimmy]

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So, I left a wagon that lynched a townie, therefore I am scum? What?

The fact it lynched a townie meand nothing. In fact, putting it that way makes it seem more like you're scum because since you would've known he was town, it would make sense to leave the wagon, and so that you're not on a town wagon

[Yimmy]

You are a softclaimed PR, you haven't actually claimed, but keep saying you have claimed, but you actually haven't!

VOTE: vamp

Pretty sure that Vamp AND RM are scum together. the way those votes were spread out there's scum spread between the two wagons imo. That's why it was so difficult to get a lynch.

I wish the VC wasn't wiped out, but I remember Ika being off the wagons and can't remember who else. :\

This doesn't make sense. We weren't going to selfvote as town so our votes are irrelevant and 1 scum can't be spread across wagons.

I can't say I like the use of we...
Sorry, I've had a friend over for the past 2 days. I won't be able to use a computer till like 5 tomorrow

[Yimmy]

I was one of the players involved in the whole Titus/4nxi3ty debacle. From an outside perspective, obviously there would be a chance I would be scum. Why is it scummy to point out that yes, from another person's eyes i'm not guaranteed town.

What does this have do do with anything?

VOTE: Vampirate
Yeah, that post seemed prepared for day start Vamp.

I don't really see the problem with that?

lol I am still laughing at TheWorst vote on me.
Okay, like honestly.

That case is stupid. I am the reason that lynch didn't happen? Ummm no.
TheWorst you sound like someone who wanted Random lynched more than Vampirate and you EVEN said that you weren't liking that train.

You looking mighty hypocritical dude.

You seem to enjoy completely twisting words and exaggerating what people say way out of proportion!

@Anxiety

Ok, that's something. I'd like to see you explain how I'm scumbuddies with Randomidget then. Go through my ISO.

This is NOT a good defense.

Votes on me are bad, end of story.

Vote Vampirate. For a better future.
Lynch me tomorrow if I am wrong.

oh ok he said hes town better just jump off his wagon and leave
Also the "lynch me if im wrong"

You are a softclaimed PR, you haven't actually claimed, but keep saying you have claimed, but you actually haven't!

VOTE: vamp

Pretty sure that Vamp AND RM are scum together. the way those votes were spread out there's scum spread between the two wagons imo. That's why it was so difficult to get a lynch.

I wish the VC wasn't wiped out, but I remember Ika being off the wagons and can't remember who else. :\

This doesn't make sense. We weren't going to selfvote as town so our votes are irrelevant and 1 scum can't be spread across wagons.

A: You could've voted for the other wagon and B: there's 3 scum

@Duppin

Yes, someone please explain to me why I

need

to claim.

As long as I am not at L-1, I see no reason for me to out which of the two known power roles I am.

Let's see... You can't be CC'ed with a softclaim, And I don't think it would hurt town at all. A: You're doctor. In this case you're sorta useless, but there's still the wifom for the mafia on whether or not the jailkeeper will just jail you. B: You are Jailkeeper: You will (or at least should) be protected by the doc. I don;t see why you are so insistent on not claiming if you're not scum.

[Yimmy]

Yimmy is just horrible useless town, everyone ignore him.

If I'm so useless, why keep me alive? If you're just gonna insist I don't be acknowledged, why, oh why, are you not trying to lynch me?
yimmy is useless and shouldnt be in this game but we should leave him in that way we have a slot wasted! thatll help town!

[Yimmy]

I should do my research before spout out complete and utter idiocy

[Yimmy]

2 is ac5ually super dumb
oh i dont feel like scumhunting
what why are you guys getting after me for not scumhunting i dont feel like it

[Yimmy]

Isoing her again, I see with his reads lists (excluding the first, that was early on), he seemed to have a lot of scum reads, and 770 posts into the game still has a ton of nulls, which looks to me like keeping his options open, and in 755 he points out all the reasons claiming is bad, and then claims.
So yeah, a scum lean.
I do agree we should wait to get more discussion though

[Yimmy]

Super sorry for flaking
I was in 2 games at once and I was about to request replacement in one of them iirc but then i had already flaked this one