Open 608: Jungle Republic - A jungle is conquered(game over)

[Shiro]

Hey people ^_^

I will be reading the thread shortly

[Shiro]

ohhh god, its SHIRO!

It Is I

Spoiler:

Btw can someone give me a summary I am tp page 7 but I would appreciate it.

[Shiro]

Done (would have been done sooner but had some work plus another game had my attention yesterday)

Why is nobody pressuring not mafia? Is this behavior like normal for him? I think he is scum

Dv seems to be saying few stuff with walls (is it walls? It seems so from phone)the fact he lurked after early early game doesn't help. possibly scum

I dun like how shaddowez appeared a little after mentioned. Could be scum but not with Dv.

The rest town.

What your complain with my slot? I found him pretty town till he disappeared. I think I saw something from. You sayin that he changed his position about something but that isn't really scummy

[Shiro]

Can I say that I really want Not mafia dead? But I doubt I can get any support going because people will be. But he is just null lurking that not alignment showing and stuff

[Shiro]

I wouldn't say no. This stage a no vote is going to hinder us, everyone is scrabbling in different directions.

Let;s do this then

VOTE:Not Mafia

[Shiro]

Is anyone alive here ? Liven up people.

[Shiro]

Someone flip scum

You will

Obligatory sarcastic remark in hopes that something will sprout.

Seriosuly people what is with this death in the game ? I have seen mini with twice the pages this have in day 1.How do we hope to catch scum if we just wait for an epiphany to fall upon our heads.

[Shiro]

Dv seems to be saying few stuff with walls (is it walls? It seems so from phone)the fact he lurked after early early game doesn't help. possibly scum

^

I can add that he seems to want to pass the idea that he is doing stuff without really doing much and that is not really townie.

If NM came and talked I would consider him as second option but frankly NM vote on FB did the exact opposite than make me want to unvote him

[Shiro]

I don't have a read on NM and would rather lynch someone I think is very likely scum.

But I doubt I can get any support going because people will be. But he is just null lurking that not alignment showing and stuff

If you want to lose to that. Be my guest

It is day 4. He shouldn't be alive.

[Shiro]

Unofficial VC by yours Truly

DeasVail: (L-4)Shadow
Titus: (L-5)
shaddowez: (L-4)dv
hayatoBL: (L-5)

Not Mafia: (L-2)Shiro,Vedith,Firebringer

Vedith: (L-4)Titus
Wanderer-nl:(L-5)
Firebringer: (L-4)NM

[Shiro]

DV here is the deal

If shadow flips town we are taking NM at a possible

3 scum 3 town

^ This is bad for town and having NM there is making it even worse.

If he flips scum and is WW

Then we will be at 2 scum 4 town MYLO with NM no lycnhing him there means LYLO with NM

If he flips scum and is mafia

2 scum 3 town LYLO for town with NM unless WW hits the other mafia.

Not getting NM today is really risky and the chances he is scum are already high. You seriosuyl want ot take a PoE read at Lylo or Mylo ? Why ?

[Shiro]

@Shiro, isn't that analysis true for any player in the game?

Why not lynch Wanderer or Vedith?

I know you don't bite, so why NM as a policy today?

They can be read

NM is not readable also it not just policy I think he is scum trying to lurk his way to victory.

[Shiro]

I know you don't bite

Rawr~

[Shiro]

Player list:

Idiot Savant

Klick

St Constantine the Hermit

Titus

DeasVail

Jazzmyn

Antihero

shaddowez

hayatoBL

Shiro

Vedith

MarioManiac4

Not_Mafia

gameplay506

PimHel

Wanderer-nl

mykonian

Firebringer

Red are dead,Strikes are replaced.

[Shiro]

Do you think DV is mafia assuming you're right on NM?

Possible I do not like how he tries to protect him that much today.

[Shiro]

Why do you need to state intent to vote him? Why not just vote?

That is actually a good question titus. It not like ika is still alive.

[Shiro]

*yawns*

ZzZzZz

[Shiro]

VOTE: Titus

Because that's...How town would do it.

*claps and applaud*


What happened to Firebringer being scum /?

[Shiro]

Shiro you did make a mistake on one condition though.

If nm is ww, it would not be mylo as mafia have no kill in this setup I think.

I quickly checked the wiki for the jungle republic setup and it appears to be the case.

So wait what happens if the game is left with 2 town and 2 mafia ? A draw ?

[Shiro]

scrap the above question it appears it counts as mafia win

[Shiro]

VOTE: Titus

Last WW. Sheep me.

Ok

1st why so sure ?

2nd Why sheep you ?

[Shiro]

Damn talk about a hectic situation

[Shiro]

I am more inclined to believe yandere-chan tbh.

Her crump really seems legit and her reasoning is solid plus I have been scumreading shadowz.

Agh this is hard. Where is your input people?

Titus what happens If we try to lynch mafia today and sort you two tomorrow. Does that help at all or far too risky?

[Shiro]

VOTE:shadow

I believe Yandere-chan.

She is really town in comparison.

[Shiro]

Your avatar is yandere-chan. That her name xD

[Shiro]

Ether made it. Lol. It looked good.

Spoiler:

This is Yandere-chan. She would kill anyone that dares get near her senpai.

Spoiler:

This is how she shows that her love is stronger ^_^

[Shiro]

VOTE:No Lynch

Wolf was the first to take no action so the burden of taking one falls on them. That would be my guess. Voting anything as town other than no lynch is playing against your wincon

[Shiro]

@Shiro, Funny how you try to force a no lynch when I put the wagon suspicion on you. I am good at high pressure sales darling. But here, I will humor you and ask the right question for you...

Is there a happily ever after condition mod? If so, what triggers it and what are the consequences?

Second, there's zero harm in scumhunting while we wait to make sure that I don't double shoot town if I must move first darling.

You put the suspicion on me? I think I missed that. Saying that I am one of 3 possible mafia candidates really isn't much of a pressure. Only Dv wasn't on the wagon and there are two mafia left. I call that stating the obvious

Scumhunting is good but not now. The less info you have the more chances your mishap a kill(which town needs) If you manage to keep sides balanced it is over.

Let's be honest you don't care what you lynch tonight. You just want a good idea of who is who so you don't screw up your kill

[Shiro]

Here is my question to you Titus

I suggest town only no lynches
This will end the game in a draw.

So Titus will you accept a draw or try and hit scum at night in hopes that mafia will take you to town kingmaker scenario?

[Shiro]

Scum win if I shoot and hit town as half the living players would be mafia. We cannot no lynch.

I will risk it. High stake risks are the best kind if risks.

It the only way town will win. If mafia lynches you and enters lylo.

Lynching anything tonight will only lead to town lose.

[Shiro]

@Shiro, And how do you think that everyone won't lose in a draw?

Sure. Everyone loses in a draw. I am betting that you want win.

[Shiro]

You hit mafia we lynch you is an option you know.

Also ww both know yiu aren't hitting two mafia in row. You know that is a lose.

No lynch you hit maf no lynch you hit maf town wins(Only blind shooting will accomplish this)

Your above post talks as if you will plan the kills with towns best interest in mind.

@Shiro, And how do you think that everyone won't lose in a draw?

Sure. Everyone loses in a draw. I am betting that you want win.

I count it as a win I lived through a cop lynch and not providing my VCA or having to fake my checks dear.

Nah you wouldn't have gone through the effort and if you thought so you would have hammered no lynch and no killed again :p

[Shiro]

And why would mafia help lynch me in 4p lylo?

You no lynch. I shoot mafia. Mafia don't lynch me because it's autoloss. They make a case they fooled everyone, but I will out the last mafia if you move to lynch me.

Good night Shiro.

Why would town believe you?

VOTE: Shiro

So yeah...

Go ahead and give Titus the win then Fire.

[Shiro]

Or well a good chance at it.

I am town and you will have kingmaker decision tomorrow and town loses

And even If I was mafia Titus would shoot town and town loses

TOWN CAN'T WIN BY LYNCHING TODAY

. She knows how to shoot accurately. Especially with odds heavily in her favour

[Shiro]

Why won't you listen to me.

Why do you think Titus is so opposed to no lynch she knows she loses this way.

[Shiro]

Nah you are not.

[Shiro]

We no lynch
We force Titus to kill mafia
We hope mafia will side with town in 4p and lynch Titus
Win at lylo

And that's my plan...

[Shiro]

Great plan.

Why thank you ^_^

[Shiro]

If I can no kill without auto drawing, that's what I will do to force mandatory reflection on the town's part.

Then we wait for the mod to tell us : D

[Shiro]

I could just shoot you and rely on my ability to be 100% certain and strike fear into your partner because I am almost certainly shooting you. I would rather not though as hunting mafia is best done with a collective.

You could shoot me yes, which would lead to you losing.

Trust me it is in your best interest that I stay alive.

[Shiro]

Well, then you're going to have to scumhunt fast.

If you're town, at least one of FB Vedith must be scum. Pick one.

Vedith and DV is my best guess

I got scared to death when firebringer voted you after Vedith, Was making a post saying how he should swiftly remove his vote yada yada but he ninjad me in p.edit by unvoting.

I can't see Firebringers unvote coming from scum, it makes no sense. Him being scum with Vedith ? No sense nobody would follow them in that vote. \

Him with DV ? Again no sense why unvote ?

Him and me (as you seem to think) Why did he unvote ? No sense. He could have stayed there and waited for me to hammer.

Firebringer is town no matter which side you look.

I think Vedith tried to mislead Fire into thinking it is a draw if he lynches you now and hoped DV would hammer after fire vote.

[Shiro]

@Shiro, FB moved his vote after I accused you of being scum together trying to rush the game.

Not really no. He voted you after Vedith and unvoted a little after since he realised that it isn't a draw

You post about me and him being scum together came later.


Actualy I got my stuff mixed up.

Fire voted you in post 738
Vedith followed him

IF fire was scum why did he unvoted you in 742?

You accused us of being buddies at 754

If he was scum with me, we would have won period. If he was scum with DV they probably would have won as well sinec if he hadn't unvoted Vedith wouldn't have unvoted as well.

Do you think there is any chance Vedith and Fire are scum buddies ? I really really doubt it.

Fire is town. There is no going around that.

[Shiro]

Because I need you to kill scum at night without giving you an extra kill to kill town.

If we enter

Town
Maf
WW

Town lost.

P.edit
FB was voting you
Vedith was voting you

I would have hammered.

we enter night

town
town
mafia
mafia

Mafia majority next day equals win

[Shiro]

2 town plus 2 mafia and no me = mafia win.

I know

That what I am saying

If what you say is correct and me and FB are mafia together(which it isnt) then w would have won. This is me telling you that you are wrong about that.

I think mafia is VD and Vedith

[Shiro]

I was present I was litterally writting a post to tell them to unvote but when I went to post it FB had ninjad me in P.edit with his unvote. Look at the timestamps.

Cause them voting together and then one of them unvoting is dumb. I just no. I do not think that is a thing that could happen.

[Shiro]

I'm trying not to push the specific target beyond no DV because there has to be one scum in you three.

Do you agree that DV is Mafia Titus?

[Shiro]

I'm trying not to push the specific target beyond no DV because there has to be one scum in you three.

Do you agree that DV is Mafia Titus?

[Shiro]

I was there look at the stamps please.

If me and FB were scum we would have won. I can't comprehend how you don't see it. I posted right after his unvote.

Vedith thinks he is mislynching FB today and that you will kill me at night thinking I am scum which is why he is playing clueless.

[Shiro]

Unless someone can give a scenario where town actually win I'll vote anywhere that's not Titus today.

Bs you were voting Titus before you realised Dv wasn't there to hammer.

You are trying to appease to Titus that you will give her the win after you push the mislynch on fire.

[Shiro]

Titus will you lynch Vedith? You want scum dead and scum dead is the only thing happening now.

I had another plan as you know but it is over now. I was betting on you risking that mafia will prefer kingmaker town over lylo with town.

I was betting that they would prefer lylo.

[Shiro]

With a no lynch you might still lose if we force you to kill but they won't listen to me. >.>

Well excuse me for not knowing you well Titus.

I will keep the advice in mind for next time though so thanks <3

VOTE:Vedith

In the meantime I will lynch scum

[Shiro]

Or
No lynch > mafia > ww >mafia

[Shiro]

Shiro, mafia won't agree to the ww lynch if you're right BC they have no chance of mling town after lynching me.

They'd nl again. I would shoot you in that case.

Back when they were all more misinformed they might had anyway it is over now

[Shiro]

@Vedith, why no cross vote?

Because he knows an omgus after saying he mostly believes DV/FB will look horrible

[Shiro]

I'll post tonight.

Will be waiting for it

[Shiro]

so each of you tell me what you want to do. I'll be analysing your answer.

Everyone has laid out their thoughts so far in the thread you can just look.


If we lynch town today we lose because we enter night

mafia
mafia
ww
town

and no matter what happens mafia win

I am fairly certain Vedith is scum so I am voting there.

He think it is FB and is voting there which is dumb and I have explained a numerous times why. I don't care though cause he is scum either way and just wants town mislynch.

You are also scum soooo I am not sure what to say there

[Shiro]

When was the last VC btw ?

[Shiro]

No lynch:Titus the wolf
FB:Vedith the mafioli
Vedith:Shiro of the town
Nothing:Fire of the town, Dv the mafioli

[Shiro]

Made an unofficial VC

[Shiro]

[Shiro]

Titus after this game is over we should all nomiate someone for best replacement scummy

Spoiler:

St.Constantine the hermit

Player list:
Idiot Savant
Klick St Constantine the Hermit
DeasVail
Jazzmyn Antihero
shaddowez
hayatoBL
Vedith
MarioManiac4 Not_Mafia
gameplay506 PimHel
Wanderer-nl
mykonian
Firebringer

I mean let us be honest. He is doing an amazing job for that slot.

[Shiro]

Nah let's wait for DV to post his "anylising" of our reactions

xD

[Shiro]

HOW YOU DOING GUYS!?!?!?!?!

And Shiro.
And Titus.

Why the exclusion ?

@Titus Congratulations

[Shiro]

HOW YOU DOING GUYS!?!?!?!?!

And Shiro.
And Titus.

Why the exclusion ?

@Titus Congratulations

Umm I don't know if you are a guy or girl tbh Shiro lol.

A mystery shrouded in darkness xD Unless you want to know instead of making your own assumption Then ask

[Shiro]

This has turned into such an adventurous mind game.

[Shiro]

Tomorrow, I will be a lot less helpful.

But we like you being helpful ;~;

*Puppy eyes*

[Shiro]

I am ok with early shooting as well. Heck I am ok with you doing it publically and moving to day phase immidiatly

[Shiro]

Just kill FB, obvious scum!
Then you only have a 50/50 choice

If she missed the shot it is over.

Mafia will enter day with majority, but you are scum and that is precisly what you wants >.>

[Shiro]

Yeah there you go Titus, you have both scum.
Shiro has been defending FB so hard all day

I have been defending him because he is town.

I also explained how it is impossible to be scum with FB but of course you don't look at the evidence.

Next time actually think before saying stuff alright ?

[Shiro]

It's not impossible though. XD

WE
WOULD
HAVE
WON

END OF THE STORY

[Shiro]

YOU WERE VOTING FOR TITUS
FIREBRINGER WAS VOTING FOR TITUS. HE UNVOTED AND I POSTED RIGHT AFTER HIM

WHY DID HE FUCKING UYNVOTE???HUH? ANSWER ME THIS ? IF WE WERE SCUM TOGETHER HE HAD NO REASON TO UNVOTE I WOULD HAVE HAMMERED TITUS AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER.

PERIOD END OF STORY.

You are scum and you are trying ot get FB killed but this is the weakest reason you can bloody find >.>

[Shiro]

It is you who voted after FB and hoped DV will come and hammer titus so you could win. It was you who hoped Titus would vote FB till the very end so VD would come and hmmaer so you could win

AND IT IS YOU

Who is trying to get her to kill FB so you can win.

I have nothing more to add

[Shiro]

Shiro, why can't you be frustrated because FB fucked up?

He unvoted only a few minutes after his vote. Veduth only unvoted afterwards when he realised there was no chance your lynch was happening after FB snapped out of it.

The unvote from FB makes no sense from mafia prespective that is why.

Titus said she doesn't want to risk shooting DV. I had said so since earlier

[Shiro]

The only person I want to hear from is DV

Yea if he ever shows up to do anything that is.

[Shiro]

@Vedith, I can't kill with 4 alive and won't do it. I am forcing a lynch tomorrow.

But we can just no lynch and make the day end naturally.
Or all vote you off. As town we need to play to our win condition as much as possible and helping you lynch tomorrow is not that,

If titus shoots mafia

mafia and town has to lynch her in order to enter lylo. There is no other way for each side to win. Titus lost by no lynching. I said that ages ago. I dunno why she had a change of heart.

[Shiro]

Titus you played a brilliant a game.

I am so relieved I didn't have to go to lylo

[Shiro]

@Shiro, If tomorrow happened, it would have been less fun for all as someone has to game throw.

Yea, I agree on that

[Shiro]

Did you think I was seer or WW?

WW but not because of you. You actually made me doubt that read and I hoped that it would be shadowez but I was expecting you to be ww cause Hermits replace in then never talk screamed person that wanted to replace in a town slot, saw it wasn't and never particiapted.

I hoped it was shadow the ww tbh because I was scared of dealing with you ww XD

[Shiro]

@Anti, the mod still hasn't given me access to scumchat...

I got my scumchat privilages instantly.

[Shiro]

Shiro you had me so convinced that you were town by that whoel we were on at same time argument

I guess you were hitting vote when the preview showed I unvoted?

Yes. I pressed sumbit

Preview of some stuff vedit said

I press again

preview of you

I press again

Preview of your unvote.