Open 613: Nightless Vengeful Mayhem!

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VOTE: ika

4 president

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VOTE: RadiantCowbells

I want vig shot.

gogogogo

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I volunteer as tribute!

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Wow ohnnny farrar be quiet you colossal meanypants poopyhead.

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VOTE: Taly

This is scum.

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In midterms will make major post before thursday.

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Pretty sure Itlepip is town.

I still like Taly lynch more than anything else but I wouldn't mind doing Kop at all.

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Just let me slide until I get some time and I'll solve this game alone.

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we're not fucking lynching Chaos.

Jester, you're just going to let me lurking slide with an mmk fair enough? why did you want my thoughts?

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Oh hey, does anyone have, say, 2 people that everyone thinks is town?

And can I get that in an order with like, one preference who is really likely to hurt scum if they live today?

thanks!

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Wait, can scum take both shots in one day?

mod pls

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if it's nightless, what happens if we miss deadline?

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I'm pretty sure Pip is town.

Taly/Kop/Jester are the ones I'm interested in atm.

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So what, you're going to trust the people who would hypothetically mislynch you whose alignments you don't know over your own judgement which you know is coming from town?

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VOTE: Kop

if you're town I don't want you alive.

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But I fucking hate the way Jester super transparently herded my vote in this direction.

VOTE: Jester

[RadiantCowbells]

I think that you're useless at best and scum at worst BUT the way Jester started a wagon on Kop after commenting on the difficulty of forming a wagon when there was already so much support for a Taly wagon makes me suspect that they're scum together and he wanted to steer the lynch away from his partner.

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I wasn't town in your last game, and town didn't win in it so I'm not going to put too much stock in what that town did.

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Also, I literally have no fucking clue what you mean.

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My point is that his attitude towards this game pisses me off enough to make me want to vote him over Jester.

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well OK then.

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I'm not touching Pip.

I really want Jester but I could do Taly. I'd hammer Kop if that was the only possibility. Of the remaining players, I'm positive Silverwolf is town and pretty sure Chaos is town.

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I note that Makara is null but a really bad null, he's definitely extremely guarded and I think there's a really good chance he's scum.

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We don't have much time so I'd like to get this done sooner rather than later.

VOTE: Jester

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The Kop kill was awful.

And yeah, SW kept her RVS vote on Kop but it wasn't an RVS vote because she clearly indicated that she was voting him because he lurks as scum.

Which is shitty logic but is a totally different situation from yours.

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VOTE: Makara

I want this.

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Why me = fry me.

I hate the way Taly jumped on the wagon but Makara's reaction was so unbelievably scummy that I'm sticking it out.

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Alright, I don't like the people jumping on the Makara wagon.

Let's get back on VOTE: Taly

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If Saphira was null, why was she mentioned and not RC or Jester?

'cause there's a strong Saphira wagon going and Taly wants to get a piece of it.

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That replace out was absolutely awful.

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Really, Chaos?

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As long as scum have an extra shot can everyone stop posting fucking read lists because you're making it so easy for mafia to decide on shots.

Push scum, keep your townreads to yourself.

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Alright I'm absolutely done with you.

VOTE: ChaosOmega

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My only agendas are to lynch Taly and to lynch idiots.

There's no votes currently on Taly so I'll settle for the latter.

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Except for Makara's vote but I'm more inclined to get rid of Chaos at this point in time.

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Makara isn't voting me or posting reads lists.

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I mean if you can't connect the dots then I'm not sure if I know words small enough to explain it to you.

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no habla ingles

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btw, I strongly townread ChaosOmega if scum were interested in some advice on who they should shoot.

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Would be a real tragedy if we missed our lynch today.

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i can do tally or saph

pedit: not reallymcuh other then saph kinda jsut continue theroy talk with me and not really moving the game state foward, i mean SW kinda laready gave msot of it but ti rehash

Saph has:
engaged in throy tlak with me way past its due time (i continued to see if she would and she while i contiuned elsewhere)
does not try to move the town foward and acts more passive
jsut ssems "go with the flow" and hids in the background

Ika says he's a supporter of the Taly lynch but only discusses lynching Saphira. No mention of me.

Makara isn't voting me or

posting reads lists.

that goes against what you said earlier here

As long as scum have an extra shot

can everyone stop posting fucking read lists

because you're making it so easy for mafia to decide on shots.

Push scum, keep your townreads to yourself.

soooooo.......

whats the deal?

[vode]RC[/vote]

lets do this

im good, your 2 stances contradict cus you say for ppl not to do it thenyou are complaing someone sint doing it

VOTE: RC

Then votes me off of a totally fucking forced misinterpretation of my quotes, after I was just voting Taly who he expressed support of lynching

give me one reason why he should be tow read?

i eman he has hardly done anyhting that warrenta town read IMO

backtracks and says that "i haven't done anything that warrants a town read' and even says IMO.

so fucking fake.

I note that Taly immediately jumped onto my wagon as well. So pretty sure Ika just flying in with the hardest chainsaw defense of Taly.

This is not only scum but it's so fucking bad scum that I feel physically nauseous.

VOTE: Ika

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Well, if I was scum that wouldn't apply to me because I'd be doing it intentionally as a tactical maneuver, so you're talking to me as if I'm town while voting me.

smooth.

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thats under the assuption you are town right now.

Telling me that I'm like the others who like to attack the shiny object heavily implies that I'm town, so I'm just sheeping your read here.

dont forget i have played woth you inthe past and seen your games

What motivation does a town player to have this to say to a scumread. You're justifying your scumread on me to... me? How does this make sense?

however i dont think you are. if you are then theres the adivce for ya

Then why is everything that you say to me only applicable if I'm town?

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And why are you more worried about getting someone who is supposedly scum to unvote you than you are about pushing others to lynch the person who is supposedly scum?

Like, this shit isn't town. I'm point blank not changing my vote.

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...which again wouldn't make any sense if I was scum, because no one blacklists scum players for putting words in their mouth.

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I mean if you read everything he's saying at no point does he indicate that he's scumreading me, claim a scumread on me, or say that I'm doing anything scummy.

Instead, he's saying that

dont forget i have played woth you inthe past and seen your games

without explaining how that's relevant. Like good for you? If I was scum what would that mean to me, exactly.

Or

your funny rc, you jsut like others who like to attack to the shiny object

is essentially declaring himself lynchbait without at all explaining how it reflects on my alignment, ie am I being opportunistic? doesn't even come up.

give me one reason why he should be tow read? i eman he has hardly done anyhting that warrenta town read IMO

is the closest he gets to explaining why he's scum, and he doesn't even call me scum he just says there's no reason I should be townread.

like, no thanks. bye scum. taly's going next btw.

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I think it's especially hilarious that he jumped on me because the thought I'd be an easy lynch to protect Taly then got mad at me for pushing him because apparently he's an easy lynch.

Huge projection followed by outside of game accusations = top caliber of scum play, both in terms of technical skill and the spirit of the game. You go boy!

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Itlepip is so good he managed to vote scum not once, but TWICE.

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VOTE: Ika

bite me

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just fyi, when I get shot you're still lynching Ika then Taly.

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1) i never said that
2) it again assumes that I'm town while he's voting me.

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Like, I don't even understand what you're saying.

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I never said that,

ever.

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link the game.

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I would never say anything like that.

That's further only applicable to this game if I'm town.

Ika is voting me while repeatedly saying things to me that are only relevant if I'm town.

Lynch him, now.

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laughing at me?

but I'm scum right, so you'd be laughing at me for my incredibly adept scum play?

odd.

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No, see that's not how it works.

"when you flip town" is only a pertinent development assuming that I'm town. If I were scum here, I'd already know your alignment and thus your flip would mean absolutely nothing to me.

Further, if you ended up flipping period that means my push for a lynch on you was a success, so if I was scum pushing a mislynch that would make my play extremely good and not worth laughing at.

You're slipping all over the place and it's pathetic.

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the fuck is this shit

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Alright so

VOTE: Blade Dancer

Ika's freakout seems genuine as much as I resent leaving him alive when he's clearly not even misreading me, he's just being obnoxious and dumb.

I don't buy Titus's exaggerated defence of him though.

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I still wanna lynch Taly too.

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VOTE: unvote

the fuck are these flashwagons?

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RC/Taly have this whole vote anyone else still scumread each other thing going on. Strong buddies indicator.

that makes complete sense given that I spent nearly this entire day voting him and getting nothing done with it.

if he's scum, you'd be willing to vote him, right?

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take it.

VOTE: Taly

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I'll be right over to lynch Titus, don't you worry about that.

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That's an incredible amount of complexity and what-ifs to justify a vote on me.

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At this point I'm pretty positive that Taly is scum, pretty positive that Titus is scum, and the last scum is either Itlepip or Superstar.

Everyone else is town.

Itlepip's last was awful and makes me lean towards him being the last scum.

I will lynch Taly or Titus, preferably Taly because him flipping scum basically guarantees Titus scum whereas the reverse is not necessarily true.

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Chaos is the only other person who might be scum but I really don't think he is.

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I'm wondering if you buy Blade's Taly RC world.

weak as fuck, Pip.

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lol fuck off

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The minutes will seem like years until I townread you again

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Ika is voting 2 people and Taly is voting the wrong person, fyi.

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Holy fuck Itle can you waffle on your read on me harder?

Like literally in one page you went from me being scum to town and you wouldn't push me to not moving past scumlean.

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Like, Itle isn't even pretending to be town so that's a pretty obvious scum bad. #517 is also not something a town would say; she's more focused on arguing about things on an intellectual level than actually sorting Itle.

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So can we like lynch someone?

Preferably Taly or Itle?

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I mean to be fair if we never lynch we can't lose this game.

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Itlepip and Taly's vote switches here weird me out. I'm not switching to Vedith here.

You and RC are a very reasonable scum group in my opinion. You didn't interact with him much the first day and the second day started scumreading him only when you had a substancial wagon.

And yet you're jumping at every possible straw to avoid jumping on Taly. If you thought he was my scumpartner, you'd be trying to lynch one of the two of us.

Instead, you're off stalling and pushing us as a team but only actually support a vote on me. So, like, no. I almost feel bad for your scumteam because of how obvious you are.

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Itlepip and Taly's vote switches here weird me out. I'm not switching to Vedith here.

You and RC are a very reasonable scum group in my opinion. You didn't interact with him much the first day and the second day started scumreading him only when you had a substancial wagon.

And yet you're jumping at every possible straw to avoid jumping on Taly. If you thought he was my scumpartner, you'd be trying to lynch one of the two of us.

Instead, you're off stalling and pushing us as a team but only actually support a vote on me. So, like, no. I almost feel bad for your scumteam because of how obvious you are.

When did I ever say I don't support a vote on Taly. The thing I don't support is a lynch on Taly right now, because my vote would put him at L-1 and I am slightly worried about a scum hammering.

like WTF is this.

How are we not lynching these two yet.

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I'm going to prod dodge ad infinitum so I never lose this game.

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I mean it's possible that slip was a planned fake but that plus some of the vote switches and I don't really feel Vedith for scum at all anymore.

I'm guessing the last scum is like Superstar or something.

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I can confirm that I have no serious plans of absenteeing from the game and prod dodging to stall the game ad infinitum to prevent me from losing.

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Nah, that slip seems extremely legit and Vedith seems same as he ever was.

We lynching Taly.

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There are MUCH BETTER LYNCHES then Taly.

Note that Aphix doesn't say that Taly isn't scum.

I haven't seen anything that anyone has stated that indicates taly is scum.

Note that Aphix doesn't say that Taly isn't scum.

Just a bunch of people content to let others getting away with a horrible scum game.

No fucking clue what this is supposed to mean.

Called it on Superstar, btw.

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You are attempting to stand between me and lynching scum.

you go next.

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I don't have to. I just have to get one more vote.

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This is fucking cancer.

I'll vote Pip but there's no reason we should let scum strongarm us off Taly.

VOTE: Taly

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If Taly was town, why the fuck would scum have bothered with that shit?

no.

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Hi can I speak to champ

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THAT QUESTION WILL BE ANSWERED THIS SUNDAY NIGHT AS JOHN CENA TAKES ON SIX MEN IN A STEEL CAGE CHUTES AND LADDERS MATCH

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Seriously tho if you think that I'm pushing a mislynch just let me push a mislynch and blame me for the loss but fuckign vote Taly

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VOTE: Taly

Not lynching anything else today.

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If this ends up being town I am going to literally kill someone.

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Yes, it's pretty clear that scum had decided to bus Taly or else I doubt the lynch would have happened.

I think we're looking at Aphix and Itlepip scum.

I'll go ahead and VOTE: Itlepip

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Ika, Silverwolf, and Vedith are town.

Itlepip I'm sure is scum and the last scum could be anywhere in the remaining pool, most likely Aphix.

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Yeah, so it's basically Aphix or Saphira and I'm pretty sure it's not Saphira so yeah.

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So, we're probably lynching Aphix next but after Itlepip I want to reread.

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Me being stubborn is the only reason we got Taly so stfu.

Also, me being blatantly stubborn makes you doubt your townread? Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense.

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Bitch please there's no way a wagon would have gotten going on squat without my support.

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VOTE: aphix

Watch how much support your Saphira wagon gets.

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Vedith, stop trying to convince aphix that he's scum and just vote him.

Silver, I don't need to explain to you why someone who is obviously town is town, you need to stop voting obvious town and help me lynch scum

Ika, you need to fucking unvote yesterday.

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Listen up.

I am not changing my vote under any condition.

That means that if Vedith was scum, which the speed that his wagon developed proves otherwise, it will be literally impossible for you to lynch him. Town can only get 3 votes down.

So you're at best wasting your time and at worst abetting a scum lynch.

We lynch Aphix or we don't lynch at all, unless we maybe want to flashwagon Saphira.

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I'm going to wait for a replacement, thanks.

Contrary to Aphix's assertions I'm not positive that Saphira is the last scum slot because I was townreading her for a while.

I'm pretty damn sure it's not vedith so that leaves Ika, Wolf, Saph.

I want to reread Ika and Wolf and I want to see what our replacement does. I ask you guys to unvote at least till we get a replacement.

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Also, everyone who is scumreading Vedith. Who is his partner?

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OKay. So vedith isn't trying to convince anyone that I'm scum. He's not trying to fight his wagon at all. In fact wasn't voting until pressured because he doesn't want to be seen jumping on a town lynch too early. The fact that he thinks I'll last more then three lynches indicates to me that one, we'd have to have lynched scum before then.

Also RC, if you are so sold on me being scum, why try and start a second "flash" wagon on someone. You are positive Vedith of conf town despite horrible scummy play? You are SO sold on me being scum despite the fact that I helped lynch my scum partner? What for town points? I bet if I stuck to hard defending Taly I couldn't have been in a worse place in your eyes anyways. The fact that you can't see logic or reason indicates you are either stupid or really you are just scum. I'm at the point of just wanting to policy lynch you for being a moron and don't give a fuck about your alignment or winning the game anymore.

None of that makes him scum. It's a far more likely explanation that he's Vedith being fucking Vedith and not caring about the game.

I'm not positive of anyone being scum. I'm scumreading you to the point that you're my favourite lynch but I'll gladly hit other big scumreads.

The point of this isn't about lynching you this is about NOT LYNCHING VEDITH, who I'm fucking positive is town here.

If you're town, you need to realize that this is exactly how Vedith town plays and there's a reason he gets mislynched in every single game. I looked back at Titus's play which I didn't like at the time but now I find it really doesn't mesh with how I'd expect scum!Titus to deal with me, which in previous games has had her been extremely wary of engaging in discourse with me at all. Even if you still think that Vedith is scum then you can at least wait for the replacement go in so that we can sort that slot.

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[quote="In post 660, ika"][/quote]

You know this is fucking funny because that'd probably help town a ton in winning the games if you started paying attention to my reads after I was confirmed town.

I fucked up on Itle but that was mostly a PoE read and I'm peeling those back. No vedith lynch pls.

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And no, I would gladly take a random shot over someone that I'm pretty damn sure is town.

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Like Vedith I really don't wanna fucking lose this but I'm not going to keep you alive if you won't help me at all.

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You know what fuck it this game has stalled out long enough.

If this ends up actually being scum I'm going to be hella salty.

VOTE: Vedith

[RadiantCowbells]

Well, that was a surprise to no one.

If Saph is town it's impossible lynch scum atm so I'm going to hold back until that slot gets replaced.

Sorry about that Keyblade.

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here me not voting

your point being what?

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Actually considering that Saphira is the one absentee that's somewhat relevant.

I'm going to refrain from doing anything until we get a replacement but unless there's a quickhammer I'm lynching Aphix.

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Ika, now that you've seen Vedith is town where are you at?

Silver, same question.

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I'm here and not voting.

JSYK

ok?

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We're all here, anyone want to get closer to a win or are we just going to all declare our presence in this game and continue not doing anything.

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Whatevs.

VOTE: Saphira

I just want this over.

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So, I'm guessing you're scum then by that naked vote.

gg I guess.

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Yeah, I mean that sorta pisses me off but honestly with Ika absolutely refusing to reason with me, Saphira afk and Vedith absentee I was just about done with this game.

inb4 Ika blames me even though he threatened to policy vote me over the vedith thing.

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I decided to go in my own world

Dude I fucking tried to reason with you tried everything to get you to unvote Vedith who I've played over 100 different mafia games and spent years playing face to face mafia with and have never once misread.

You were completely obstinate and I couldn't change the vote, and further Aphix was pretty obviously scum for like literally the entire game.

Kudos to SW for good scum play though, I never would have pinned her.

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Like, I'm Professor Vedith for a reason.

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You weren't aware? I mean I thought it was common knowledge that Vedith is my older brother.

He's really really easy to read.

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Dude it even came out in this game.

yeah and seriously if you think I'm misreading my own brother who I've played mafia with for 15 years you're off your rocker dude, seriously

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Anyway, Vedith's not my brother and I don't especially know how to read him, though I can often feel confident that I know he's town in games.

Just messing around with everyone.

Great game, great playing with everyone!

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Yeah, I guess.

You called both myself and Silver at different points in the game but never ended up pushing on or voting either of us.

I figured Taly was getting lynched at some point so we might as well lead it ourselves to get maximum towncred from it.

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You and RC kept saying each other was scum, yet voted elsewhere. It's a classic Titus scum indicator.

To be fair, for my part I was voting him most of the game.