Open 620: Duck Duck Goose Game Over, Mafia Victory

[droog]

egg id still vote newbie

[droog]

me too
im leaning newbie rn
but there are some things is trows iso
that i need to quote before anyone votes

[droog]

i dont understand the question

[droog]

you tried to cram an argument into it

[droog]

what a needless argument
canvassing between multiple scumreads
is good play

i notice that while im arguing
for both you and newbie
you are arguing for both me and egg

[droog]

or dont tell me that youre willing
to be persuaded that im not scum

[droog]

If you're right, it won't do a thing

i dont think you understand how to play mafia

[droog]

i am not saying "tomorrow i want to lynch x"
i am forming my scumreads

knowing who everyone scumreads
is always valuable to town
youre dissembling

[droog]

I'd be willing to vote Karnage, but I think droog has more of a chance to flip scum.

why

[droog]

interesting
i dont have a strong read on karnage
i played scum shaddowez once before
this bold play doest remind me of that

[droog]

Reasons?

i went through his iso
and found some interesting contradictions
this is something i still want to talk about
i just dont feel like making the effort atm
maybe tonight

[droog]

im tired from a day in the hospital
quit your argumentative nonsense

[droog]

good game all
well played egg
thanks for hosting marcrell

[droog]

scum played well
evidenced by how no one
had the complete scumteam at the end

lylo was just a formality

dont think id play this setup again
maybe it was just my circumstance
but its a lot of work
and its pretty close to mountainous
scum are right to not kill until theyre close

[droog]

not the way she argued me

[droog]

i could see town arguments

but she snipeed at me and spip
(who was my strongest townread)
without offering an alternative wagon

she spent an entire day saying the loweell wagon
was scummmy
and i had to push her to explain who was scum on it
and her scumreads came out to be not much

i dont think she played poorly
but id lynch it again
i think it was a misfired communication

short of other townies pushing in other ways
theres not much to have done

[droog]

Lowell: Scorpious, Something Pip, Droog, Karnage, shaddowez, Newbie, RadiantalyFarrar3Lynched

mostly town
the scum was newbie
(not managing to lynch her is another topic)

that part of math's argument
that this was a scum wagon
was crucial

and i felt strongly that the drivers werent scum

[droog]

I didn't get to explore my reads at all because you kept pushing on people that I knew were town.

this happened to almost all town
the entire game
it speaks to town disfunction or scum excellence

[droog]

I didn't get to explore my reads at all because you kept pushing on people that I knew were town.

'i wasnt a better player and thats your fault'

[droog]

did we get a scum qt?
id like to see how they saw it
i think they played pretty well

[droog]

As for Droog, I'll never play with him again. I can say in all honesty that he is the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot. No one else even comes close. If anyone else played town even a bit like him then they would get insta-lynched. It means that there is no way to determine Droog's alignment. Nor is he helpful in finding out who is scum even when he is town.

you say that
but your reads were just as bad
youre really just being rude

[droog]

especially when other players
had no problems getting reads on me

[droog]

(i.e. Droog's entire play such as

copying and pasting irrelevant responses

,

not making a cas

e,

not being able to explain your reads

or why you stated something, or

being caught out in a

mistake or

lie

)

[droog]

i am not calling this my best game
not by far
i think i have extenuating circumstance
but that doestn really matter to anyone

but dont pretend that your frustration
at a poor game
is somehow justly directed at disliking us personally

[droog]

i really have nothing else to say
nothing against any of you personally
scum played a good game

thanks to marcrell for hosting

[droog]

You're blaming the people who spoke up against town's horrible dogmatic tunneling on people who spoke up against the town circlejerk for having not swayed the town circlejerk into voting scum instead.

That's not how the game works.

im not blaming anyone
i know i played a bad game
but i dont see you making a case that you played a great game

[droog]

If you guys managed to lynch scum after I was gone you'd have a case.

you didn't.

so I think that vindicates everything that both of us were saying.

this isn't a situation where it's justified for you to go and blame us

when we were both victims

of the blind tunneling of half of the town.

[droog]

i spent half of mathilda's lynch
trying to tease reads from her
pushing for her analysis of the loweell wagon

not a victim

[droog]

I wasn't able to play a great game because town was groupthinking onto terrible wagons.

right
its our fault you didnt play well

[droog]

This is a problem i am aware of and have no idea how to fix it.

i think part of this is just the shape of your posts
i said some not nice things about it in game
but in general it semes like your posts

become longer than necessary
they're not walls in the usual sense
but they have a few quotes each with a paragraph or two
after each one

that gives them a chunky sense
that is kind of easy to glaze ones eyes over

[droog]

multipost might help
thats what everyone is used to here

by 'walls in the usual sense'
i mean big mastin-style wallposts
which youre not doing

but there's something about them that's still too large
i wouldnt use more than 2 quotes in most posts
links might help

[droog]

@droog:
thanks '

i'll look up mastin.

And i'll consider the multiposts
I really dislike them though.
As here: a post per person addressed, there i can see the benefit of.
But arbitrary padding the post-count *shudder*, feels like 'trying to appear more active'

i'll try to pull the 'replace with links'-approach even further, but they didn't seem to do much this game

this is already a lot easier to read
"@droog" is better than quoting what i said
i dont really have specific things beyond that
but readability really helps

you really dont need mastin-style walls often
once-twice a game is the limit