Open 632 - Jungle Republic (Game Over)

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HELLO EVERYONE

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I'm scumreading the entire shotty wagon

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Here is what I think so far.
the wagon on Knightmare gained momentum way too fast for my liking, I believe it is POSSIBLE (not entirely likely, just plausible) that most of the people on said wagon were either mafia or ww trying to get an easy lynch so they can get killing. I especially dislike drmyshottyizsik's L-1 vote, had a mafia/ww seen it, they might have just hammered. Seems a bit too opportunistic/eager to get a claim that can be either countered (to reveal the seer) or to have someone claim VT which would make them an easy target for the "it is too hard to prove" crowd, as I have seen in previous games where I myself claimed VT.

VOTE: drmyshottyizsik

This post stucks, kelbris knows more than to trot out the standard, omg L-1 bad quickhammers rah rah rah

Almost50 is trying way too hard, his town games don't have nearly that density of smilies and his votes so far have all been pretty weak

Don't like the jump Kop makes from 70 to 75, goes from voting shotty saying he was seriously trying to get a role claim, which wasn't a reasonable expectation to understanding that there was no real risk of a quickhammer

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VOTE: Almost50

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HELLO

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It's the same Kain STOLE IT, so I have STOLE the way he SPEAKS as REVENGE

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It's time for kelbris and almost50 to die

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Why do you care so much KT?

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Almost, do you have a town/scum lean on KainTepes or what?

KT is impossible to get a read on. He literally never says anything that counts. He should be a policy lynch in all games.

Well he seems pretty fixated on your read fo him, does that not tell you anything?

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What do you mean?

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Let's just lynch Almost already.

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People seem to not realise I replaced Knightmare

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Almost50: Not enough votes
Kelbris: Not enough votes
Everyone else: too many votes

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Why and how is kelbris town?

VOTE: KOP

almost 50 cannot be scum in all of those games... i dont see our LOGIC

See? This IS what I would want you to do, KT. Give a REASON for suspecting/voting someone. This is MUCH better.

So you wanted him to engage in baseless gambler's fallacy?

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Let's lynch Almost50 by the end of the page

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Pordge

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Like an Almost50 lynch?

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If you think reasoning is important then tell us why you're town reading kelbris?

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Okay but kelbris is scum

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false

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Join us on Almost50

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Almost positively town is the 4th tier in your reads?

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^ Worst vote I've seen in a long time

Almost/Shotty/Kelbris/?/?

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We know Kelbris isn't a PR now so you can tell us your town case now Almost

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VOTE: Kelbris

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VOTE: grapes

kelbris IS/WAS town

to vote you or shotty
that's the question.
for now i'll

VOTE: drmyshottyiszik

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VOTE: Almost50

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Yep, we're both VTs

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shotty why are you not voting?

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VOTE: Shotty

Starting to feel like Almost believes what he's saying

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I AM KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mafia doesn't have a kill, just wolves

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shotty is probaby a wolf

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No wolves have a kill, mafia doesn't

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I think we should lynch shotty so he can spend time with his child

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Pretty sure drshottyizsik is just a random string of characters

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And he sometimes posts in binary

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VOTE: Shotty

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^ Fake

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VOTE: MarioManiac4

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VOTE: pasta

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VOTE: Kop

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VOTE: alone

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Mario is the opposite scum faction to pasta

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Thinking Mario and Snarky

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Almost, gun to your head, who is the scum team?

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Mario's alone vote just felt really opportunistic, it looks like Snarky is the consensus

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I could see Mario and Almost though, but I'm not sure if I'm just letting paranoia take hold plus I'd feel dirty if Almost won without being lynched as scum after havig a confident scum read on him early on and some of his posting

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Mario's shotty push also felt like, "let me just pick an easy target and slip in to the background"

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Who's scum?

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Mario's alone vote just felt really opportunistic, it looks like Snarky is the consensus

Snarky is the consensus? what kind of reasoning is that?
You can't deny the entrance was scummy. I, as town, saw alone doing something scummy and voted him. Give me a reason why you don't think that was the case.
Shotty was also scummy zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I never said alone wasn't scummy, I never said shotty wasn't scummy, these are not counterarguments

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I see nothing town in Mario's ISO

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Mario's alone vote just felt really opportunistic, it looks like Snarky is the consensus

Snarky is the consensus? what kind of reasoning is that?
You can't deny the entrance was scummy. I, as town, saw alone doing something scummy and voted him. Give me a reason why you don't think that was the case.
Shotty was also scummy zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I never said alone wasn't scummy, I never said shotty wasn't scummy, these are not counterarguments

yes they are.
because they were scummy, I THOUGHT THEY WERE SCUM.
GET IT?

You seem to be pushing your read on me a lot more than your random read on Snarky.
Is snarky your partner?

pedit: dammmmmmmnnnnnnnn not_mafia, back at it again with the lylo mislynch tunnel!

This is just substituting arrogance for a lack of an actual argument, I called your pushes opportunistic and you wanting to stay in the background. Saying they're scummy is irrelevant, this would be a terrible counter in singleball, but especially in multiball, which you acknowledged yourself. The "Is Snarky your partner" is just pure desperation.

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And this is a MYLO mislynch tunnel

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Choo choo

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Mario's alone vote just felt really opportunistic, it looks like Snarky is the consensus

Snarky is the consensus? what kind of reasoning is that?
You can't deny the entrance was scummy. I, as town, saw alone doing something scummy and voted him. Give me a reason why you don't think that was the case.
Shotty was also scummy zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I never said alone wasn't scummy, I never said shotty wasn't scummy, these are not counterarguments

yes they are.
because they were scummy, I THOUGHT THEY WERE SCUM.
GET IT?

You seem to be pushing your read on me a lot more than your random read on Snarky.
Is snarky your partner?

pedit: dammmmmmmnnnnnnnn not_mafia, back at it again with the lylo mislynch tunnel!

This is just substituting arrogance for a lack of an actual argument, I called your pushes opportunistic and you wanting to stay in the background. Saying they're scummy is irrelevant, this would be a terrible counter in singleball, but especially in multiball, which you acknowledged yourself. The "Is Snarky your partner" is just pure desperation.

Yup, you just admitted to "calling" them opportunistic.
I didn't want to stay in the background. I wanted shotty lynched.

And what? It's not ultra towntell, it's what happened. I thought they were scummy. I lynched them.

And why would I be desperate? You're the only one pushing me.
You come into the day saying, "MM+SS scumteam?" then go on to suddenly try and get me lynched.

So what's your point?

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Okay, you're scummy

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And you never answered who you think the scum team is, are you saying it's me and Snarky?

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Are there others?

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Okay, what are your reads?

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Snarky, I see you online

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Let's compromise and lynch Snarky, he's avoiding this game

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If you think this game is that black and white in regards to nightkills then we're just not gonna get very far, especcially in this set-up, I'm pretty sure Ranger was an attempted mafia snipe that wolves got lucky with. I don't remember grapes off the top of my head, I thought the Suzune slot was a very safe scum choice, but everyone seemed to love her entry so I think she was just killed as someone unlikely to be lynched

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VOTE: Snarky Snowman

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After reading this last string of posts I'm confident in this:

VOTE: N_M

Mate, I know I'm town, and I have just shown you why Mario is very unlikely to be a WW.

And you come up with this ridiculous Mario AND Almost for a WW team??

It's like you're saying Suzune suck!! She put ME AND MARIO at the top, and she was MAFIA (i.e. wanted to lynch WWs bc Mafia didn't even have a kill).

I said I could see a Mario/Almost team but didn't think it was likely, and that is what stands out to you out of the entire exchange between me and Mario?

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You know there's a possibility you're wrong

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Let's compromise and lynch Snarky, he's avoiding this game

That -in itself- is a scummy proposition. Why would I want to lynch someone I 90% scum read over someone I 100% am sure of being scum? Also, why would I lynch the inactive werewolf over the one who's been submitting the kill actions??

How do you expect anyone to engage in discussion on this, we're fully in circular logic territory now

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What you're saying is you want to bet the game on your reads rather than go with the town consensus on what you yourself call a 90% read

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NOT A CHANCE!! I KNOW N_M IS A WW.

I'll eat my shoe if he isn't.

I also know Mario is town and I'll eat the other shoe if he isn't.

I'm expecting a youtube video

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Snarky has been online since daystart, he is deliberately avoiding this game

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UNVOTE:

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At least half the town thinks Snarky is scum or is a "good possibility" or whatever non-commital thing Mario said

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@Dwlee:

You want me to consider TOWN!Ranger put the Werewolf duo at the very top of her reads???

He also had Kelbris as his biggest scum read, why should we care about a random plyer's day 1 reads?

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{Golden Robster}
{SnarkySnowman}
{

grapes

}
{

Kop

,

shotty

}
{Almost50}
{

hasta_la_pasta

, KainTepes}
{Reubrus Swagrid}
{

kelbris

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Almost, Why should we sheep these reads?

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No, you were, you posted elsewhere

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Who's scum?

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VOTE: Snarky Snowman

Ba booooooom

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BA BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

The truth will come out

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All will be reveled in due course

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VOTE: No Lynch

@mod can we get an accelerated night if all players agree?

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I think seeing the NK will be productive, both from a pure numbers perspective and who it is

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So Golden Robster was the only one who didn't post on site during the night phase.

Intentional no kill is possible but leaning towards Rob

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And looking at his posting yesterday all he really did was dismiss dwlee trying to narrow down possible pairs

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Mario why are you ignoring this game?

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How do you feel about missing your chance to kill due to inactivity?

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Did everyone vote for an accelerated night?

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Been leaning towards Mario anyway, I thought his posting yesterday was horrible, and he seems like the one most likely to intentionally no kill or flake out from th kill of the above is true

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Rob could be banking on mod not answering the question, which is possible if enthought he was dead to rites, but I'd have an intentional no kill by Mario or myself if I were scum in his shoes

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Okay I find it to be very believable that mario didn't vote for accelerated night or submit a kill

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Robster killing almost is obvious so I don't think he'd no kill on purpose

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Alone is the obvious kill for me and for Rob

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Are you really going to argue that everyone would have no killed

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Almost was a universal townread, you refused to give any real reads in the 6p day, your reads are meaningless in regards to the no, Rob is the obvious kill choice for Almost, Almost was the obvious no for me and Rob, the only person who's no is up in the air is you, your "everyone would no kill" argument is comical

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You only make that argument if you just didn't read the last game day

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Gun to your head, who's scum?

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Does anyone have anything more to add?

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Okay VOTE: Mario

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Gendaberry pls

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Rob sounds like twilight trolling, but fingers croased