Open 646 - Semi Nightless - Game Over (D6)

[Luna Fox]

Nah it's L-2, my previous vote was in bold instead of vote tags coz i forgot ._.
But see that's the thing, if you thought my initial vote counted, i can easily make scum think im voting someone during LyLo and bait them into outing themselves. This sort of tactic must be prevented by mods by allowing those votes to count, but with this mod apparently he doesn't get it...

[Luna Fox]

Nah it's L-2, my previous vote was in bold instead of vote tags coz i forgot ._.
But see that's the thing, if you thought my initial vote counted, i can easily make scum think im voting someone during LyLo and bait them into outing themselves. This sort of tactic must be prevented by mods by allowing those votes to count, but with this mod apparently he doesn't get it...

Your relentless lamp shading of it should effectively prevent it.

I agree, i'll shut up about it now.

[Luna Fox]

part of me feels i should be unsure since i was so fucking colossally wrong d1 but

luna is still scumtelling like she did d1.

Considering you were wrong about Karnos, and you're reading me the same exact way as you did in D1, you certainly arent doing anything to correct you having backwards reads.

[Luna Fox]

Well have fun continuing being wrong then.

[Luna Fox]

And now we get 2 competing L-2 wagons.
This is the 1v1 i've been looking for ^_^

[Luna Fox]

Hey Luna, read the combined ISO of Tenshii and Thor and tell me what you think. I don't like how Tenshii ignored mhsmith and my request for an explanation about you.

I still doubt Tenshii's scum.
I take her naked vote as granting me my wish of 1v1 with KTS ^_^

[Luna Fox]

Both Tenshii and Transcend were hard WKing Karnos however, not both can be scum, and in my case i dont think it's either.

[Luna Fox]

I keep forgetting that ^_^;;

[Luna Fox]

I kinda find anti-town to say what a player needs to do to be scummy, because then that player knows what to NOT do.
Also it's kinda bad to scumread or townread people for something they haven't done yet.

[Luna Fox]

Time to wait 24 hours for that reply XD

[Luna Fox]

because her jump onto the Karnos wagon felt strange to me

I thought I already explained that D1.

459 is reaching.

Here is where my townread on Karnos broke. I was still voting PC coz of him posting elsewhere instead of here gave me scummy vibes.

oooh wait phantom was the tracker in newbie 1693, and thor was scum there

I'm going to say that Newbie 1693 is now mandatory reading for everyone, myself included .

Then this happened, i reconsidered my read on PC.

Let's play the let's give Transcend more reasons to scumread me game.

Vote: Karnos

And this was the result.
I've been very open in my reads progression, what part still confuses you?

[Luna Fox]

I feel as though since I've been townreading everyone sans Karnos and Rosske, bringing up that townslip pretty much ruined every foundation I've had for a scumpartner.

And later people wonder why i have always LivingScum+1 at least in my leftovers...

[Luna Fox]

What has KTS done to even earn a townread to begin with, he's done like nothing all game.

[Luna Fox]

Ok so i was right, Tenshii's only voting me to grant me my wish of 1v1ing with KTS ^_^ because according to his post he should be voting PC instead of me.

[Luna Fox]

My vote on Luna is more of a salt vote than a read. LMAO. But Luna's all happy about it for whatever reason which pisses me off even more.

I'm filled with happyness, there's nothing you can do to make me feel mad ^_^

[Luna Fox]

We have a lot of mislynches and I want to hit scum with this one.

Yeah me too!
Let's go for that perfect town win! ^_^

[Luna Fox]

Luna literally hard claimed dodgeball coach. Does anyone cc?

I'd like to think that im more of a Town General than Dodgeball Coach.

You see this 1v1 feels like an Epic Final Battle against the last scum. Hence why im happy about it.
Me with my town supporters vs KTS with his Town victims.

Where i use my

Logic Sword

Unless you want me to believe that you vote park Thor all game, make no statements and decide to coast off fluff posting and when Karnos is at L-1 you decide to lynch the player your scumread is pushing. And not take it as a bus hammer.

To which KTS dodges with his defense:

terrible logic.

Nice Dodgeball Coach right there!, dont you think?
And then i shall borrow

Thor's Hammer:

@KTS - I want a link to another game with you "lolhammering" or a link to your lolhammer vow please.
Otherwise I'mma side with Luna on the question of your alignment. You look weak, son!

To which KTS once again swiftly dodges:

you can lynch me idc just kill luna or rosske later

i dont like gigabye either, but we have 4 mislynches and giga can easily b scum.

What a nice dodge, no one even noticed the swift moves from this pro dodgeball player!

[Luna Fox]

I just used images to add to the excitement ^_^

Who shall win this final battle between The Forces of Good and The Forces of Evil.

[Luna Fox]

1) Where am i dodging you? If you stated a question and i missed it, then quote it because i believe i've answered everything you asked.
2) The first image is from an anime called Saki, the 2nd image idk i just randomly found it on google.

[Luna Fox]

I was checking my ISO, and im like "wth i didnt post 959"
Then I noticed you asked a quesiton:

Why did you let it be known that you would lynch KTS?

Because that's where my reads were at.

[Luna Fox]

If you look at it my 3 leftovers in chance of flipping scum were Karnos, KTS, PC.
So if Karnos flips scum i'd proceed to the next one.
After KTS's reaction I remembered all KTS had done which supported my read.

[Luna Fox]

That's like... the basics of Process of Elimination and i dont understand why someone would be asking me that question.

[Luna Fox]

Also sorry if me not answering your question made you feel salty, i missed it, it happens.

[Luna Fox]

So basically you're saying that the people that Karnos argued against are all town.... which is something i already figured out...

[Luna Fox]

He's not lynching Phantom either!

[Luna Fox]

Well either way i have strong townreads on all of You, Giga, Thor, Io, so i don't see your point.

[Luna Fox]

Either way it seems like you're just coming to the same conclusions im coming to in a slower manner so im just gonna leave you be.

[Luna Fox]

Talk through your tenshii strong town read? I'd think pushing counter wagons on karnos (tenshii or transcend) is a reasonable profile of a scum buddy of karnos, and I'm not really sure why either has otherwise earned a strong town read.

It's a leftover from D1, i had a strong townread on Tenshii back then, well admitedly some of my townread on him was because i also thought Karnos was kinda acting too stupid to be scum until the reaching post, I was the first one to bring up PC's issues, and i still have PC in left overs, but considering he's possibly lynchbait he's not my first priority anymore. He's not leaving mislynch options open either which is what i'd expect scum to be doing at this point, he's also thining down the list of possible scum just like im doing, he's just more convinced that PC's scum, while im more convinced that KTS is scum.

[Luna Fox]

I'd think pushing counter wagons on karnos (tenshii or transcend) is a reasonable profile of a scum buddy of karnos

Heh, even then the only person i'd think would be scum would be Transcend.
I think Karnos/KTS (Active Loud/Lurky coasty) kind of team make more sense to me at this point.
There's usually the case where scum teams divide themselves into different groups of town to blend in, rarely all of them in the same group. (Which is why PC is a secondary option).

[Luna Fox]

What do you mean by mislynch options?

You're clearing people and thining down the lynch pool.
Scum would be doing the opposite because they need a bunch of mislynches to win.

[Luna Fox]

Everybody and their blanking mother is so convinced that he's bad town just because of meta.

I think you missed the part where he's still in my leftovers but a lower priority.

[Luna Fox]

If what you're saying about >everyone else< not wanting to lynch PC is true, then you're literally lynching the only player that MAY support you in lynching him.

[Luna Fox]

i guess giga just gained a post restriction in which they must vote KTS on every post.

[Luna Fox]

Is it bad that im laughing so much at these posts XD

[Luna Fox]

Before KTS actually comes online and self-hammers:

If he flips green, what do we do?

I highly doubt this is happening but if it does my only next bet for scum is PC otherwise scum is snowing me and i need to re-evaluate everything.

[Luna Fox]

Tenshii the legend

I like you.
I'll include you in my crusade to cleanse the land from the evil scumlord.

[Luna Fox]

i am continuing to vote kts on the assumption he meant nk

Uh read the setup: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... -Nightless
It means NK.

[Luna Fox]

Can't blame you, i tend to not read setups sometimes ^_^;;

[Luna Fox]

It would be cool if KTS dies by Thor's Hammer and flips scum like i believe he'll do.
It would be a really epic end to this battle.

[Luna Fox]

You really can't figure my stance by reading my posts? wow.

[Luna Fox]

Let's play a different game

ZTD, best game, Zero Escape, best series (still need to play VLR but no 3DS )

[Luna Fox]

tojam2 Jul 14, 11:39am Jul 27, 03:30am 0 days 23 hours 25

Yeah that doesnt quite look very good does it...

[Luna Fox]

esp. Since I have to make my own given the inconsistent ordering if Vcs in the game.

And one or 2 of them dont even show who's voting just L-5 instead.
I'm pretty sure the listmod is gonna have a field day with this guy.

[Luna Fox]

Killthestory L-4 - Rosske, gigabyte, mhsmith0, Luna Fox

Ok so

@mod: First of all Tenshii's also voting KTS, 2nd of all that makes it L-4 you're putting the ammount of votes not L-X

[Luna Fox]

Killthestory L-4 - Rosske, gigabyte, mhsmith0, Luna Fox

2. The Mafia can only lynch from Night 3 onwards.

Nah gais. This is proof that the rule is actually correct and both mafia are on KTS's wagon. *cue dramatic sound effect* DUN DUN DUNNNNNN

Lol i wish, but there's like only 1 mafia left.
Also just to note that we might hear from KTS soon considering he's posting in the title fairy thread ^_^

[Luna Fox]

Why aren't Thor and Io voting? There's enough information out there that anybody should be able to place a vote

Probably because they haven't read yet.

[Luna Fox]

'cus as soon as KTS dies he dies.

This is pretty true in the scum!PC scenario.
But i wanna know what's going through KTS mind right now because nothing he's doing points towards town.

[Luna Fox]

I could do them in reverse order tbh, but i think KTS is more likely to be scum and i kinda want a perfect town win so...

[Luna Fox]

Technically PC flipping sucm means i had the wrong order of priorities in my leftovers. Did you by any chance miss my post with the pretty pictures?

[Luna Fox]

Well that's an L-2 alright.

[Luna Fox]

why are you self-voting?

[Luna Fox]

Oh it was Rosske's vote. For a momment i thought it was yours >.<

[Luna Fox]

So for everyone voting PC, does anyone disagree with my case in 1029. Like no one has even brought up my points or why they think they're wrong or disagree with them, and that's really bothering me.

[Luna Fox]

Yes I agree there has to be scum on my wagon, gained momentum way too quickly

Oh yeah whoops,

@Mod can you delete that thanks

So imma assume the first post is yours.
Anyway, you're voting someone currently outside your wagon and that has no desire to see you dead today as of yet, mostly coz im more sure of KTS being scum, if you think the last scum is certainly in your wagon, who do you think it is?

[Luna Fox]

That's what I'm trying to figure out

Let me give you a hint.
It starts with Killthe and ends with Story.

For someone supposedly very convinced im scum because "my attack was opportunistic" due to an unflipped goon he seems to be very happy to be voting you instead of me, he'll just vote anything that moves!

[Luna Fox]

I was kinda hoping to see Thor around and get some insight on whether im going wrong on my case and why because... no one else is helping me out here.
But then i remembered he's on V/LA until August 5th...

[Luna Fox]

the fact that PC isnt being survivalistic like KTS is?

[Luna Fox]

the fact that PC isnt being survivalistic like KTS is?

There's that, and also the fact that I just realized KTS vote hopped for like no reason.

KTS, why did you change from Luna to Phantom?

Uhh... that's exactly what i meant by survivalistic ^_^;;

[Luna Fox]

So are we gonna spend another 15 pages before you guys decide to lynch scum KTS?
I already made a case, with pretty pictures and stuff, no one has dared to respond to it yet keep "townreading KTS".
And we can also add survivalistic vote hoping to my case.

[Luna Fox]

Nice to see some content from you, but can i ask you what your reasons are?

[Luna Fox]

I meant reasons for your reads.

[Luna Fox]

Appeal to fear?....

[Luna Fox]

Killthestory L-4 - Rosske, gigabyte, mhsmith0, Luna Fox

Ok so

@mod: First of all Tenshii's also voting KTS, 2nd of all that makes it L-4 you're putting the ammount of votes not L-X

I'll blame it on jetlag(I was only in Dublin then :/).

VC Day 2 - 2

PhantomCobalt L-3 - Killthestory, Io, Tenshii, Rosske
Luna Fox L-3 - Killthestory, Transcend, PhantomCobalt
Killthestory L-4 - gigabyte, Luna Fox

(expired on 2016-08-09 10:40:00)

@Mod: This VC is also wrong KTS appears twice

There's 3 wagons, PC, Me and KTS (KTS was actually voting PC and not me).
This eventually makes it more like
PC > Io, Tenshii, Roske
Me > Transcend, PC
KTS > Giga, Me
Transcend > KTS

You seem to be rather rattled by a single vote.

[Luna Fox]

V/LA 1 week

[Luna Fox]

and there was TREMENDOUS potential for a karnos partner to take karnos side in the karnos-io debate, or just call it town-town, or find something else to talk about and change the conversation.

then why don't you just say it directly?

Although as of now, I'm down for Giga, Io, Thor for the first 3.

Add yourself there too.
I don't mind if im out as long as it's autowin.

[Luna Fox]

I already found it... i've been voting them all day.

[Luna Fox]

VOTE: KillTheStory

I'm still serious about the question I asked that no one fielded.
Why is Tenshii a townread for peeps?
I got nothing there.
Slot feels super empty.
Whassup?

Well if you came to this conclusion you wont need to read my 1029 then.

[Luna Fox]

I think you're confbiasing at this point.

[Luna Fox]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ation_Bias

[Luna Fox]

Here
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8126494
Karnos has a lot to say, none of it relating to the KTS case / wagon (even though for survivalism sake it'd make sense to push or at least test it normally). A moment that is suggestive of a kts or rosske buddy.

Uhh do you think Scum!Rosske doesnt pay attention to the votes on his buddy? Because he literally came in calling me conf town just coz the mod messed up the vote order and put me as the first voter.

[Luna Fox]

Something about me wanting to Lynch PC and because i was townreading the slots arguing as per his: 442
While i had made it very clear that i play with townhunting and PoE.

If he has anything else, then idk.

[Luna Fox]

VOTE: Luna Fox
L-1

Are you gonna continue to keep ignoring questions instead of pretending to be multivoter in a mountainous setup?

[Luna Fox]

instead = while.

[Luna Fox]

Uhh i'm a she

[Luna Fox]

Anyway i already explained that, what did you dislike about my explanation?

[Luna Fox]

I've been asked by others before, hold on i'll search for it

[Luna Fox]

because her jump onto the Karnos wagon felt strange to me

I thought I already explained that D1.

459 is reaching.

Here is where my townread on Karnos broke. I was still voting PC coz of him posting elsewhere instead of here gave me scummy vibes.

oooh wait phantom was the tracker in newbie 1693, and thor was scum there

I'm going to say that Newbie 1693 is now mandatory reading for everyone, myself included .

Then this happened, i reconsidered my read on PC.

Let's play the let's give Transcend more reasons to scumread me game.

Vote: Karnos

And this was the result.
I've been very open in my reads progression, what part still confuses you?

[Luna Fox]

This isn't reaching imo in fact i thought this was a good post from him.

Ok i can see why you've been having backwards reads all game.

So what's good about: Calling someone scum for typoing their name.

[Luna Fox]

Also i refuse to believe you suspended your PC lynch due to meta. I down right refuse.

Well refusing to believe it, doesnt make it untrue

Your vote hop was awful.

What was awful about it?

Your initial vote on PC was bad. Your tunnel on him was bad.

What was bad about it? I stated my reasons for thinking he was avoiding this thread.

Your evasion of his bw was awkward then your vote hop on karnos is horrendous.

Uhh, horrendous? how?

And now you're coasting on a kts lynch.

I am not coasting i keep restating my case on KTS, and the only time i ever doubted my KTS scumread is when he voted you.

You're the most likely to be scum imo.

And you're wrong.

[Luna Fox]

Either 1- you did read my posts, and you ignored my correction just be a troll

or 2- you aren't reading my posts, because you are scum and you know I am town, so it doesn't matter what I say

Yeah totally not doing that, ok.

[Luna Fox]

Basically Karnos was accusing Io of not reading his posts, which started because Io typo'd his name, that's a big reach.

[Luna Fox]

townbloc is transcend, PC, Luna, and you can have someone else there i dont care.

Aren't you voting transcend tho.

[Luna Fox]

it's a countdown tag, it updates everytime you check the post.

[Luna Fox]

PhantomCobalt Jul 14, 08:10pm Jul 29, 10:03am 7 days 11 hours 28
Gotta love those prods.

@Mod: pls

[Luna Fox]

This day phase feels like it's dragging, KTS should've been hammered pages ago, why does it always take forever to lynch scum u.u

[Luna Fox]

if roping kts ends the game i will admit to being the third mafia this game and put in my sig "luna fox is a scumhunting goddess"

Or this.

[Luna Fox]

if roping kts ends the game i will admit to being the third mafia this game and put in my sig "luna fox is a scumhunting goddess"

Or this.

Will be awaiting this eagerly

[Luna Fox]

why is luna in the townbloc, argh

Because im town.

[Luna Fox]

tojam2 Jul 14, 11:39am Aug 05, 07:53pm 2 days 6 hours
Yeah this is getting ridiculous.
Nevermind a player being away for 7 days without getting prodded.

[Luna Fox]

PhantomCobalt Jul 14, 08:10pm Jul 29, 10:03am 7 days 11 hours 28
Gotta love those prods.

@Mod: pls

Yeah remember that? fun times XD

[Luna Fox]

While i dont mind that townbloc i think Trascend is going to be very against it.

[Luna Fox]

Atm, I feel like we should either lynch me or Phantom today.

Why you?

[Luna Fox]

Also are we allowed to play the mod? Like get reads based off of mod activity?

What?

[Luna Fox]

I've never heard of such a thing...
The closest thing is setup spec due to mod meta, but that's meaningless in mountainous/open

[Luna Fox]

Transcend is active lurking

Uh what.

[Luna Fox]

Well ok, hopefully this ends it
VOTE: PC

[Luna Fox]

i think you screwed up the post link, here 1536

[Luna Fox]

@Transcend Why is 1536 scummy?

This question made me giggle...
Do you realize Transcend posted 1536 and he was calling attention to it?

[Luna Fox]

That was the point right? He was using those quotes as a scum case for Rosske?

Well yeah i thought you were implying that Trascend was saying 1536 was a scum post when he made it himself.

[Luna Fox]

So basically, the mod messed up again

[Luna Fox]

...
There's something I want to say but i'll wait until every living player has posted first.

[Luna Fox]

Ok now i can finally say what i was going to say.

[Luna Fox]

So... the thing is.
I went to sleep after the hammer had happened while Tenshii and Thor were arguing.
When I woke up the mafia had already made a NK...
Like if this can happen then it's fairly obvious that people could become conf town or conf scum based on online times alone. Unfortunately I already looked up into that, and if I was able to do that others might have been able to, i probably shouldn't have.
I don't like to play like i am cheating, so i just can't continue playing, I hope the mod learns something from this =/

The reason i wanted to wait for everyone to post first is so that others wouldn't use this if they didnt think of using it before, so no more people have their games ruined.

@mod: I'm replacing out.

[Luna Fox]

lol okay
Well thing is that when the mod posted that one night kill, the timestamp of that night kill was the same time stamp as Transcend's last login.

[Luna Fox]

Here's the reason i rep'd out btw: