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I think those are both bad votes. Maybe lo, rock n roll. I think that's town though at this point after a quick read through. Still gotta give this game some content.In post 436, Dunnstral wrote:I'm ok voting either lane or io right now-
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You know it. I've been working on the railroad all the live long day. Reading when I can. Don't worry, my true colors will show when I canIn post 440, farside22 wrote:Wow I missed lane even being here.
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You didn't even let me give my reasons. So that was your whole case? Because I didn't give my reasons soon enough you want to lynch me?In post 468, Shinobi wrote:
For coming up with terrible reasons to suspect me.In post 459, lane0168 wrote:Farside, Shinobi, what's your scum case on me? Dunnstral? For you is it all of what franky did? The overreaction?-
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Are you kidding me? I got two votes in 8 hours after I replaced in. I couldn't fucking catch up I told you people that, then I get two votes. Then I get another one from Cy! And you're asking me why the fuck did I claim? Cy fucking voted me to l-1 after I claimed not even knowing how many votes were on me. AND YOU'RE ASKING ME WHY THE FUCK I CLAIMED?! I claimed cause people can't wait for a fucking catch up! You should be around why the fuck people were running me up without giving me a chance to speak! Fucking try to blame this not me. That's fucking bull shit right thereIn post 472, Bins wrote:
Wait, why the fuck did you claim?In post 457, lane0168 wrote:Roleblocker. Thanks for the chance to speak. Clearly don't have time to get my shit together before getting lynched
You do realise Franky was mostly being voted to pressure the replacement/get a slot to vote.
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And I will second that I got run up to l-1 even after I claimed, and you think I wasn't in immediate danger? Again, look at the people hopping on before I had a chance to speak.In post 477, Dunnstral wrote:Will second that that was a really bad time to claim and you weren't in immediate danger of being lynched-
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I could vote bins just for the fact of blaming me for the flip. Instantly jumps on my like it's my fault. No mention of me getting run up, if I would've known I had to do my full catchup in my first post I wouldn't have posted.
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Blew you off?! You have me how much time? I told you I was at work. Don't try to defend your scum shitIn post 525, Shinobi wrote:
You blew me off when I asked so lol @ you.In post 512, lane0168 wrote:
You didn't even let me give my reasons. So that was your whole case? Because I didn't give my reasons soon enough you want to lynch me?In post 468, Shinobi wrote:
For coming up with terrible reasons to suspect me.In post 459, lane0168 wrote:Farside, Shinobi, what's your scum case on me? Dunnstral? For you is it all of what franky did? The overreaction?-
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Funny. I remember lots of people blowing you off early game when you asked them to elaborate. You didn't seem to jump in them for it. But you see an easy lynch wagon and you're instantly on it cause I didn't answer in a few hours.!?In post 525, Shinobi wrote:
You blew me off when I asked so lol @ you.In post 512, lane0168 wrote:
You didn't even let me give my reasons. So that was your whole case? Because I didn't give my reasons soon enough you want to lynch me?In post 468, Shinobi wrote:
For coming up with terrible reasons to suspect me.In post 459, lane0168 wrote:Farside, Shinobi, what's your scum case on me? Dunnstral? For you is it all of what franky did? The overreaction?-
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I do, you haven't gone after anyone today. You didn't go after me. You put an easy lazy vote on an easy lazy wagonIn post 532, Shinobi wrote:
I suppose.In post 528, Realeo wrote:I am not only talking about lane, I am talking about your vote @ Alpaca during D2.
I'm still suspicious of Alpaca either way - he's still a low-impact player that seems happy not moving the game in any direction.
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Wait, did you vote me for bad reasons or no reasons? Cause you said bad reasons first, which means you read my later posts which clearly indicated I would be getting to your case when I had the chance.In post 536, Shinobi wrote:In post 530, lane0168 wrote:
Blew you off?! You have me how much time? I told you I was at work. Don't try to defend your scum shitIn post 525, Shinobi wrote:
You blew me off when I asked so lol @ you.In post 512, lane0168 wrote:
You didn't even let me give my reasons. So that was your whole case? Because I didn't give my reasons soon enough you want to lynch me?In post 468, Shinobi wrote:
For coming up with terrible reasons to suspect me.In post 459, lane0168 wrote:Farside, Shinobi, what's your scum case on me? Dunnstral? For you is it all of what franky did? The overreaction?
Above - not blowing people off. Nice.In post 433, lane0168 wrote:What a shit show.
Shinobi, I'm not telling you. I will not subject myself to your heckling.
Pedit - I don't like people who jump on me and refuse to talk about it. The last person I caught coasting off of some stupid Shinobi is scum tirade was scum. Don't sit here and tell me that you being at work was even relevant when you outright refused to say anything when I asked you.-
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What town play? The play where I wasn't even in the game yet? The play where the day I replaced in I had to work late and only had time for skimming and short posts? The play where I got run up to l-1 on accident? I'm over it. It didn't matter what I said at that point the intent would've been there.In post 560, Bins wrote:
That's not what I'm saying. I already think Franky votes were good because the guy WASN'T POSTING.In post 529, lane0168 wrote:I could vote bins just for the fact of blaming me for the flip. Instantly jumps on my like it's my fault. No mention of me getting run up, if I would've known I had to do my full catchup in my first post I wouldn't have posted.
That tells me she's trying to keep the blame off the people on the wagon...
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L-1 with no content isn't pressure. That's an active decision to go for the easy lynchIn post 564, Bins wrote:I meant post. I corrected that after.
Not vote.
Pressuring a replacement/lurk slot (especially Franky who was active) is a normal thing to do. It's common. But lane just freaked out, lol.-
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Alright I still think Shinobi is scum. Here is a quick run down of his posts. An iso will confirm.
Hard reads- 0 always says he's "comfortable" or "ok" with people he votes. Doesn't put together any case except alpaca doesn't have reads and majiffy is lackluster and capable of more. An iso of Shinobi reveals the irony in his weak reads
Fluff - 11
Please elaborate - 12 - most of the time there's nothing to elaborate on. Dunn thought it was an overreaction, later Shinobi says he doesn't agree with overreaction scum tells. These are all just to look busy.
"doesn't like but doesn't call scum" - 5 - these are pointless when you don't push them. Looking busy
Well catch up /give his reads later - 5 - he never follows up, or if he does, his posts don't reveal it
Votes majiffy for not being endearing, later explains he doesn't like his half hearted push. If majiffy was half hearted pushing, this push is no hearted. What about this was particularly vocal about majiffy? Nothing
Asks other people to really about someone else - 3 - as with his other questions, these don't go anywhere.
Not opposed to someone else's reads - 1
Doesn't agree with someone else's reads. - 3
This with the interaction I've had with him (him trying to discredit me before I speak) and jumping on the wagon, Shinobi is scum. He's doing all sorts of busy work. How cases are shallow if you can call them cases, and he never take any hard stands. Just trying to go with the flow for the most part.
Cases are half hearted and lackluster. Posts are full of busy work and fluff.
He makes a decent point about alpaca, so I hope that gives alpaca incentive to do more.-
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Like 4 days ago. Never got itIn post 231, Shinobi wrote:
I'll try to write out my current list tonight.In post 221, gameplay506 wrote:Btw shinobi can you give us your reads ty
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In post 286, Shinobi wrote:Farside, before I go around moving my vote from people I don't trust to other people I don't trust, talk to me about bins.
What do you think of her?
Busy questionsIn post 389, Shinobi wrote:Realeo, talk to me about Majiffy and tell me what you think of him.
Same, with Franky, if you would.-
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You have 11 fluff posts, 12 asking for elaboration, 5 posts talking about how you'll do something later but never do. 5 posts you say you don't like something but don't put a read on it per se, etc.
And 0 posts of substantial content. Unless you consider calling alpaca and majiffy lackluster and useless-
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The point is this. There is nothing substantial in your posts. It's busy work, fluff, asking questions that don't go anywhere, trying to look relevant but not, saying you'll do something but don't.In post 594, Shinobi wrote:
I kinda skimmed when answering but I felt like I should elaborate - there are a bunch of my posts that you wrote off and I don't really know how to address you because I don't know what you're talking about.In post 589, Shinobi wrote:
That doesn't tell me anything.In post 581, lane0168 wrote:It's the number of fluff posts, number of asking for elaboration posts etc
All your posts should be accounted for and that's a summary of what they all stood for. Nothing-
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Because you say it isn't true doesn't make it untrue. The proof is your iso. I'm not going to quote your entire iso to prove it. You can quote just a couple posts of you doing something other than what I've laid outIn post 605, Shinobi wrote:
ButIn post 598, lane0168 wrote:
The point is this. There is nothing substantial in your posts. It's busy work, fluff, asking questions that don't go anywhere, trying to look relevant but not, saying you'll do something but don't.In post 594, Shinobi wrote:
I kinda skimmed when answering but I felt like I should elaborate - there are a bunch of my posts that you wrote off and I don't really know how to address you because I don't know what you're talking about.In post 589, Shinobi wrote:
That doesn't tell me anything.In post 581, lane0168 wrote:It's the number of fluff posts, number of asking for elaboration posts etc
All your posts should be accounted for and that's a summary of what they all stood for. Nothing
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Where was he super analytical?In post 622, Dunnstral wrote:Shinobi was super analytical early on (the kind that's annoying tbh) and it feels as if he's fallen off in that hardcore recently-
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In post 642, lane0168 wrote:-
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In post 76, Shinobi wrote:
Was busy.In post 43, cytheflyguy wrote:
Honestly can't tell if scumtell or just lazy.Shinobi wrote:Hi. I'm going to do nothing until tomorrow.
Bye.
LMAOOOOOOOMajiffy wrote:
I hear it's the new blackIn post 37, Dunnstral wrote:Orange is cool too
Seems kinda reachy to read into that.
Honestly I'll quote every post one by one and show you there's no analysis is you can't show me 2 and insist he's super analytical. Actually I won't, I'll just lynch you nextIn post 77, Shinobi wrote:
Can you elaborate on any of these things?In post 52, gameplay506 wrote:VOTE: Cy
3 pages in one night fk u
But this guy seems like a legit place to place a vote
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Can I not spam one question?... Uh... Yes? I've not spammed all of my questions but one. Can you not ask stupid questions?In post 646, cytheflyguy wrote:Can you not spam one question please? @Lane-
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Tell me Cy, why should I stop when I can't even get an answer?In post 652, cytheflyguy wrote:
Lmao. You know what I mean.In post 649, lane0168 wrote:
Can I not spam one question?... Uh... Yes? I've not spammed all of my questions but one. Can you not ask stupid questions?In post 646, cytheflyguy wrote:Can you not spam one question please? @Lane
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This is the one quesion and I'd appriciate it if you'd stop please.In post 643, lane0168 wrote:In post 642, lane0168 wrote:-
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What conflict? What the fuck are you talking about?In post 654, Realeo wrote:Hint for lane: Try to iso Shinobi+Majiffy+Dunstral in one page. You'll see the conflict.-
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Hey Cy, why should I stop asking just because you don't like it and it hasn't been answered?
Hey Dunn, you gonna show me where he was super analytical? Didn't think so. So why did you say that?
For everyone wondering why I'm asking, scum pulls shit out of their ass, cause that's what they have to do. And for Dunn to be that far off on Shinobi's game, looks scummy as Fuck-
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Lol Shinobi pushing someone else because they're doing nothing that isn't alpaca or majiffy? Dude, you need to get more creative when you're making up cases.
Can you elaborate on Farside and bins?
If I think someone is scum, hard read scum, and people don't believe me, I'm going to keep pushing my case. If I keep seeing something as scum, I'm going to keep telling people its scum. If after several attempts to convince someone is scum, I'm going to start to don't my read if literally no one is seeing what I'm seeing. I might keep pushing it further at this point if something else looks scummy, but eventually you have to maybe consider you're wrong and reevaluate your view.
That's how it would go for town. And you're using it as a scum tell haha! Wow-
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Haha! "shifting spots on [your] readslist"... Funny. We've never seen one of these reads lists, and yet people have been moving up and down on it?In post 677, Shinobi wrote:
I've explained both of them already. Majiffy really doesn't need proof because, well, we both know what I'm talking about without needing to dig up quotes.In post 674, farside22 wrote:In post 673, Shinobi wrote:
So ignoring the fact that this is still wrong: is there any particular reason you're not voting majiffy or why my bins read is wrong?In post 670, farside22 wrote: As for shinobi I not only are with Lany I noted that shinobi has been following a lot and pushed fuck all.
Even the fluff quotes dunn posted reinforced that the questions he ask has done nothing for him.
Why is bins and majiffy scum?
Don't give me the I expect better speech, so me proof on this.
As for bins, I would agree on that, but I'll just show you alcapaca once again and ask, why not him?
As for Bins, posts #262 up to 264 are what I'm talking about. Her opinions just make me go "what? Why does this even matter?" and I just can't follow them - it feels like she's just kind of latching onto minutiae and it doesn't look normal.
I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea of an alpaca wagon - he keeps shifting spots on my readslist because my opinions on other players end up being far more extreme, while alpaca just kind of "exists." If I'm wrong on somebody, he'd be my next target/suspect.-
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Your answers weren't sufficient. Can you elaborate more?In post 682, Shinobi wrote:
I just elaborated on both.In post 678, lane0168 wrote:Lol Shinobi pushing someone else because they're doing nothing that isn't alpaca or majiffy? Dude, you need to get more creative when you're making up cases.
Can you elaborate on Farside and bins?
If I think someone is scum, hard read scum, and people don't believe me, I'm going to keep pushing my case. If I keep seeing something as scum, I'm going to keep telling people its scum. If after several attempts to convince someone is scum, I'm going to start to don't my read if literally no one is seeing what I'm seeing. I might keep pushing it further at this point if something else looks scummy, but eventually you have to maybe consider you're wrong and reevaluate your view.
That's how it would go for town. And you're using it as a scum tell haha! Wow
What is your problem?-
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That's not analysis Dunnstral. That's asking questions and needing elaboration on silly things. Fluff, busy work. I guess we'd call that super journalistic Realeo?In post 663, Dunnstral wrote:In post 77, Shinobi wrote:
Can you elaborate on any of these things?In post 52, gameplay506 wrote:VOTE: Cy
3 pages in one night fk u
But this guy seems like a legit place to place a vote
Liking Realeo as townIn post 79, Shinobi wrote:In post 73, Majiffy wrote:Dunnstral, Farcry town
Would still like to lynch Io but will move to Frankly if the wagon doesn't kick up.
This seems a bit more apathetic than what I'm used to from you. Not a fan.In post 91, Shinobi wrote:
Can you elaborate on this a bit more? This answer doesn't particularly sate me.In post 84, gameplay506 wrote:Idk Cy seems really awkward, fake and whatnot.In post 92, Shinobi wrote:
Aggression.In post 87, Majiffy wrote:Inwardly smiling.
What you're used to from me?In post 79, Shinobi wrote:In post 73, Majiffy wrote:Dunnstral, Farcry town
Would still like to lynch Io but will move to Frankly if the wagon doesn't kick up.
This seems a bit more apathetic than what I'm used to from you. Not a fan.
Oomph.
Passion.
Here, you just seem kind of floaty and whatever about things. It bothers me.In post 93, Shinobi wrote:
Do you think that it's scummy to go after someone using nonexistent reasoning? I don't really follow this logic.In post 89, Dunnstral wrote:In post 58, Dunnstral wrote:
VOTE: FrankyIn post 55, Dunnstral wrote:[v[Franky[/v]
Because I said soFranky wrote:Why?In post 66, Franky wrote:In post 63, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:What do you have to share Franky?
I'll answer these after getting a look into why Dunnstral seems so sure I'm scum.In post 65, farside22 wrote:Franky: Why are you following gameplay?
You can vote me in the meantime, I don't mind.In post 68, Franky wrote:Not really, I'm not the one who displayed certainty. I don't actually even need to justify myself, but Dunnstral does. If you lot don't see that, you should review your way of looking at the game.
Franky turned my randomish vote into something big and acts as if I had some big reason for my voteIn post 71, Franky wrote:@far: Let me put it this way. The only possible way you will get any answers to any questions about this topic out of me is if you get them out of Dunnstral first.
I didn't, but now I feel good about itIn post 97, Shinobi wrote:
Because?In post 95, Dunnstral wrote:I think Franky's overblown reaction was scummyIn post 99, Shinobi wrote:Yeah, you said that already.
I fail to see how that's outside his expected range or why it's overblown. Can you fill those two gaps in logic up for me?In post 117, Shinobi wrote:
This doesn't really answer my question.In post 101, Dunnstral wrote:
Because I naked voted him basicallyIn post 99, Shinobi wrote:Yeah, you said that already.
I fail to see how that's outside his expected range or why it's overblown. Can you fill those two gaps in logic up for me?
And he acted like I was "so sure" of my vote and overreacted and such
And so I'm keeping my vote on himIn post 119, Shinobi wrote:
Still seems like a stretch to me tbh - I just don't place much value in the "he's overreacting so he's scum" line of thought.In post 104, Realeo wrote:
I will try to fill in this because I am also bothered by the same thing.In post 99, Shinobi wrote:Yeah, you said that already.
I fail to see how that's outside his expected range or why it's overblown. Can you fill those two gaps in logic up for me?
Have you ever heard the phrase, "The innocent relax, The guilty shouts." I mean, it's classic scene where your mom accuses your dad cheating, then your dad shouts back at your mom saying, "You bitch! How dare you accuse me of cheating! We have been marrying for 25 years! Do you never believe in me?"
And it turns out the father is cheating.
When I poke cy, cy just relax. When Dunn poke Franky, Franky becomes dad.
I'll pass, thanks.-
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OK. As Dunnstral was confused about what analysis is, show me his follow up. That meant anything to the game. Show me anything.In post 707, farside22 wrote:In post 703, lane0168 wrote:@game, why do you think Shinobi is town? I don't need proof of quotes. But why do you think that? (I might need proof or quotes if your answer is something I haven't seen)
I noted a few things in my emotional state, but I ignored them because I couldn't understand shinobi's sudden change of view or why he was ignoring alpaca.
Just to get to it briefly, he is pushing his thoughts more then you realize with those questions. He is following up and digging into things he noted and some of the questions are intended for reaction purposes.
That was what I got inbetween my wtf moment do to shinobi's reaction to my vote.-
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