Open 658 Making Friends and Enemies | Game Over

Aubrey · Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:49 am

First!

Did anybody else imagine the mayor from Nightmare Before Christmas in that intro?

VOTE: Ari

As if I'm going to let you get away with killing the mayor.

Aubrey · Post Post #17 (isolation #1) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:17 am

In post 16, Secret Agent Jin wrote:I am probably not writing anyone's name down as it is a fresh game and im not even jokingly pointing any fingers.

VOTE: Lynch: No One

:/

Aubrey · Post Post #19 (isolation #2) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:30 am

Jokingly pointing finger/RVS sets the stage and gets the ball rolling. If nothing is said, and everyone sits on their ass, the game doesn't move forward. You not wanting to partake in the initial set up of the game doesn't look good.

There is also no benefit in a no lynch on day one. To not lynch is to basically give the Scum a free day, and hinders the town of information later on. I wouldn't even think of a no lynch until much further in the game. This also doesn't look good.

This could either come from a hesitant newer player or scum not wanting to muddy their hands.

Aubrey · Post Post #23 (isolation #3) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:42 am

In post 22, oddmusic wrote:Hmm, now that I think, the same could apply to Aubrey.

Aubrey, you got anything on the early wagons that are forming yet?

I'm not looking to much into them right now. The game has just started. I'm also at work, and only skimming here and there.

Aubrey · Post Post #25 (isolation #4) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:45 am

Looking at it, I probably would have said something similar to Death-Star irregardless of alignment if I were in their shoes. I don't see it as exactly damning.

Aubrey · Post Post #28 (isolation #5) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:14 am

In post 24, MiniDeathStar wrote: I feel like I should remind you all that Secret Agent Jin joined the site literally 3 days ago. This is probably his first game of forum mafia ever.

He isn't exactly under attack...

Aubrey · Post Post #92 (isolation #6) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 am

In post 65, MariaR wrote:
In post 63, Creature wrote:1) Transcend

2) Creature

3) Burgerking
4) Aristophanes
5) BK201
6) sad1492
7) MariaR
8) Aubrey

9) MiniDeathStar
10) oddmusic
11) Secret Agent Jin
12) doomfeathers
13) tojam2
WTF IS THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS BS
IT'S 3 PAGES IN EXCUSE ME?
WTF IS THIS DOING HERE GET IT OUT OF MY FACE

Read this on my phone and lost my shit.

Aubrey · Post Post #95 (isolation #7) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:59 am

I'm not seeing transcend as super scum like others just yet. It looks like RVS still. If it continues throughout the game/day then I'll have issue.

Aubrey · Post Post #96 (isolation #8) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:00 pm

I also assume creatures reads to be more leans than anything else.

Aubrey · Post Post #98 (isolation #9) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:03 pm

In post 93, sad1492 wrote:OH GOD I MISSED RVS
I really like the interaction between mariar and transcend. She keeps on protecting transcend in a manner not far from masons protecting each other.
Or scums protecting each other; I'm just leaning on the first one. Mariar said (jokingly?) in #30 that she's voting her mason partner and now she's defending him. The interaction is actually really towny to me.

Why the fuck are u looking for masons?

Aubrey · Post Post #103 (isolation #10) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:14 pm

VOTE: sad

Aubrey · Post Post #119 (isolation #11) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:14 pm

In post 109, sad1492 wrote:...Oh shit
So as town we should not find masons, but rather to find scums? Thats kinda against my normal play style but I guess I'll have to adopt.

Thank for the explanation anyway! It was really helpful

...yes.

There is nothing wrong with townhunting and scum hunting, but don't sit there are look for possible massons. that is anti town. I see you are newer to the site. What is your mafia experience?

Aubrey · Post Post #120 (isolation #12) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:17 pm

Transcend aren't people pissed cause you won't say why mini is scum for you? Why not give the people what they want!

Aubrey · Post Post #122 (isolation #13) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:26 pm

In post 35, Secret Agent Jin wrote:Two things right off the bat.
1. This is my first game on this forum but i have little over two years experience with forum mafia but that is meta-gaming and i rather not bring that into play for this game.

2. The reason i voted no lynch right off the bat is because i am not use to this 2 week long days format and i figured i could take the temperature of the group and see how fast the responses are before actually voting but i didnt want to be caught with a no vote if a majority was reached very quickly.

I assume the bold is the supposed slip up.

2 years experience. I'd assume you have at least played what 3 to at least 5 games if not more? Can you plz link? If his years of experience is a true statement, I doubt he would make such a noob slip up as Transcend is making it sound. This just seems like awkward communication skills.

Aubrey · Post Post #124 (isolation #14) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:29 pm

LOL okay dawg.

Aubrey · Post Post #128 (isolation #15) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:51 pm

I'm a little perplexed Transcend. If you are so confident SAJ committed a scum slip why not say, "

HEY! after we lynch SAJ, then lets lynch Aubrey cause he scum slipped here too!

"

If you truly feel as if you have found 2 scum who have slipped while already having a vote on one, then I don't see the need to switch your vote from one to the other. In other words, I think your full of it and not being sincere here.

Aubrey · Post Post #130 (isolation #16) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:53 pm

VOTE: Transcend

Aubrey · Post Post #131 (isolation #17) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:54 pm

Aubrey · Post Post #135 (isolation #18) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:59 pm

Whoops! Went by the VC on page 4. My bad.

Aubrey · Post Post #139 (isolation #19) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:04 pm

I'm still trying to figure out where you think I scum slipped.

Aubrey · Post Post #141 (isolation #20) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:06 pm

In post 137, MariaR wrote:In the morning when I'm not dead inside.

Sounds like something from an Evanescence song.

Aubrey · Post Post #142 (isolation #21) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:08 pm

In post 120, Aubrey wrote:Transcend aren't people pissed cause you won't say why mini is scum for you? Why not give the people what they want!

...

Ya caught me copper.

Aubrey · Post Post #146 (isolation #22) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:16 pm

In post 145, MariaR wrote:CAN'T WAKE UPPPPPPPPPP

SAAAAAVVEEEE MEEEEEHHHHH!

Aubrey · Post Post #150 (isolation #23) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:16 pm

In post 149, Transcend wrote:SAJ might be town

Aubrey needs to burn at the stake tho

how dare I ask you to actually explain why you consider Mini a scum read when you become serious about it.

Aubrey · Post Post #152 (isolation #24) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:19 pm

Town of Salem. Ew.

Aubrey · Post Post #157 (isolation #25) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:43 pm

^^ *cough cough* addressing things that have already been addressed *cough cough*

Aubrey · Post Post #161 (isolation #26) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:47 pm

In post 160, Transcend wrote:Ah I see

Well welcome to mafiascum

Let's make your experience here pleasant by lynching Aubrey (the
mafia goon
) day 1

Aubrey · Post Post #163 (isolation #27) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:48 pm

In post 162, Secret Agent Jin wrote:Lets assume that isnt a joke post. What, in your eyes, makes her mafia?

he*

Aubrey · Post Post #166 (isolation #28) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:01 pm

You went from what looked like an RVS vote to being serious. All I've done is ask you to explain why. How is that scummy?

All you're doing is dodging the question by sweeping it under the rug, and trying to paint me as a big bad baddie from down the lane simply by saying "

omg look at this post it's SOOO scummy

" Psshh. It is not scummy.

Aubrey · Post Post #250 (isolation #29) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:39 am

Mini's frustration towards Trancend I find not alignment indicative. I can see either alignment getting fed up with Trancends's play.

Wow. He's been nominated for an award guys. Let's sheep him to victory cause almost getting award makes him townie!... Like seriously, that has no bearing on why people should follow you.

I'm fine with Trancend Ari and Toe getting some heat. Creature needs to also put a bit more effort into his reads.

Pedit: so your basically after me for wording? I was interested in your read, as were others. I don't see how that is scum.

Aubrey · Post Post #254 (isolation #30) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:01 am

So now it's because I defended myself...

Aubrey · Post Post #256 (isolation #31) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:06 am

In post 251, Transcend wrote:
I didn't exactly think the defense he gave on me was necessary

Aubrey · Post Post #257 (isolation #32) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:07 am

Did I misunderstand this?

Aubrey · Post Post #260 (isolation #33) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:16 am

That was a defense post? LMFAO. Okay maybe I need to start wording my posts more direct and without flair then.

Aubrey · Post Post #265 (isolation #34) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:11 am

120 is not a defense post for Transcend at all. It's a "

I want to know why your read is now serious when I thought it was initially RVS, and others want to know the same thing

" I don't understand how that post is being misconstrued as a defense post.

Aubrey · Post Post #272 (isolation #35) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:30 am

In post 267, MiniDeathStar wrote:
In post 265, Aubrey wrote:120 is not a defense post for Transcend at all. It's a "
I want to know why your read is now serious when I thought it was initially RVS, and others want to know the same thing
" I don't understand how that post is being misconstrued as a defense post.
Transcend was asking why you would involve "the people" and not yourself and I think I overanalysed it. Forget about that post for now, please.

???? It's obvious I had personal curiousity of my own to ask him for clarification on his read. If I didn't, I wouldn't bother in the first place, and I'd let the others push the question themselves.

Aubrey · Post Post #278 (isolation #36) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:31 am

In post 275, MiniDeathStar wrote:Actually scratch that, I would probably hammer Aubrey for information. Too many people suspect him right now and I think at least one of them could be scum, if he isn't scum himself.

I think I need to review open 649.

Only Creature and Transcend are scum reading me so far. That isn't much of a bandwagon.

Aubrey · Post Post #287 (isolation #37) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:25 am

In post 193, Transcend wrote::\

sad can be town for now guys

word to the wise sad: EM does not play the same way as MS. There is no "clear" that we all sheep. We all discuss the game independently and collectively decide who the best lynch is together.

Sad followed typical protocol for mafia on another site. How does that immediately register a town read from you? That is like saying "WHELP this guy followed RVS which is typical on mafiascum, he can't be scum."

SAD should be nothing more than a null.

In post 222, sad1492 wrote:I think MDS's town. She's being mad at Transcend for a reason, although i dont quite agree that Transcend's post is so annoying you stop wanting to see him altogether

This is also not alignment indicative. Why can't either alignment get pissed with someone when they post in a annoying style to said person?

:/ I can't help but feel as if a number of you are writing people off real quick for silly reasons.

Aubrey · Post Post #326 (isolation #38) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:39 am

In post 313, Transcend wrote:tojam's town too just has very bad meta on me

The hell is this? What in the world has he said that is townie. Like seriously go through the guy's ISO. He hasn't done a damn thing to deserve town credit.

Aubrey · Post Post #327 (isolation #39) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:07 pm

In post 314, Transcend wrote:Burger can be town as well I guess. His intro was p good.

This is also a bad read right now. This white knighting gig on Maria is horrid. To declare that someone white knighted right now doesn't make much sense. It actually seems like something that is easy to blame a townie for doing in this stage of the game when no roles have been flipped. Besides she only defended him once. it isn't like she is consistently defending him.

Not to mention, Burger hasn't even caught up. Their views could totally change, but you're real quick to give them a good o'l town lean there Mr.

Aubrey · Post Post #328 (isolation #40) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:09 pm

What I'm referencing above.

In post 293, Burgerking wrote:i dont think Transcend scumtold but i think maria's defence of that was really scummy

VOTE: MariaR

Aubrey · Post Post #332 (isolation #41) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:05 pm

In post 329, oddmusic wrote: Sad's experience with EM doesn't explain why he's fishing for the only power roles in the game (masons). I get how on EM it makes sense to look for a cop, but shouldn't it be obvious that the same logic that makes that work on EM doesn't apply here? I don't mind the vote on Tojam though.

Not necessarily. I joined MS after playing multiple games on a different site. The two site metas were different, and I had to adjust a bit. It's typical for someone to continue playing the way they know how. However what seems to be the issue here is that on whatever site he is from, it is common to locate the investigator so that a doctor can protect it so the town can follow the lead of the investigator. (I assume this is correct?). However we don't have a doctor this game, so it doesn't make sense to try and locate the masons. THAT being said, I wonder if he just considered mason hunting town hunting in general...or is just ignorant about the game mechanics for this certain type of mafia game.

Not to mention, it doesn't benefit scum to openly try and mason hunt aloud. Then again, if it is common for town to start the game by doing X from where he is from, then it makes sense for scum!Sad to do X here in the hopes of blending in.

It's a crappy situation to try and place him in. Hence why he is closer to a null read for me right now.

Aubrey · Post Post #335 (isolation #42) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:41 pm

I have people I'd like to see more out of because there isn't much content to consider, however it's early to have scum reads. A scum lean here or there is more appropriate.

Aubrey · Post Post #336 (isolation #43) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:58 pm

In post 329, oddmusic wrote:
Transcend is probably town folks. Annoying town, but still town. And there might even be a method to his madness.

Sell me on this. Cause just looking at this sentence makes me think your town reading him just cause he is active.

Aubrey · Post Post #341 (isolation #44) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:54 am

In post 338, sad1492 wrote:Burger isn't even putting effort into his/her posts.
Also the more I reread the more I realize MariaR is more likely scum protecting townie. Creature says that Transcend is good as scum. Assume that is correct, then MariaR should know that as well, and it is unlikely she'll protect him.

Seems like you and burger hold similar ideas though, so shouldn't that be a plus in your eyes since the both of you scumread Maria?

Aubrey · Post Post #353 (isolation #45) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:00 am

In post 345, tojam2 wrote: Aubrey I can't say I remember many of your posts.

...Then maybe you should read my ISO?

In post 349, doomfeathers wrote:
In post 348, tojam2 wrote:@doom, we have 3 scum to find, I never claimed to be remotely good at mafia so if you think my content is useless then you can ask Io to replace me.
Actually, that's just what you're doing. You're voting Transcend because of playstyle, not scumminess. By your logic, why not ask to have him replaced instead of voting him?

FOS tojam2

^

Aubrey · Post Post #354 (isolation #46) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:13 am

In post 341, Aubrey wrote:
In post 338, sad1492 wrote:Burger isn't even putting effort into his/her posts.
Also the more I reread the more I realize MariaR is more likely scum protecting townie. Creature says that Transcend is good as scum. Assume that is correct, then MariaR should know that as well, and it is unlikely she'll protect him.
Seems like you and burger hold similar ideas though, so shouldn't that be a plus in your eyes since the both of you scumread Maria?

In post 342, sad1492 wrote:nah. In fact as scum wouldn't it be likely for people to cling onto existing suspects?

I'm confused by this. Are you saying Burger is clinging onto an existing suspect while you are doing the exact same thing here?

Aubrey · Post Post #388 (isolation #47) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:02 am

Ew. L1.

Aubrey · Post Post #389 (isolation #48) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:09 am

In post 386, MariaR wrote:VOTE: Maria
Get me out of this.

You could always replace out though. Why self vote?

Aubrey · Post Post #393 (isolation #49) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:17 am

...I can't tell if this is a scum or town move. It would be a brilliant scum move in the hopes that your "emotional" reaction would relieve you of pressure. On the other hand, I can see where you are coming from in a townie mindset if you are truly upset at how the game has progressed. That being said, I can't help but think that you've caused a lot of your own problems to begin with here. Not to mention, if you're town, this mentality of throwing in the towel when the going gets tough sucks.

VOTE: MariaR

L2.

Aubrey · Post Post #395 (isolation #50) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:22 am

In post 392, Transcend wrote:VOTE: Aubrey

Granted I'd love to see Transcend dead, and would love if people would stop being so scared to vote for an active person. Then again, I'm sure people love the feeling of someone town reading them. He only has three scum reads and a full set of supposed town reads.

Aubrey · Post Post #396 (isolation #51) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:23 am

In post 394, MariaR wrote:I'm never one to show in the towel I'm doing this for the benefit of the town because I understand I am low hanging in this game because of something I did I am not a mason so this is the 2nd bet case we can do it's not trying to throw in the towel at all

Ick.

Why not vote Transcend? COME ON! You know you want to.

Aubrey · Post Post #398 (isolation #52) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:36 am

I'm fine if either of you die right now. I'd much rather see you dead though.

Aubrey · Post Post #400 (isolation #53) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:38 am

In post 399, Transcend wrote:Then vote me instead of sending MariaR closer to the gallows

why? Cause suddenly your town reading her?

Aubrey · Post Post #403 (isolation #54) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:49 am

I mean, really. Maria hasn't done much to make her slot look good. Then she wisps in here, and actively says "

Oh the reads that I haven't even really pushed, aren't getting lynched? I'll just go and actively lurk now.

" people have finally had it, and vote her. THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN,! oh shit the town is completely against her and there is nothing she can do!?!? better just self vote then!

Please. This looks like rubbish, and scum possibly trying to make a risky play in order to gain some town credit through emotional appeal. It isn't a smoking gun, but it has earned her a scum lean from me.

Aubrey · Post Post #407 (isolation #55) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:56 pm

Cause I don't like you either. Is that not clear? You've been handing out town reads so quickly it's ridiculous, and usually for reasons that I don't aggree with at all. Why do you think I've been attacking some of your town-read-statements throughout this game!? It's like you're not even considering the possibility of them being scum. Especially when you're basing the town read on little info it seems sometimes. Not only that, but it's like you don't even think scum can't seem townie at times either. It baffles me. I swear it's like you are buddying up with people by dispensing town reads at the drop of a hat.

Prime example. Ari is some supposed mislynch in your mind, and has a strong likelyhood of being a townie. Where in the 9 circles of hell did that come from!? This dude, of all dudes, should be a null read right now. I can even understand where people might see him as scum lean. Please visit all the other times I've questioned why you have town read people.

Your shit show on me is just as baffling, and frankly I don't understand it at all. THE PERSON WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR should have understanding for why you are voting them. All I hear you speak about is post 120. That post isn't scummy, but you sure are trying to warp it to be. I'm not going to address why I wrote 120 again. I've said it multiple times already, but it just seems to go out one ear and out the other with people.

You don't have a strong case on me at all right now, because if you did I'm sure you would have presented it by now or at least had a following. Creature is the only one who followed you. Hell, even his reason was outlandish. "scum trying to appear to reckless to be scum." Where have I been reckless? Is it because I was being a bit laid back, and enjoying the start up of the game by posting a stupid video and quoting Evanescense with Maria? Next up Maria, says she has a scum lean on me? Whelp maybe she should get off her butt and try and push it instead of being lazy and sitting back while everyone goes about their own business.

I feel like in some cases, people are just scared to vote you, Transcend, right now due to your activity in comparison to others who aren't as vocal. It also doesn't help that you're basically town reading everybody minus, what?, 2 people now. People like to be town read, and that makes them hesitant in voting for you more than likely. Serious question to everyone. How many of you all are following Trandscend's logic in general here? If the answer is no, then maybe you should start pushing him for understanding. A lot of activity doesn't mean that person is a likely townie. Scum can do it as well.

Aubrey · Post Post #409 (isolation #56) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:07 pm

In post 408, Transcend wrote:Aubrey is scum

Aubrey · Post Post #412 (isolation #57) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:20 pm

He has pressure on him already. He clearly isn't here and has the VLA banner on his avatar. Adding my vote will not prompt him to join any sooner. However when he joins he needs to come guns blazing, and not be apathetic. If I thought he was lurking then I'd be more willing to include my vote, but right now I think he is just busy.

Aubrey · Post Post #413 (isolation #58) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:21 pm

If you didn't have a vote on Ari who would you pick?

Aubrey · Post Post #431 (isolation #59) » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:29 am

In post 417, tojam2 wrote:Looking at p.15, I'm the most unreadable player right now, either conftown or lynchee. That probably puts own in a better place to lynch me day 1, so stuff starts clearing up, if we get to the last day I will self-vote, even if it's hammer.

Omg. The whole sacrificial thing from people is on my last damn nerve. Put effort into the game to help your slot or replace out.

Aubrey · Post Post #433 (isolation #60) » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:41 am

In post 418, tojam2 wrote:UNVOTE:

Might as well take my vote off a player I know is never going to get lynched.

This is also a sucky attitude. If you scumread the slot try and support it. Your not going to get a damn thing to go your way with your current attitude. Seriously.

Lastly put your vote somewhere. Sheesh.

Aubrey · Post Post #435 (isolation #61) » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:49 am

That attitude is horrid. Point blank.

Aubrey · Post Post #463 (isolation #62) » Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:16 pm

In post 436, Transcend wrote:Oh well

I don't care how my attitude appears to scum.

I wasn't talking about your attitude in that moment.

Aubrey · Post Post #464 (isolation #63) » Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:50 pm

I'm not a fan of the Ari wagon right now. Looks like an easy place to put a meaningless vote.

He only spoke on the first day, and has since disappeared due to being busy. He has come back, and said he is actively catching up. What do you really hope for your votes to obtain here? The ISO looks like typical day one crap. The slot is null, and I don't see anything that looks super scummy here. Yea, it doesnt look good to be gone for 2 days without a word, but life happens. I'd judge him more on what he has to say once he returns instead of day 1 shenanigans. If you are not happy with his return, then vote him. He should know, irregardless of alignment, that people are going to expect decent content upon his return due to missing so many pages. Your votes are not pressuring him of anything here, and in fact are kinda a waste it seems.

I vaguely remember someone voting him cause he never cast a vote day 1, but he had a FOS against whoever Oddmusic is referring to in post 41. Yea, I don't think that is ultra scummy here.

Now one would think, OH well he is a easy slot to vote so that makes him a good town candidate! Bleh. No.

Cause scum have never voted one of their own in order to make them look better should the slot flip scum.

It also totally doesn't help distances the two slots a bit even without a flip.

Aubrey · Post Post #466 (isolation #64) » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:12 pm

Aubrey · Post Post #468 (isolation #65) » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:20 pm

UNVOTE: MariaR
VOTE: Transcend

Aubrey · Post Post #470 (isolation #66) » Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:01 pm

so clearly you think otherwise.

Aubrey · Post Post #500 (isolation #67) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:29 am

I don't consider Transcends actions as s form of harassment. Somewhat annoying, but defiantly not harassment.

Aubrey · Post Post #501 (isolation #68) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:33 am

Whoops. Didn't see IO's message. Just decided to comment immediately after reading SAJ's comment. Sorry.

Aubrey · Post Post #502 (isolation #69) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:45 am

In post 497, tojam2 wrote:About 417, I think you guys are taking it out of context, on p.15 most of you were die-hard voting for me or null/town reading me, me dying, though being an infolynch would provide you with something to go on.

Bit early to offer yourself as a sacrificial piece don't you think? :-/ not to mention you still have the ability to help your slot. I'm not a fan of the sacrificial play. It comes off as a bit lazy or scummy.

Aubrey · Post Post #503 (isolation #70) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:55 am

I think I'm leaning more to the former.

Aubrey · Post Post #507 (isolation #71) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:47 am

Hello there gamma

Mhsmith, curious about those other reads.

Aubrey · Post Post #512 (isolation #72) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:17 am

In post 508, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 29, MiniDeathStar wrote:
@doomfeathers

I hope you don't mind but that sort of claim just invited me to review your other games. You did a similar self-assured jump in this game where you died as mafia. You didn't do that in this other game where you died as town.

It could be a coincidence, but for the moment I'd like my vote to stay where it is.
GOD DAMMIT

?

Aubrey · Post Post #546 (isolation #73) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:05 am

I like this mhsmith dude.

In post 513, mhsmith0 wrote: I just took a two-minute skim though your newbie scum game, you seem to have a solid scum game so while there were a few things that gave me a town lean on you I should probably look at that harder.

I'll take the compliment.

In post 515, Burgerking wrote:maria's flake out was scummy af but will wait to see what the replacement slot has to say

UNVOTE: MariaR

eh. Just cause a bunch of votes pile up, and someone quits doesn't mean that person is scummy.

In post 515, Burgerking wrote:maria's flake out was scummy af but will wait to see what the replacement slot has to say

UNVOTE: MariaR

In post 517, Burgerking wrote:
In post 511, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 510, Creature wrote:Hi Gamma Emerald, hopefully you don't mind playing scum.
Not at all!
bad reaction. feels like you're trying to sound sarcastic as scum

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Disagree. Any alignment can respond in that way

In post 541, Burgerking wrote:
In post 530, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 529, Burgerking wrote:havent u heard

it's the era of catfishing
K fuck you
VOTE: BurgerKing
I don't want a person like this in my game.
Congratulations on becoming my first official WOTC list member

omgus

and?

Gammas odd reaction seems typical. Least for me.

--

I aggree with BK. This issue isn't relevant.

Aubrey · Post Post #563 (isolation #74) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:37 am

Aubrey · Post Post #564 (isolation #75) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:53 am

As interesting as this is. The whole He she it argument has no purpose here, and I think it would be better to focus on the game instead of social justice issues. Gamma, if you had to pick a person to vote for SCUM reasons who would it be?

Aubrey · Post Post #565 (isolation #76) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:04 am

I'm also assuming you have caught up Gamna? Overall thoughts so far?

Aubrey · Post Post #567 (isolation #77) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:07 am

Burger, if you are town and missed a post how is it not possible for BK to miss a post? Dodging for more time to think of an answer is also not strong evidence. If he really needed more time to respond, he coulda just walked away from the game for a bit and came back once he had one.

Your arguments don't seem strong here.

Aubrey · Post Post #572 (isolation #78) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:22 am

I've already covered why I have issues with Transcend. Though I'm leaning towards moving my vote onto Burger.

Aubrey · Post Post #573 (isolation #79) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:23 am

@ODD: Post 407

Aubrey · Post Post #578 (isolation #80) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:33 am

In post 558, BK201 wrote:
In post 557, Burgerking wrote:
In post 555, BK201 wrote:
In post 554, Burgerking wrote:ok. u never answered:

why would u vote me if u had to vote someone other than ari?
Oh shit I missed that post somehow. You know why, and it has nothing to do with the off-topic discussion.
i dont know why otherwise i wouldnt be asking.
dodging the question is scummy.
Considering how likely it is you're scum, I feel this conversation is pointless.

BK should address the question none the less. I detest the "you know what you did!" argument. I don't have much love for either of these two slots as of right now.

@creature, I already explained why.

Aubrey · Post Post #579 (isolation #81) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:35 am

In post 575, oddmusic wrote:@ Aubrey: What's the case on Burger? Has he done anything scummy that I missed?

post 567

Aubrey · Post Post #581 (isolation #82) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:37 am

In post 580, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 577, Creature wrote:Also, why everybody forgot about Aristophanes?
because he's a non-entity right now

^^^^

Aubrey · Post Post #583 (isolation #83) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:41 am

In post 582, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 138, Transcend wrote:I WILL HACK YOUR ACCOUNT (without reading your role PM) AND DO IT MY GODDAMN SELF
The hell is this

A joke.

Aubrey · Post Post #588 (isolation #84) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:12 am

I thought u townread Maria? Why are you not voting your top scum read?

Aubrey · Post Post #589 (isolation #85) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:16 am

If Ari isn't here how can he vote someone?

Aubrey · Post Post #591 (isolation #86) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:26 am

Not necessarily. His whole ISO reads null. Him not voting right out the gate isn't alignment indicative. If you think it is, prove it to me.

Aubrey · Post Post #592 (isolation #87) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:41 am

510 is creature btw

Aubrey · Post Post #594 (isolation #88) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:45 am

In post 588, Aubrey wrote:I thought u townread Maria? Why are you not voting your top scum read?

Strike that last bit. For whatever reason i thought you said burger was your top scum read.

Aubrey · Post Post #595 (isolation #89) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:47 am

I'd ask why is she your top town read, but I'm sure that would be a waste of my time.

Aubrey · Post Post #597 (isolation #90) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:12 pm

Hmm I don't know. I'm conflicted. I was thinking about voting her due to not likening some of her logic, but at a quick glance back of current events, I can see why she responded to BK like she did. BK is looking a bit worse in my eyes.

Aubrey · Post Post #599 (isolation #91) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:20 pm

In post 510, Creature wrote:Hi Gamma Emerald, hopefully you don't mind playing scum.

You have to reconsider because you though this was BK?

Aubrey · Post Post #600 (isolation #92) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:20 pm

Burger*

Aubrey · Post Post #601 (isolation #93) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:21 pm

Dammit page tops!

Aubrey · Post Post #611 (isolation #94) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:07 pm

Ari.

Aubrey · Post Post #615 (isolation #95) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:10 pm

Get caught up. then comment.

Aubrey · Post Post #618 (isolation #96) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:29 pm

Post 385 - 392

This is the interaction between Transcend and MariaR when her bandwagon is at it's highest. I assume you switched your vote onto me due to town reading MariaR after her suicidal cries and being put at L1/L2. Now you're scum reading Gamma who has replaced MariaR. What is the thought process here? I'm not following.

Furthermore if you did not town read MariaR after her suicidal attempt, then why in the hell did you switch off of someone you scum-read?

Aubrey · Post Post #620 (isolation #97) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:46 pm

In post 604, Creature wrote:Because you could be scum wanting to stay under the radar.

I seriously think the dude just got busy btw. He is still a big fat null, and arguably one of the easiest slots to throw a vote at.

plz visit my post 464. I still consider this valid.

Aubrey · Post Post #621 (isolation #98) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:47 pm

In post 619, Gamma Emerald wrote:Aubrey-Transcend scumteam

This is the most disgusting read of the game.

Aubrey · Post Post #623 (isolation #99) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:51 pm

how?

Aubrey · Post Post #630 (isolation #100) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:09 am

In post 624, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 397, Transcend wrote:Are you really convincing the person you're voting right now to vote someone you're not voting?

In post 398, Aubrey wrote:I'm fine if either of you die right now. I'd much rather see you dead though.
Post 1 makes me think Aubrey is scum, as scum would vote town while bussing their buddy. Post 2 is CogDis overload.

If I was not a fan of either slot at the time, what's wrong with pushing both? Furthermore I've been pushing against Transcend pretty much this whole game. Look at post 407. Do you still think this is scum pushing scum? Further why would both scum join an easy lynch, then turn tail against each other at the bandwagons apex? Put some sense into this read of yours.

Aubrey · Post Post #631 (isolation #101) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:12 am

In post 626, Transcend wrote:I'd just like to point out the aris wagon still sucks lol.

Holy butt monkeys riding a unicycle batman. We agree on something!

Aubrey · Post Post #632 (isolation #102) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:23 am

Gamma has a small town lean from me.

Aubrey · Post Post #637 (isolation #103) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:24 am

I've been opposed to the votes on Ari for a good bit now...

Aubrey · Post Post #638 (isolation #104) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:34 am

In post 634, tojam2 wrote:Got to p.23, realised that most of the discussion was about the use of an acronym and skipped to here. And you say I'm the one who posts crap.

....do you not have something better to say at this point? Like why are you still not voting anybody? Or pushing anybody at that. This just seems like pointless activity filler.

Aubrey · Post Post #640 (isolation #105) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:07 am

SHNAP SON!

Aubrey · Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:25 am

In post 644, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 630, Aubrey wrote:
In post 624, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 397, Transcend wrote:Are you really convincing the person you're voting right now to vote someone you're not voting?

In post 398, Aubrey wrote:I'm fine if either of you die right now. I'd much rather see you dead though.
Post 1 makes me think Aubrey is scum, as scum would vote town while bussing their buddy. Post 2 is CogDis overload.
If I was not a fan of either slot at the time, what's wrong with pushing both? Furthermore I've been pushing against Transcend pretty much this whole game. Look at post 407. Do you still think this is scum pushing scum? Further why would both scum join an easy lynch, then turn tail against each other at the bandwagons apex? Put some sense into this read of yours.
In post 2, you said you would much rather see Transcend dead.
And yet you were voting MariaR.
Actions =/= words.

Yet who was I voting before hand and afterwards? Also consider at the time, NOBODY was even considering voting him. People were considering Maria. I didnt like Maria at the time. 1 + 1 =2. Pigs put on Jet packs and can fly. Come on now bud.

Aubrey · Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:30 am

I'm thinking about moving my vote off of Transcend. I'm still not hunky dory with him, but CLEARLY nobody else (other than Gamma with his poor read on me) thinks ill of him. Not to mention he is spatting out some things that are kinda, KINDA, following my line of thinking. I'll probably place a vote later tonight when I go through some ISO's.

@ Transcend.

Aubrey · Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:02 am

I like the fact that Gamma is/was trying to push something that didnt look easy to do. (Does that makes sense?) As scum it would be so much easier to throw one's vote on someone like Ari or some other easy slot that isn't doing a hell of a lot of work to make themselves look good.

People were scum-reading Maria (and him) so it would be better to try and follow the general metaphorical "current" of the town in order to help make the slot look better. Instead this dude be fighting the current! (Current as in flowing river). I kinda like this. He isn't trying to look good and then put his head under a rock.

I hope this makes sense.

Aubrey · Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:04 am

In post 668, Creature wrote:Wow we're stuck good.

???

Aubrey · Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:51 am

In post 675, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 477, Transcend wrote:VOTE: mhsmith0

You know why.
What was up with this?

Another joke.

Aubrey · Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:24 pm

So I know a lot of people are liking SAJ (and even I liked his earlier posts) but I feel as if he has pretty much been playing under the radar...

Aubrey · Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:27 pm

In post 679, Gamma Emerald wrote:A quick skim of his play suggests he's newb!town (even with his experience)

...and?

Aubrey · Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:56 pm

In post 681, Gamma Emerald wrote:And I don't think he's been flying under the radar, he seems to be trying to be proactive.
He's a decent townread for me.

BS

the only posts that COULD seem townie to me are

post 298
post 355

everything else is not helping the town at all, and is frankly pointless gibber gabber. Let me dive deep into the TWO posts that seem okay, but are not great.

298: He is keeping his options open with Ari and Maria, and votes Transcend. All of these places are super easy for scum to throw a vote on, and could very well come from scum. Yes it's nice he isn't voting Ari THE EASIEST SPOT TO VOTE, but notice how he can easily switch the vote over to him instead of leaving him at a null. Maria was also a easy slot to say "

I'm not trusting of this slot and may vote later.

" Maria hadn't done much at all, and was another slot that probably should have remained a null. Whatever. Early Transcend was also another easy slot to vote for to be honest. Most of the people voting him were voting him due to not liking his

jolly good nature

and not really for scum reasons. "

Your pissing people off so I'ma vote for you and also it isn't helping town!

" <--- Cause scum couldn't write that...

335: For whatever reason he has unvoted Transcend. Why? I don't know or remember. hmm. He then votes Tojam, without reason. This is another spot that is kinda easy for scum to vote. Granted ONCE AGAIN this spot hasn't done shit to help itself. Shugs* All that being said, why would Toejam offer his life when Maria is getting shat on for doing it by me, and when he really isn't under fire at that given time? Yes the lil guy has 2 voters on his ass, but is that enough to really attempt the damsel in distress play as scum? Unlikely. Reads more like a lazy townie. Could totally be wrong here, but that is what it reads as to me.

Needless to say, Yea earlier in the game I though SAJ was okay. Now I'm not exactly impressed with the slot and would like more out of him. He said he was lurking because he didnt want to post fluff, but I haven't seen a hell of a lot, and he just posted a really fluffy post. Gimme a break.

Aubrey · Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:58 pm

In post 681, Gamma Emerald wrote:And I don't think he's been flying under the radar, he seems to be trying to be proactive.
He's a decent townread for me.

Now let me question you good sir. Where exactly are you seeing him as trying to be proactive?

Aubrey · Post Post #686 (isolation #115) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:12 pm

In post 685, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 684, Aubrey wrote:
In post 681, Gamma Emerald wrote:And I don't think he's been flying under the radar, he seems to be trying to be proactive.
He's a decent townread for me.
Now let me question you good sir. Where exactly are you seeing him as trying to be proactive?
I think that may have been the wrong word actually, I like the way he is progressing, I tried to sum it up in one word and I think I failed. It's just, his posts seem to have really brought some eyes to him and I don't get how you can say "flying under the radar" with that.

excuse me, I only see two posts with POSSIBLE townie content in them, and not a hell of a lot of content or ideas in those posts either. Everything else is not progressing the town further. Not in my eyes at least. Being able to do that is flying under the radar in my books. Maybe I'm using the wrong phrase, but this is what i mean.

Flying under the radar.

(Aubrey's meaning): player is seen, but not doing much of anything to progress the game further.

Aubrey · Post Post #687 (isolation #116) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:13 pm

If I have happened to be miss some grand statement that he has said that earns him undeniable townie credit, enlighten me. So far, I'm not seeing it.

Aubrey · Post Post #689 (isolation #117) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:30 pm

Well Gamma. I don't know how to argue against that one, or how to consider that in my read...

I'm not good with tonal reads.

Aubrey · Post Post #691 (isolation #118) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:49 pm

In post 690, Secret Agent Jin wrote:Let me repeat it again Aubrey, please ask me anything you feel, i am open. As far as the post i tyoed previously, it was a joke and sarcastic. If you looked closer at my 22 or so posts then you would see some are addressing and defending my experience in this type of medium. I admit that some are not game related, like my two or so posts addressing Transcend's soft bullying.

Regarding my listing of supposed scum, they have changed a slight bit. I did suspect Maria but later changed that because i noticed she was stressed and that could have been part of the reason she read like she did to me.
Transcend has since proved that he usually posts like he has been, trolly and agitating, and that is no reason to FOS him.
Tojam has not convinced me that he is a townread as his posts seem to be useless IMO.
Lastly, Ari has been on V/LA and when he has posted it has been barely anything substantial, for that i am not leaning one way or another on him. I will say that he needs to post something soon since it would be easy to just act V/LA and surf easily through the first day. If it continues then he would seem highly suspicious.

I am sorry you feel the way you do about me, if there is anything that would change your view on me, let me know, i would be happy to give you whatever it is.

Afterthought: Its hard to keep finding things to talk about when the day phase is 2 weeks long. After awhile the posts grow stale and boring. My outlook is that if we went through a night phase then we could base things off of what happened during the night. During Day 1 nothing happened so we are literally just pointing fingers for the fun of it, there is no evidence against anyone. Its just all "your post doesnt fit the standard outline, FOS".

I mean, you have done so much that has left me with so many questions to ask you.

Like seriously, I want action out of you. Most, not some, of your posts have been blah. I shouldn't only have 2 posts to really judge you on. You don't read proactive, you read stale. I shouldn't have to call you out in order to understand your reads a bit further. This idea of "

well there is nothing to do on day one without a kill

" is crap. If town doesn't do much at all, scum will likely make a kill that doesn't give the town really anything to work off of. Furthermore, the more active a town is, it makes it harder for scum to lurk in general. One of the worse things right now is how unactive so many of our slots are.

Aubrey · Post Post #692 (isolation #119) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:02 pm

Wait a damn minute!!!!!

I do have a question. I just brought forward thoughts that supported Toejam maybe being a possible townie. You never commented on that. Thoughts?

Aubrey · Post Post #694 (isolation #120) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:32 pm

Because I have a reason to believe Toejam maybe town?

Aubrey · Post Post #695 (isolation #121) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:43 pm

shit, I missed the last two sentences to your response Odd. Sorry. That still doesn't address what I brought forward for Toejam.

Aubrey · Post Post #697 (isolation #122) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:56 pm

plz read his ISO. It isn't long.

Aubrey · Post Post #698 (isolation #123) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:58 pm

In post 417, tojam2 wrote:Looking at p.15, I'm the most unreadable player right now, either conftown or lynchee. That probably puts own in a better place to lynch me day 1, so stuff starts clearing up, if we get to the last day I will self-vote, even if it's hammer.

^^^^

Aubrey · Post Post #700 (isolation #124) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:16 pm

I'm just saying he is an easy slot to vote for without putting one's head out on the line very much. Seems like a good place for scum to vote irregardless of Toe's alignment. If I thought 1 of my scum buddies was easy lynchbait for day one, I'd totally be on him. Just like Ari. Ultimately I'd be fine with lynching Toe out of the game if he continues to play like he is. I know Ari is capable of producing content when the guy is around. Toe on the other hand, is a different story for me as of right now since he is around and hasn't really done so.

Aubrey · Post Post #703 (isolation #125) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:40 pm

My current player read list I have.

1) Transcend: Scum Lean?
2) Creature: Null Town Lean?
3) Burgerking: Null scum lean
4)

Aristophanes

: Null
5) BK201: Null scum lean
6) sad1492: Null town lean, but willing to lynch
7)

MariaR

Gamma: town lean
8) Aubrey
9)

MiniDeathStar

mhsmith: Null Null Town Lean
10) oddmusic: town lean
11) Secret Agent Jin: Null scum lean
12) doomfeathers: Null scum lean
13) tojam2: Null but willing to lynch (The smallest of small town leans. Smaller than the world's tiniest violin.)

If Null is before town or scum lean, then it just means its a weaker read that a flat out town/scum lean.

? means I'm a bit perplexed as to why I feel the way I do, but I do.

This list literally changes daily. Usually multiple times at that.

Aubrey · Post Post #704 (isolation #126) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:41 pm

In post 701, Aristophanes wrote:I can't do this game. I'm really sorry Io. I looked very forward to this, but I just can't play properly with my current state. I really wanted to avoid this, but I can't see how I can.

So I'm really really sorry all, and good luck to my replacement.

/replace out

:< I really was looking forward to playing with you again.

Aubrey · Post Post #708 (isolation #127) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:25 pm

Why is Ari a scum lean still? It is obvious the dude was busy and couldn't commit to the game. The spot should be null.

Aubrey · Post Post #711 (isolation #128) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:00 pm

In post 710, BK201 wrote:VOTE: Burgerking

Maybe I was wrong about Ari, doesn't clear him but I'm second-guessing myself now. Haven't read yet but saw Ari replacing so give me while I catch up.

Ari, hope everything works out for you.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but you were scum reading Ari while he was around for not voting. Not exactly because of his absence. All of a sudden he replaces out and you have to reassess the slot?

Aubrey · Post Post #716 (isolation #129) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:55 am

Hmm interesting. We could rule the world, enslave humanity, and look cute while doing it. Sadly I still have the smallest bit of doubt regarding BK, and I'm officially fed up with Toe now. He is the most useless slot at this point, And I don't have much hope for him becoming any better as the game progresses either. He hasn't even given a single read beyond Trsnscend.

VOTE: Toejam

Aubrey · Post Post #720 (isolation #130) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:37 am

One familiar face leaves, and another joins.

Aubrey · Post Post #722 (isolation #131) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:15 am

He's given a reason for his vote ya know. It isn't exactly empty. I'm not extremely keen either on burger's vote for him in some aspects. Yes he shouldn't have been cute playing the "you know what you did" routine that all guys have experienced with their girlfriends or boyfriends, but he did finally answer. That being said I don't remember being really influenced by the other points. I even called burger out in 2 if the reasons, but it fell on def ears. I'm not sure about the creature mix up.

Toejam very well could be a mislynch, but if he is going to continue playing in this fashion, I see no need in keeping him around. He looks like a liability that could be easily lynched in the coming rounds when we have stronger reads. He could also be scum. How much longer are you willing to let him slide by without doing anything? This isn't like Ari where he physically isn't here to play or caught up. Toe is here. Toe is reading. Toe is doing nothing.

Aubrey · Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:03 am

@ SAJ. That picture is freak'n scary bro.

Aubrey · Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:54 pm

I'm not following here, regarding Smith...?

Aubrey · Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:58 pm

I've already talked with you about BK.

Aubrey · Post Post #765 (isolation #135) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:01 pm

post 722

Aubrey · Post Post #774 (isolation #136) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:50 pm

In post 767, Transcend wrote:Like I see maybe one minor scummy thing from tojam, and the rest of his game looks very genuine. Which is why I think some mafia have been softly pushing on him for the scapegoat. I'm leaning towards you NOT being one of those mafia anymore so I'm attempting to persuade you to go in other directions.

Okay...

sad1492
oddmusic,
Secret Agent Jin
Aubrey

FOS from Doom now Dunn.
Toejam (Self vote)
Smith Mentioned willing to lynch Toejam

This is the Toejam

wagon

so far not in order. Thoughts?

Aubrey · Post Post #778 (isolation #137) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:57 pm

JUST looking at the votes. This is the ari

wagon

.

doom (now Dunn),
Creature
oddmusic,
BK201

I'd include my vote, but it was an opening RVS vote and I've campaigned like a mad man for his slot to be read as null. I don't think I deserve to be on the list.

Aubrey · Post Post #782 (isolation #138) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:59 pm

DAMMIT MY POST GOT RUINED BY THE PAGES

@IO:

would you plz move what I wrote in post 778 into my previous post for organizational purposes? and plz change my names so they are accurate cause I'm a dumbass? Thanks!

Aubrey · Post Post #783 (isolation #139) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:02 pm

Fuck me again. I MEAN PLZ MOVE WHAT I WROTE IN POST 782.

I blame being sick as a dog right now.

Aubrey · Post Post #784 (isolation #140) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:03 pm

...i'm so done. DISREGARD 783. clearly I've lost my mind.

Aubrey · Post Post #787 (isolation #141) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:06 pm

@ IO. Fair enough.

I got Dunn and Flubber mixed up it seems.

Aubrey · Post Post #789 (isolation #142) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:10 pm

In post 774, Aubrey wrote:
In post 767, Transcend wrote:Like I see maybe one minor scummy thing from tojam, and the rest of his game looks very genuine. Which is why I think some mafia have been softly pushing on him for the scapegoat. I'm leaning towards you NOT being one of those mafia anymore so I'm attempting to persuade you to go in other directions.
Okay...

sad1492
oddmusic,
Secret Agent Jin
Aubrey

FOS from Doom now Flubber.
Toejam (Self vote)
Smith Mentioned willing to lynch Toejam

This is the Toejam
wagon
so far not in order. Thoughts?

In post 778, Aubrey wrote:JUST looking at the votes. This is the ari Now Dunn
wagon
.

doom (now Flubber),
Creature
oddmusic,
BK201

I'd include my vote, but it was an opening RVS vote and I've campaigned like a mad man for his slot to be read as null. I don't think I deserve to be on the list.

Fixed.

Nevermind IO

. Thanks Flubber. I swear I'm not an idiot. Just sick.

Aubrey · Post Post #790 (isolation #143) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:18 pm

I'ma step away from this game for a bit. Clearly I'm not in the right mind state to be of much worth tonight.

Aubrey · Post Post #816 (isolation #144) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:59 pm

In post 812, Dunnstral wrote:ok I've read through the majority of the game

Transcend is scummy

Maria/Gamma is scummy

Aubrey is scummy

VOTE: Aubrey

Okay?

Aubrey · Post Post #817 (isolation #145) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:02 pm

In post 806, Flubbernugget wrote:Gamma, I still suspect you for trying to create hostilities between me and Transcend. I don't think my comment to Transcend was as hostile as you implicitly portrayed it as. Would you like to respond?

Plz refresh my memory? I don't remember this.

Aubrey · Post Post #818 (isolation #146) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:04 pm

I agree with post 805 and 807.

Aubrey · Post Post #831 (isolation #147) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:23 am

Not a fan of Dun already.

Aubrey · Post Post #833 (isolation #148) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:39 am

I'm not a fan of anybody who can't explain why they vote the way they do.

Aubrey · Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:01 pm

In post 840, Dunnstral wrote:Aubrey is playing weird and i think he's scum

Best. Case. Ever.

Aubrey · Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:02 pm

Burger gets silver.

Aubrey · Post Post #856 (isolation #151) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:02 pm

In post 851, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 817, Aubrey wrote:
In post 806, Flubbernugget wrote:Gamma, I still suspect you for trying to create hostilities between me and Transcend. I don't think my comment to Transcend was as hostile as you implicitly portrayed it as. Would you like to respond?
Plz refresh my memory? I don't remember this.
772

Are you kidding me? Like holy hell even I was like "

DAAAAMMMMNNNN

" at your remark in post 771. That is no different than Gamma's remark, other than the fact that he posted it. What is with people this game and not being able to tell the stupid fluff remarks from real play. Sheesh. Lamest reason to suspect someone yet.

Minus Gamma himself not being able to understand a few of Transcends fluff votes. Holy. Crap.

Aubrey · Post Post #857 (isolation #152) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:04 pm

In post 852, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 850, Creature wrote:
In post 2, Io wrote:6 days, 16 hours, 39 minutes
What time is it? Time to start deciding a lynch
I've already decided it actually

Good luck? Your basing your read off meta, and you have only played with me once. What, were you expecting me to play ALL my games like some uptight try hard player with no flavor?

Aubrey · Post Post #858 (isolation #153) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:13 pm

Still cool with lynching Toe. I see nothing great from him, and would hate to see the scum keep him around knowing he won't be worth anything to the town. Sad's slot is looking better. I wouldn't be to upset with losing BK or Burger, but I don't know which one I'd rather see gone. Based off memory, BK at least seems more genuine. Is it a thing for scum to fake a mess up like he did during the BK vs. Burger debate? Needless to say, I didn't like either of their interactions when they squabbled. I'll relook at the ISO's. Don't care for Dun, but that is probably due to a bit of a bias on my end. Doom didn't do much for me, and Flubbers FOS on Gamma is poor. Haven't decided how strongly I feel about that slot. MY PARTNER IN CRIME still gives me goosebumps for some reason, but I don't see him getting lynched today.

Thats how I feel right now.

Aubrey · Post Post #859 (isolation #154) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:16 pm

PS: where the hell did Smith go?

Aubrey · Post Post #871 (isolation #155) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:52 pm

In post 863, oddmusic wrote:
In post 828, sad1492 wrote:Just a reminder we have already played this game for a week.
Also Doom replaced out good luck bruh
VOTE: tojam although you're not my strongest scumread I'd like some pressure on you

In post 835, tojam2 wrote:Sad, that's not pressure. I actually see voting for pressure as scummy seen as it never actually works.
This reads scum vs. scum to me. Sad finds a very weak reason to vote his scumbuddy who is currently the leading wagon (I think?). Tojam points it out, which is odd because tojam has barely bothered to actually defend himself at all this game.

And on a side note, voting for pressure is not scummy. Claiming to be voting for pressure before the target has had a chance to react is scummy because the target knows its not genuine and it's basically just an excuse to jump on the leading wagon.

Interesting. but if this is true, wouldn't Toe vote him in order to create even more distance between the slots? Again interesting thought, but I don't know how likely it is. Then again, Toe seems to refuse to vote period unless it is on himself.

Aubrey · Post Post #875 (isolation #156) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:55 pm

My previous post only regards the first part of Odd's read, the bottom part IDK. Saying "

I'm voting you to add additional pressure

" doesnt seem exactly scummy to me, but I do aggree it's an easy way to hop on a wagon.

Aubrey · Post Post #878 (isolation #157) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:02 pm

@ODD:

It doesn't have to be pre talked about though. I'm scum, and my scum buddy votes me. Clearly he is distancing the slots. No words need to pass. From there either I could ignore it and move on, or fight it in order to create more distance. In this instance (since he says what Sad did was scummy to him) one would think he would vote to maximize the distancing, no?

I'm not saying your wrong, and I totally get where you coming from, but I'm skeptical.

Aubrey · Post Post #880 (isolation #158) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:08 pm

This does raise a good question, why in the hell is Toe not voting anybody?

@ODD:

Eh. Kinda pointless to debate this until one of them flip I suppose.

Aubrey · Post Post #881 (isolation #159) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:09 pm

In post 880, Aubrey wrote:This does raise a good question, why in the hell is Toe not voting anybody?

@
ODD
GAMMA:

Eh. Kinda pointless to debate this until one of them flip I suppose.

Fixed. Got Gamma and Odd mixed.

Aubrey · Post Post #884 (isolation #160) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:36 pm

Omg I've been imaging an e after the o in his name the whole time! Apologies.

Aubrey · Post Post #893 (isolation #161) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:12 am

Aubrey · Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:13 pm

Where did I say Gamma was scum?

Aubrey · Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:20 pm

In post 924, Transcend wrote:
All of
Aubrey's
Transcend's votes feel tactical as opposed to genuine as in he's chessing everyone.

Fixed!

Aubrey · Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:24 pm

Post 919 is kinda out there though. I give you that. Tojam has been useless all game. How is it that he is all of a sudden distracting from the Transcend lynch possibility? Not that there ever was much of a chance of a Transcend lynch possibility since everyone just loves them some Transcend it seems. Throw out a few reads and votes and you instantly townread. Gotta love it.

Aubrey · Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:25 pm

Your*

Aubrey · Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:53 pm

Let me ask you all one big question. Would scum bring forward such outlandish scenarios? Like seriously. Talk about sticking your head out there.

The Tojam and Transcend scum buddy possibility based on Tojam playing useless in order to keep votes off Transcend? Crazy. They could be scum, but I doubt this is the intended plan should they be. Scum driven by Gamma? Eh. One could argue that he is trying to cause further suspicion onto the Tojam slot in order to save his ass, but I'm gearing it more towards Town!Gamma trying to figure the game out.

The Aubrey and Transcend scum buddy possibility due to the Maria incident. Crazy. Wrong. Scum driven? doubtful. Again reads as Town!Gamma trying to figure the game out. The two of us (Aub and Tran) at the time where not being highly scum read, so it doesn't make sense for scum to try and drive a wagon on at that point. I'd see scum aiming for easier targets, lurking to a degree, or trying to gain townie points where ever possible.

The bitch-fit over gender. I consider NAI.

Defends both Ari and SAJ. hmm. Both seem like easy places to either vote or encourage votes to land on, Instead he defends them. I like this out of Gamma. I can see the argument for scum gamma in doing so, but for now I like it. I see these actions more likely to come from town than scum.

Overall I have him in a town lean. He's putting himself out there (even if his reads are lacking in my eyes). If you want me to vote him so badly, Sell me on it. So far, I'm not sold.

I'm pretty sure I've said all before in a shortened version.

Aubrey · Post Post #933 (isolation #167) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:22 pm

In post 924, Transcend wrote:
Yeah. Aubrey could be scum pushing this tojam mislynch way too hard.

He's said that Gamma has been scummy.

But has he ever voted him?

NO.

All of Aubrey's votes feel tactical as opposed to genuine as in he's chessing everyone.

Wait a got dam MINUTE.

Transcend are you literally trying to fake a mis-read as scum in the hopes I town read you for it since I was wavering on my personal BK read due to him having to reconsider his read on Burger which was based upon his misread of a post from Creature instead of Burger?

You're seriously not helping my icky vibes against you.

Aubrey · Post Post #934 (isolation #168) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:24 pm

In post 858, Aubrey wrote:BK at least seems more genuine. Is it a thing for scum to fake a mess up like he did during the BK vs. Burger debate?

For reference regarding what I just wrote above

Aubrey · Post Post #957 (isolation #169) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:22 pm

And Transcend completely ignores what I have said.

Sure.

VOTE: Transcend

Aubrey · Post Post #962 (isolation #170) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:28 pm

In post 961, Transcend wrote:honestly, wagonomics suggest they're not a team but i know me, and i know that when i get close to solving the game, scum pile on me asap when they get the chance.

The ego in this one is strong. Just as strong as the scum vibes that I sense radiating off of him.

Aubrey · Post Post #964 (isolation #171) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:35 pm

In post 958, Transcend wrote: aubrey openly called your 919 garbage for about 2 seconds then moved on to pursue other mislynches.

I said I didn't follow his line of thinking, I also brought forward reasons for having a town lean on him from my POV. You are misrepresenting.

I also had sound reasons for voting Tojam even if people don't agree with them irregardless of his alignment. I mean his slot is basically having a lifeless limb attached to your body as far as I can tell that twitches every now and then. Nothing is more irritating than a slot that doesn't really commit to the game it seems.

Aubrey · Post Post #971 (isolation #172) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:42 pm

In post 968, Transcend wrote:
In post 964, Aubrey wrote:I also had SHITTY reasons for voting Tojam
ftfy

I hope people are smart enough to actually know you went in there and changed what I said in that quote to fit your own needs.

Aubrey · Post Post #975 (isolation #173) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:48 pm

Name calling isn't going to change much Gamma.

Aubrey · Post Post #977 (isolation #174) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:51 pm

Aubrey · Post Post #978 (isolation #175) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:51 pm

Why aren't you voting Transcend?

Aubrey · Post Post #981 (isolation #176) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:55 pm

Aubrey · Post Post #984 (isolation #177) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:56 pm

In post 982, Transcend wrote:VOTE: Aubrey

Just like old times.

Aubrey · Post Post #987 (isolation #178) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:09 am

Notice how Transcend never went back to find where I said gamma was scum. Why? Cause I didn't.

Aubrey · Post Post #988 (isolation #179) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:11 am

regarding Dunn, we've played a single game together. I was town.

Aubrey · Post Post #989 (isolation #180) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:16 am

Death note, Kira and L?

Aubrey · Post Post #990 (isolation #181) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:32 am

Lastly notice how Transcend never tries to sell me onto the gamma wagon, and never tries to refute anything that I brought forward for Gamma. Instead he just ties me and smith to gamma and carries on his merry way. This isn't pro town what so ever. What it seems like to me is a scum trying to seem townie by trying to get townies not to vote for one player who is easy lynchbait (who could very well be scum) and vote for another.

Mhsmith says he doesn't remember Gamma being a derpy villager. While I wouldn't use those words, the one game I have played with gamma he did have some odd reads and made choices that ultimately led to him being townie lynchbait day one. Hence why I'm not as bothered by gamma.

Aubrey · Post Post #991 (isolation #182) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:59 am

On another note why would scum transcend try so hard to tie Smith and I to gamma. Is this a townie trying to actually figure out the game or is the scum hard busting his own partner on day one in order to earn stronger town credit and have townies take the fall post flip.

Aubrey · Post Post #992 (isolation #183) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:13 am

Actually In post 990, it actually doesn't make sense for scum Transcend to push for a link between smith gamma and I by trying to get the town to lynch gamma if he knows he is town. Instead the smarter scum play would be to say the lot of us are scummy to him, but not exactly sure if we are all connected so that he would have an out.

991 is the stronger possibility in attempting to assess his slot.

Aubrey · Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:35 pm

Bout time SAJ and Smith chimed in.

Aubrey · Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:08 pm

Aubrey · Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:03 pm

Gamma is at L1. Transcend was already voting him. Plz don't make posts like that Transcend.

Aubrey · Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:05 pm

Unless of course that vote for dum was real? In that case Gamma would be L2.

Aubrey · Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:06 pm

Aubrey · Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:37 am

GG
GG
GG
GG
GG

Aubrey · Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:14 am

I've always had a bit of an issue with "

omg I nailed all the scum or 2 scum blah blah blah.

" Like, I'm not going to take that away from people. Congratulations about finding the scum, but mafia is more than just you locating the scum. It's an argumentative and persuasive writing game as much as it is a detective game. You need to be able to do both ideally. If you can only do one of those while failing to do the other then...well...eh. Doesn't really matter as much then.

That being said, there are times in which you simply can't convince people and at that point it is on them. I doubt this is the case with Burger and the "

Hurr durr stupid town.

" I think the same could be applied to Transcend.

That's just my two cents though. My reads weren't that great this game sadly. Again, Congratulations to the scum.