Open 654 | Surrealism - Game over

[eagerSnake]

Someone fill me in on the important details of this game

[eagerSnake]

Pretend I can't go back and read anything.

[eagerSnake]

Quite a bit has occurred. What would you like to know most?

Really if I could just know who the scum is that would be great.

Or at least who some towns are.

[eagerSnake]

Cool. Let me know when you want him at L-1.

[eagerSnake]

Btd6 or vax is the partner of umlaut

[eagerSnake]

No just skimmed his ISO looking for buddy slips

[eagerSnake]

Also liking Mimi or Zach for Smart's partner.

[eagerSnake]

I swear people say that in every single game I'm in.

[eagerSnake]

OMG EAGER IS HERE! !!

I IS EXCITE!

Lol I bet you're happy to finally be on the same team as me

[eagerSnake]

VOTE: BTD6_maker

L-1

[eagerSnake]

If you continue to play buddy buddy I will lynch you

[eagerSnake]

Yeahup.

[eagerSnake]

So there is no counter claim to BTD?

VOTE: Vaxkiller

[eagerSnake]

I'm not sure what Zach and Yakko are trying to do cross-voting...

[eagerSnake]

Anyone else notice Aubrey has been on literally every wagon

[eagerSnake]

Here is everyone's numeric values based on how often they wagon:

Aubrey - 1.8
Aristophanes - 1.2
Dunnstral - 1.1
The_Jester - 0.6
Vaxkiller - 0.5
Mimikyu - 0.3
Yakko - 0.2
Zachstralkita - 0.0

[eagerSnake]

Revised values to include known scumflips in calculations (not sure if this matters in multiball):

Aubrey - 0.8
Aristophanes - 0.8
Dunnstral - 0.8
Vakiller - 0.5
Mimikyu - 0.3
Yakko - 0.2
The_Jester - 0.0
Zachstralkita - 0.0

[eagerSnake]

No they don't. Why wouldn't they claim a PR?

Because they automatically lose

[eagerSnake]

Analyze them how you want...

Here's the wagons:
D1

Gamma

Wagon ---

Ümläüt

,

BTD6_Maker

, Dunnstral, Aubrey, Aristophanes
D1 Dunnstral Wagon --- The_Jester,

Gamma Emerald

,

Ümläüt

,

Something_Smart

, Aubrey
D1

Gamma

Lynch ---

BTD6_Maker

, Dunnstral,

eagerSnake

,

Ümläüt

, Aristophanes, Aubrey,

Gamma Emerald

D2

BTD6_Maker

Wagon --- Vaxkiller, Aubrey, Aristophanes, Mimikyu,

eagerSnake

D2 Aristophanes Wagon --- Dunnstral, The_Jester, Aubrey, Vaxkiller, Yakko

[eagerSnake]

I mean the top 4 wagonners are on the Aristophanes wagon right now lol

[eagerSnake]

Zach has also abstained from all wagonning, and instead vanity votes elsewhere. What do you think that means?

[eagerSnake]

Well for one I don't see much credibility in the Aristophanes wagon. The people on it are shown to be the biggest wagoners in this game. None of them are confirmed town. 2 of them were involved in the Gamma (T) lynch, and 2 were involved in the BTD6 (T) wagon.

However, the Vaxkiller wagon has 2 people I know are town, one person who was on the Gamma (T) lynch, and one person who was on the BTD6 (T) wagon.

Just saying, Vax wagon has more credibility.

[eagerSnake]

This isn't Prisoner's Gambit

[eagerSnake]

Lol bussed Gamma

[eagerSnake]

Eager, you don't trust the people who voted Dunn, BTD, and Gamma, yet you don't seem bothered by Ari. Explain why.

I've played with Ari scum twice in a row I don't think he's scum this time

[eagerSnake]

I figure at least one of each scum faction would have been on Gamma lynch

[eagerSnake]

Meaning one of Aubrey, Aristophanes, Dunnstral is likely to be Something_Smart's partner

[eagerSnake]

Yeah Aubrey is less likely Something_Smart's partner because they also wagonned with Something_Smart on Dunnstral

Meaning Aristophanes, Dunnstral are most likely Something_Smart's partner

[eagerSnake]

Aubrey is correct that Dunnstral being voted close to lynch by both scum makes it less likely he is scum

[eagerSnake]

Waiting on a lynch

[eagerSnake]

Please?

[eagerSnake]

Both wagons have high chance of flipping scum I don't see the problem

[eagerSnake]

Zach r u voting Vaxkiller or what

[eagerSnake]

Here's the updated wagons if that's accurate:

D1

Gamma

Wagon ---

Ümläüt

,

BTD6_Maker

, Dunnstral, Aubrey,

Aristophanes

D1 Dunnstral Wagon ---

The_Jester

,

Gamma Emerald

,

Ümläüt

,

Something_Smart

, Aubrey
D1

Gamma

Lynch ---

BTD6_Maker

, Dunnstral,

eagerSnake

,

Ümläüt

,

Aristophanes

, Aubrey,

Gamma Emerald

D2

BTD6_Maker

Wagon ---

Vaxkiller

, Aubrey,

Aristophanes

, Mimikyu,

eagerSnake

D2

Aristophanes

Wagon --- Dunnstral,

The_Jester

, Aubrey,

Vaxkiller

, Yakko

D3

Aristophanes

Wagon --- Dunnstral,

Vaxkiller

, hi im Yakko, Aubrey
D3 hi im Yakko Wagon - Zachstralkita,

Vaxkiller

,

The_Jester

D3

Vaxkiller

Lynch ---

BTD6_Maker

,

eagerSnake

, Mimikyu,

Aristophanes

, hi im Yakko, Dunnstral

[eagerSnake]

VOTE: Aubrey

[eagerSnake]

It means he's not mafia..


Either Aristophanes, Dunnstral, or Aubrey is wolf

[eagerSnake]

I don't think wolf is Dunnstral because S_S voted Dunnstral close to lynch D1

So it's Aristophanes or Aubrey

[eagerSnake]

D1

Gamma

Wagon ---

Ümläüt

,

BTD6_Maker

, Dunnstral, Aubrey, Aristophanes
D1 Dunnstral Wagon ---

The_Jester

,

Gamma Emerald

,

Ümläüt

,

Something_Smart

, Aubrey
D1

Gamma

Lynch ---

BTD6_Maker

, Dunnstral,

eagerSnake

,

Ümläüt

, Aristophanes, Aubrey,

Gamma Emerald

'

This is how I narrowed it down to you 3 as wolf.

Dunnstral is unlikely wolf though because Something_Smart voted him close to lynch.

[eagerSnake]

So as you can see that leaves Aristophanes and Aubrey as the most likely wolves

[eagerSnake]

Nope

[eagerSnake]

I want to go ahead and clear Dunnstral having both mafia vote him close to lynch but I'm paranoid of doing that

If Dunnstral was hypothetically town this would be the wagon analysis:

Spoiler: hypothetical

D1

Gamma

Wagon ---

Ümläüt

,

BTD6_Maker

,

Dunnstral

, Aubrey, Aristophanes
D1

Dunnstral

Wagon ---

The_Jester

,

Gamma Emerald

,

Ümläüt

,

Something_Smart

, Aubrey
D1

Gamma

Lynch ---

BTD6_Maker

,

Dunnstral

,

eagerSnake

,

Ümläüt

, Aristophanes, Aubrey,

Gamma Emerald

---
D2

BTD6_Maker

Wagon ---

Vaxkiller

, Aubrey, Aristophanes, Mimikyu,

eagerSnake

D2 Aristophanes Wagon ---

Dunnstral

,

The_Jester

, Aubrey,

Vaxkiller

, Yakko
D2 Aristophanes Wagon ---

Dunnstral

,

Vaxkiller

, hi im Yakko, Aubrey
D2 hi im Yakko Wagon - Zachstralkita,

Vaxkiller

,

The_Jester

D2

Vaxkiller

Lynch ---

BTD6_Maker

,

eagerSnake

, Mimikyu, Aristophanes, hi im Yakko,

Dunnstral

So that's why I'm suspicious of Aristophanes and Aubrey and think we should lynch one of them today..

[eagerSnake]

nope

[eagerSnake]

If Aubrey flips green the most likely 2 scum are yakko (mafia) and Ari (wolf)

[eagerSnake]

The power of the VCA compels you

[eagerSnake]

Then it wouldn't be VCA it would be content analysis

[eagerSnake]

Aristophanes, I'd like your take on the wagon analysis

[eagerSnake]

Ya know what, let me look at the wagons myself and see what I can do.

Yeah, that is what I was suggesting... FYPOV, it should at the

very least

look like this:

Spoiler: Aristophanes' POV

D1

Gamma

Wagon ---

Ümläüt

,

BTD6_Maker

, Dunnstral, Aubrey,

Aristophanes

D1 Dunnstral Wagon ---

The_Jester

,

Gamma Emerald

,

Ümläüt

,

Something_Smart

, Aubrey
D1

Gamma

Lynch ---

BTD6_Maker

, Dunnstral, eagerSnake,

Ümläüt

,

Aristophanes

, Aubrey,

Gamma Emerald

D2

BTD6_Maker

Wagon ---

Vaxkiller

, Aubrey,

Aristophanes

, Mimikyu, eagerSnake
D2

Aristophanes

Wagon --- Dunnstral,

The_Jester

, Aubrey,

Vaxkiller

, Yakko
D2

Aristophanes

Wagon --- Dunnstral,

Vaxkiller

, hi im Yakko, Aubrey
D2 hi im Yakko Wagon --- Zachstralkita,

Vaxkiller

,

The_Jester

D2

Vaxkiller

Lynch ---

BTD6_Maker

, eagerSnake, Mimikyu,

Aristophanes

, hi im Yakko, Dunnstral

What do you make of this?

I suggest everyone to do this with these wagons I've provided tbh.

[eagerSnake]

Ari what did you learn from your wagon analysis

[eagerSnake]

Aubrey why am I scratched off both lists?

[eagerSnake]

VOTE: Aristophanes

Pending cc

[eagerSnake]

D1

Gamma

Wagon ---

Ümläüt

,

BTD6_Maker

, Dunnstral,

Aubrey

, Aristophanes
D1 Dunnstral Wagon ---

The_Jester

,

Gamma Emerald

,

Ümläüt

,

Something_Smart

,

Aubrey

D1

Gamma

Lynch ---

BTD6_Maker

, Dunnstral,

eagerSnake

,

Ümläüt

, Aristophanes,

Aubrey

,

Gamma Emerald

D2

BTD6_Maker

Wagon ---

Vaxkiller

,

Aubrey

, Aristophanes, Mimikyu,

eagerSnake

D2 Aristophanes Wagon --- Dunnstral,

The_Jester

,

Aubrey

,

Vaxkiller

, hi im Yakko
D2 Aristophanes Wagon --- Dunnstral,

Vaxkiller

, hi im Yakko,

Aubrey

D2 hi im Yakko Wagon - Zachstralkita,

Vaxkiller

,

The_Jester

D2

Vaxkiller

Lynch ---

BTD6_Maker

,

eagerSnake

, Mimikyu, Aristophanes, hi im Yakko, Dunnstral

Unless you think there were no wolves on the Gamma wagon/lynch that leaves Aristophanes/Dunnstral. Unless you believe that Something_Smart voted their partner close to lynch that leaves only Aristophanes.

[eagerSnake]

Yeah unless you're fakeclaiming for some reason lol

[eagerSnake]

But we have the same reads

[eagerSnake]

What time?

[eagerSnake]

I'm sorry I'm just finding it hard to believe that none of the wolves voted Gamma D1

[eagerSnake]

As a likely scum candidate

[eagerSnake]

Curious why Gamma hammered himself instead of making scum work for his lynch and making them do the hammer

[eagerSnake]

Yeah if they gave intent to vote I would put them on the wagon for analysis sake since Gamma hammered himself

[eagerSnake]

POE is a powerful tool in the town's arsenel.

[eagerSnake]

It shouldn't change your opinion of me at all.

Why should you being on the Gamma wagon not change my opinion of you? I'm quite apparently looking for the wolf that was on the wagon, so you being included on that wagon will obviously change my opinion of you.

[eagerSnake]

Well did you intend to vote Gamma or not?

[eagerSnake]

I usually don't respond to cases against me as town. I figure usually if I leave it alone long enough, some other townie will point out the flaw(s) better than I could have.

[eagerSnake]

I'm not a fucking werewolf!

What else is there to say!?

But whatever. Lynch me of you have to.

Try saying this after midnight. Oh wait; you can't.

[eagerSnake]

If Ari is scum why do you think he killed jester?

Like wtf kind of question is this anyway? How are we supposed to know? He could've used a rng for all we know or flipped a coin to decide

[eagerSnake]

That's purely speculation. 100%

[eagerSnake]

That's purely speculation. 100%

So is believing that a wolf has to be on the gamma lynch.

Uh, no. Historical percentage chance of an action. Not speculation.

[eagerSnake]

VOTE: Aristophanes

[eagerSnake]

Aristophanes is gonna flip

[eagerSnake]

Lies. I never said that.

[eagerSnake]

Yakko or mimikyu.. hmm..

[eagerSnake]

It's hard for me to imagine Zach or Eagersnake as scum... I think they're really towning it up this game

So either I'm wrong on one of them and have basically given them a free pass yesterday

Or I was wrong on Yakko

But either way, I think you're one of the scum

Ok well you do actually need to accept you were wrong on one of those people unless you are scum, so who is it?

Who do you think it is?

[eagerSnake]

In a way, I guess. I'm not sure I'm following your logic though. What's your conclusion?

[eagerSnake]

The reason it's good for mafia is because

1) Mafia lives through the day
2) If we lynched someone else then the tracker would have 1 less option to target, giving him more chance to track mafia
3) He was already cleared of being mafia

But what's the conclusion?

[eagerSnake]

Well it's not me lol

[eagerSnake]

Lol I already stated days ago why I'm not considering you

And yes, I think they both could be scum, but I said "or" because I can't lynch Yakko AND mimikyu today..

As far as Zach goes I haven't really looked into it at all I've been busy with my other reads

[eagerSnake]

Yakko or mimikyu.. hmm..

First of all: Why aren't you considering Zach or Me?

Second, shouldn't that be Yakko AND mimikyu? You only think one of them is scum, but don't seem to be considering Zach or Me. Maybe because you're scum yourself?

I do actually like where you're going with this, and it's not just because you unvoted me.

Bullshit.

VOTE: Mimikyu

[eagerSnake]

Yakko or mimikyu.. hmm..

First of all: Why aren't you considering Zach or Me?

Second, shouldn't that be Yakko AND mimikyu? You only think one of them is scum, but don't seem to be considering Zach or Me. Maybe because you're scum yourself?

I do actually like where you're going with this, and it's not just because you unvoted me.

Bullshit.

VOTE: Mimikyu

[eagerSnake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaA1HrGNnwg

How the hell do I embed this

[eagerSnake]

Nope that's what scum would call it though

[eagerSnake]

it'd be pretty hard for me to push him today. Still think he is scum. Eager seems much more likely than you thought now after your comments and my read-through of him.

"I'm not going to push his lynch if it's hard and I might get flak for it, even though I think he's scum. Eager seems like an easier target to mislynch since you scumread him plus I won't be the person pushing the wagon, you will be"

[eagerSnake]

Lol @ calling it a misrepresentation. It's what you said.

[eagerSnake]

Because he latched onto eager when it became an option

He's not voting yakko.

I'm not voting Yakko because it's clear the work that would need to be put in to try and overcoming the current sentiment toward a Yakko lynch. Work that requires time I don't have.

???

[eagerSnake]

So you're not voting Yakko because I'm less effort to lynch, yet you're the only person voting me and Yakko is being voted by Zach

[eagerSnake]

AtE much

[eagerSnake]

Back

[eagerSnake]

I'm actually town Zachra

[eagerSnake]

Why do you seem demoralized? I'm glad Dunnstral was killed, I would've never suspected him...

[eagerSnake]

okay well I'm not sure which of you are scum yet

I don't like Zulfy's 1922, 1923, 1925 looks like he's trying hard to look town

I don't like Zach's posts either it looks like he's being too careful feels fake

So.. tough decision

[eagerSnake]

Why do I have to try again? Obviously you don't know who is scum either or you'd be voting right? So why do I have to know?

Hypocrite

[eagerSnake]

Right.. not the whole game but this day you have been careful.. just not sure if it's normal townie lylo careful or scum lylo overcareful

[eagerSnake]

looks to me like Zulfsy is blowing in the wind

[eagerSnake]

I don't believe you

[eagerSnake]

Why is it fine? do you think I'm the scum?

[eagerSnake]

Well one of you is trying to figure it out and the other one is coasting

i'm just not sure which of you is doing which yet

[eagerSnake]

Zechariah are you legitimately trying to solve this or just faking it?

[eagerSnake]

VOTE: ZULFY

I'm sufficiently convinced

[eagerSnake]

Awesome

[eagerSnake]

Lol yeah I take credit for this loss I was wrong about literally everything

[eagerSnake]

I wrote him off early bc he was voted close to Lynch d1 by both scum teams