Open 664 - Tit for Tat (Mafia Wins)
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Attract and Roll Out were a bitch.In post 18, Aubrey wrote:<.<
Dude, I have nightmares from Whitney's Milk Tank kicking my buttocks. How about a scyther?-
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Nah he's top 10.In post 21, Alisae wrote:
I thought that was TranscendIn post 20, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Oh man, it's Kain! Easily the funniest poster on the site-
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I'm waiting on a game to finish to update it.In post 28, Crystalline Dagger wrote:
Why's he not on your list then?In post 20, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Oh man, it's Kain! Easily the funniest poster on the site-
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Calling Gengar!In post 34, Crystalline Dagger wrote:
PidgeottoIn post 31, Aubrey wrote:Okay so we have 2 of Johto's main gym leader pokemon as avatars, WHO IS GONNA BE A PIDGEOT, GENGAR, DRAGONAIR or STELIX? and whatever else there was. Gotta complete this before shit gets real.
Scyther
Miltank
Gengar
Primeape
Steelix
Piloswine
Dragonair
NERD IT UP!
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Stop being silly babeIn post 57, Alisae wrote:
Uzi you never responded to this.In post 24, Alisae wrote:
When you rollout your RVS votes you attract me.In post 22, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Attract and Roll Out were a bitch.
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And with what looks like the first serious vote casted, RVS is now officially over.
UNVOTE:
Why is Alisae your top SR?In post 88, Hawk wrote:Early reads are still a little rough since alot of these feels like nonsense to me. But serious vote.
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Understandable. RVS is usually like that until things get serious. It can be more of pain to shift through during a reread than distracting.In post 91, Hawk wrote:
Wanting to elicit a reaction. Plus post #73. Never played with him and not sure if all the small talk isn't diverting. Feeling people out.In post 89, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:And with what looks like the first serious vote casted, RVS is now officially over.
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Why is Alisae your top SR?In post 88, Hawk wrote:Early reads are still a little rough since alot of these feels like nonsense to me. But serious vote.
VOTE: Alisae
So like probadly more a soft read than anything else.
As for Alisae's play, I think she's being herself for the most part. The self-vote, the attempt to rolefish in 73, and the pretending to not what know Pokémon is only brought unnecessary attention to herself. Something scum don't want.-
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I didn't get that vibe at all to be honest, especially after he explained how he came to them in 116. I can see why you feel that way though based on his read on Aelin.In post 130, Alisae wrote:
To me some of those reads feel forced tho. I can't put my hand on it, but they seem off to me.In post 129, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Nothing is wrong with having reads this early as long as they aren't solid and you're willing to change them.-
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Nah this is legit how he plays. A bit worrying from what I heard though since he kind of uses this to his advantage to get out of sticky situations when he rolls scum.In post 141, Aelin wrote:Does Kain ever play seriously in a game or is he just no. 1 troll?-
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I've heard things and did some research. Pretty self-explanatory.In post 143, Crystalline Dagger wrote:
How do you know this?In post 142, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Nah this is legit how he plays. A bit worrying from what I heard though since he kind of uses this to his advantage to get out of sticky situations when he rolls scum.In post 141, Aelin wrote:Does Kain ever play seriously in a game or is he just no. 1 troll?
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HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS????????
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It mainly bothered me because out of all the reads you presented, she was one of two reads I disagreed with because of her entrance. While my gut didn't feel her awkwardness in 64 and 65 was scummy, it didn't read as town at all to me so I was wondering how you could be leaning null-town on her. I'm feeling a little better about your read though based on her comment on KT's play in 141. I feel if she was scum, she would have tried to start to a wagon on him there.In post 155, Hawk wrote:Aubrey and Spade: Self-vote in RVS from Alisae to me is an engage me vote not nesscarily null. IME it's often town looking to start ppl talking, accidentally start a wagon, or in general just be different and standout during RVS. So I engaged wanting to see what he had to say.
131 Vert why does my Aelin read bother you? Null/town or null/scum are like the softest of leans.
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124 2 things.
1. Specifically why don't you like my read list in 116? It's a soft read list. I clarify that later.
2. I'm glad someone else called out Alisae cause that felt horribly like a trap since it's a big pool of circular logic and opinions till people flip.
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What about the dump didn't you like? Please elaborate more.
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Don't like this logic. Just because I agree with someone's logic and point to it as a simple explanation for why I lean one way does not discount my read. Not going to pressure your reads? What reads? You posted once before that. Scum reading this. Still thinking you're Scummy.
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EBWOP.In post 166, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
It mainly bothered me because out of all the reads you presented, she was one of two reads I disagreed with because of her entrance. While my gut didn't feel her awkwardness in 64 and 65 was scummy, it didn't read as town at all to me so I was wondering how you could be leaning null-town on her. I'm feeling a little better about your read though based on her comment on KT's play in 141. I feel if she was scum, she would have tried to start a wagon on him there.In post 155, Hawk wrote:Aubrey and Spade: Self-vote in RVS from Alisae to me is an engage me vote not nesscarily null. IME it's often town looking to start ppl talking, accidentally start a wagon, or in general just be different and standout during RVS. So I engaged wanting to see what he had to say.
131 Vert why does my Aelin read bother you? Null/town or null/scum are like the softest of leans.
Mala:
124 2 things.
1. Specifically why don't you like my read list in 116? It's a soft read list. I clarify that later.
2. I'm glad someone else called out Alisae cause that felt horribly like a trap since it's a big pool of circular logic and opinions till people flip.
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What about the dump didn't you like? Please elaborate more.
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Don't like this logic. Just because I agree with someone's logic and point to it as a simple explanation for why I lean one way does not discount my read. Not going to pressure your reads? What reads? You posted once before that. Scum reading this. Still thinking you're Scummy.
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What does the bolded mean?In post 172, KainTepes wrote:INNOCENT VILLAGOR IS LURKING;;
lynch all the people who arewashing water,, then eventually we will get the scumz-
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I was hoping you would've pointed to specific posts but I understand.In post 201, Alisae wrote:
I dunnow what is.In post 199, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:What's so confusing about Hawk?
I keep on thinking he's scum.
Then I think he's town.
Then I think he's scum.
I dunno ;~;
I'm currently feeling that way with one player in this game so far and it's so frustrating because I want to TR them based on reputation-
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Don't worry babe, you're a fine member of this townIn post 204, Alisae wrote:Bae, if you think I'm scum then don't go all passive on me.\
Tho don't go to agro, you'll hurt my feelings.
And I'll cry.
And I'll never.
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Could you link a town game of his? I just skimmed his ISO in the game you just linked and I oddly feel I can tell the difference between his scum and town game as hard as that may be to believe.In post 207, Kop wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=65370
That game Kain was scum. Just with the less capitals.
Honestly the only way I'd be able to answer you is if I were to lie. I'm just not feeling strongly about anyone for scum yet.In post 210, Aubrey wrote:I don't know how much I'll be around today. Happy holidays! I expect activity to be down tomorrow and today. I'd like to see more votes being cast, and not just talk.
Mr. LUV... if you had to place a vote, where would it go? My gut isn't pleased by you so far.-
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Thanks KT!
So Kain as scum pushes things that are more NAI like activity and uses a lot of ATE. More than most people think he does. He also uses the "If I was scum, why would I _____?" excuse which is always a scum tell in my book.
As town, he actually pushes things that are scummy. In a town game he just linked, I recall him voting someone for attempting to rolefish and putting pressure on someone for ignoring him and not his answering questions. He also asks questions that seem to move the game forward.
Of course, this is off a 10 minute skim so should probably be taken with a grain of a salt.-
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Thought it was a cultural thing.In post 243, Crystalline Dagger wrote:This clarification brings nothing to the game but i cant keep watching kain say washing water, its treading water. Treading....Water....-
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Yeah, but mostly off of gut as opposed to meta this time around.In post 250, Crystalline Dagger wrote:
Its not relevant to progressing the game so i rather not keep posting about it, i shouldn't have even mentioned it. Anyways, it reads like you dont townread KT but you said you wish there was a cop to clear KT. So, just so its clear, do you town read KT?In post 247, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Thought it was a cultural thing.In post 243, Crystalline Dagger wrote:This clarification brings nothing to the game but i cant keep watching kain say washing water, its treading water. Treading....Water....-
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Transcend's a cool dog. Give him another chance.In post 266, Crystalline Dagger wrote:
The last game i played with him he soft claimed the lead mafia role, self hammered when he was at L-1, and flipped some type of town PR like watcher or tracker. I wont play another game with him personally.In post 256, innocentvillager wrote:
lolIn post 225, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Listen, Transcend is in a class with some players like Kain Tepes that we called the "WTF zone". They break the mold and are uncontrollable. IV is not one of these.
i promise, i am no transcend
i think i my most recent game he deathtunneled me with zero reasoning and lost us the game -_--
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None. Is there a problem?In post 286, Spade_Ace wrote:
What is the relevance of a discussion on a player who is not involved in this game???In post 269, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Transcend's a cool dog. Give him another chance.In post 266, Crystalline Dagger wrote:
The last game i played with him he soft claimed the lead mafia role, self hammered when he was at L-1, and flipped some type of town PR like watcher or tracker. I wont play another game with him personally.In post 256, innocentvillager wrote:
lolIn post 225, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Listen, Transcend is in a class with some players like Kain Tepes that we called the "WTF zone". They break the mold and are uncontrollable. IV is not one of these.
i promise, i am no transcend
i think i my most recent game he deathtunneled me with zero reasoning and lost us the game -_--
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Then you take note, question, and go from there.In post 296, Alisae wrote:
scumtells or towntells?In post 288, KainTepes wrote:
you're only making associative tells.... do you have any INDIVIDUAL tells to contribute?In post 284, Alisae wrote:Hmm, Kain that's a good point, tho I could be thinking that you're vote on inno could be an early attempt at a bus.
But for now my vote goes here I guess
VOTE: Spade_Ace
And I do, but if I contribute the scumtells, people will avoid doing them.
If I contribute the towntells, scum will just do the towntells.
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Why aren't you voting for Spade then?
What are you trying to say here?
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I did and it is better but that doesn't mean it can compete with Aubrey'sIn post 384, Alisae wrote:YOU TOLD ME IN PMS THAT THIS ONE WAS BETTER THEN MY LAST ONE!
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It's complicated!In post 389, Alisae wrote:
IF MY OLD ONE CAN, AND YOU SAID THIS ONE IS BETTER THEN MY OLD ONE, THEN SHOULDN'T THIS ONE BE ABLE TO COMPETE TOO?In post 387, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I did and it is better but that doesn't mean it can compete with Aubrey'sIn post 384, Alisae wrote:YOU TOLD ME IN PMS THAT THIS ONE WAS BETTER THEN MY LAST ONE!
YOU ARE A LIAR!
me no understand your logic cuz your logic make me sad ;~;-
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I wasn't in a hurry.In post 408, bangthemafia wrote:
@Kop, can you explain? Also why is spade an obv scum to you?In post 80, Kop wrote:VOTE: Spade Ace
Obvious scum.
If Bang reads this thread backwards, I want him autolynched
@LUV, why are you in a hurry to announce that RVS is over? That sounded a bit odd though NAI.In post 89, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:And with what looks like the first serious vote casted, RVS is now officially over.
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Why is Alisae your top SR?In post 88, Hawk wrote:Early reads are still a little rough since alot of these feels like nonsense to me. But serious vote.
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It doesn't feel natural is more accurate I think.In post 443, Alisae wrote:
So basicly you find me scummy for being paranoid...In post 440, bangthemafia wrote:For me, this literally makes Alissae the most opportunistic player in this game. Its almost as if she builds a case, tries a wagon, sees if people are gonna sheep her, and if unsuccesful tries another case. From throwing suspicion on Hawk (but not voting), then Mala (while hanging her stand on Hawk on fence), then IV (coz he "discredited" those asking dumb questions and by that time Mala's wagon started fizzling out), also throwing suspicion on Uzi whether he is hinting to KT, and as soon as Aubrey showed the faulty logic of why Uzi would need to help KT, now suddenly she suspects Spade? For lurking? And so much that she votes him? This is super scummy to me. And if by the time I finish reading pafe 12-18, if I dont find anyone scummier, I am gonna put my vote on Alissae.-
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Triggered.In post 450, Alisae wrote:Great now he can claim!
Why do you sound so enthusiastic about this? The game didn't need him to be at L-1 right now, especially when you consider the current case on him and Bang still in catchup mode.-
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This sounds scummy. Feels like your vote for him and your entire case was premeditated.In post 457, Alisae wrote:From what I remember he usually doesn't respond that well to huge fucking wagons on him.
And the majority of this game it seemed like we were in a state of apathy. Unless I'm wrong about this.
I can see the latter but that's mainly because Christmas just passed.-
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You sounded like you were.In post 458, Alisae wrote:and who said I was happy?-
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Nah it's not that. It's what you used the knowledge of his meta for. Knowing that he cracks under pressure doesn't sound like something town would mention unless they have a TR on Spade.In post 463, Alisae wrote:Knowing his meta = scummy. Good to know.-
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No we wouldn't know who. Town derp hammer all the time.In post 465, Alisae wrote:Then gimmie your vote. We can get a better read on him and if someone lolhammers then we know who we're lynchin the next day.-
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Basically means the same thingIn post 468, Alisae wrote:I never said he cracks. I said he doesn't respond well to it.-
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So why hydra then?In post 538, Crystalline Dagger wrote:In post 270, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Eh, that's neither here nor there for this game. Ill give him another chance.
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+Not Kain Tepes+Both heads posted. Somewhat notable content too.
I don't post much when hydraing because switching accounts is annoying.
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That post belongs to CD. Check 270.In post 570, KainTepes wrote:
what is meaning of this post,, why do you have to say you are NOT KAIN TEPES,, you are obviously not,, your name is LIL UZI VERT,,In post 552, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Eh, that's neither here nor there for this game. Ill give him another chance.
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This came off pretty genuine to me. I think scum would take the time to word their frustration better here.In post 605, Alisae wrote:
For fuck sake I didn't ask for you to reveal their role.In post 603, KainTepes wrote:
rolefishing scum detected,, you are next after HAWKIn post 601, Alisae wrote:Why don't you just show it now?
I don't care about that information.
Liking having a justified vote is more of a personality trait than a tell.In post 621, Alisae wrote:Okay I'll explain it.
Scum like to push slips that aren't actually slips because they like having a justified vote.
No such thing as town and scum tells by the way.-
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