Open 665 - Friends and Enemies - Game Over! Town Victory!!!

[gigabyteTroubadour]

@king, which two of me, math, and hawk are scum?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

ok cool

@masons, how do you feel about this plan for LYLO tomorrow

• • Math (L-1): Giga, King
    
  • King (L-1): Hawk, Math
    
  • Not voting (1): Deciding Mason

basically we confirm that the team is {King, Hawk}/{Giga, Math} which is basically what we're all thinking anyway

town loses if it's King+Hawk or Giga+Math, but I'm pretty sure no one is considering those teams. if someone

is

that would be nice to say. ty <3

[gigabyteTroubadour]

• • Giga (L-1): Math, King
    
  • King (L-1): Hawk, Giga
    
  • Not voting (1): Deciding Mason

^ also works btw

[gigabyteTroubadour]

empking would have to vote first though that's my one condition

[gigabyteTroubadour]

wait no

plan #1 also fails if it's Giga/Hawk
plan #2 also fails if it's Math/Hawk

[gigabyteTroubadour]

yet again another apology for being an asshole i feel like i might have gone too far

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Giga either one of those plans are fine because they won't fail since I'm paired with Uzi Snowman and CMM :p

Also no I don't need the thread open to solve.

cool

snarky can vote when they're ready to end the day then. see you all tomorrow.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

actually lemme just lay it out plainly:

snarky, next time u log on:

• if you want to end the day, vote mozamis and tell whether you prefer plan A or B (or if you don't care/will decide the next day). i'll hammer as soon as i see a vote.
  
  if you dont, lay out your concerns

i'm taking uzi's vote as an implicit will to end the day so if he doesn't want to he should unvote

[gigabyteTroubadour]

{Mathblade/King}
---------------------------------------------------------------SIGNIFICANT GAP---------------------------------------------------------------
{King/Mathblade}
---------------------------------------------------------------SIGNIFICANT GAP---------------------------------------------------------------
{King/Hawk}
---------------------------------------------------------------SIGNIFICANT GAP---------------------------------------------------------------
{Hawk/Mathblade}

does this help

[gigabyteTroubadour]

like there's literally no way it's not mathblade/king and i'm 100% ok losing to hawk here

[gigabyteTroubadour]

only because it's fun, here's an in-depth explanation as to why Moz is confirmed scum:

[spoiler=""Possible"" Teams]Empking/Giga/Hawk - Giga doesn't unvote in 1547, Hawk quickhammers in 1545, OR Giga quickhammers in 1560

Empking/Giga/Mathblade - Mathblade quickhammers in 1516.

Empking/Mathblade/Hawk - Hawk quickhammers in 1545

Giga/Mathblade/Hawk - Mathblade quickhammers in 1516, Giga doesn't unvote in 1547, Hawk quickhammers in 1545, OR Giga quickhammers in 1560.

LUV/Giga/Empking - In this parallel universe, Hawk is the actual mason and roleswaps with LUV for some reason?? Believable but extremely unlikely. But even then, Giga hammers in 1560. Included since before I unvoted, hawk voted, and I didn't hammer, this was the scumteam from town!moz's pov for a while but now it's impossible lmao[/spoiler]

if you really want to stretch it the only way moz can possibly be town is Mathblade being scum too scared to quickhammer and empking and I are the partners.

so yeah he's good as dead today

^ i made a catchup post for you moz

[gigabyteTroubadour]

hawk think about this from my perspective too

your play has been obvious town all game - you were the first VT-claim to show any indication of knowing who the masonry is, and yet a team with you kills Grendel? It doesn't really add up

like actually catching the mason team like that is such a huge town indicator at this point for me because i guess scum are more likely to miss something that obvious if they aren't reading the thread as closely?

you can think it's a deep pocket but there's like literally no legitimate reason to scumread you

[gigabyteTroubadour]

by "all game" i mean the parts i have been in

i've only read isos

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i guess scum are more likely to miss something that obvious if they aren't reading the thread as closely?

what i'm trying to say here is that scum don't have to read the thread closely due to knowing everyone's alignment already

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Really? I was trying to blur the line between you and Uzi, CMM was too obviously snarky's mason imo.

but i missed most of uzi's crumbs from not actually reading the game soooooo lmao

and i also missed your vt claim until it was too late to stop committing to said line blurring

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also wrt to killing grendel i think it indicates not knowing the masons and wanting to abate a mozamis lynch

or instigate it

or make it look like he was framed

the kill was definitely motivated by mozamis and based on the gamestate it leaned towards him being scum, but it's possible they actually wanted someone to point out that both victims sr moz and bus him

[gigabyteTroubadour]

has anyone pointed out the grendel kill's relationship to mozamis before I did? i'll skim and see but if you have it in recent memory that might help put some pieces together

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Grey not reading...
This is a new one...
I think this might be scum!Grey
VOTE: Grey

Here is why: Grey attempts to buddy the "mason", makes no attempt to figure out what he missed, sheeps the "mason", and then 180s the "mason"
Seriously, if Grey was town he would have actually payed attention to when I said I wasn't a mason.
I don't see any town motivation behind his actions.

oh shit oh shit oh shit

hey mathblade

remember what titus says

listen to the dead

they died for a reason

[gigabyteTroubadour]

moz i am confirmed town to you

i literally did not hammer you when i had the chance to

if i were scum and you were town i would have won a few hours ago

keep trying bud

actually

vote Giga

Uzi, Snow need you with me otherwise we are screwed
proper catch up later

lmfao finally

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Yeah upon further review I'm sold. MB, King, Moz scum team go go go.

VOTE: moz

If Moz flips town beautiful play by Grey and Giga.

i'm antihuman not grey

also unvote hawk i want snarky to L-1 him

moz will likely selfhammer so i dont want to end this day prematurely

i had a whopping 24 minutes to win

meaning "hawk could have unvoted" is not a realistic excuse

i am conftown from your pov moz

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i have literally zero idea why i'm explaining this it's funny to see scum push shit that's like objectively impossible

[gigabyteTroubadour]

math

i have NEVER scumfirmed you

please point to me how hawk is scumfirmed too

[gigabyteTroubadour]

and like those aren't even theories those are literal, objective possibilities

every single moment those scumteams could have won the game without repercussion

there is ZERO reason to not quickhammer in those scenarios

I think both your plans are stupid and you should concisely rank scum teams for me from most to least likely. Math blade and hawk too.

This.
Please don't let scum deceive you.

I am being not pushy because I am Town.

I am letting confirmed town do as they like.
Hammer when they like.
Ask questions when they like.

At this point it isn't up to me.

>implying i'm not letting conftown doing as they please

i am giving them my information and analysis and asking for feedback

literally if i am lynched the game ends - I have every right to be pushy and gamesolve

you coasting and just calling me scum for bullshit isn't town lmao

math

i have NEVER scumfirmed you

please point to me how hawk is scumfirmed too

The hammering.
You said I was scum because I didn't insta hammer.

You said Hawk was Town because he didn't insta hammer.

There is only so much I can wrap my head around.

All day you are screaming I am confirmed scum with each "plan" more convoluted than the last.

quotes man i have never said this

the scumteam could be Hawk/King from my pov

the only person who is hard confirmed scum is mozamis

are you not reading my posts because you already know i'm town?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

sorry for being an ass btw math i lose my patience really easily when i know i'm right and i think it's obvious

[gigabyteTroubadour]

only because it's fun, here's an in-depth explanation as to why Moz is confirmed scum:

[spoiler=""Possible"" Teams]Empking/Giga/Hawk - Giga doesn't unvote in 1547, Hawk quickhammers in 1545, OR Giga quickhammers in 1560

Empking/Giga/Mathblade - Mathblade quickhammers in 1516.

Empking/Mathblade/Hawk - Hawk quickhammers in 1545

Giga/Mathblade/Hawk - Mathblade quickhammers in 1516, Giga doesn't unvote in 1547, Hawk quickhammers in 1545, OR Giga quickhammers in 1560.

LUV/Giga/Empking - In this parallel universe, Hawk is the actual mason and roleswaps with LUV for some reason?? Believable but extremely unlikely. But even then, Giga hammers in 1560. Included since before I unvoted, hawk voted, and I didn't hammer, this was the scumteam from town!moz's pov for a while but now it's impossible lmao[/spoiler]

if you really want to stretch it the only way moz can possibly be town is Mathblade being scum too scared to quickhammer and empking and I are the partners.

so yeah he's good as dead today

math how are specific posts and timestamps alternative facts? just because they disprove something you want to believe (mozamis town) doesn't mean they're lies

there is literally no benefit for a giga/king/hawk team to not quickhammer post 1560 because no one else was online and the game ends right then and there. this means mozamis HAS to be scum to you

i would have taken that opportunity if i were scum. i don't like to wait.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

^ i made a catchup post for you moz

thanks Cabd! Since you're LITERALLY scum, it's complete shit lol

Giga is Cabd!!! Whoa?? No wonder I misread you in PyP.

is this sarcasm i am obviously not an alt

i'm not a guy either??

[gigabyteTroubadour]

the only advantage i can think of to not quickhammering is if there is a legit fear of someone unvoting

which is not the case in 1560

what am i missing

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also math the masons want you to list all the possible teams from most to least likely

[gigabyteTroubadour]

moz could you please explain to me why, as scum, i don't quickhammer you in 1560?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

christ the WIFOM you are spreading is making my head hurt. stop spamming the thread with your BS and let the maosns talk.
I mean, gotta give you credit for making the effort, you are going the extra mile and making up some really creative shit. But essentially you are trying to drown the thread in BS and drown the masons out. No one is gonna fall for that.
Cos you are still scum.

that doesn't answer my question

wifom is deliberately making weird nightkills (shooting only vts intentionally) in this set-up

literally not taking the opportunity to win as scum is proof i'm not scum. there isn't any wifom here, it's objectively impossible for me to be scum to you.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I think both your plans are stupid and you should concisely rank scum teams for me from most to least likely. Math blade and hawk too.

you quoted it math to tell me how dumb it is to confirm me as scum from your pov :/

you think it's me and king right?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

the masons want moz today, king tomorrow, and uzi believes that hawk has the hammer in lylo. that has been made crystal.

my voting plan basically mechanically confirms that this is correct play

[gigabyteTroubadour]

moz could you please explain to me why, as scum, i don't quickhammer you in 1560?

Moz/Giga/King scumteam.

yes

but i'm asking for moz's pov here

That's yhe answer to your question. not that I think you're scum giga.

technically not tho, that just still means moz is confscum

[gigabyteTroubadour]

math -- in a world you're town (which i'm hesitant to believe SOLELY because of grey's play, I thought you were town yesterday), hawk is scum

do you think this is possible?

basically from our pov we have to identify one townie. while i am very sure it's hawk, i want to know how you've been approaching this

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Honestly MB'say play is suspect since I basically spelled it out for him yesterday and he still didn't get who the masonry was and came up with some shitty ass Fitz/CMM scum team/coded language to Moz that this is the masonry. Fuck can we just get to f3 I am slowly becoming very confident in my MB/Moz/King scumteam read.

this is exactly how i feel lol and why i want to stop stalling :/

mathblade's play is literally indistinguishable from their townplay in our last game (where I strongarmed their lynch because they were pushing an objectively false team there too) so i'm kind of worried. but grey's play was his scum meta to a T.

delaying only makes me waffle harder

idk i also want this game to be fair and i feel like replacing in made this a townsweep lmao

[gigabyteTroubadour]

ok so it's like the opposite and the same way i feel

[gigabyteTroubadour]

why is my push scummy? (also ive called you scum today but ive done shit to push you because the .1% chance your slot is town is like a hundred times greater than the .001% chance empking is town)

try and think in the perspective where my slot is town

hawk logically fits best as town because he doesn't look like a king/moz partner

so if you are town then that is what your gut is screaming at you about. on the .1% chance i am misreading grey (again, i townread your play yesterday and only counted the amount of times Grey said "fuck"), try and see if hawk could possibly be scum. i've tried and failed

if you can't find a reason to suspect hawk then there's nothing AI about my push on you because then you agree with me that hawk is town, which means one of us has to be scum.

if you can, then explaining your case is literally game changing if you're town

[gigabyteTroubadour]

you realize the more shit u throw here the better i look from your flip which literally makes this harder for your team to win right

I'll give you a minute to look up the word "sophistry", I know your vocabulary LITERALLY consists of about 2 words.

binch what i know what sophistry is lmfaooooo

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Spoiler: this makes me think of u mozzie but idk if ur thebootydiaries or the other user lmfaooo

[gigabyteTroubadour]

my writing is great when i care tbh. hard to give a shit on a forum when u can just post "^^ tf is this shit ^^" n get your point across you know

im actually shit at math. always have been an english person. if we're creating a dichotomy between math and english people id say that programmers are closer to english people anyway. being able to communicate a procedure the most effecient way possible is basically what programming is

also u havent exactly been writing flowery prose either so im not really sure why you're trying to insinuate that you're better at rhetoric than i am

i have 0 idea why im responding to this either lmfaooooo

[gigabyteTroubadour]

The problem is I could literally pitch almost anything (besides Masons scum) and have it be believable. The problem is I don't have a strong belief. I could easily scumify anyone here. I have reasons to suspect each of the VT claimants. Hell I could be convincing. But the fact of the matter is I would rather make a case I believe. I just don't have one.

Ok, if you can easily scumify Hawk then do so for me. Even if you don't believe it if you're town then he HAS to be scum fmpov

Giga I'm also a programmer with a math degree that entire post is..............Like has no point.

im not letting moz roast tf out of me lmfao thats the point

math is useful for a programmer but i've just never approached it as a "math" thing idk. i think it makes sense at least to get a math degree for going into it

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Good game guys

post game thoughts after school!!

[gigabyteTroubadour]

in case you were wondering it was uzi me and king

i didnt hammer earlier bc i was scared hawk may have

hawk why did you fakeclaim vt?? uzi was really insightful and picked up on CMM and Snarky's crumbs but that doesnt mean you should roleswap lmfaooooo

other than that i think apathy mostly killed town here. mathblade sorry for being awful but you played well

[gigabyteTroubadour]

*may have unvoted

[gigabyteTroubadour]

ok i dont have the heart to do this

i'm twilight trolling moz is flipping scum i'm pretty sure

[gigabyteTroubadour]

math answer my question daystart tomorrow though that should be enough time

[gigabyteTroubadour]

uzi dont kill me

[gigabyteTroubadour]

never twilight trolling again i feel like i killed uzi inside

town will win this i'm confident

[gigabyteTroubadour]

ok mathblade has to be scum

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i'm not a he and i claimed scum with uzi

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i'm not a he and i claimed scum with uzi

Giga stop trolling. Also sorry bout the pronoun.

was talking to mb it's cool

also i stopped trolling 3 posts in :/

[gigabyteTroubadour]

yeah me too :s

pretty sure thats not happening though

[gigabyteTroubadour]

btw math i dont need your case

hawk's reactions are p genuine

[gigabyteTroubadour]

just giving out his reads guys ^_^

that's not a town reaction to being hammered in lylo ^^^

[gigabyteTroubadour]

at this point though i think we can just choose between two suspects and then have snarky decide by hammering. it's up to them obviously but if snarky chooses to vote town i'd at least like to have that happen with some of us making the right call, you know? i just like having agency lol

although given my scumclaim yesterday i'd be hardpressed to justify a team that isn't Math/King so??

[gigabyteTroubadour]

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Then vote King, Math.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

actually before i fuck around

snarky do you think that math/giga or hawk/king are possible teams

and do you think there's any possibility hawk is scum

[gigabyteTroubadour]

math you should post soon so we can confirm we're not scum together actually

[gigabyteTroubadour]

damn it i wasn't online on time

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also 1726 is rly fake lol

[gigabyteTroubadour]

snarky do you think that math/giga or hawk/king are possible teams

and do you think there's any possibility hawk is scum

since ur online

[gigabyteTroubadour]

snarky

[gigabyteTroubadour]

lol it's like day 3 never happened amirite king

snarky i want mathblade to vote king the next time you're online. can you give the ok for that?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i don't want to end the day

where did you get that from?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

ALSO YES giga/math is now confirmed not a team

meaning there's 0 reason for snarky to say no to my plan here

[gigabyteTroubadour]

unless they think hawk is scum oops

this is why i want snarky's input since no one wants to do anything w/o it :/

[gigabyteTroubadour]

btw neither the day nor vc number is right lol

5.1 i think

[gigabyteTroubadour]

if this were about me bussing i'd be voting king right now sweaty

also you can't seem to vote anyone you call scum which i find highly entertaining soooo

[gigabyteTroubadour]

hey math i'm online do you want to vote empking?

doing so rn would confirm him as scum to you, so really the only reason you shouldn't is if you suspect giga/hawk as a possible team

[gigabyteTroubadour]

doooooooooooooooon't leave me waiting

[gigabyteTroubadour]

</3

^my heart, split in two from the tedium of waiting for you to vote or not vote

pls i wanna do shit here

[gigabyteTroubadour]

hgghhg

real life is calling

my dreams of getting math to vote scum have been crushed

until later, friends and mathblade and empking

[gigabyteTroubadour]

V/LA till Wednesday sometime.

math i'm going to give you like 15 minutes to acknowledge this game since i know you're online and that's cool and all but i really want to get this over with

again

only reason i'd have to END THE DAY (hammer) is if hawk is my partner so i can win the game - if i were scum with king and i hammered him after voting me that'd basically destroy any towncred i've accumulated while there's literally no town reason for me to hammer king right away so

literally all i want to do is confirm that if i'm scum it's with king so snarky can start POE'ing

[gigabyteTroubadour]

never said you did lol

but ok if you think hawk/giga is a possibility then i can't do what i wanted to

i guess you're onto me

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I was out of town but I'm back. I want to kill King, but I want to NOT speedlynch so we can talk about tomorrow. We do need to /solve/ it today, or it gets a lot harder tomorrow.

i don't want to speedlynch either

do you have any opposition to using people's votes to confirm certain teams?

all we know for sure is that Giga/Math is not a team, which means one scum in {Hawk/King} QED

if you don't think they're bussing, then we lynch king whenever and math and i crossvote tomorrow and hawk decides

we can also mechanically confirm this via votes

[gigabyteTroubadour]

if you don't think they're bussing, then we lynch king whenever and math and i crossvote tomorrow and hawk decides

actually in this scenario it's possible for hawk to get nk'd so

the point is math and i will very likely crossvote in 3way if we don't lynch them today

[gigabyteTroubadour]

It is like they decided in advance to kill Hawk and then take you and play on your buddying.

are you detatching me from the scumteam...?

how does that even make sense anyway im just pointing out hawk isnt guaranteed to make lylo like i was thinking initially

[gigabyteTroubadour]

wow it's like i've been saying that all game but with our names switched and a different reason for townreading hawk but hey

except for the easier to pair with moz/king part that's just admitting you have terrible associatives lol

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Proving not scum-teams through votes seems like a good idea.

see when you say it i suddenly think it's a terrible idea

[gigabyteTroubadour]

like i still think it's you and math but

[gigabyteTroubadour]

yeah fuck it ur just trying to fuck with me lmaooo

i basically need math to vote you to do anything though so it's up to them

and they want to listen to snarky

so it's up to snarky :/

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Aaaaaah congrats hawk!!

and yeah the only way i think we can safely confirm not-teams is to confirm me as town from king's pov so we can both vote math and confirm that hawk/king only contains 1 scum and not 2 - or confirm math as town from empking's pov and have him and them vote me

i don't like the second one as much because it involves running up conftown ( ) but it would be nice to be sure that math/king IS the scumteam so i'm fine with either

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i'm blatant town

math your reactions in general have been fake as heck - like the reaction to my hammer yesterday

the only way you can possibly be town here is if hawk is too — everything about his play has been transparent and genuine to me

at the same time though it's posts like ^ that ^ that make me think "maybe??"

so i'll ask you again since i guess i do need it after all

if you can scumify everyone - scumify hawk for me

[gigabyteTroubadour]

wait no

why tf does hawk not kill a mason

[gigabyteTroubadour]

plus idg how you can read my d1 interactions w you as scum math

i was trying to get you off of the masonry and onto scum

[gigabyteTroubadour]

no wonder moz thinks im an idiot

"implicitly imply"

lmaooooo

[gigabyteTroubadour]

If you truly believed I was scum you wouldn't need to keep spamming the thread with arguments

i think it's pretty obvious that in that moment i didnt KNOW what i believed

[gigabyteTroubadour]

in case you were wondering it was uzi me and king

i didnt hammer earlier bc i was scared hawk may have

hawk why did you fakeclaim vt?? uzi was really insightful and picked up on CMM and Snarky's crumbs but that doesnt mean you should roleswap lmfaooooo

other than that i think apathy mostly killed town here. mathblade sorry for being awful but you played well

Thanks for admitting you slowplayed.

That makes me feel so much better for defending Moz both wagons were Town.

Well done Giga.

Guess I don't need to do that case anymore do I?

math, you wouldnt write this as scum?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i feel like the less we dwaddle here the less i waffle so whenever you're ready

like

everything points to mathblade as scum - grey playing to his scum meta, the grendel kill most likely coming from a team that didn't identify the masonry, their refusal to work with uzi and me two days ago, their bizzare way of pushing me (calling my scumread of them omgus, for example...), fake reaction to the scumclaim (math i'm taking that nonanswer as a "yes")...

but the more i delay the more i see how math is playing exactly the way they did as town and it weirds the shit out of me - like is that just how they are as scum? i can't piece together a reality where math is town and hawk scum though so i'm no longer concerned and mathblade doesnt want to work with me anyway so if it's us crossvoting in 3way that's what we do

[gigabyteTroubadour]

not hammering

when would you like me to?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

VOTE: king

sorry in class :/

[gigabyteTroubadour]

if hawk didnt bamboozle me entirely

let's ask for a fast night

[gigabyteTroubadour]

tom did you make a dead thread for this game?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

VOTE: mathblade

thank you for actually killing hawk it just makes this 100% easier emotionally tbh

like

that .01% that i misread you was really fucking tilting me ://

[gigabyteTroubadour]

did you just confess

i said you were obvious town d3 lmao

and killing hawk was a realistic possibility considering like the fact he was obvious town and we were always going to crossvote

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FoS LUV

see it's always posts like this that make me hope you're scum when we play together but you're almost certainly town ://////

luv is the most obvious town there is, again, because in no universe does luv kill grendel and he's the only one who has any clue what's going on when scum have demonstrated that they do not. this game would not be as easy to replace in if uzi were scum.

you are confusing town apathy/already basically knowing the scumteam and not caring to vote for a top scumread because the scumteam is basically confirmed with scum tactics. there's 8 days to lynch and it's going to be empking/moz/fitz no matter what anyone does about it - i just want to make sure the masons and VTs are basically synced up in case one of them is actually town.

i'm fine with a hammer whenever hawk is, i think this'll be the first entirely town lynch of the game btw

like most of my d3 was trying to get you to vote scum and stop fosing obvious masons

and you thought i scumread you...??

i only realized you were scum when it was basically confirmed to me via fitz townflip

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oh lmao sure i guess friendo

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aight

honestly i still dont get why ur saying i pushed a smear campaign against you when like there were multiple times - even when i was sure it was you - where i was like MAYBE THEYRE TOWN MATHBLADE WORK WITH ME which is like the complete opposite of a smear campaign but

aight

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fun fact this is the first time i'm not the decider in a 3way lylo

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Grey was playing to his scum meta - his pushes were all weaksauce and when he's town he's normally more aggressive

moz push wasnt strong enough to be a bus and all of grey's other fos's have been on town - grey hates bussing with a passion and i think if he were a town slot he'd grill tf out of moz if they werent aligned together

i think the weird ass kills came from him reading alisae as a mason tbh, cant really think of another explanation but if you want to look into it i've been tempted to delve into that

my townplay is WAY more aggressive/hyperposty than my scumplay - i only played scum once but i think the difference is obvious

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also my scumclaim after lynching moz was a+ and ive dreamed of that being a winning play

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btw i'd link grey towngames but i cant think of any examples wo outing his main

you can look at newbie 1769 and his cassielle push for how he pushes people as scum and then backs off easily

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he's also more trolly/gambitty as town?

check out that recent Pick your poison where he fakeclaims cop with real cop titus's permission

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=69882

^ grey scumgame, he also links a game where he was obvtown in here (not the one i referenced)

lazy w links because mobile and in class

newbie # of my scumgame is like 1749 iirc

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town wins!!

gj snarky <3

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lmaooooo

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yup

its how i figured out uzi was town so quickly

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i want to know if there's a dead thread though

also due apologies to mathblade if i was too much of a binch to you :/

i got frustrated a lot bc i thought you might be town and i really wanted to win with you to make up for pyp

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and MB the VT? man we shoulda had them be the deciding vote.

yeah so weird

nice job tho slipping in that fakeclaim i thought you HAD to be town because boring died

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Good game guys

post game thoughts after school!!

game winning play btw ^^

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I was just soured due to mod confirming me which caused me to force a mislynch of Fitz rather than bus. Which Giga picked up on.

wait really?

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also i wasnt mason lol

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gj rc!!!

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dude i legit did not know you were modconfirmed?

i mean i replaced in because ez game but i thought you were town and it was fitz

i think you made the right plays tbh, im not really sure how i would have pushed my play here as scum and snarky was definitely the better decider for you bc she still gutscumread me

I was just soured due to mod confirming me which caused me to force a mislynch of Fitz rather than bus. Which Giga picked up on.

wait really?

Yup.

Mod said I didn't have daychat.

OH LMAO

i swear i was going to make a joke on that but i thought it was a joke

I wanted to NK Uzi n1, but nooooooo.

Don't listen to Grey!

</3

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no i just knew hawk made 0 sense as scum at with masons you only need one tr to find the team

w/o masons this game probably could have gone differently

Yeah I saw the mod thing as a joke too but I wouldn't do that kind of thing to be on the safe side

this ^

if i ever modded i'd try to be as straight forward as possible so extra info cant be wifom'd

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* and with

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Honestly I will still put it in the wiki but this game gets a big asterisk to me. Sorry :/

I was trying for the town creds of the setup :/

aw

tbf i think hawk bought it for a while and i was pretty sure you were town as a result from that and your replace in in general

i didnt even read grey and had you bussed you probably could have fooled me

[gigabyteTroubadour]

the masonry was really obvious

were the kills intentionally not hitting masons?? i'm still baffled

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Town {Con}
Townlean {LUV, Grey, boring, Ali, Hawk, AH}
Scumlean {Fitz, Emp}
Scum {Moz, FP}

Is where I'm at. borning can probably be town (vs townlean) tbh

^like i saw this while following the game early on and looked at snarky's iso and cmm's iso and was like

how is cmm more town than boring??

then just their combined iso it was really transparent

hawk/uzi it was a bit less clear but once i realized it wasn't MAKING friends and enemies it had to be uzi

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i never read the game btw

just like really isolated bits and pieces

so i dont even know what happened with bbt and alisae lmaoo

[gigabyteTroubadour]

hey peeps
catching up...

i think this is my favorite post in the game tbh

moz how serious was this lmao

i never read the game btw

just like really isolated bits and pieces

so i dont even know what happened with bbt and alisae lmaoo

You should read d1, I was godawful.

lmao i read your iso and yeah you were obv to me but i'll see in context

Math you should have taken my advice from n1 on n2

I replaced in with literally hours left on D2 and not having read and no extension.
Did a quick skim.

Thought your replaceout meant bad stategy so I put Uzi as VT.

I don't do strategic replace outs.

I was drained after 1769 and didn't have the energy to play as many games so I had to back off for a bit.

understandable, 1769 was rly intense

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moz i'm a townhunter myself but you have to get your hands a bit dirtier imo

early on you were in the background a lot and your townreads were pretty lazy

scum is tough though ive only rolled it once but it was really hard to push people who seemed like nice people

[gigabyteTroubadour]

*shrug*

i was kind of hoping my slot was scum actually

We were bad at mason hunting, and that cost us the game. ALTHOUGH ME AND EMP BOTH WANTED UZI FOR THE NK, AND WE SETTLED ON GRENDAL DOH! That was the turning point, killing grendal was a big mistake.

Excuse me?

I wanted Uzi NIGHT ONE.

*popcorn*

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yes, thanks for letting me replace in <33

[gigabyteTroubadour]

yeah we won

AND IDK I'M STILL CONFUSED

you were obvious town i guess

[gigabyteTroubadour]

giga

town won dw

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Also Giga you were like the best replace in ever by the way. Obvtown plus quick easy game logic made the last three days so much easier on me. Thank you.

Pedit: I don't think you played d1 poorly Grey I do think in hindsight the play was easy to scumread.

honestly i felt bad bc this game looked like it was dying of apathy so i decided to liven it up <3

they call me giggles for a reason

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Also Giga you were like the best replace in ever by the way. Obvtown plus quick easy game logic made the last three days so much easier on me. Thank you.

This.
Sorry if i was a bit harsh on you giga. You were posting well! I was just fed up that you had come in and essentially solved the game lol

hey it's cool you were scum

if anything i was worried it'd make it harder for your team to win because we were going to lynch you soon and you were doing everything to make sure i wasn't lynched

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^

you've improved since Semi-Nightless but even if the votecount doesn't change people who don't constantly read back like the reminder of where everything is, plus it's a good way to remind people when the votes are stalling if there are multiple identical vcs

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^ i made a catchup post for you moz

thanks Cabd! Since you're LITERALLY scum, it's complete shit lol

wait this was a fake pt slip??

lmaooooooo i didnt catch that

also i never played with cabd but i'll tell him that people thought i was his alt

[gigabyteTroubadour]

actually that reminds me i want to make a wordcloud of my isos in general just to see how big "lmao" and "literally" are

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Good GG game gigabyte gT Troubadour

oh my omg god ur killing me my dude

that's murder

i'm sad i didnt get to 1v1 one you tbh

[gigabyteTroubadour]

@Giga

Funnily enough I have always wanted to spectate a game or two of yours, but never got around to it.

I think it was your name in all honesty, "Gigabyte Troubadour" looks like the name of a interesting player.

She's awesome.

I absolutely agree!

aaaaahh!! ty guys <3

grendel i feel the same way about you actually

seriously getting nk'd here is a rly good sign about your skill imo

although now that i mention it i'm surprised math didnt game your kill to frame me because of your gutscumread of my slot