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I agree with lyon - there's probably one scum in the 1s, thought beingIn post 86, Dunnstral wrote:
There's nothing to suggest that other than chanceIn post 83, Prince Lyon wrote:and I think that there's probably one scum at least in the 1sthere's three of us, one of us should take it just in case no one does. But, since 1/5 is no better than 3/14, that doesn't help yet.-
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Yep.In post 87, Transcend wrote:gigabyte looks like artificial tryharding at a glance and trying way too hard to look town while others are more natural.-
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Do you think such clumsiness is more likely to come from scum than from town? In my experience both say stupid setup shit. Seems like you're going after low-hanging fruit.In post 136, Spade_Ace wrote:Do you think it was something mafia didn't know?-
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Yeah, really. I've never seen so many reads tossed about less than 1 calendar day into the game.In post 175, alban wrote:There's no solid reason for me to tr/sr people in these early pages.-
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I don't find you scummy, I just don't like you.
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That's fine, I just asked because it seemed at the time like people were piling on the newbie, so I wanted to know if you are a newbie or not.In post 220, Prince Lyon wrote:I am an alt. Please don't discuss nor attempt to discover nor disclose my identity if you discover it. I have chosen to play this game secretly for a reason and I would like it to stay that way.-
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We're barely into phase, there's plenty of time for that.In post 224, Killthestory wrote:fair enough, though you should stop being a baby and play like a big boy-
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8 - Seemed odd that you would open with a researched read on dunnstral. Also thought it was odd that, having done research, you didn't know that you could pick any number in the draft. Plus, I hate pictures. Later (before you mentioned it BTW) I noticed that you were in that game with dunn, and so it made more sense.
28 - "also i can get down w the prince lyon wagon." Vote with no reason - OK, it's early, and some people like early wagons for reactions. But, 3 posts and 12 minutes later in 35 you change the vote to Spade. So, there's no reason for the lyon vote. Plus, in 33 you (at least I think you're referring to yourself, the wording is bad) you townread dunn and wheme. On page 2. Like WTF?
43 - trying to be a leader on page 2. Don't like it.
52 - lyon is now town
55 - pretty good post until the last line, which could be self conscious. Overall the pace and the throwing out town reads feels lamist.-
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Goo goo ga joobIn post 281, Titus wrote: Lol. I am Prince. Prince is me. You are Prince. We are Princes.Last edited by aronagrundy on Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:21 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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This is traditionally the point at which you, you know, share your thoughts on what you've read and stuff.In post 284, davesaz wrote:Caught up but it felt really disjointed reading it. In part because it took 3 reading sessions.
Just announcing that you read it doesn't do much.Last edited by aronagrundy on Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:21 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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UNVOTE:
In this setup, first seed (Titus) should be here obvtowning herself. Disappointing that she isn't. That said, I'm not lynching first seed on D1. Gotta give her the opportunity for a night action and see what happwens.
Generally I don't read into replace outs, but this one was weird. Personally I play this setup because the draft mechanism is unique. Someone winning first seed then saying they can't get into the game is bizarre.-
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I shouldn't play sick. Was looking at the player list, not the draft...In post 495, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:by first seed do you mean the top portion of the draft
because schadd_ is technically the first seed...?
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In a typical setup it's reasonable for PRs to want to lay somewhat low, as they don't want to be so obvtown that they take the NK. In this setup, the top slot (you) is definitely a PR, and the next couple probably are. If you're town, there's already a target on your back, so no need to lay low. So, obvtowning yourself is helpful. IIRC in one of these we lynched the cop (top slot) on D2 because she thought that, as cop, she shouldn't draw attention to herself, which in fact did draw bad attention to her.In post 553, schadd_ wrote:why should we be obvtowning ourselves?-
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The facepalm seems to indicate that you disapprove of the L-1. So, why did you ask for a claim, instead of asking for an unvote?In post 548, Spade_Ace wrote: Titus is at L-1. Please claim.-
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How can you ask such a bad question?In post 561, Spade_Ace wrote: How does that make him scum??
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So you think lurkers should get a pass because, hey, scum wouldn't do that. Got it!In post 565, Spade_Ace wrote:I don't Think Pp would lurk this bad as a scum. All he does is prod dodge. That brings too much attention. I doubt scum would do that.-
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Talk doesn't pressure, votes do. You've played enough to know that. Why are you pretending otherwise?In post 571, Spade_Ace wrote:hey don't get a pass. Which is why I tried pressurising him initially by talking about prod and saying that he wasn't contributing much. But voting him for that is just plain stupid according to.me.
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So devote some of that time to this game obviously.In post 573, PenguinPower wrote:I do. So what?-
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I'm having difficulty getting into this game because: as noted I was sick (starting to improve now); giga's constant posting.In post 671, bangthemafia wrote:The only problem is that following 2 posts i.e. 557 and 579 look quite townie and genuine scumhunting and attemots to futher the game. So am putting Persi in a "To be looked at later" list--
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That's bullshit Titus. I switched a vote early on D1. BFD.In post 686, Titus wrote:I am at Persivul Shade Bang.-
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Why did you want Titus to vote with you when you just voted her, and believe that "everything that you've done today points to you being scum"?In post 678, Prince Lyon wrote:Alright it doesn't feel like Alban is happening today and I'm not having another game where I caught Titus scum and didn't lynch her because of personal reasons.
I would rather lynch Alban if we can get a wagon going there but
VOTE: Titus
I really need something from you if you're town here because everything that you've done today points to you being scum and even if you're town you're likely wrong about Spade_Ace.
I want to point out that you disagreed with me about how to correctly gauge your reads but I correctly ignored you in 200 and also correctly pointed out in the open that your Grey read was likely to be correct.
So if you're town here you are wrong here >90% of the time and need to do something else.Come vote up Alban with me?-
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How so?In post 704, schadd_ wrote:
this question is how confirmation bias happensIn post 703, Persivul wrote:Why do you keep trying to work with someone you scum read?
You don't find it odd at all that he strongly scum reads and votes a person, yet in the same post asks that person to vote along with them against a third? It's bizarre behavior.-
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If Lyon is scum, this is a chainsaw.
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This is incredibly bad, but not necessarily scummy.In post 709, schadd_ wrote:if you refuse to cooperate with somebody that you think is scum, on D1, then that will wither away your desire to actually figure them out and put you on autopilot.-
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OK. You're more likely just talking out of your ass, than chainsawing.
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I'm more concerned about you simultaneously claiming to scum-read Titus while also trying to buddy up to her.In post 718, Prince Lyon wrote:Do you think that I'm scum for voting you Persivul?-
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Should I be? Why are you so important?In post 720, schadd_ wrote:i mean, you're really just proving my point. you're not making any effort to convince me that the interaction between lyon and titus is fishy,-
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No - I'm not trying to convince ANYONE at this point. I don't have strong enough reads. I rarely do before a few flips.In post 723, schadd_ wrote:i'm an eleventh of the town, and an eighth of a lynch. do you only want to convince important people?-
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"Anymore"? You did itIn post 730, Prince Lyon wrote:I'm not so sure that Titus is scum anymore and I'd rather try to do something that we can both get behind to try to read her better.in a single post.-
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OK, I'll bite - what's with the unvote?
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WTF does that even mean? Did you intend to quote me there?In post 747, Titus wrote:
Fiction. Why should I stick with voting Spade and not sheep PL?In post 732, Persivul wrote:
"Anymore"? You did itIn post 730, Prince Lyon wrote:I'm not so sure that Titus is scum anymore and I'd rather try to do something that we can both get behind to try to read her better.in a single post.-
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So, since I said it was bizarre (i.e. doesn't make sense) but I didn't vote you, and actually voted someone else, I presume you town read me now.In post 759, Prince Lyon wrote:Yeah so what I was thinking was that like my behaviour around Titus slot is the kind of thing that scum could push on if they needed to because it does directly involve me going against my reads
but it's the kind of thing that doesn't really make sense as scum and that I wouldn't expect anyone to scumread, particularly if they know who I am. And I really don't see how you read scum into my Titus interactions.-
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What question.In post 760, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i'd like him to answer my question soon too-
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Did I scum read you?In post 761, Prince Lyon wrote:Especially given how they dropped it it feels like a lazy attempt to throw shade rather than underpinning any actual read. I wouldn't be surprised if the progression there was something like Persivul making the posts calling me scum and Shade scum for the 'chainsaw', then someone else in scumchat coaching that it's a terrible idea and to go push on someone else.-
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I'm crap as town, but if I were scum, you wouldn't know it. My last scum partners called me a "shiny golden god."In post 765, Prince Lyon wrote:I mean I guess but considering EM and other site experience I would put quite a few people at this table as more experienced than Persi. And you don't have to be more experienced to tell a buddy in daytalk to shift gears.-
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Read my posts. I found it odd. I found it bizarre. I found it concerning - I didn't say why, but specifically I was concerned he was scum buddying up to Titus as she's one of the most experienced players, but scum reading her at the same time so that the buddying wouldn't be so obvious to her. In the end, I didn't find it suspicious enough to vote. Now, with his explanation, I find it tedious. Traps like that are more likely to snare town than scum.In post 776, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
yeah i guess it was directed at lyon even though i said you could answer the rhetorical question so i'll rephraseIn post 748, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i think your thought process makes sense and i get where you're coming from but after a post like 732 why follow up with a vote on whemeplay?
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When you go putting on an act to try to trap people, you just fuck up the game. You can't successfully lay a trap unless you've first totally obvtowned yourself, and you haven't done that. Frogger used to be good at it. I read you slightly north of null.In post 779, Prince Lyon wrote:Well it felt to me like that's what you were doing. What's your read on my slot?-
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Then get off the game and go do your homework.In post 784, WhemePlay wrote:Hi guys. I posted one thing and my dad said it was dumb and said I can't post again . So I get day 2 and he gets day 1
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That sounds like you're saying you were laying a trap.In post 759, Prince Lyon wrote:Yeah so what I was thinking was that like my behaviour around Titus slot is the kind of thing that scum could push on if they needed to because it does directly involve me going against my reads
but it's the kind of thing that doesn't really make sense as scum and that I wouldn't expect anyone to scumread, particularly if they know who I am.-
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Not Titus - me, or anyone who would question why he would scum read and vote someone, then in the same fucking post plead with the person voted to vote together on a third person. It's completely stupid play. About the only thing dumber than that is scum reading someone for questioning it. Traps are bad, but I can at least respect the attempt. If it wasn't a trap, he's just a fucking idiot. You push your scum reads, you don't hold hands and sing kumbayah with them.In post 789, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i don't think he was trying to trap titus though i don't really get that?-
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Yeah, it was sarcasm.In post 803, Titus wrote:
They are still voting you...In post 774, Persivul wrote:
So, since I said it was bizarre (i.e. doesn't make sense) but I didn't vote you, and actually voted someone else, I presume you town read me now.In post 759, Prince Lyon wrote:Yeah so what I was thinking was that like my behaviour around Titus slot is the kind of thing that scum could push on if they needed to because it does directly involve me going against my reads
but it's the kind of thing that doesn't really make sense as scum and that I wouldn't expect anyone to scumread, particularly if they know who I am. And I really don't see how you read scum into my Titus interactions.-
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WTF?In post 828, Prince Lyon wrote:i can confirm that if schadd doesn't claim 1-shot commuter he is mod confirmed scum.
VOTE: schadd claim
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