Open 527 - Hard Boiled: Dixon Hill's Maudlin Madness

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You know

when I saw Ffulisades, I thought mollie

and then thought "WTF? I thought she replaced out"

and forgot ffery was the other head

HI FFERY

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lol

you silly

Maybe it's to early for me buuuut I'm not exactly seeing what is being crumbed >.>

Unless you're hider, pointing out that you're a PR is pretty :/

on that note

Hider claims now, and we move on from there

TIP-Obvtown
Sci-probably town
Bro-maybe scum
Ceph-probable town
Nacho/Cabd-maybe scum
Nats-maybe scum
Bert-town
Mac- needs to post, scum until he does so
Cait- town?
SD-probably town
Ffery/GIF- I think they might be town BUT WE WILL SEE
eagle-Town

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The only PR that needs to be outted is hider

that way, we get one conf. town today ( techs two I guess) and we don't risk derp-lynching that role (and yes it can happen)

outting our hider now gives us far more benefits than having the hider hidden. Hider can't be targeted at night, so he/she/they doesn't have to worry about that.


WHOOOOOOOPS

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ns, SD, Cait and Sounds (the GIF Half I think) should be able to say what kind of bad things happen when hider doesn't prematurely claim, and all the good things that do when he does

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that isn't needed at this stage unless the vig/tracker decides to go vig

otherwise, the Tracker needs to be extremely careful with that crumb to make sure mafia doesn't uncover it

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that isn't needed at this stage unless the vig/tracker decides to go vig

otherwise, the Tracker needs to be extremely careful with that crumb to make sure mafia doesn't uncover it

This should read

otherwise *hider needs to be extremely careful with their crumbs

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C, you're such a slow butt

how can you not see that Tippy is already obviously town?

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HEY MARA.

THOUGHTS ON TIP?!

Also, bert is annoying me. Sorry buddy, but you are buddying already.

Town. why is Bert annoying you?

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VOTE: Cait Sith

I am down for this though

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I think Hider should claim now, the reasons for why are best explained by Iso'ing Orci in the game Mala just linked

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VOTE: Cait Sith

I am down for this though

OKAY. You get to explain this now.

If this is a jiffy vote, then whatevs.

But if this is a Mara vote, you and I, we're going to have a talk.

Guess we are going to have a talk then?

but I'm not about to let Mala scum-up the thread and then get a town-read from me out of it

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Mara I'm scumreading your head for not saying I'm obvtown

Ok!

I don't think you're obv town yet Science, sorry


Tammy, sure I have a hydra with Mala though she is the only partner I don't have a clear record with when it comes to reading them outside of it


Though I'm pretty sure that, when she goes straight into "working for town" she is, more so that not, scum.

her first few posts are her working for town, and her stroking my own ego both of which are things that put me on edge, especially since she goes after them this early

I'm going to go with batshit insane, but what do I know!

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also!

both her and C waited for me to pull the strings RE TIP almost as if one of the two are waiting to see if we can get him mislynched this game

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No lynch until I get home Please!

this Hydra diss on me... or my slot rather, is kinda weird but it likely makes Cait town I think

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Mara I'm scumreading your head for not saying I'm obvtown

Ok!

I don't think you're obv town yet Science, sorry


Tammy, sure I have a hydra with Mala though she is the only partner I don't have a clear record with when it comes to reading them outside of it


Though I'm pretty sure that, when she goes straight into "working for town" she is, more so that not, scum.

her first few posts are her working for town, and her stroking my own ego both of which are things that put me on edge, especially since she goes after them this early

I'm going to go with batshit insane, but what do I know!

also!

both her and C waited for me to pull the strings RE TIP almost as if one of the two are waiting to see if we can get him mislynched this game

that like literally doesn't even make sense. But is such a stupid reason for a scum read on someone that I almost think it has to come from town.

Why did it not cross your mind that she has played in this setup before and used a method that was beneficial for town. You do realize you're the one who brought up that the hider should claim, and she linked to her experience. I was going to ask about this myself and suggest it if anyone knew the way to break the game because I knew there was a way to do it.

How did she stroke your ego? By agreeing with your idea and linking to a past experience in which it was used? I'm sorry to break this to you darling, but that is not stroking your ego.

Also, her asking for your read on TiP isn't remotely like setting up a mislynch on someone. You're literally saying she's scum because she didn't townread someone soon enough? This is exactly what I thought you voted us for, and I'm just going to. Just find a bat and see if beating myself upside the head makes this make sense.

Welcome to the world of Mara logic I guess?

The first hard-boiled game, she was hider and I don't recall her doing what she is doing this game.

She wants to give all hider-claiming cred to me. I read that as stroking my own ego, especially since no one ever gives me cred even when it's due

and TIP is more her waiting to see what I say before she does anything to him, even though I've stated something before she asked

but I'm not about to let Mala scum-up the thread and then get a town-read from me out of it

Oh I forgot to ask you about this. What the hell does this mean? Maybe my English skills are slipping but I've read it 10 times and still can't grasp the meaning of it.

The more and more I think about your posts this game they just seem really scummy, but I'd like to think that scum you would actually try to make sense, so you just have me super confused.

It means that We've never played a game as town together, and every game I have played with her when I was town she does something incredibly scummy, yet I read her as town for some insane reason and I don't want to do that this game

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Hi MAjiffy tell Mara I'm obvtown

lol, that was me

Jiffy hasn't done anything yet

he won't even talk to me

Mala, you're scum and Tammy's town and I don't talk to scum

(on a serious note)

I did touch up on your post, but I didn't have the time to comment on it however I did take it into consideration or, at least the differing opinions you have on me

hence my unvote

I don't remember you being around earlygame for HD2

I do remember you doing most of the late game posting though

TF: I think ns is town, but not god-town (mostlycuzIlikeseeinghimcryaboutit)

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And on the Third day, a Jiffy rose.

By the way I'm not reading the first 21 pages so if someone could give me a tl;dr that'd be greeeeat.

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And on the Third day, a Jiffy rose.

By the way I'm not reading the first 21 pages so if someone could give me a tl;dr that'd be greeeeat.

Who did you hide behind on night 2?

We're not hider? Why would you think we're a hider?

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Good to see you Ffery!!

Is this the same Bert as Nachopappa Bert?

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Well in about 30 minutes I'm going to put everyone's name on a dart board and throw a dart so if you want to sheep my obviously superior scumhunting method I'll be placing a vote soon.

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Pee-Shower-Dinner&BreakingBad

Better be a tl;dr ready for me before I'm done.

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Never.

Is this the same Majiffy that is the most soft-spoken man on earth? <3

Of course it is <3

Hey Majiffy you talk big

Should I trust you

Or should I not not trust you???

You should always trust me.

Oh, do I actually get to play today? Great!

LET ME SING YOU THE SONG OF MY PEOPLE.

GiF thinks this is town TiP.

You never answered my question.

Hey, VS. Why isn't Majiffy tunnelling anyone yet? (At least that's my understanding of what should happen from one game)

Because I haven't received any tl;drs yet and I sure as shit am not reading 20 pages of this playerlist.

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WHERE IS MY TL;DR.

SOMEONE CLUE ME IN ON SHIT THAT HAS HAPPENED OTHER THAN DEAD SCUM AND DEAD PR.

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Also if anyone wants any face-to-face Jiffy time you can get some in during the next half hour before I go to work.

I'm looking at you, ffery.

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Oh.

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Well that makes sense.

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Gimme your top two town reads and your top two scum reads so I can ISO them.

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I hate to say it but TiP is my top remaining town read. I have some leaning towns, but not another strong town left atm. For scum, Salmonella Doctor. And Cephrir's not looking too good today.

The nacho/cabd hydra wasn't all that active on day 1 and I don't think they posted at all during that hour-long day 2. They are becoming a priority to get sorted.

SD; Definitely a shitty RVS entrance. --- Post 224, imokwiththislynch.jpg --- 299 ---

Ceph; Looks pretty obvtown early on. ---- Remains obvtown by 268 ----

Nacho;

Let mollie sort him

I miss having Mollie in my hydras.
I'll get around to dancing with the Nacho soon enough.


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UNVOTE:
Not voting soft claimed role.

This pings.

THIS IS WHY I LOVE YOU.

Hey look, hydra dissonance

Why didn't you just lynch this d1?

VOTE: SD

Haven't read TIP yet. Also going to cruise through NS since he's pretty easy to read for me.

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Hi MAjiffy tell Mara I'm obvtown

Hi NS

Mara, NS is obvtown
Also TIP looks town albeit totally inexperienced because wtf why did you out the psychologist. Breadcrumbs are supposed to remain hidden for a reason




{SoS, TIP, NS, Ceph}
Pretty ok with this town bloc. Play nice, kids.

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Aaaand I'm gonna go get ready for work now.

Quicklynch SD like yesterday and make a Jiffy happy.

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General Announcement: Stay in your fucking hydras, please.

Who could this possibly be directed to?

Don't gimme that. Obvtown NS is obvtown NS.

Also I didn't know that majiffy was playing lol
Hi!

NEITHER DID I!

Also this head is not seeing cephrir scum because

he looks really obviously town in his ISO?

Yeah, took care of that one for you.

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I think I'm gonna aspire to be like Majiffy

and not read the first 20 pages

because that's how cool people roll

Goddamn right.

Don't gimme that. Obvtown NS is obvtown NS.

Obvtown NS is DEAD.

Well fuck you then!

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Goddamn right.

Would you like to eat rope

because I totally don't have a scumread on you because you are being so playful and otherworldly off-topic, but like

that can totally change

before you say the word "ICICLE"

... Icicle, mofuggah.

Are you voting SD yet?

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I'm buying this because you didn't know Mac was the hider either, which means you ignored the daybreak post. Which happened to be right after the final vote count and NS' flip.

Nati hammered NS. Any thoughts about the composition of that wagon?

I'm going to go on a limb and assume it's in the first 20 pages of the thread that I haven't read yet.

So no, no thoughts yet.

no cuz you are acting derpy about this game and you did this last game I was in with you, "OH SON I DO NOT KNOW THE SETUP, this game hasnt caught my interest yet" I've heard that enough times in that game for it to be a broken record

not gonna fly

and tbh I'm convinced SD is a mislynch because you're scum that is just joining late and pretending to know all of nothing about the game (LIES!)

Ok.

he pretended NOT to know the SETUP of a game I was in when he was scum

when Night was nearing

To be fair, I probably didn't know the setup but I also don't know what game you're referring to.
Unless it's the one where I hydraed with Nacho and we got caught for stupidbullshitreasons.

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Oh

fucking finally

I thought I had to fight with our vote but I think I'm happy with where it's at

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Bert

I'll be back here on tuesday and I'll work with you

I promise <3

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Also

I have told him shit, but he never checks skype :/

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Cephrir you can't even explain why Im really town. Really? Umm... Something's fishy

And yeah, i agree with Tip and ffery - "I get to play today! Great!" sounds pretty contrived

When I'm on my computer tomorrow, I'll bring up the posts thä sounded fake on D1

Oh and Mara, help us out with TIP? How doea he look? Cabd help us out too

I remember tip being mentioned vaguely as town looking by u all, don't want him to slip away by avoiding interactions with u Mara like in 514

I thought he was scum there Bert

I just didn't have the time to solidify it. he didn't slip by me, I would never let him do such a thing

he's town here, I promise

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Hi MAjiffy tell Mara I'm obvtown

{SoS, TIP, NS, Ceph}
Pretty ok with this town bloc. Play nice, kids.

I personally want to take at least Ceph out and maayyybbee add Mala/Tammy Hydra into this

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Majiffy who else besides SD do you have in your scumpile?

No one atm. The people I've given reads on are the only people I've ISOed so far.

I have told him shit, but he never checks skype :/

>.>

I plead the fifth?

I personally want to take at least Ceph out and maayyybbee add Mala/Tammy Hydra into this

No Ceph stays.

Is the Mala/Tammy hydra that Cait thing? I can't read either of them. That's you.

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Not voting SD because I don't want to end the day (he's on L-2).

*peer pressure*

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Im ronery... so ronery...

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TIP I'm townreading you so sheep me thx.

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If you were Mara sure
But you're Majiffy
I still remember Dragonball

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Also, majiffy, I already included that song in this game, stop being a parrot dj.

The first twenty pages of Open 527, fostering a significant lack of Majiffy, have been deemed to not officially exist. As such, your statement is false. Carry on.

Cephrir

Bad and you should feel bad, Nacho.

I'm not sold on fferytown yet either

Well get sold.


Kind of ok with the Nachoslot lynch. I'll place a vote there if momentum swings off the SD wagon.

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Eh, haven't heard from DP in awhile, so I'll switch to my scum read.

VOTE: TrollingFairy

Hesitation.

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Beer pong tournament time. Peace, bitches.

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I would love to wait for a moment before a lynch goes through

because I for one don't really understand the reason behind the Fairy lynch

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GIF, why are you depending on others to read TIP?

last I remember, you weren't to incredibly bad at reading him

TIP, hold on to your vote for now until I get a feel for where we are at

pretty please

or, actually

VOTE: Cephrir

this one could be followed

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also, Tammy

could you give something that isn't burden of proficiency (Ok, you've got Nacho being robotic sounding, but that's about all I can see). I mean, I get that you expect certain people as town to see you as town, but I think you might be a little unrealistic in your attack on Nacho and I think that they are town.

I've looked through your Iso, you're pretty obviously town now I think but, I don't think Nachoscum would attack Tammytown because he knows of your expectations of him

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Anyway so if this is tippy's towngame...
SD/TF scumteam!
Game solved.

This was you Ffery?

because this post kinda gave me the slight vibe that he is depending on others to read TIP

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First off
UNVOTE: Cephrir
No.

Fucking no.

Hell fucking no.

Anyway VOTE: SD

Make the rest of my post on my phone later. Back to Sons of Anarchy.

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Went to sleep.

>.>

Also don't remember what else I wanted to post so whatever.

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Stating intent to hammer the Nacho. This doesn't feel like his town self.

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Nacho's at lynch -2

Hokay.

VOTE: TrollingFairy

Stating intent to hammer the Nacho. This doesn't feel like his town self.

Where was this Jiffy in the Buzzword Bingo game?

What are you talking about?

Stating intent to hammer the Nacho. This doesn't feel like his town self.

Why not?

Too calm. TownNacho is more frantic when people are voting him for perceived stupid reasons.

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TIP is probably still town for quickhammering. More when I have a chance to go into depth on the flipped scum.

Given that we have a mislynch that does seem like a reasonable tack, but I don't want to go there until I look back.

These posts need to die

Bert, how can you not know when I'm posting

I thought you knew my voice and my style

I was here yesterday, talking to Tammy about stuff, then went to bed and didn't get to do anything till after the hammer was placed

tbh, I lost a little bit of motivation to re-read over the night, I wasn't sure what was going to happen coming into today and I'll probably push this until Jiffy gets back

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oh

VOTE: Cephrir

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I think the last scum can be found in Ceph/SD

I'm kinda worried on how NachoCabd ended up being the c/w to SD. It doesn't really help either way, and I had thought that Nacho might have had a chance to be town

I'm pretty certain in Bert/TIP/Cait town, though Jiffy isn't that certain about Cait IIRC though, as it stands I definitely don't think we should focus on that pool

those two quotes are wierd, it reads as if Ceph knows that SD might possibly end up being a mislynch

Pedit: <3

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Just paranoid they might have been merely distancing from Nacho, hence their lack of vote

TBF, I kinda sorta asked Tammy to leave Nacho alone and I think they did have their vote on him, but was giving him time in the chance that they were town. It also served as a means to give Nachocabd time to maybe contribute as well as me as I didn't get a chance to voice my opinions much yesterday

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VOTE: SD

The only smart option today.
And ffs stop voting Ceph.

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Why SD over Ceph?

1) SD is a scumread
2) Ceph is a townread

And what about Nacho's case on Cephrir or distancing from SD, what do you make of that

Nacho's case on Cephrir reeked of trying to get a counterwagon started.

Ftr you guys are freaking me the fuck out with your dissonant voting. Not that you're having it I totally get how that goes, and you're kinda reminding of my hydra with Arthur, but I thought that Mara didn't push on people her hydra partner thought was town and voted more in unison.

Deal with it?

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but I thought that Mara didn't push on people her hydra partner thought was town and voted more in unison.

lolno

not entirely sure where you get this line of process, however I have tacked on votes that my hydra partner hasn't agree'd with

I've voted TIP in an open where Nero disagreed and kept moving the vote to someone else for example

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Meanwhile VS is coasting a bit more

Come again?

I've made if pretty damn clear that I've been giving this game as much time as I could have, it didn't help that I didn't get to do jack shit D2 or three and it definitely doesn't help that someone dies right when I start having a little bit more time

Jiffy hasn't coasted for shit either, so I don't even know where you get this idea from

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Regardless, you hydra with mala, ill get her take on that.

>.>

I've done some bad things to her in HxH, fair warning

Bert, Who's ten?

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I'm slightly nervous about VS as well, just because one of the members obviously doesn't want to vote me and the other keeps doing it, that seems like potentially fake hydra dis and a fairly easy way to have it.

I'd put her on a leash but Mollie might get jealous.

Addendum: I also feel like Majiffy isn't being as aggressive towards his supposed scumreads as I believe he generally is

The day just started. If you morons decide to start pushing someone OTHER than SD, you'll see me turn green and run around in purple boxers.

I'm in no hurry to lynch obvscum. It's the only move to make today. You'll come around.

We lynch SD.
In the case he isn't scum, we lynch Cephrir.
VOTE: SD

You're half right.

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We haven't lynched SD yet?

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Guys guys guys I found a better Hulk;


Also we're lynching Cait Sith tomorrow if SD flips town ty.

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Why lynch Cait Sith tomorrow?

Ties to Nacho. Only reason I didn't push it today is because SD needed to be sorted.

If jiffy is town, he's just intent on trying to get town to lose this damn game by not actually paying attention and ramming down lynches just like he did today.

Hopefully if jiffy is town, he dies tonight because I just don't trust his judgment at all. But fortunately he appears to be the only one smoking crack here. Also their hydra dissonance is off the charts. MarA has made the correct judgment on my alignment.

Also this is a scummy as fuck reaction to being called out.

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AtF harder, please.

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Who exactly are you shouting at to kill me, anyway? Scum? Because saying "OMGZ TOWNS GUNNA LOSE IF JIFFY DOESN'T DIE" is a strong motivator for scum to kill me, you know.

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OR

And I'm just applying Occam's Razor here


You could be scum and I could be right.

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Yes, I want scum to kill your ass because I want town to have a chance to win this if your town. Which we will not if you're town and you live.

You pulled this same exact shit with me in Experimental mafia, except then the cop had breadcrumbed a clear on me that you absolutely refused to believe. The only reason why we won that game was because you hammered Hiraki just before endgame because of how he was acting, you spent the rest of the time trying to prove I was scum when I wasn't.

The problem is that at least in that game you were being a little bit receptive about reading the damn game.

And if you want to know how I feel at endgame when I think town is going to lose because some jerkhead with an ego decides I must be the scum I'm not, meta me.

There is just no way no how I'm scum here.

So let me get this straight;
We're going to lose because *reasons* involving a game you're referencing where I hammered correctly?
And you're not scum because *self meta*?

Fuck off.

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And not even proper self-meta where you OFFER information freely. No, this is the "go look it up yourself!" bullshit you know 99% of players would never fucking do because effort.

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Majiffy, how sure are you about CS being scum?

can you elaborate on his ties to Nacho??? You think they were bussing?

Pretty confident. I'll get a whole wall post together at the beginning of tomorrow. Work on it during the night phase.

Still kind of holding out that SD is scum and I won't have to do work.

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Felt pressured anyway because of Majiffy, and everyone saying SD had to go

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Yeah I'm cool with this plan.

VOTE: CS

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I've self metad to hell and back already this game.

Talk to your other head. Because you know her alignment for sure,

she can tell you this is town me.

And I'm not even close to joking.

There is no way in hell I'd forget what a hider did if I were scum. Not one.

In what world was I more obvtown than Ffery?

Just gonna go ahead and leave this here.

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It's a contradiction insofar as you consider yourself 100% no-possible-way scum which is irreconcilable with any sort of townread on SoS unless you already know their alignment; something you couldn't know unless you were scum.

And now you say "I was just as town as they were", yet your question "in what world was..." implies a different position entirely.

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Are you a marathon runner?

wut

Oh Jiffy. Thank you for the scum claim. What I remember about you back when we were partners in Heterosexual Revolution is that you argue semantics when you're scum. And you're doing it here.

1) I don't even recall a game of that name
2) Ffery has tried using the logictell on me, it has since been rendered null. Plus, you're using it wrong. I use semantics to make giant wall wars to bog down the thread with activity. Don't try to water down the tell, it's a very effective scum strategy and I can't have you kids ruining it for me.

Because darling darling Jiffy. Those aren't even close to being incompatible stances. One can be obvtown and not be more obvtown than the next obvtown.

The "in what world" implies it heavily.

Yes, there was something that I literally cannot do if I were scum. I'd never forget what a hider did as scum, just not happening, but that doesn't mean that my town slip made me more obvtown than someone else who by play was just as obvtown. I made a huge townsliip and was just as town as they were, but I think they were more obvtown.

You can say "I'd never forget what a hider did as scum" till the cows come home, but it's not a townslip, and it doesn't make you obvtown. Sorry, but the truth hurts.

On the other hand, you've been hedging your bets and

treating

me as town ever since I called you out, all while continuing to

call

me scum. You want to talk about slips, I'd say that's the biggest one of all.

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But you know what jiffy, if the game doesn't end here, and if we're in endgame tomorrow together, I'm still going to reread the game without confirmation bias to try to figure out who the last scum is so that town can win. I hope if you're town, you do the same, but my hopes aren't high.

Tell you what. If you flip town, I'll actually read the first 20 or so pages.

Heterosexual Revolution You replaced out day one because people were suspecting you for making stupid semantic arguments and being scummy and you were concerned you'd get lynched day one.

Meh, replaced out d1. Explains why I don't remember it.

Anyway that's the wrong tell you're applying.

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Of course the proper tell to apply there has since been rendered null as well.

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Are you a marathon runner?

wut

Well it's a hell of a stretch you're making.

Oh ho ho

I hope you didn't stay up all night thinking of that one, just to waste it on little ol' me.

Don't be scummy.

I'm never scummy. Unfortunately, some people just don't understand how to read me and think I'm scummy.

The people that

do

know how to read me know I cannot be read.

THEY'RE BEING THE MOST OBVTOWNS OF THE OBVTOWN KINGDOM DOESN'T MEAN I DIDN'T CONSIDER MYSELF OBVTOWN. I JUST CONSIDERED THEM KING AND QUEEN OF OBVTOWN KINGDOM.

I didn't expect any other death last night because they were seriously seriously obvtown. AND do you know what makes them more delectable to kill? They're probably the only ones who could reign in your ass to not pressure people to quick lynch like a fool, so they were the optimal kill.

Learn it. Live it. Love it.

So despite yourself being on-par obvtown (which, from your POV, shouldn't be possible anyway but moving on) you expected SoS to be killed but didn't possibly consider yourself as a kill target?

Because that makes sense.

How much crack are you smoking? No, seriously, can you put Mara on the line. She at least knows how to talk with people without just being an infuriating jerk.

Mara is... elsewhere?

SYRYANA I HATE YOU FOR TELLING ME TO JOIN THIS GAME THAT HAD MAJIFFY IN IT. I DO MY BEST TO AVOID THIS KIND OF FUCKING STUPIDITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE ONE OTHER PERSON I HATE PLAYING WITH WORSE.

*Technically, you were in this game before I was.

...

Yada yada, AtE, yada yada...

That nonsense you had up there too is nothing but fucking nonsense. I had you as leaning town. I don't know for sure who is the scum left, but I do think it has a really really good chance of being you.

Hopefully if you're town, you'll die, because if you're town and you live town will lose. That's for sure.

So you think I'm town but I have a good chance of being scum and if I'm town, town will lose, but I'll probably die because I'm town and

Do you even listen to the shit you're spitting out right now? You can't tell your head from your ass.

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CS did you get my crumbs? Doesn't matter anymore to me if you get NKed, as I was trying to save you, but

Jiffy I'm pretty sure gut-wise is scum, plus he "forgot" the setup in the game where he was scum.

Sorry to have been a distraction, but I had an urge to try to get someone else to draw the NK

but doesn't matter anymore since now I have a strong gut scumread.

1) Your crumb was really fucking obvious.
2) You're dumb
3) Just so you know, my "forgot" was really forgot in that game.
4) You're... still dumb.

Hey ho what'd he say...he uses the scummy semantic tool to clutter up the game. Oh bloat scum bloat.

... You started the walls, don't blame me for your mess.

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Alrighty then. Enjoy your delectable lynch tomorrow.

Lynch CS after we flip town.

Don't worry, you'll have a beautifully large case to sheep, filled with links and quotes.

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This. This is the reason I stay away from jiffy as much as I can.

Wah! I can't take being called dumb on the internet in a game based on logic and argumentative rhetoric! Woe is me!

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tomorrow's MYLO.

pretty confident SD wasn't pulling our leg, and they are going ot flip town and it will be MYLO tomorrow

I agree re: SD.

And if tomorrow is MYLO then you're an idiot if you lynch me.

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^
"I can't refrain from calling people dumb on the internet in a game"

Give me one good reason why I should.

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It's also impossible to have a functioning game when people play with their egos instead of their brains. It just becomes ego bashing and that's not mafia.

False. I've played in many ego-bashing mafia games that functioned just fine.

It's kind of like on a playground.

Wait for it-

And if tomorrow is MYLO then you're an

*idiot*

if you lynch me.

Says the person who is advocating a lynch on me.

IM GONNA GO TELL THE TEACHER ON YOU.

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People will take your criticisms more seriously when they aren't being called dumb in the process.

Seems to me that "people not taking Majiffy seriously" is pretty low on the list of things Majiffy has to worry about.

Also,

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Now, I'm off to shower and drink gratuitously.

Happy hunting!

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GODDAMMIT

this is literally

the

worst lylo to be in ever

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though, honestly, that TIP kill doesn't surprise me.

the two people that Jiffy and I have pretty much been dissonant for the majority of the game?

Majiffy has alot of associative tells on Cait, though they are tells I'm not really sure are that strong to begin with. I had Cephrir as townish early on, TBH but I havn't been particularly fond of his play and, IMO is most likely to be scum between the two

Jiffy thinks he's Obv town, and I don't really understand his reasoning :/

I'm unsure of what to make of the fight between Jiffy and Tammy, I think town-tammy is more likely to get that kind of emotion out in comparison to scum-tammy, though the only thing I have in comparison is that open game and she did mange to make me feel bad about stuff

the call out and how it's done is something I'm pretty paranoid about. I don't really like it when people try to reach out to me specifically, especially in hydra, and when the other head is being attacked. It just feels weird

Pedit: Probably yeah, Mala is pretty easy to manipulate emotionally and swaying her to my side probably wouldn't take alot of effort

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Tammy, this lylo isn't really optimal for anyone here except for maybe Cephrir, but even he would have more motivation to keep TIP alive over us especially considering that TIP was extremely willing to push you guys

Pedit: If I was scum, one of TIP and Bert would still be alive.

I can self-meta all day on why I'm probably town, but it's more probably more efficient to figure out who, between the two of us is correct

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Didn't he?

TIP didn't even look in my direction all game

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We lynch SD.
In the case he isn't scum, we lynch Cephrir.
VOTE: SD

Hmm

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He said he wouldn't sheep Jiffy because of Dragonball, Vegito was town there

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Vegito is Jiffy/Nacho Hydra

I think Jiffy was pushing bad reads while Nacho pushed good ones or something like that

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Mala thinks you sound really town Mara

Why?

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This lylo isn't really likely to happen with any one of us as scum though

(and what is her name, you should totally put her up in the pet thread)

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I can't take it anymore.

VOTE: Cait Sith

You have spit out more self-referential meta to call yourself obvtown without

actually referencing anything

than I could believe possible from anyone.

If Ceph is scum then gg.

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Ceph if you

need

a CS case to sheep let me know. Otherwise I'd rather not be arsed.

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Scum alignment confirmation, thanks.

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Scum alignment confirmation, thanks.

+1

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CS was trying to claim credit for starting the Nacho wagon, right?

Note that immediately prior (the last 25 posts or so) to this post;

Okay I have a terrible headache and mala has the flu. If I finish my lecture for tomorrow soonish, I come back tonight.

Need to talk to mala

but

VOTE: trolling fairy

2 players had stated poor feelings about the Nachoslot, including one vote, and several players coming to mutual town reads on each other within a bloc of Bert/SoS/Ceph/Ourselves

Optimal time for bussing.

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Number of posts that look way too scum on scum here forward.

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100 posts after she votes Nachoslot, she

finally

makes a post pushing him;

My heart has just shattered in a million tiny little itty bitty pieces all over the ground. I don't know if I'll ever be able to find them all.

Because now I know for complete certainty without a doubt that you are scum. You would never actually say that to me if you were town. First of all, I didn't have a headache the night that Nat was lynched. I had a headache last night (and today) so you are making stuff up.

Second of all, you know me well enough to know that I always believe I'm going to be investigated when I'm scum. Therefore, I would never forget what a hider did because as scum I would expect to be hidden behind and caught. That kind of reaction only ever comes from me when I'm vanilla town because I fuck up roles and setups then as I just don't pay attention. And you can't even accuse me of faking because everyone who knows me and how I feel about my scum game knows that I always think I'm being super fake when I'm scum, so I wouldn't even think to forget what a hider did.

And even if I did have a headache that night, which I didn't, it wouldn't preclude me from worrying that I or my team mates would have got caught by a hider. I would have still remembered what a hider did and that we could have got caught by them.

I'm so sorry you drew scum this game. I really am.

Is it just me or does none of this sound like a case for lynching Nacho at all?

So 100 posts and no real push, still.

NACHO IS SCUM THIS GAME. PUHLEASE LYNCH NACHO WITH ME

Why so certain?

Probably because she

needed

the towncred and knew that with myself and SoS in the game, along with other players such as Bert and TIP with Nacho experience, he wouldn't be able to go against a solid town bloc on his own.

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Cait bussing Nacho was necessary, and she demonstrably had no reason to be so certain about his alignment unless she already knew it.



More after I take a piss.

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vs POINTS THAT OUT

and then proceeds to not vote me

why don't either of you make sense

Points what out

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TIP is a moron. Plus you're obvtown.

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1)

Vote: SalmonellaDoctor

2)

you sound like robotic scum.

if you're not, show me you're not.

but you'd have to do it without me thinking you're trying to manipulate me, wherein lies the difficulty as I'm already going to be predisposed to think everything you say is you trying to manipulate me when you're scum.

I'm going to come back tomorrow, catch up in other games. We'll continue dancing then.

I'd take the time to figure out a way to be manipulative in which I don't think you're being manipulative too if I were you. It's gonna be hard though as I already had a scum read on you before your strange push and posts. But, I'm sure you can test the limits of your creativity and see just how easy is tammy to manipulate.

But, in a show of good faith, because I do love dancing I'll

UNVOTE:

it's still there in spirit, but let's see what ya got.

1) Nacho thinks he's hammered
2) CS points out he's not
3) Nacho votes SD
4) CS unvotes Nacho

I mean, really.

Really.

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Plus the rest of their ISOs next to each other is really scum+scum looking.

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You didn't prove anything, you are scum spinning a conversation to fulfill your scum agenda.

You know for a fact that wasn't scum v scum.

You know for a fact that was me being awesome town catching your scum partner and now you're trying to make me take the fall for your scum ass.

It's patently obvious, and I have faith that cephrir will see through you.

There's no way I'm scum here, and the only ones pretending its possible, is you.

The fact that you actually are trying to peddle that I brought you to lylo is ridiculous.

Also, calling me scum 10 times in a post doesn't make it true.

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If any of the four of you has been in 3p lylo before I'd appreciate links

Do you have any idea how many games I play in?

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28279
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28296 (added bonus: Mara scum)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=27133 (added bonus: Lotsa LYLOs!)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=26040
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=25469 (sorta?)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=500
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=725

That should be enough of both alignments to chew on.

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The only time I have been mislynched has been in lylo

I can't tell your two heads for shit but this is cute.

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Oh never been SCUM in lylo nvm

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It's sad . I was really obviously town too. my only mislynch

Interesting parallels, scum tried to make my fucking up the setup and forgetting a role and me having "unnatural" look bad and it worked.

So let me get this straight; you got mislynched in "your only mislynch in lylo" for "fucking up the setup" and "forgetting a role".
Then you say you would "never do these things as scum", hence why you're "obvtown".
And now you bring up the parallels to such a game.

Girl, you need to read over my scum games and take pointers.

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TIP/Ceph/CS lylo.

Who gets lynched and why.

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I was town in that game.

I was a newer player who didn't really understand setups. I didn't know the purpose of a bodyguard and questioned the confirmability of the cop in the game.

Scum claimed I was scum mudslinging because no way I'd fuck that up. Town bought it.

That does not change the fact that I wouldn't forget what a hider did as scum. I only fuck things up like that as town

, which I do quite a lot because I don't pay attention, because I don't have to whereas when scum they are of oncern so they're always on my mind.

But it's cute you're trying to make it look like that could ever come from scum me. You're grasping even harder now.

Bolded: "I am more experienced now and that was an obvious mistake on my part in my past"
Italicized: "But I'm town for making such an obvious mistake in this game because..."

I'm just saying, you're essentially playing;
"Look at me do X in game A, I was town then, so now that I'm doing X in game B, I couldn't possibly be scum because I only do that as town! See?"

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Wouldn't happen. You're scum.

So you wouldn't take me to LYLO as scum but CS/Ceph/TIP wouldn't happen?

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I mean, just the fact that you won't entertain the hypothetical is because you know where it ends. Which is why TIP was killed.

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Why are you trying to engage me in hypotheticals if you know I'm scum?

Because our fine-feathered decision maker is leaning towards placing a vote on me, and I need to show him why you're scum.

You're making a claim ("I would not bring Majiffy to LYLO")
I am making a refutation ("You had no choice")

The hypothetical proves my position. You know this, which is why you're dancing around the question.

You are scum, so that hypothetical lylo wouldn't happen. I mean you can try to twist all you want but the fact is you're scum.

"I wouldn't bring Majiffy to LYLO as scum because Majiffy is scum so it wouldn't be possible for me to bring him anywhere as scum because I'm not scum heehee!"

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"I wouldn't bring Majiffy to LYLO"
"You had no choice"
"No cuz I go for threats first"
"But you had no choice. Here, let me explain this with a hypothetical;"
"No hypotheticals cuz you're scum cuz I wouldn't have brought you to LYLO"

I feel like I'm arguing with a fucking 3 year old.

Ceph end this shit when you get on please.

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But what you're trying to say is super cute. Are you trying to say that in the one minute between the thread opening and me making that post I decided to think back to other games and go aha ill forget a hider also dies if they hide behind someone who is scum?

It doesn't need to be deliberate. What's important is that you're harping over it like it's some holy grail. Townies don't do that. Scum who are excited over what could be construed as a strong towntell do. Why? Because scum are more concerned with being considered obvtown.

I did have a choice. I could have left any of tip, Bert, SOS, or cephrir. Threats first. Which means you first.

Not with the town bloc. You needed to start breaking it up. Which I already explained.

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IIRC you started harping over it being a strong towntell shortly after Nacho told you it was a strong towntell, too.

So I guess put another notch in the associative tells list as well.

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So, he had to see me insisting that I was town obvtown based on who was left and behavior I wouldn't engage in.

So now tell me how disingenuous as fuck jiffy s push over town wouldn't care about that when its a major part of my town playstyle AND HE KNOWS THAT.

1) Was I even considering you as scum in that game? Because if I wasn't, I sure as fuck wasn't going to be reading your posts.
1a) I'm going to assume I wasn't, because I probably would have lynched you for insisting you were town based on self-referential meta bullshit

2) One game does not "a major part of town playstyle" make. Nor does it an epistemological position on aforementioned playstyle make.

Lol. Keep stretching scum bag.

God damn if I had a nickle for every time...

I pointed it out as something I wouldn't do as scum. Cabd sarcastically called it a town tell, and nacho kept trying to say its something I'd do. He only backed off later when it was bleeding obvious I was town and he wasn't going to be able to push me like he thought he was going to do because no one else was buying it.

Not what I remember reading in the ISO.

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i'm going to hold and wait for tammy's reaction to this post
i'm expecting it to be the biggest and most beautiful town thing ever

<3 thanks tammy!

Why?
Her posts are already the biggest and most beautiful town thing ever.

You're actually trying to argue I kill this and not you?

This is Lulzy stupid.

I kill threats and then I worry about taking care of who I can't hide behind.

When that person has no possibility of being lynched and you're running out of mislynch targets, yes.

What's the bigger threat, having to deal with a slot that wants you lynched that other people are considering for scum, or running out of people that people think could be scum leaving you as scum by POE?

Answer: the latter.

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Yeah you were scum reading me in the game. Even though the cop had crumbed an innocent result on my predecessor, you spent pages arguing with amrun that it couldn't be it. We fought over why I couldn't be scum.

You can keep on spinning things all you want, but the fact is you're scum.

Meh whatever. Don't really care either way.

I have a kitten to play with and a test to write, I'm not wasting anymore of my time arguing with a scumbag.

If cephrir asks me something ill gladly oblige, but you scumbag can bugger off.

Of cephrir is swayed by all the spin you've given today thers nothing I can do about that, I'm just going to have faith that when he rereads the game he sees the obvious and gives this a town win.

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Wow, what a wall!

Lets see what kind of content actually exists.

Jiffy's not talking to me like I'm scum. You know why? He's scum and knows I'm town. Therefore, the only thing he has in his arsenal is to twist, mischaracterize and yes misrepresent (this word is often over and incorrectly used but it applies here) in the hopes that Cephrir will get paranoid and lynch me. But he lacks conviction; that's because he knows that he's a liar.

Bold claim. Nothing to back it.

Out the window it goes!

So, he's trying to push this angle that poor little itty witty me just felt like I had to bus so I did. The problem with this is that Nacho was my first scum read here. We also have a possible Bert. But what I find interesting is that town Majiffy would probably be able to use this post to push a scum me, but he's not. Why do you think he's not? He's not because he can't. He can't figure out why I was scum reading Nacho from that post, because Nacho couldn't either.

Or, and this might be tough to wrap your mind around, I only used things I knew about. Considering what you're highlighting is from a part of the game I never read, why would I bring it up?

But in order to believe that you'd have to believe I'm that type of player. when I'm not. Check out that for how I defended my scum partner Tierce when she came under suspicion by macmollie. Sorry but the must defend a partner isn't not my thing.

Oh, good, more self-referential meta defense. Totally legit.

Where his case also becomes an obvious scum case is when he doesn't take into account the remainder of the game. I just pointed out that day one I scum read Nacho. Nacho wasn't around again for day one so I didn't get to interact with him day one. Day two I suggested I was going to vote Bert, but then we interacted and that read changed. Day three has me immediately reverting to my scum read of Nacho and as soon as they come back to the game interacting with them. So jiffy has to frame it like a bus I felt obligated to do. When that doesn't fit my scum game at all as I'd have gladly let him bus me and then win this in lylo because he's the better scum player than I am.

So I'm scum because I didn't bring up a part of the game I never read. Cool stuff.

Oh, and more self-referential meta, in case you forgot how town she is!

What's interesting is he cuts all of that out.

Do you have anything else to talk about in this wall or should I just go to sleep now?

He also actually tries to make it scum motivated of me to be keeping track of the votes coming in because somehow not wanting a quick lynch is somehow insane. But, sure I'll bite on this one, if you can find any example of me quicklynching or advocating a quicklynch, I'll eat my own hat. Quicklynches are bad for town and shouldn't be done.

That is a really interesting twist. Everyone go ahead and look at how she turned this one around. It went from informing her partner to suddenly "OH IM SO AFRAID OF QUICKLYNCHES THAT'S WHY I WAS TOTALLY KEEPING TRACK OF ALL THE VOTES".

Christ, she even admits it!

So, yes, at one point I unvoted because nacho and I weren't done talking and I was interested in getting him to talk more to help figure out who his last partner was. But do you know who did rush to get on the lynch? Do you know who did try to cut off discussion? Not one day but even the next day by forcing that Doctor Pepper lynch down your throats?

That's right his scum partner.

Rush is kind of a strong word, considering I hadn't voted until I was informed Nacho wasn't even at L-1.

What's funny is that VS actually stated that I tried to take credit for the Nacho wagon, but I never even suggested anything of the sort.

I'll let CS go ahead and refute herself here.

or that somehow I bussed nacho for no reason the day after one got caught by the tracker even though it's something I've never done (bus once yes, bus near end game when there's just one of us left for no reason, no) you would have to recognize that I would only put myself in this lylo if I were a moron. This lylo would never ever happen with me as scum.

And that's just one instance. I could find more if you'd like.

What is also super funny is that he's like 100 posts after soft pushing she pushes him in Post 749. Yes, because it was in that moment I was sure. But what's even more amusing is that in the same post of his, Majiffy is blaming me for "soft-pushing" and then being too certain.

I'm not sure at all what the fuck any of this is.



Two paragraphs of useless posturing...

Paragraph of ATE to Ceph, plus - you guessed it - more self-meta bullshit.

Aaaand that's it.

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I could be mad at Jiffy right now for voting without talking to me about it, though it does prove that I was wrong about Ceph so....

I didn't vote you when I pointed out 960 because I didn't want to be wrong and cost us the game. I wanted to talk to Jiffy about stuff first :/

it's a good thing I didn't though? TBH, I'm pretty freaking surprised Tammy Drew scum this game and even with that knowledge in mind, I can't really draw up a case to why I think she's scum other than PoE