Open 565: Friends and Enemies - GG

[ika]

Votecount 3.0

Baezu: +-
+-: Mathblade, baezu, hiraki

Not voting: havingfiz, madcirtus, fontisian,

7 alive, 4 to lynch

(expired on 2014-09-05 00:00:00)

Mod notes:
I might be out 28/29/30

[+-]

Who is the Bulge? Are they even in this game?

At +- are you still throwing spaghetti?

I am the Bulge.

No, we are a hydra, and both heads have differing scum-reads. But minus isn't here right now so I can vote Baezu. And you all should too.

The town-case on her is ridiculous.

Why?

I'll get to this later this afternoon. I'm busy right now.

Eh. Kinda wanna hammer.

I'm sure enough scum's in Baezu/+- I'm willing to be third lynch in any order of the 3 of us. Thoughts?

I'm tired of this game dragging on and on. Everyone is saying the final scum has probably given up but I'd say they're excited about the impending win because town has lazily given up. We've resorted to "let's lynch here, and then here tomorrow, and then...". There is no real scumhunting going on. I'd bet money that the final mafia is having the time of their life.

If you are town, that would cost us the game. I don't know what you were trying to pull here but it was stupid and pointless if it was a reaction test.

+

[MathBlade]

@Fonti -- I think +/- is flailing. I haven't played with them to know if town flail or scum flail. I think he is scum so scum flail is what I am thinking.

@Citrus -- I really don't think it will get that far. I would be shocked if it did. I would say let's cross that bridge if we hit it.

@+/- -- If Baezu is scum like I thought initially and they faked the unaware thing it will come up tomorrow. This disagreeing to me looks more like trying to figure out which person you want to lynch rather than who is scum.

[MathBlade]

And Citrus that wouldn't have cost is the game. There is tomorrow. Town doesn't have to worry about their life just making sure all scum die. Yeah IMO +/- is scum.

[fontisian]

I'll vote for +- after they've said their piece.

[The Bulge]

I'll vote for +- after they've said their piece.

Regardless of what we say?

[fontisian]

Be convincing.

[MathBlade]

./me needs a crickets gif

[Baezu]

+/-

Alrighty. First off, small reads for people who either 1) haven't contributed much or 2) don't matter right now.

KrazyEyeKilla7 hasn't done much of anything yet. Entrance post was a little weird, especially with there being no vote. 96 was fine, nothing particularly town or scum. His first post with actual substance is... pretty bad. Nothing new, just bringing up old irrelevant posts and not saying much about anything, followed by a fonti vote that I understand. Krazy gets a null for now until he posts more, but I don't think anything strikes me as scummy just yet.

I get that half of Transparent Obscurity is MIA, but they still haven't done much at all. Opening posts are all really fluffy with some half-assed attempts at contribution a little later, but again, not enough to pin them as scum. Absolute null.

Baezu's readslist was pretty bad imo. A lot of vagueness ("I feel like she is grasping at straws with a lot of her reads" or "He's been acting too crazy to be scum") and a lot of laziness ("Read his ISO if you need an explanation" and a bunch of unexplained reads). 272 repeats her scum reads with the same shitty reasons, despite it being nearly 100 posts later. Not one thing has changed? Not one new piece of evidence? Leaning scum but hard to pin anything down due to lack of content.

Salamence20 started the game really iffy. Every post was either "town" "scum" "town" "town" like okay give some content. Posts gradually got better. This is the first post I thought was solid. Scum don't tend to town-read people based on stuff like that. Reads looks pretty good. Finally, 149 shows a solid effort. Good post. Later posts aren't bad either. Salamence is likely town.

Here's something I'm sure you've all noticed about Grib. Why does it seem like he only pops up to post when he is directly addressed or pressured?

I'm right here

Indeed you are, Grib. Indeed you are. I really don't see Grib being town.

Interesting that this reads list came in at a post relatively early in the game and every single fos in this post is against town except for grib. This is interesting – to throw one scum in there so he can legitimize the other reads...

Masons should claim. Reduce the lynch pool.

Not a town post, asking masons to claim. Just before this post (post 516) he had “told” the third scum not to out too ;p

Other than this, he has come up with dozens of excuses why he can't won't post and thrown votes around at town.

**interesting to note** not a single vote was cast on scum in his entire ISO

Hiraki

Claims mason and should be the guy to listen to on this game day. In my mind, he is conftown and will die tonight so we need to listen to what he says for as long as we can.

Havingfitz

Not sure who he replaced or why he replaced in if he was unavailable but his only post was over a week ago. He can wait until tomorrow, especially since Hiraki doesn't think he's scum

madcitrus

Seems to be really confused with game mechanics and game state. Sheep votes. Really doesn't seem too invested in this game, but it comes across as town. He's relying on the rest of us to sweep him into victory. He's not a very good townie, but he's a townie nonetheless.

VOTE: Agent

Whoever's third scum, you should totally just reveal tmrw. You're pretty screwed

Yay for a win, after multiple lost games in a row ^^

This just seems so townie and genuine to me. Dunno, that's my thought on citrus

fontisian

It bothers me that he's convinced I'm town. It also bothers me that he tunneled on Salamance. That said, I think tunneling tends to be a town tell. Most scum don't want to draw that much attention to themselves, especially when they're tunneling on town (which salamance was). Overall, I think font is town

mathblade

I think the fact that she was unsure of the setup is points in her favor. She just seems really genuine. I'd put her after hiraki as towniest.

;tl/dr From town ->scum: hiraki, math, citrus, font, fitz, +/-

I think we have this game in the bag guys!!!

[MadCitrus]

Fuck it I'm bored

VOTE: +-

This should be in time to avoid when Ika is gone

[+-]

Ugh finally.

Fuck this team.

[ika]

Votecount Final

Baezu: +-
+-: Mathblade, baezu, hiraki, Cirtus

Not voting: havingfiz, fontisian,

7 alive, 4 to lynch

(expired on 2014-09-05 00:00:00)

Mod notes:

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[ika]

Its late so im gonna makeit breif atm:

+- was masifo

Town wins

I will give a professinal close tommorw after work and everything

all topics have been made public

[The Bulge]

Here look at me complain a bit

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=58480

[The Bulge]

This is the first time town has won in a game I was in. GG

Although this account is still clean

[Titus]

I tried so hard to draw an nk as a mason. So hard since I was lost.

[Baezu]

Gg town!

[fontisian]

:/

I'm getting pretty tired of scum giving up. Fight for the win, damn it.

[The Bulge]

:/

I'm getting pretty tired of scum giving up. Fight for the win, damn it.

I wanted to. I really really wanted to. Going into Day 3 with no suspicion on us was great. I really thought if we tried, we could pull it off. But we couldn't have done anything about the Day 4 wagon.

agent pissed me the fuck off.

That's kinda disappointing tbh

Understatement of the century.

[MathBlade]

I think the world ended. My reads were right on Fonti and Citrus and I did not tunnel them once! Lol

Baezu hey hope no hard feelings gg.

Good work town but yeah it was frustrating replacing into a game with low activity.

We won!

[MathBlade]

This is also the first game where I had zero QT posts lol. I couldn't find mine

[Titus]

Town do not have qts by default on ms.

[MathBlade]

Oh Uhm okay?

[Grib]

I apologize to +- for sucking.

idek what was up with agent, that was seriously shitty.

[Rubicon]

this was a fun game, thanks for running it ika!