Open 570: Making Friends and Enemies (Mafia Wins!)

[Nero Cain]

Its not as perfect as Titus and DGB make it out to be but I pretty much hate GM arguing against that.

FIXED!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

She is very reluctant to provide any info.

Always saying she has other things to do/re-reading, but happy to still post about theory and pointless other things.

I am almost 100% GM is scum, Josh is scum and I'm like 85% that Huntress is the 3rd.

Look how little they have interacted throughout the game. Look at the VCA.

I'm ready to end this day.

VOTE: Josh

[Nero Cain]

I could buy a Josh/GM team and am ok with voting with my team mates.

vote:Josh

[Josh_B]

Hooray. I'm back. That looks like 4 votes. I think it means the game is over.

I'm cool with that because I am so ready for this game to end. soo ready.

[Nero Cain]

I think that's only 3. Gonna make your scumbuddy bus you.

[goodmorning]

How about instead of producing these lovely stats, you start contributing something?

I mean, you keep promising it but it never comes.

We'll see if I'm right at the end of the game. I have explained why I think people are town and why this makes those people on certain wagons scum.

There are nearly 100 pages for me to go through, it's not going to be quick.

VCA is a decent scumhunting tool. Its not as perfect as Titus and DGB make it out to be but I pretty much hate GM arguing against that.

It's really not that useful, to be honest.
You can't make the assumption that a certain wagon is going to be a certain way/composed of a certain demographic.

Vote: Josh

Anyway, so we should all argue about VCA more sometime.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Both scum bussing.

Gues you both had to be on the lynch really.

Lynch GM toMorrow.

[goodmorning]

Oh Toffee.

Anyways, there are people who deliberately manipulate VCA as Scum, like lining up all Scum in a row on the same wagon and suchlike. Scum know there's an expectation about how many will be predicted on and how many will be predicted off. You know what they say, as soon as site meta is known people will manipulate it until the opposite becomes site meta, and so on. It's cyclical or something.

[Josh_B]

I'm going to invent a scum buddy and then I'm going to sign them up on MS and they're going to post in this tread and then they can bus me. because until then I"m not going to have any scum buddies in this game.

[Josh_B]

Hooray! 4 votes!

[goodmorning]

4 votes indeed.

So what do you think about VCA Josh? Like it? Loathe it? Don't care?

[Huntress]

Wagon analysis is more useful, looking at every vote, not just the final count.

Reminds me of a game I was on a scum team of four in. None of us on the first two mislynches and I think all of us were on the third.

[Josh_B]

VCA works sometimes. I guess it really depends on what information your analyzing.

It never works without cross references from other vote counts.

[Josh_B]

My opinion of the VC that's being referenced is that it makes Aegor more likely to be scum either by opportunity, or by busing.


So GM were you scum this game?

[beastcharizard]

Hello!

I am sorry I had an emergency pop up that made me unable to do my moddly duties. I am here now and it seems there was a hammer. Please hold for flavor and me counting

[beastcharizard]

Vote Count

Josh_B:(4) Huntress, BlueBloodedToffee, Nero Cain, Goodmorning

Aegor:(1) Josh_B

Not Voting:(2) Aegor, davesaz

HAMMER!!!!!!

[beastcharizard]

The day started out like all the others except for the news that one of the famed Masons had died and in the crowd were 3 mafia who had armed themselves with guns. Losing a Mason was a huge blow but BlueBloodedToffee stepped up and confessed to being the other mason. No one said otherwise so the town took it to be the truth.

BBT, using their awesome analytical skills, determined that Josh_B had to be one of the mafia. I mean, who else could it be besides them? They had small suspicions on goodmorning as well but Josh_B was the way to go today.

Everyone was debating and talking about what they should do. Eventually the town agreed to lynch Josh_B. That was their first mistake of the day.

Josh_B was...

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie[/size]

Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Vanilla Townie.

Abilities:

Your weapon is your vote, you have no night actions.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

After the town had realized their blunder they made mistake number 2, turning their back to the mafia.

Before anyone know what was happening the mafia had pulled their concealed guns and told everyone to get on the floor. Aegor didn't like this idea and booked it, hoping he would be fast enough to get away. Nero Cain cut his life short in a matter of seconds with a shot to the head.

Aegor was...

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie[/size]

Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Vanilla Townie.

Abilities:

Your weapon is your vote, you have no night actions.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

At the sight of Aegor's dead body davesaz let out a shriek. They had never seen anything like that. Huntress looked at davesaz and said: "Shut up before I make you shut up!"

davesaz wasn't able to hold back the fear and let out another sound. Huntress without mercy ended his life like it was nothing.

davesaz was...

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie[/size]

Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Vanilla Townie.

Abilities:

Your weapon is your vote, you have no night actions.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

goodmorning now looked down on a helpless BlueBloodedToffee. BBT looked up at goodmorning and said: "Please spare me. I am begging you."

goodmorning with a sadistic smile said: "Ok, I will spare you...from life." and shot BBT square between the eyes.

goodmorning was...

Spoiler: Town Mason

Town Mason

Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Town Mason, along with your partner, [Player Name].

Abilities:

Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partners here [QuickTopic link].
During one night during the game, the mason team may attempt to recruit another member. If you attempt to recruit town, they will be added to the masonry as "Recruited Mason". If you attempt to recruit mafia the attempt will fail.
You are confirmed town to your partner, and them to you.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

THE MAFIA, goodmorning, Huntress and Nero Cain win!!!!

Will post PTs if people would like them released. I don't know why anyone wouldn't want it released though.

[beastcharizard]

Dead PT: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p6271644

Mod PT: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p6221322

Neither of which are that interesting.

Wisdom was replaced for fear of having outside knowledge of the game given to them by another player. This is what you get to know for now.

[Aegor]

Why do you think Nero is town? You don't seem to have explained that anywhere. I've had a townishish vibe from him and Heph but POE is telling me he can't be, unless I'm wrong on GM which I don't think I am.

@ Aegor:

What's your read on Dave?

Vote: Josh

=/

[Aegor]

That is why we do not vote in lylo without consensus about whom to vote.

[Shinobi]

Why were people calling gm/huntress town all game?

[beastcharizard]

I would like people to rate me as a mod and tell me what I can do to improve in the future please. If it isn't too much trouble at least.

[Shinobi]

I would like people to rate me as a mod and tell me what I can do to improve in the future please. If it isn't too much trouble at least.

Outside of a lack of thread presence at certain points, I didn't have an issue with you. More experience and more activity and you'll be just fine.

[Aegor]

You were a great mod. No complaints here.

[goodmorning]

PERFECT WIN AWW YISS

I got so apathy though.

Why were people calling gm/huntress town all game?

Fuck if I know.

I wish this had ended sooner 'cause Wisdom was all bragging in the Hydra Micro that he knew what gm-scum looked like and I just wanted to be like "bitch pls wisdom"

I mean, I was Scum there, but still.

@Mod: You did fine. Accommodating, pleasant, etc.