Open 574: Stack the Deck [ABANDONED]

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mod and other players: would you be willing to reboot this game with the same setup and players?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I very much enjoyed playing with you all.

[Riddleton]

Here's some miore stuff I have to say about this game:

a) I'm surprised ABR is scum. Alchemist's meta was genuine and ABR did a good job playing against that. I thought ABR was strong-town the entire game and it does surprise me he is scum. I think the only thing that would have given ABR away was the bussing on wgeurts.

b) Wgeurts I was happy to give a free pass because of newbie play. He probably would have got lynched later down the road though, and I think after that an ABR lynch would have been possible because of ABR's weird bussing on wgeurts.

c) Texcat, I knew the claim was fake! I didn't buy the claim and found it fishy throughout the game. I don't believe, particularly in closed setups (but sort of true in semi-opens, albeit less so), that someone should be immediately pardened and unvoted because of a claim. Claims don't decide whether someone is town, their behaviour does. I found texcat very scummy, my second lynch candidate after rm, and wasn't convinced on giving him a free pass because of a claim. That's why I waited for a CC, and also proposed explanations as to how scum could fakeclaim a role under pressure. MathDino's maths was right, but as I said in the thread, just because something isn't completely optimal doesn't mean it's impossible.

d) I'm slightly disappointed at RM's play. I feel he should have posted more, in my opinion, and said more solid reads. If he did that, he woudln't have been wagoned in the first place and he would have been more useful to us. Don't be shy, you shuold speak up, tell us why you feel someone's behaviour is scummy and elaborate on your reads and thoughts in-game.

I welcome all comments and insults about my play. I hope you all enjoyed playing with me as much as I enjoyed playing with you!

[Riddleton]

Mod and other players: would you be willing to reboot this game with the same setup and players?

I would be very interested, yes!

[droog]

Mod and other players: would you be willing to reboot this game with the same setup and players?

yes please
you all were great

[Mathdino]

4thing restarting the game. Cool playerlist.

[Alchemist21]

/5th for reboot.

Also, from now on I'll try to be more careful in my meta research. The fact that I noticed ABR's scum meta beginning to match his town meta should have been my red flag that he was aware of it and could manipulate it. 20/20 hindsight and all that.

[texcat]

Yeah, and I mean, going through wgeurts's meta (I even accidentally read some of his games trying to meta other people), there's definitely a lot of that.

texcat, you said you knew I was RB, how'd you figure that? Was it just because I believed you too hard? All the mathematical stuff pretty much came out of my ass, haha. I admit there were quite a few logical fallacies in there.

Edit: nuuuuuu

Yep. It wasn't until after my claim. I started out on D1 thinking you were the traitor cause you were defending Wg. Y'all still don't have access to our scum thread?

I'd be willing to give it another go. But I want to be the vig this time.

[texcat]

You are just proving that it was right to try to kill you N1, riddleton.

[Mathdino]

To comment on Riddle's play, the fact that he writes up a Riddlecase on everyone's play when the game is already over says something about his quality as a player xD

[texcat]

Though droog might have a good choice too. He was suspicious of Wg from the get go, and didn't let go.

[Alchemist21]

Who would you have killed N2?

[Albert B. Rampage]

dino I presume

[Mathdino]

Which is funny because I kept bragging about how unlikely it was that I was going to die.

Whoops.

[wgeurts]

/5th reboot
Yeah you lot should read the scum thread, it basically is 3 pages of plotting.

[theslimer3]

It was a very interesting setup. Me likey

[Randomnamechange]

I was also amazed at how scummy Wg appeared. Perhaps because I knew he was scum. And yet no matter what he did, lying, misrepresenting, forcing claims, yall excused him and continued to find him town.

Not everyone

Lol, I have a blind spot for seeing the line between newbie-play and scummy play, it seems. I suppose I'm too hesitant to start a wagon against someone where the points against them could have been easily explained by being new to MS's meta.

I was playing like a newbie after like 5 games

Mod and other players: would you be willing to reboot this game with the same setup and players?

Mod and other players: would you be willing to reboot this game with the same setup and players?

I would be very interested, yes!

I'm up for it (no. 6)

It was a very interesting setup. Me likey

My second favourite set up after fire and ice.

[Mathdino]

You guys can totally count

That's 8 for reboot, and Aronis and DGB are probably not checking in, so 8/10 of living players. And 8/9 of living non-lurking players.

[Riddleton]

We've got the majority for the reboot so it should happen!

[Riddleton]

@mod: You should make the scum thread + Dead thread viewable to us. Thanks!

[Randomnamechange]

I'm really hoping I get to be scum

[Alchemist21]

I'm mot sure whether or not to signup for another open game before we hear from Saki about a reboot.

[Saki]

From the list mods: games that have been ongoing for over a month are 'unsalvageable' and can't be restarted.

I'm really sorry, everyone. Good luck in your other games.

[Saki]

@mod: You should make the scum thread + Dead thread viewable to us. Thanks!

Done.

Access it here or via the link in the Mod PT.

[Mathdino]

I suggest we kill ABR, after looking at his meta he seems to be a good town player. Also, I don't like how I just meta town confirmed him, we need suspicion and that won't work with him. We can let dino live for a while as he's bad at scum hunting, fort we need to kill the real threats.