Open 591: C9++, The Lunatic Ayslum (Game Over: Town Win!)
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if MD claims vanilla, the lynch really should be Ot or I. just seems to make sense to me. Unless "shenanigans". I will be voting Ot, the BBT kill points a finger at him. I imagine they would have killed me because I pushed so hard for the roleblocker lynch (marcel), but it was pretty obvious I would have gone after Alchemist today...which clearly would have played to their favor..
when I get some time, I will be rereading yesterday's lynch.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE- RedCoyote
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for the record (put on your reverse WIFOM pants) as scum, I would be saying the same thing... as scum, I would want to look as town as possible, pushing for anyone else today other than Ot and myself doesnt make sense at this point in the game.
thats all blah blah blah though.
speaking of scumhunting though..
RC
you said this AFTER you got a guilty on Marcrel
In post 762, RedCoyote wrote:I don't want to lynch DLAuntil I know what Marcrell's alignment is.It makes a big difference to me. DLA came on too strong in favor of sparing Marcrell (which I do not think gels with what he's said about him in the past).
That said, if Marcrell is town, then DLA was probably right to try and push on the brakes.
work me through your thought process here.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE- RedCoyote
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but if you had been killed (without a Marcrell flip) if we read that post, what would we think?
by the way, I spent 30 minutes tonight, looking for your cop (to include 1 shot) and mafia games to see if you have ever breadcrumb cop as either...I havent found one yet. want to help me out? have you done it before as either?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE- Lucky2u
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In post 904, RedCoyote wrote:Rest assured everything I said on D2 was in an effort to get Marcrell lynched without letting on that I was a cop. I wanted it to appear that I was just tunneling Marcrell as a VT.
I don't know that I believe this... So in other words... I don't.- Otolia
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In post 903, RedCoyote wrote:Because I didn't want to be shot... I wasn't going to say "btw, I know Marcrell is scum but don't ask me how I know".
That's a very weak argument. You pushed one of their members to their death. What makes you think they don't want to kill you regardless of your role ?- curiouskarmadog
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I think I almost got a plan!!!! (of course working on the assumption MD is going to say vanilla)
I think that the remaining scum is probably Otolia (goon) and one of DLA/MD (gf). If that is the case, the plan is perfect....
right now, running the "if then than this" scenarios if one of the claimed cops are scum. I think it is doable, I am just trying to figure it out. God I wish I was smarter...and had more time. will work on it on the road.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE- curiouskarmadog
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In post 851, Otolia wrote:Any reason besides I apparently understand the setup better than everyone else here ?
why arent you working on trying to break this nut? Is that because you already know it can?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE- Randomnamechange
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Randomidget, you are assuming RC is indeed a town cop. It is only in that case that there is a godfather.
You are willing to lynch someone you got an innocent on under the assumptions that:
1) RC is town cop
2) MD is in fact the godfather.
...which should imply that there are far better lynches from your perspective.
Why are you so quick to assume RC is town? And what do you stand to gain from both of you—given that you are cops—investigating?- wgeurts
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The mafia have decided to surrender, the town wins!
The Mafia: Marcrell, Otolia and mnemonicdevice loose, as does the Serial Killer Reubus Swagrid. All other players are town aligned, they are the victors!
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Mafia Thread: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=61192
Dead Thread: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=61315"i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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My thoughts:
The town managed to bloc (even if they didn't always voice it) very early on, the SK kill also messed up the mafia's chances of success as well. Rolling 2 cops is horribly town sided to start with, then when the mafia missed twice, lost the SK and mafia roleblocker I can understand they gave up. MD really should of requested replacement as he couldn't really play like this.
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Great game guys, I really enjoyed it!
Pretty happy with how I played overall, got derailed a little later in the game but can't complain.
As Wguerts said, we formed a good town bloc pretty early on and it was only a matter of time from there.
Yeah, Reubus, that was crazy. You just fight it till the end. I've never rolled 3rd party before, would love to see what it's like.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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So I decided to throw the towel. The game wasn't lost per se (there was a way to win for us) but with MD absence, I couldn't go forward with it. When RC claimed cop, I knew we were fucked massively since I was expecting another PR and didn't really prepare for that.
Here are the two scenarii that allow us to win depending on MD's claim :
If he claims VT, we need to lynch one of CKD or DLA today. The cop will investigate the remaining one, so we have 50% chance of killing the right cop or we lose. Assuming we get the right cop. Someone else is cleared and we have 3confTown with 2 non-guilty result. Then we need to convince town to lynch the other who isn't named MD and then we win (2scum vs. town)
If he claims Cop, we need to get lynch one of the cop today, kill someone, lynch the other cop (while avoiding the guilty on me !), kill someone else, then we have won (2scum vs. town) -- There is more leeway in this scenario since we can get to a 3p LyLo as well.
All in all, it wasn't very enjoyable for me because I couldn't adapt to the playing style of marcrell and MD. I played every day as well as I could given the circumstances so I don't have too much regret. My nights however weren't as productive as they should have been.
Also I enjoyed a bit more leeway than I should have by playing the dumb guy at some points which I won't be able to do again with any of you. I'll post player commentary on everyone in the week.- BlueBloodedToffee
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In post 922, Otolia wrote:What makes you think that ?
You left a confirmed town alive. Twice.
Just narrowing the lynch pool down for yourselves.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now. - BlueBloodedToffee
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