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[Corinthian]

vote gimbo.

that constant animated licking annoys the shit out of me.

[Corinthian]

In the random voting stage, it is of absolutely no significance who you vote for, because of the fact that you are only doing going to keep the vote until somebody sparks conversation.

Yeah, but the conversation is often about who voted for whom, and why.

[Corinthian]

'Scummy' behaviour is often to try and make the metaphorical mountain out of a molehill, to exxagerate the importance of an insignificant thing in order to convince the town to lynch an innocent.

Yep, that seems to fit your vote on LlamaFluff pretty good.

QFT. I think the people jumping on the Llamawagon look a lot scummier than Llama himself at this point.

[Corinthian]

You know, my vote on Gimbo was random.

I'm going to

unvote

for the moment- I don't have a lot of time right now, and I need to reread the thread and see if I really think Gimbo is the best choice for a lynch.

[Corinthian]

hey ya'all, what do you want me to explain?

I want to hear the answer to Tommy's question.

[Corinthian]

Vote:Gimbo
I dont think that even warrants an explanation.

Townies don't make FoS's with no explanation

Is that a contradiction?

I added on the "warrants no explanation" under the impression that everyone already knew why I was voting, because he had JUST said that he was scum.

1.The basis behind my vote (which I stated I had every intent on removing, and I followed through) was because of Gimbo's "hunch". There cannot be any hunches in this game, because soon it will turn from an innocent FoS to a townie being lynched because of a "hunch".

Again, a contradiction. Immediately following his vote, slaine said everyone should know he voted because Gimbo said he was scum. Now, he's saying it was because of Gimbo's "hunch."

Also, I don't agree with the slippery slope argument made in the last quote.

[Corinthian]

I agree, Dattebayo is the best choice now, and we've gotten good results from this "hurry-up" style.

vote: Dattebayo

[Corinthian]

Skitzer, I'm a him.

I don't like Dattebayo's doc claim.

Easy enough claim to make... I doubt we'll hear a counterclaim, as that'd be exposing the doc for any remaining scum, but I wouldn't think we'd have two docs. Also conveniently an unproveable claim...

QFT

Also, remember there was no guarantee that this game was balanced. We might not have a doc at all. (It could even be a safeclaim for scum.)

I'm keeping my vote on Dattebayo. He's been scummy from the beginning, and I think this doc claim is a trick.

[Corinthian]

Dattebayo was scummy all D1. His vote for Slaine was an obvious bus.

As to his doc claim:

vote: #44

Tomorrow = Dattebayo

Why the hell would Dattebayo choose to protect Phoebus N2?

[Corinthian]

I think Phoebus said it best.

dattebayo agrees with me re Slaine.
However, he sticks with a FoS on him. Throws one out at Cave for good measure.
he agrees with my thoughts on Slaine and those thoughts include my statement regarding Gimbo.
yet....dattebayo is still voting Gimbo but points FoS at Slaine.

So easy to bus him with...at a later point...when Gimbo turns out pro town.
But then...1 for 1 might not be a bad deal...
Eh dattescum?

Dattebayo voted Gimbo, whose meta is apparently always scummy, and switched to Slaine when it became clear that the town was turning in that direction. He's seemed eager to join whatever wagon he can.

(Where is Phoebus anyway?)

[Corinthian]

Okay, let's do this thing.

I am a cop.

Night One I investigated skitzer, because he was suspicious of me early on. Result: INNOCENT

Night Two I chose Dattebayo, because the general town consensus was that he was scummiest. Result: GUILTY

[Corinthian]

FFB is innocent.

I don't know why I'm not dead.

[Corinthian]

Look: If I'm a sane cop, then our two choices are Gimbo and Gojira. (Which makes it seem a little odd to me that Gojira is the one who said Gimbo must be the mason partner of Phoebus.)

FFB could be the mason, too, let's not forget. (I investigated him because he hadn't been active at all.)

I think Gimbo is more likely scum. In his first posts of the day, he says

I doubt Gojira being scum, and skitzer's case is only a bit stronger than Gojira but most likely not scum

Then after I post, saying FFB is confirmed innocent, he tries to cast doubt as to whether I'm really a cop, then says

I am not scum and if you are presumably not scum and neither is FFB, then it must be either skitzer or Gojira.

The two people he just said weren't scum are suddenly his two top suspects! Immediately following, he remembers that skitzer is one of my confirmed innocents, and goes for Gojira.

Look Gojira, we lynch you today, if you are scum, all the best, if you are NOT scum, then Corinthian MUST be lying about either skitzer or FFB being innocent and town will DEFINITELY kill Corinthian tomorrow. Either way town wins.

How many scum do you think we have left? We've been right with the lynch every single time so far- is it possible that there are two scum remaining? Do I need to explain how: if Gojira is town, that does not necessarily prove that two of Corinth, skitzer and FFB are scum? Do I need to point out that even if I were scum, that wouldn't mean I MUST have been lying about skitzer or FFB?

(I do also think it's a little strange that both Gimbo and Gojira "forgot" that skitzer is confirmed innocent and wanted to vote him. Although, I'm willing to believe that Gojira was reading Gimbo's skitzer vote and that confused him.)

Not to mention the way Gimbo jumped on Gojira's suggestion that he was Phoebus's mason buddy. Again, it is strange that Gojira would suggest that, given that if it were true, it would mean he was the only possible scum choice.

As to the "might there be no cop?" question, I ask you, what would be the point of giving Slaine Hayes the "godfather" role, if there were no cop to investigate him?

Vote: Gimbo

[Corinthian]

If Gimbo's assuming there's one scum left, then

if you (Gojira) are NOT scum, then Corinthian MUST be lying about either skitzer or FFB being innocent

makes no sense.

[Corinthian]

Gojira being town in no way shape or form means Corinth must be the scum.

If we vote Gojira and he's town,

then we lynch Gimbo

the next day.

@Gojira: why did you say Gimbo must be the mason? Did you realize that makes you obvscum?

Where the hell is FFB? We need a replacement.

I'm not voting Gojira because Gimbo is making a nonsensical argument with invalid proof against a claimed cop.

If Gimbo's assuming there's one scum left, then

Quote:

if you (Gojira) are NOT scum, then Corinthian MUST be lying about either skitzer or FFB being innocent

makes no sense.

Corinthian: my post makes sense, IF Gojira is not scum (1% chance), then you must be scum, because I don't see why a pro-town role of any kind would need to lie about the alignment of other players.

Lets try this again. (Gimbo is either scum talking in circles, or a moron.)
If Corinthian is scum, and there's only one scum left, then Corinth WASN'T lying about skitzer or FFB being innocent.

Gimbo's case against Corinth is based on the point that pro-town wouldn't lie about alignments.

If Corinth is scum, Corinth never lied.

Gimbo's arguments make no sense. He's continually trying to make it seem like if Gojira is town, then Corinth is the next day's logical lynch, based on a case that makes no logical sense.

I say we lynch Gimbo, and if he turns out to be a stupid townie, then we lynch Gojira the next day.

[Corinthian]

I agree.

Something else- mod said there is no guarantee that the game is balanced. could that mean there was only one mason?

[Corinthian]

Well, okay then. I suppose that rules out the idea of two godfathers as well.

Gojira hasn't posted since the 30th.

Town, should I wait for Gojira to claim, or go ahead and hammer?

[Corinthian]

So Gimbo's calling out Gojira for saying that a claimed cop might be scum.

Which is exactly what Gimbo was saying earlier in the day.

[Corinthian]

Good game FFB, great hammer.

Great game town. I haven't played on this site before, are there a lot of games with no mislynches?

(Gimbo, I still think you're scum.)