Mini Normal 2148 (Post Game)

[Malakittens]

Herrrrrrro everyone.

VOTE: ns

Also HK50 posting style is funny.
I kinda have to agree with Dunn that I saw Vot’s post regarding HK50 as a “why do they know so much about his posting style”

[Malakittens]

Now taking a deeper look into HT50. If one of Vot or HT50 flips scum I’m ok with them being partnered. This is HT50’s first game. I obv get it that’s it’s an alt account. But the whole knowledge felt off to me

[Malakittens]

Then again I’m not a star wars fan so maybe Vot is a huge fan bc the reference didn’t come straight to mind

[Malakittens]

Herrrrrrro everyone.

VOTE: ns

Also HK50 posting style is funny.
I kinda have to agree with Dunn that I saw Vot’s post regarding HK50 as a “why do they know so much about his posting style”

I have feeling who HK 50 might be.

Might be another player that likes the odd fun gimmick.

I don’t mind the odd fun gimmick. IDK i just read Vot’s as he has more information that others has, but I guess that more because I’m not a Star Wars fan and not something that’s AI. I’m letting it go for now, but just note that it’s something that’s on the back burner if one of them flips scum.

[Malakittens]

Now taking a deeper look into HT50.

If one of Vot or HT50 flips scum I’m ok with them being partnered. This is HT50’s first game. I obv get it that’s it’s an alt account. But the whole knowledge felt off to me

[Query:]

Addtionally, what was the extent of this "deeper look"? What methodology was used?

Your total topic. I don’t know who your main is and honestly I’m not going to waste the little time I have to try to sort it out. You’re playing an old gimmick and that’s fine with me. As long as it doesn’t interfere with trying to sort you I’m ok with that.

[Malakittens]

Sorry to say, but I'm not a big fan of the gimmick. It makes it a bit of a chore to read the thread. It feels bad to vote them because of it and it feels bad to parse the posts.

Also, all the talk about past games is confusing. Could I convince you all to either stop/limit it or explain it to those of us who lack the context to interpret it?

It would be in bad taste to just justify a vote and a possible lynch off just that.

I hate to say it, but I used to sort people due to old game meta, but I have been offline for quite a few years. I still might actually do it because I do know a few of the players in this game.

I feel bad to those who weren’t around when the 2013-meta block was active because once we sort each other out I feel like this game will take an interesting toll.

UNVOTE: Notty

Also mod can I ask you to add how many players it takes to lynch to end a day. I’d like to not do math on my time off, thank you.

Noted. By my count, it is 7 to lynch. I'll post that in the next VC. -Jake

[Malakittens]

I haven’t really stated it’s a solid scum read. I said I’m back burning it for now, but if one of them flips scum I’m looking into the other as a possible partner. If I truely thought they were scum I’d have voted there.

Hey at least the game is out of RVS now.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: Malakittens

You are mafia

Por que?

[Malakittens]

I said it’s on the back burner. It’s just the way he said it seemed off. Again, I am probably one of the few people in the world who has never watched Star Wars and nor do I have any willingness to do it. So the gimmick wasn’t knowledge until I actually looked it up on line. So sue me if I thought it was something else. I already mentioned in a previous post that it’s prob not something that is AI, but something I just didn’t pick up because I didn’t know much regarding SW.

[Malakittens]

I’m not voting you yet mala but I’m worried my fears are true

No, I’m town I’m just having a rocky start.

[Malakittens]

also obviously mala's suspicion of votato is bad, and her back-burner nonsense is silly, but lol nonetheless at farside and notscience

It’s okay. I have heard worse and insulting thing and that’s not the first thing that came to mind.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: Malakittens

You are mafia

Por que?

I don't like the way you went about the early game, votato + hk50, and then the notscience vote

You mean my first post out of the gate? I’m sorry that on gut reaction that I read it as partners also. As for the Notty vote he knew it was coming because we used to be the bestest of friends. I’m not gonna apologize for my RVS, sorry not sorry.

[Malakittens]

For the record anything related to not science I’ll prob end up calling him Notty. That is his nickname to me. ~

[Malakittens]

I don't want you to apologize, I want you to die

That’s not happening, but you can dream.

[Malakittens]

I didn’t think wagoning mala would be fruitful at this point in time and wanted to let it develop

You’re still voting her.

Hate to say it, but that’s not par from the course for Notty.

[Malakittens]

It will prob remain on me until he gets a solid scum read that he death tunnels

<3 ya

[Malakittens]

You know I’m glad I played a game with you before because that comment is just eh.

[Malakittens]

I’d lower the bar. I’m below average nowadays.~

[Malakittens]

Alright guys I admit I missed the Star Wars reference and i took it a bit too serious. I am admitting that. So can we move on?

[Malakittens]

You know I’m glad I played a game with you before because that comment is just eh.

Yeah, I'm glad there are a few people here I've played with so my day1ness wont be too much of a problem

The last game was fun and so tiring at the same time. Although i did get some fun out of punishing scum for no killing twice. Ild find it hilarious if it turns out mala has infact rolled scum again after repping into that game.

Have I? That’s news to me. My role PM definitely states town.

[Malakittens]

Oh if only I read.

I’m also really bored and I’m stuck on A rig for another 5 hrs waiting for calls so if anyone wants to engage wit me to discuss I’m game

[Malakittens]

Hm. I really did just like HK 137. But I want to see how that progresses

[Malakittens]

That post has a bad gut feeling, but will wait for redemption

[Malakittens]

What the fuck is my reaction to the current battle Mages posts.

@Notty:

Right now scum wise I’m kinda getting some pings, but nothing solid as of yet. {Vot, Dunn, BM}
I have more town pings than scum pings. {HK, bob}

[Malakittens]

OMGUS Malakittens? what is your reaction to my posts?

I’m trying to figure where your head is at with self voting and the woe is me with the other posts. IDK the last set of posts are just coming off strange.

The whole “I’m going to do a guess” doesn’t really strike me as a real case/vote.

Then why don’t you vote me and actually get a case? I’m not scared.

[Malakittens]

Hm. I really did just like HK 137. But I want to see how that progresses

That post has a bad gut feeling, but will wait for redemption

[Interrogation:

Master Malakitten, you have made several posts showing a stance without explaining it nor fully committing to it. Please explain your pings. Has the interaction with master bob3141 reached a finite conclusion read wise considering you town ping both of us?

Right now I’m liking bob’s posts. The way he’s going about is very similar to the last game we played together. I’m starting to see you scum hunting while you’re using your gimmick. A lot of players that use gimmicks hide behind it and don’t actually scum hunt. So that give me town pings.

Where as Battle Mange is the post I was referring to that felt a scum ping IMO. That’s way before he even thought I was OMGUSing him.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: Vot.

[Malakittens]

So we moved from video game debate to vernacular debate

don't get medical with me!

Wait we are getting medical?!? That’s my area of expertise

[Malakittens]

Sorry to say, but I'm not a big fan of the gimmick. It makes it a bit of a chore to read the thread. It feels bad to vote them because of it and it feels bad to parse the posts.

Also, all the talk about past games is confusing. Could I convince you all to either stop/limit it or explain it to those of us who lack the context to interpret it?

It would be in bad taste to just justify a vote and a possible lynch off just that.

@malakittens: Why did you feel the need to point this out? I am curious. Ghost implied no intention to vote for him or justify a lynch for him -- but you randomly come to defend against a lynch/vote for HK50? How come?

Well back in my time... (yes I’m that old).. people used to policy lynch people for gimmicks. I hate the policy lynches because it really only helps scum (unless that player is scum) because it wastes a day of potential scum hunting and also would potentially eliminate one threat. I just wanted to throw it out there that I’m against policy lynches.

[Malakittens]

Hm. I really did just like HK 137. But I want to see how that progresses

That post has a bad gut feeling, but will wait for redemption

[Interrogation:

Master Malakitten, you have made several posts showing a stance without explaining it nor fully committing to it. Please explain your pings. Has the interaction with master bob3141 reached a finite conclusion read wise considering you town ping both of us?

Right now I’m liking bob’s posts. The way he’s going about is very similar to the last game we played together. I’m starting to see you scum hunting while you’re using your gimmick. A lot of players that use gimmicks hide behind it and don’t actually scum hunt. So that give me town pings.

Where as Battle Mange is the post I was referring to that felt a scum ping IMO. That’s way before he even thought I was OMGUSing him.

[Rebuttal:]

I can understand the town pings, but do you also have knowledge of scum!bob3141?

I understand the context of the master battle mage ping. I'm asking you to explain what in the original post sticks out as scummy in your eyes.

I have not personally seen scum bob, have you?

I guess looking back on BM posts it looks like he was kidding at the end, but it feels weird to just jump onto a big wagon when we aren’t in RVS. It just felt ~weird~ and then coupled by the rest of his posts I have no clue what to do with him. It’s just he’s all over the place, but he isn’t a new player so that excuse is not valid.

[Malakittens]

I’ll be catching up prob sometime tm. I need to sleep before training on my new job. (I’ll try to see if I can’t catch up on break)

Also for those asking why I voted Vot. I wanted to see if I could beetlejuice him into the thread and get some content going with him. So it was more of a pressure vote.

@notty:
The answer to ur question is yes. I have seen him play like he described

[Malakittens]

I’m
Finding Dunn more cyrpotic this game

[Malakittens]

I remember the first time I played with you where getting a read on you was like trying to get blood out of stone.

I have never seen something more accurate.

[Malakittens]

I’ts very hard considering I’m having trouble figuring you out rn

[Malakittens]

I’m trying to catch up on the last posts from Monday night and I can’t. There’s walls and cryptic posts and then one liners.

[Malakittens]

I have some ideas and a possible lead on one particular player who I feel is likely to flip scum, but I don't currently want to distract away from both the Dunnstral push and the Geriantm push, because I

really

want to see more from both of them. So, Dunnstral and geriantm, if either of you are town please help me by eliminating yourself as a distraction, and showing pro-town, gamesolving intent.

I think people should be less focused on me, personally

I mean I’d love you to actually explain your reads without one liners or being cryptic as hell. Is that too much to ask?

So why exactly are you voting me if it’s not because I didn’t get a reference.

[Malakittens]

So Dunn is not supporting any counterwagons. Hmm... that makes me think, that he's not out for scum self-preservation? It's not super strong conviction, but it just doesn't make sense if he is scum. His ploy would have to be "I'm going to play super nonchalant here to get people off my wagon without pushing any counterevidence that could lead others elsewhere and off of my tracks." That is a hard scum strategy to indeed play and convince others of, so I'm not currently getting a scum vibe out of that. I think we are better off lynching elsewhere today.

VOTE: GC

I actually disagree with this tell for a few reasons especially when you’re playing with more experienced people and/or early in the game days.

[Malakittens]

proxy vote to mala

Don’t let them do dumb shit while I’m away tia

Lol

I don’t remember if i have ever seen you do this before.

[Malakittens]

[Ineffectual mentality:]

Currently my circuits are quite encumbered by vast amounts of backproccesses.

In the mundane sense, I'm the equivalent of being "very tired and stressed" for an organic.

As such, I shall not come to correct you all on who scum is just yet no no no. I am going to enjoy a nice long diagnostic in my quarters. However, to avoid being struck with the very overdue prod, know this: master Dunnstral still looks scummy. This is not the prod dodge you are looking for.

[Statement:]

I also wasnt aware you could actually give another player control of your vote. Interesting.

Same. I thought he was joking until the vote count and it looks like I might actually have control of his vote.

[Malakittens]

you're awfully defensive GC. your tone doesn't seem very town to me.

in fact, you remind me a lot of mathblade!scum. If others aren't sold on GC so far outside of the ones on his wagon, I can show you similarities between GC's game this game and a game I played where Mathblade was scum, because in some ways they have been strikingly similar.

[Malakittens]

Kinda feeling a TvT on Stun/GC.

Also don’t agree with placing someone else meta on another player. I mean I have my own tell with Mathblade!scum and if I had to admit that GC did trigger that tell, he did, but unless they are the same player (which they arent) I’m not going to scum read him due to it.

[Malakittens]

So I’m prob gonna leave Gera alone at least for D1. I don’t really like the “I’m bad at D1”, but I do know where’s he’s been and I have experienced it. I just don’t want to let that be a smokescreen for him being scum.

[Malakittens]

I’m actually p shocked though that bOb still has his vote on Gera.

As for the GC vs BM discussion. I actually did like how BM did come back to explain his read, but I do get GC point about it taking forever.

Notty I think is town because I don’t think scum!notty would be willing to give his vote temp to me That easily and I like how he changed his read on me in terms of when he was sorting me.

[Malakittens]

Also there’s something not sitting right with me about SG vote, but I have to go look at his ISO. I need to sleep though for my rotation. I gotta be up in a few hours so I’ll do it while I’m on the tour

I just want a placeholder so I remember to do so

[Malakittens]

So I’m prob gonna leave Gera alone at least for D1. I don’t really like the “I’m bad at D1”, but I do know where’s he’s been and I have experienced it. I just don’t want to let that be a smokescreen for him being scum.

I get it, I do. I want to be better at day 1s, and pester me by all means on my thoughts, and i'll do my best to give them.

I used to be extremely Lynchable Day1 and then all of a sudden it changed. I’m not sure if it’s because of the players I been playing with or I have become more transparent. Just the more effort you do the easier it will become and you’ll eventually find your footing.

[Malakittens]

I’m like where have I seen clidd before and I remember now~

[Malakittens]

Alright so my problem with SG is that he flipped so easily between BM and GC after he kept hounding that GC is scum because of similarities of tells between other players. Then stated that BM doesn’t feel like scum bc he wouldn’t sort out NM due to meta. Then just flops

It’s like an odd flop. That’s what bothered me is I’m like I read SG going after GC but why is he voting Bm?!?

[Malakittens]

I hate to say it but I’m still ok with a Dunn lynch. As much as I didn’t like BM’s posts.. the SG flop is going to be a turn off right now in terms of voting there until I sort that out. Gera is off the table for today, but note I’m not sold on him being scum
Or town. He’s really null for me; the same with NM.

[Malakittens]

I do it to get that glare from you farside

I hate to say it but I’m still ok with a Dunn lynch. As much as I didn’t like BM’s posts.. the SG flop is going to be a turn off right now in terms of voting there until I sort that out. Gera is off the table for today, but note I’m not sold on him being scum
Or town. He’s really null for me; the same with NM.

What do you think of GC's reaction and comments about BM and SG?

I mean I’m kinda leaning on GC being town. I like SC being town as well. BM I’m kinda leaning as scum. Going to wait for clidd to post though. I *mean* I understand that SC is scum reading them both, but I feel like he’s lining up lynches, but I still think he’s town for all his posts. I feel like he is trying to scum hunt which is good.

[Malakittens]

I hate to say it but I’m still ok with a Dunn lynch. As much as I didn’t like BM’s posts.. the SG flop is going to be a turn off right now in terms of voting there until I sort that out. Gera is off the table for today, but note I’m not sold on him being scum
Or town. He’s really null for me; the same with NM.

My gut feeling is that dun is town. As i just can't see scum blatantly making blank votes on a player claiming to scum read him and the other going wagon. It feels too blatant for scum. Would have thought that if he is scum then he would have tried dressing it up, instead he simply posts a series of quotes and doesn't say why they lead him to scum reading not mafia.

Would scum real vote for someone when their last comment on that player was that he had in fact had no read on them. If he was scum i would have expected something along the lines of something between a few short sentences to several paragraphs.

I can totally see scum making blank votes. The fact he’s being cyrpitc and won’t explain his votes makes me think there’s no case to begin with and he’s hiding behind blank votes.

[Malakittens]

What was the reasoning behind your vote on me then?

[Malakittens]

VOTE: clidd

Be willing to vote for Dunn.

[Malakittens]

I had a rough day, there’s no way I’m posting until Wed.

Mod: I’m VLA til Wed. Giving my vote as a proxy to nottyscience

[Malakittens]

Alright I didn’t think you get prodded while being on VLA.
I’ll be back either tn after my shifts or early Wednesday morning around 8am EST.

Welcome Porkens! Look forward to seeing some content~

[Malakittens]

So how is it we are less than a day away from the day ending and we aren’t even close to lynching someone??

Also not_mafia is bothering me.

I don’t really like Porken’s posts, but i‘M trying to give him a chance.

@farside: I don’t think scum!notty would stop a potential tunnel, but I feel like town!notty would notice that he’s following into his normal tunnel and to try to stop and let players rest feels town motivated. He is one of my stronger reads so i felt better ok giving my vote especially when my head wasn’t in this game or anywhere in general

[Malakittens]

Excuse u

[Malakittens]

Excuse u

I don’t have time to deal with this tonight and I’m just getting annoyed in my skims

Feel u.

I had a beer Foe the first time since Jan.

[Malakittens]

I’m actually p shocked though that bOb still has his vote on Gera.

As for the GC vs BM discussion. I actually did like how BM did come back to explain his read, but I do get GC point about it taking forever.

Notty I think is town because I don’t think scum!notty would be willing to give his vote temp to me That easily and I like how he changed his read on me in terms of when he was sorting me.

OKAY FARAIDE

FAME ON

[Malakittens]

Not for today, he was quite resolute in his pushes, which weren't going to happen, in the face of him and the Scratchings slot getting run up

Or maybe he is scum that didn’t think it was a threat !!????!!?!???

[Malakittens]

I hope
I either pass out or not spam
This thread

[Malakittens]

^^^ you jumped ahead 300 posts.

But skimming those 600s posts makes me wonder:

@Mala:

has ns pocketed you? what are your thoughts on ns?

He’s awesome and I miss him.

Idk if he’s pocketed me. I doubt it though

[Malakittens]

Who the hell is scratchings

Or Maris

Goddammit NM I’m equally angry at you if that was a troll post or a real post with names for real players you made up.

that would take *effort*. ill go through and make *effort* day 2, or if it seems like the porkens wagon is really falling apart. theres a lot of gut, and it takes time for my brain to catch up with my gut.

Effort pls n thx.

i wont be offended that you dont think im a god.


thats a lie, im pretty hurt.

Paragods exist

[Malakittens]

Can we lynch potatoe

I still like him for scum

Because of...
You guessed it..
Gut

[Malakittens]

Why

[Malakittens]

But the thing you said is I never called town Notty.
I just proved that was a lie.
What we OT not it’s weak in your eyes
I still called him town
And then had to take a mental health vacation and have my vote to him

So take your twist

[Malakittens]

I was told I never called you town. Also states that
It was odd I gave my vote to u.

I did state you were town.

[Malakittens]

Nottt my last sets of posts was regarding far side calling me out for not calling u town but ommitinf the very post
Which I did call u town in
Then tries to dismiss it again by calling my reads weak

But again it shows Lies

[Malakittens]

There's no stopping me once I get goin'
Put a can in my hand, man I'm wide ass open
The tick tock of that clock is like a time bomb
By half past ten I'm half past tipsy
At quarter to twelve, man I've done had plenty
The countdown's on when the first beer hits me
Five, four, three, two, one
Too many

VOTE: Dunn

[Malakittens]

“Now I've never been the kind to quit
Won't stop till I get to the bottom of this
And the night's still young
So what you say we shotgun one?”


Ayeeee

Let’s do it guys

[Malakittens]

VOTE: votato

[Malakittens]

Does anyone have experience with scum Dunnstral? I have only played with town Dunnstral as scum to my recollection (2 times).

I know that as town he is not the hardest player to sort, but he still is a little bit tricky. He is easier to sort than nm for sure.

Also, he might get easier by the day, but he also might not. So I am not totally against a lynch there, but would just prefer to keep him in for two reasons. One is he is one of the few players I have experience with, so I might be able to read him better as the game progresses. And two, I do not really find what he has done so far to be super scummy, and if anything the push against him gives me a slight intuition he might be town. I could be wrong there, and I would like to see him post more, but I am not super suspicious.

I do think it is very likely, however, that if one Votato/Dunn is scum, the other is not, and should be assumed to be town. I just don't see them as connected, as votato has made very little mention of Dunn in his posts and Dunn throwing votato out of the blue as a scum partner to someone... wouldn't seem like the smartest plan if they were scum partners? I mean, that's a little bold, drawing that much attention to you

and

your partner?

I've seen scum-Dunnstral once. He tried harder than this and seemed more engaged in a game where he replaced in maybe 60 pages deep - definitely feels town here. Agree with top half of your post, last para doesn't sound right to me. In my recent experience, scum often make little mention of their buddies to avoid associations being drawn. But lynching Vot-scum first is the play, and then decide whether to bite for his stungun 'slip'. Gut says probably not.

So I’m thinking that one of his scum partners might be someone he mentions quite often. I know he mentions Vot a lot, along with Dun.

[Malakittens]

I never had a good gut feel regarding Vot. I kinda let it go because Notty was townreading him, but this flip makes me think we have scum between {GC, Dunn & Vot}. Potentially HK50, but I been townreading him as of late.

There’s many other players that BM didn’t even mention once during the course of D1.

Not_mafia is prob town.

[Malakittens]

Here I was worried the closure was due to something serious, glad to have the game back.

So I’m thinking that one of his scum partners might be someone he mentions quite often. I know he mentions Vot a lot, along with Dun.

I'm not sure why this is necessarily true? The logic seems very arbitrary.

IDK. I’m kinda annoyed we did such a wagon switch to Gera. I mean I know I was getting sick of hearing Gera go “I’m not great at D1” so please give me a pass. He was a LHF so the fact we did wagon switch to him is kinda grrr

[Malakittens]

I'm looking at bob

I could also be ok with a bob lynch. My townread was slowly fading throughout the Day 1. Also the fact he voted for Gera knowing how hard it was to read him D1 was meh.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: Votato

Didn’t u request replacement?

[Malakittens]

Yea I was wondering that as well.

[Malakittens]

Honestly i don’t really think your pushes on BM were that strong. I, personally, didn’t like your early game and once someone called you out for a low post count you started to post more and be vocal.

[Malakittens]

Well then that’s eerie. Max and i are in agreement, around the same time and i keep thinking max is a different person

[Malakittens]

So what’s the backbone of this vote?

[Malakittens]

Cool, sorry I didn’t know what it did and i wanted to press the button

[Malakittens]

I feel like youve been coasting all game and i feel like the push on me is really disengenuous

I really haven’t though. I been p damn active and p vocal about my thoughts.

The way you are defending yourself feels off, the way that you are now going after me due to the fact I’m voting/scum reading you.

[Malakittens]

I have to agree I didn’t like the way SG was posting, but I’m not giving that slot a town pass. I felt like he waffled a bit between his vote on BM v GC. I didn’t like the fact he numerous stated that he was lining up a lynch between the two players.

[Malakittens]

These are my feelings in somewhat in an order. It’s really hard to place some players {DP, N_M} due to lack of posts, but as a gut feeling that’s where I’m at. As for CSF/Maxwell I’m waiting for a bit more posting to help solidify my reads there. Maxwell brought up a good point in regards to Bob.

Town -> scum:

GC, CSF, DP, HK50, Bob, Maxwell, N_M, Dunn ,Vot

[Malakittens]

How the hell are you not giving stungun's slot a town pass when you have them as your second highest townread? Why is DoctorPepper a townread when you've literally never mentioned them before now? What is this list?

It wasn’t in the greatest of order. I don’t have a good read as mentioned on DP. His posts haven’t swayed me one wya or the other. In past experience DP was a transparent player. So it’s odd that I don’t have anything on him yet.

Sg waffled more then I wanted him to do so. I also didn’t like him lining up lunches. He very well could be a town player because I was getting T/T when Sg v GC.

[Malakittens]

This Votato wagon is looking good.

maxwell, I attacked N_M because I wasn't scumreading BM and his posts looked bad.

Let’s be real. Your posts and N-M almost looked exactly the same.

I just don’t remember you acting like this during the last game I was scum. Either that or I didn’t catch it.

[Malakittens]

Damn it. Why is this game so apathetic.

<<

[Malakittens]

I shouldn’t be able to go to sleep being the last post and waking up being the last post.

[Malakittens]

Probably because I'm very inactive and I only post here and there.

TBH I get very lazy

I know it’s been a while since we played together, but i cant remember you doing this at all during our games.

[Malakittens]

Well that was a ping :/

[Malakittens]

I’m ok with voting Hk50