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[DkKoba]

VOTE: drippinggoofball
got a daycop on this slot, flipped guilty

[DkKoba]

also yall are so slow to confirm i literally have been waiting like forever for this game to start also hi andres i missed u

[DkKoba]

VOTE: jacksonvirgo
semi srs

[DkKoba]

Also where did fake-claim come from?

isnt daycop non normal or something
at least someone told me it wasnt

this feels fake considering its an obvious joke

[DkKoba]

im pretty sure its normal because im a daycop

claiming early = anti-town

btw, JV said to policy me, but said policy voting is wrong, contradiction

Ok like definitely scum vibes from this slot LMFAO

[DkKoba]

Yeah

y doe

[DkKoba]

like srsly mad scummy to just vote and say nothing shows hesitation and fear

[DkKoba]

Why vote jackson but say you're getting serious scumvibes from shelly?

because theres more than 1 scum in the game ? Lol

[DkKoba]

i can pressure multiple slots at once tyvm

[DkKoba]

There's something i noticed but im gonna keep it to myself for now so i can maybe get some spew

[DkKoba]

Im off of work and im free tonight since i dont work tomorrow morning so ill be watching thread

[DkKoba]

Im off of work and im free tonight since i dont work tomorrow morning so ill be watching thread

Where's Anders amirite!?

LOL same. thoroughly enjoyed playing with him last time.

[DkKoba]

also yall are so slow to confirm i literally have been waiting like forever for this game to start also hi andres i missed u

Hey Koba. I’ve missed you too. When I saw that you had signed up for this game I got excited. Do not disappoint me by being aligned with the Scum now.

nah im def town again. Hopefully you are too o.o

[DkKoba]

like srsly mad scummy to just vote and say nothing shows hesitation and fear

VOTE: dkkoba

Are u for real? Lol

[DkKoba]

I’m ignoring all of the claims, since they seem completely made up.

I will say this - from experience, concluding that shellyc is Town this early is a red flag to me. @DrippingGoofball have you played with Shelly before?

1 shot loyal neighborizer here

[DkKoba]

like srsly mad scummy to just vote and say nothing shows hesitation and fear

VOTE: dkkoba

Are u for real? Lol

Does saying that the vote is semi serious make it less scummy than saying nothing?

when i said "semi srs" it meant like "yeah i got scum pings but i dont exactly scumread enough them to elim them" kinda poking around for reactions.

[DkKoba]

andres its ok i have resigned myself to the fact that my playstyle naturally just makes at least One person shitpush me in a game unless im mechanically cleared LOL


fr tho im gonna park my vote here, i think i got all i am gonna get for now out of my jackson vote
VOTE: shellyc

[DkKoba]

UNVOTE: good point

[DkKoba]

I’m going to give you my first impression to your approach this game, and you tell me what you think. You’re beginning to strike me as someone who is somewhat bent on driving public opinion against DkKoba. From implying that Koba is Scum because they can’t recognize a joke, to questioning their vote while pushing someone else, you are giving me the vibe that based on Koba’s activity this early in D1, that you are somewhat set in Koba as Scum. Is that correct?

No I’m just poking around, doing some detective work

Koba do you want to explain your reasons for voting Jackson?

oh right i was echoing the sentiment of others on that page and i wanted to put a vote. i thought i had explained that in my vote post.

mostly poking around for reactions which i did get. i dont like yours.

[DkKoba]

i think im comfortable outting a little flash reads chart based on entrance tone:

towny:
andres, taylor, ndmath

null: anyone not listed in above or below

scummy(god pls someone do something to let me narrow this down more):

goofball, shellyc, infinity, zdenek

[DkKoba]

UNVOTE: good point

What was a good point?

the vote count thing. my vote is on shelly in spirit

[DkKoba]

Good morning all, this ought to be a good laugh.

I am assuming the whole daycop thing is am in-joke, but if this is actually a legit thing then please tell me

For the time being...

VOTE: NDMath

<insert hilarious quip here about the moral and grammatical superiority of British English 'maths' to the Americanism of 'math'>

I think this is Town btw.

? i marked it down as NAI wrt the tone.

[DkKoba]

btw infinity is scum

i only think ur town bc u come off as kinda bad and if ur scum u would be obvious

[DkKoba]

feels like scum might be determining whether to angle me or try to use my reads to push stuff idk im paranoid. like idk if theres an effort to use the most active player to drive the game bc im easily pocketed like feels like theres planning from scumchat going on rn

[DkKoba]

i feel weird that infinity townreads me and now like is voting my weakest scumvibe read. yeah that entrance sucks but its like ?? over other votes? esp other pushes ppl are looking at rn?

[DkKoba]

I don’t see much else scummy rn

so where are you at with reads rn?

[DkKoba]

ez post 100

[DkKoba]

as a former chat mafia player i find them extremely useful for finding a "baseline" read level to start out with. id still like to see where your general vibes are so i can get a sense where your head is at.

[DkKoba]

interesting.


also gerain why did u pop in just to respond to shade against u? i hope you're rereading still and are typing up more.

[DkKoba]

Just vote geraintm. We got scum here y'all

but then u just get a dead scum and have to still find the rest of them.

[DkKoba]

Shellyc is town.

scumdar beep: TMI'd scum

(serious) I'll have to hear the why to sort you though.

You seem way too chipper and excited about this game to have rolled scum!

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[DkKoba]

mmmmmmmmmm

i dont like this at all

[DkKoba]

ill wait for geraint's response first though. i want to see how they react

[DkKoba]

VOTE: shelly

[DkKoba]

i always get the best pagetops i swear

[DkKoba]

taylor - townish
jackson - townish
shelly - townish
DGB - scummish
gerain - scummish
baltar - scummish
mark - townish

Let's say infinity is scum. Probably one bus on this list (geraintm). Other partner could be Marky Mark or I could possibly see andres.

I do think andres' town play is pretty hard to fake (based on the recent game I playe with him), so I expect that will become clearer over time.

are you saying you played a game against andre where he was scum?

[DkKoba]

anyone else get that feel like that u are more suspicious of players who u first encounter ever in a game as scum and trust players who u encountered as town before?
like my gut automatically makes me like assign vp as scum just because they were scum b4 and andres as town and thats the baseline i start at. ive had this in other games too and its weird.

(i dont actually scumread vp but my subconscious just is saying that bc of prior game experience)

[DkKoba]

i just realized sesq is in this game and has yet to post. im gonna slow down on the spam so i dont make them ahve to read more than what we've already spewed into the thread... reformed spammer btw.

[DkKoba]

what pings u about andres shelly?i dont think andres' playstyle inherently allows him to really spew alignment until later in the day phase so im wondering what exactly u are reading into about him thats scum

[DkKoba]

shelly sounds v complacent here and the way they pivoted to hedginess after being questioned really pings me hard as scummy.

like they dont wanna step on toes early and are afraid to make solid reads because its early.

its something i myself notice in my own scumgames where I'm like "yeah thats true but like this can also be true" and like correcting someone about like a positive read on them to be like "yeah but it could be scummy". really dont like.

[DkKoba]

i think shelly is likely scum.

[DkKoba]

as a former chat mafia player i find them extremely useful for finding a "baseline" read level to start out with. id still like to see where your general vibes are so i can get a sense where your head is at.

Pretty sure this is mostly just personality/playstyle but

taylor - townish
jackson - townish
shelly - townish
DGB - scummish
gerain - scummish
baltar - scummish
mark - townish

ok hmmmmmm

hot take infinity is scummy and koba is townie
koba is *proactively* solving and poking around, infinity is *reactionary* readslisting

lol pocket attempt denied

[DkKoba]

[DkKoba]

beep beep damage control mode

[DkKoba]

not to sound arrogant i have 5 scum victories on this site and am confident and assertive at playing scum and the easiest way to catch scum!me is through confidence levels/TMI

nervousness is 10000000% a towntell for the account "shellyc"

"i would do the exact thing as scum everytime!! check my history becasuse i am good at scum but i would never change up my play! " - shellyc, sided with the mafia

[DkKoba]

if what you're saying about your scum ability is true.. yes?

[DkKoba]

thats not necessarily true re:rvs. scum will sometimes try to force RVS to end first so they can collect the towncred for doing so. ive caught scum that way b4.

its generally accepted that "pushing out of RVS" is a townreadable thing so obviously scum are going to try to do it too lol


just be mindful of ~timing~ thats always the key to catching scum with votes

[DkKoba]

i think that analysis is wrong and the reasons i gave are the .. "correct" ones although sure lets say thats supporting evidence lol

[DkKoba]

sorry that came off as condescending i need to stop doign that

[DkKoba]

shelly if ur actually town here u need to prove it thru analysis+ actions in this game not some previous game. trying to purely push meta reasons is only going to make me scumread u more

[DkKoba]

I’m ignoring all of the claims, since they seem completely made up.

I will say this - from experience, concluding that shellyc is Town this early is a red flag to me. @DrippingGoofball have you played with Shelly before?

1 shot loyal neighborizer here

Okay?

its a reference to the last Normal andres and I played in

[DkKoba]

sounds fake and scummy considering whos in that set of 3

[DkKoba]

I'm informed that there's scum within Shelly, DKKoba and Infinity. Probably should out that rn

I'm informed that there's scum

I'm informed

I was fake-claiming to be an Informed [redacted] to gauge reactions. Also getting at shelly by saying fake-claim = bad.

I do it all the time on my home-site so much that my claim is never actually believed ever anymore lmfaoooo

the exact claim u made was a claim made in a special game where you needed to nominate town in order to win. if you nominate scum you lose automatically. so 1 mafia made a claim of informed of 1 mafia within 3, they got nommmed and insta won on the first nom lol.

(i also thought of this first.)

but why not fight me on calling it fake? why did u back down?

[DkKoba]

meta is trash

Hmm interesting

L M F A O

im actually cackling at this. good catch

[DkKoba]

[DkKoba]

can i get a nice

[DkKoba]

shelly is obvscum at this point but im willing to take the gas off if it means they will spew partners

[DkKoba]

It's times like this I just try to imagine what is going on in the scum PT.

LMFAO same

[DkKoba]

DAYTALK - is NOT allowed.
ytalk - is NOT allowed.

??

[DkKoba]

oh i see.

[DkKoba]

feels like scum might be determining whether to angle me or try to use my reads to push stuff idk im paranoid. like idk if theres an effort to use the most active player to drive the game bc im easily pocketed like feels like theres planning from scumchat going on rn

What's giving you the impression that scum are already thinking/talking about that at page 4?

at the time i thought scum had daychat so

[DkKoba]

ndmath how do u read the last 3 pages?

[DkKoba]

im not sure where youre going with this but i just like saw the game state kinda shift against me. im a player whos very aware of game state and where people tend to be angling their foses and such.

[DkKoba]

ndmath how do u read the last 3 pages?

There's pressure on shelley infinity and geraintm during the last three pages.
Shelley's been responding in what I think is slightly scumindicative for them.
I don't have a read on infinity.
Geraint hasn't given anything yet.

Also Jackson's fake claim is interested, but probably nai.

this post gives me a weird vibe. anyone else feel like this is like forced or smthing?

can u point out why its scum indicative? what posts?

[DkKoba]

ToS :vomit:

[DkKoba]

its ok i started on epicmafia LOL

[DkKoba]

Shellyc is town.

Post

Post

Post

Home site where I'm known for fake-claiming. I was a named cit that game

meta is trash

big thonker

[DkKoba]

DGB if ur gonna shade how about u back that up with a vote?

[DkKoba]

oh i see i did not see that they were already voting but wow thats a little odd lol

[DkKoba]

V/LA until Monday

you at least gonna be able to contribute periodically or?

[DkKoba]

id KINDA like to be able to have an actual read on u sometime in the near future

[DkKoba]

are we really going to do this shit again :/ I dont read shit like that. Believe me or not im not interested in discussing it.
and for the record if i had known id have faked it anyways bc i like being townread.
And

[DkKoba]

Im not sure how you even see it as alignment indicative in the first place. Yeah sorry i like to say shit like that to obscure my alignment when I do roll scum sorry its an annoying ego gimmick to not read setup mech posts.
Misclicked submit.

[DkKoba]

and ur read on shellyc doesn't make sense to me. tables are different. Like they LITERALLY are so fucking scummy and you come out with that shit.. then shade the person who started the wagon.. hm

[DkKoba]

do you have anything else other than "more sr = town"?

[DkKoba]

@DrippingGoofball have you played with Shelly before?

DkKoba is town.

Andresvmb might be scum.

Reasons?

Andres is meek, tentative, and self-conscious.

DkKoba is not.

You know, over time, I am becoming more immune to bad takes of my slot. Please point to where I have been self-conscious, or tentative for that matter.

In this post itself

[DkKoba]

vp if ur pocketing me im allowing it... for now.

[DkKoba]

as a former chat mafia player i find them extremely useful for finding a "baseline" read level to start out with. id still like to see where your general vibes are so i can get a sense where your head is at.

Pretty sure this is mostly just personality/playstyle but

taylor - townish
jackson - townish
shelly - townish
DGB - scummish
gerain - scummish
baltar - scummish
mark - townish

ok hmmmmmm

hot take infinity is scummy and koba is townie
koba is *proactively* solving and poking around, infinity is *reactionary* readslisting

Okay I’m going to actually disagree with this. I think Infinity is Town. I don’t know about Koba yet. Those attempts at early reads lists are reasonably likely to come from Town in my view.

lmao hold up so... i literally outted an ealry reads list first. Are you trying to deliberately misrep me?
The more I read andres posts the less i trust him
Im removing him from my townleans for now. His insitence on preventing the shellyc wagon on the lowkey feels scummy

[DkKoba]

Shelly does not seem to be lying that she often gets limmed as town and not as scum. Here is an example of shelly being nervous about a wagon on her as town:

Spoiler:

Megabyte can you explain where I’m fluffposting cause I’m definitely not

Or maybe you need to rethink the definition of it if you think hard pushing = fluffing

look bob speaks sense. im like, obvtown with the wagons but I cant explain things clearly and that’s my downfall
let me analyse the pushes on me for a minute
golden misrepped and I never backtracked on ydrasse
megabyte says im “FLUFFPOSTING” and uses “shelly rolls scum a shit ton and therefore they’re scum” what tf is that?
osuka is RVS
pooky is apparently because I used the word stats

megabyte / ydrasse contains scum for one, I can see ydrasse telling inactive partner to speak up but throughout there’s no read on mini. I could also see town!mini scum!ydrasse with the effort to make a read from mini (albeit a bad one)
golden is a null, slight gut townlean, I think the misrep was not intentional tbh and spotting it is indicative of solving
I have a lingering scumread with gamma, that interaction with gamma shifting towards me instead of interacting about ydrasse is weird
bob is town. dong is town. osuka is prooooobably town. pooky is a huge null
nothing to say about the rest of the people

wait what the fuck im at L-1 now

BM is now less town, bob is town, gamma prob!scum as well, gamma completely fails to engage with me in a meaningful way and does not say anything about ydrasse TR other than “effort” and jumping on this town wagon

lack of CW means scum are on this and fairly active while all town are asleep

Why did you even scum read me

You clearly misrepresented I never backtracked on ydrasse, and i explained the “new scum” thing

Shelly could be big braining us and manipulating her meta that hard, I don't think it'd be a great play though? It requires people putting in effort and believing meta is useful, plus it'd be pretty hard to pull off I think.

However, I find it really odd that people aren't hopping on the shelly wagon immediately, because it seems like it would be something pretty easy for scum to do. If anything, we're seeing a counterpush on gerain. I'd like to have more about what people think of shelly. Vote stays for now.

do u really think shellys goal is to lose every scumgame on this site by having a meta like this? nervousness isnt that hard to fake

[DkKoba]

On further thought ocams razor says to trust it for now so UNVOTE:

[DkKoba]

Im at work so cant really talk much but yhe ger wagon isnt good imo

[DkKoba]

Sesq confirned and didnt post? Lmfao

[DkKoba]

VOTE: jackson ill explain in a bit when i can type it up. I believe i hinted at this move earlier but i was hoping to see more info before i transitioned over

[DkKoba]

im vibing happy bday mark

[DkKoba]

VOTE: math that was my other choice

[DkKoba]

i want to vote in Jackson zdenek and math today

[DkKoba]

Has to do with the reaction to being called on their rxn test

[DkKoba]

math who do u townread

[DkKoba]

??? How lmfao

[DkKoba]

lol math frozen

[DkKoba]

VOTE: jackson ill explain in a bit when i can type it up. I believe i hinted at this move earlier but i was hoping to see more info before i transitioned over

Has to do with the reaction to being called on their rxn test

Lackluster when they were insinuating they had a much bigger case on me when they don't.

(I thought I sent this)

thanks for scum claiming with this post

[DkKoba]

now i dont have to feel as paranoid abt ur slot

[DkKoba]

where ur vote at jackson

[DkKoba]

[DkKoba]

keep drunk posting pls

[DkKoba]

Apparently the sesq slot was filled so we gonna get a new voice soon hopefully

[DkKoba]

im good town and they got caught

[DkKoba]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

[DkKoba]

koba take a look at VP's iso and tell me what you think btw

in the meantime im staying on the math wagon for now because i think pressuring math is one of the only ways to actually discern maths alignment as they're pretty lurky

I can do so tomorrow im too tired. But i still dont trust u rn

[DkKoba]

im good town and they got caught

koba are you the type of person like me that sees one scummy thing -> tunnels forever

no i see 2 scummy things then tunnel forever :3

[DkKoba]

vp is town LOL
this is kinda funny but these are town posts LOL

[DkKoba]

vp is town LOL
this is kinda funny but these are town posts LOL

why are they townposts tho

towny reaction to ur shitpush

[DkKoba]

oh wait i misunderstood that

you're telling me to stop saving gerain
gerain's iso is basically the same as all the other lurker isos, i completely don't get this cw at all
confidence in scumflip when we're 48 hours into d1 cant plausibly come from town imo

ur confident in vp/math tho

[DkKoba]

Gonna let infiinity/shelly/jackson keep scumming it up in this thread. One is probably dumb town though. because geraintm is still scum.

Whoever it was that asked me for a reason to vote geraintm is a very likely buddy. Might have been shelly, but I'm semi-drunk and too lazy too go back.

Asking for reasons for a vote when you haven't given any is objectively pro-town play.

Hot how?

You basically said you were annoyed people were posting too much and offered nothing of substance yourself. Not sure why you're acting angry about people posting.

Plus, there ARE things to comment on. Shelly for instance

Ok you've given reasons but they're not nearly sufficient to warrant your level of confidence.

lol?

[DkKoba]

The goalpost moving?

[DkKoba]

stop misrepping me thx

[DkKoba]

Which particular part of the above do you feel is being misrepped?

Also interesting format of response - if I was factually incorrect in what I was saying about you surely the more straightforward thing to do would be to disprove/correct me rather than just throw words like misrep my way and see what sticks?

What are you on about? U said something untrue idc if u wanna believe it or not its on u if you trust me lmao??

[DkKoba]

not mafia are u avoiding this thread?

[DkKoba]

lol ok my guy whatever floats your boat
im high as shit rn and dont care

[DkKoba]

Im at work so cant really talk much but yhe ger wagon isnt good imo

Can you expand on this?

Im high asf rn so no but ipl try to remember tomorrow

[DkKoba]

lol what?

[DkKoba]

So?

[DkKoba]

tone reads are good if ur actually good and read them right

[DkKoba]

post 420

[DkKoba]

jackson am i scummy or nah tho

[DkKoba]

lol? u just lurking the thread and just sidelining?

[DkKoba]

jackson am i scummy or nah tho

Unsure, but I hate how you play.

but am i scum or no?

[DkKoba]

not taking "unsure" as an answer. u keep shading me and i wanna see a concrete stance.

[DkKoba]

Jackson do you have reads?

tryna figure that one out by seeing if they have a read on the most active slot(me). i dont trust ppl who fencesit reads on me.

[DkKoba]

god sometimes i wish they would

[DkKoba]

pretty sure every scum in the past like 5 games or so has pushed on me and said im scum and attempted to push my ML so LOL

[DkKoba]

kinda vibing with this math vote but tempted to switch to jackson

[DkKoba]

I also don’t like the look of Andres early on.

Up to page 7. I have a hard time believing anything that Kiba is writing.

LOL what is this

[DkKoba]

can u explain?

[DkKoba]

also not interested in shelly rn

[DkKoba]

wait marky have u actually played with me?

[DkKoba]

how are u gonna say town me would do something like that

[DkKoba]

I'm town btw

Thanks. Thoughts on the game so far?

They're still developing

developing from what.
give us gun to head reads.

(On god already know this is going to be painful)

[DkKoba]

mark frankly

I dont care.
If u have anything substantial to ask me feel free but when im stating factual information i dont care to accept the premise that im wrong thx

[DkKoba]

Ok so whats ur analysis then

[DkKoba]

oh god pls that was a terrible d1 i dont want to relive it.

also lmfao @jackson.

what posts are scummy to you? why? also u gonna vote me or what?

once im free of work and not busy im gonna turbo destroy scum i already have them on my radar im just trying to get them to spew a little more b4 i do.

[DkKoba]

Also they still haven't said shit about why I was scummy about the reaction test when they said they had a whole heckin' case on me

holy fuck because clearly ur intentions were to not get scumread for fakeclaiming lmfao

i have a feelign ur just bad town because ur takes are just so astronomically bad i feel like as scum being informed u would never actually say things these bad.

[DkKoba]

Jackson I didn't read much of the game but I don't agree at all

Spoiler: discrediting in the other game

andres ignoring me .

not a good start

im not sheeping your reads bud I'm making my own.

but keep AtEing me it fuels my desire to make you see rope <3

i hope u stretched b4 your reach <3 . <3

i dont need to convince you that you are scum, i would rather not have my explainations be drowned out.

also, again, i was busy playing games with friends and now im tired asf around the time the so i just gave out what my conclusions from my analysis was.
im sorry u rolled mafia but thats just how it be bud.

how is janko null to you LOOOOOOOOOOL

and u want to shade my mafia skill here

VP and Hell are definately scummy. DKK is not looking good but could be bad town.

Im playing 3d chess while ur playing checkers

i smell a bullshit copout to stay on the wagon and help it dissolve but aight

I don't think I'm very good at explaining myself, I saw that they were discrediting in that game but not in the same way as this game. That game they were more direct

Spoiler:

vp if ur pocketing me im allowing it... for now.

Sesq confirned and didnt post? Lmfao

VOTE: jackson ill explain in a bit when i can type it up. I believe i hinted at this move earlier but i was hoping to see more info before i transitioned over

i want to vote in Jackson zdenek and math today

Has to do with the reaction to being called on their rxn test

??? How lmfao

lol math frozen

where ur vote at jackson

stop misrepping me thx

lol what?

So?

god sometimes i wish they would

kinda vibing with this math vote but tempted to switch to jackson

Do you not see the entire tonal change?

wow sur fucking prise i speak differently among a different table idk what ur issue is
u think im just a 2d cutout ?

ur seriously hard reaching with this one

[DkKoba]

Jackson, I'd have to look at that game more closely, the posts in that spoiler have lots of different tones which range from lighter suspicions or thinking about who could be scum to things like "you're misrepping me" which I read as pretty direct. I saw some places in the other game where they were less confident too, though tbf maybe it wasn't in the same way.

Jackson feels towny from this

interesting post

[DkKoba]

Taylor you seem to be on the periphery of things. Like when this whole koba vs. shelly thing happened you started SRing infinity for reasons that you disagree with their takes, and when this whole koba vs. jackson thing happened you started pushing DGB

It doesn't sit well with me and seems like to avoid conflicts and do some poking in the less focused-on slots so you stay under the radar

big eye emoji

[DkKoba]

im the towniest town whos every towned

[DkKoba]

also zdenek rly slanking this game hard doesnt sit with me. does anyone know if thats their meta bc i already turbohanged someone in a previous game for that behavior but like they flipped town so im afraid now cause on my home site its a 1000% scumtell

[DkKoba]

tactical "busyness" exists lets be fucking real.

and cmon the way theyve posted is 100% a slank.

[DkKoba]

VOTE: zdenek lets do it

[DkKoba]

bc im a better player than u

[DkKoba]

i cant explain it theres just a feeling. That i can sense from the posts that its bs

[DkKoba]

ok goodnight i hope i wake up to the info im looking for.

I work in complex ways >:)

[DkKoba]

Koba: Scum always pushes me lol
Me: Pushes them
Koba: They must be dumb town, scum would never push me

Are you saying you're scum?

[DkKoba]

ok i got what i wanted.

tayl0r is scum imo and their open ended reads are phrased in such a way that allows for them to switch them. Its fairly obvious alongside their tone being scummy.

Their 5050 is pretty bullshit and just targets high activity slots.
poes like that early on are scummy.

also not mafia if ur not gonna post anything game advancing why even play. Players like u annoy the hell out of me bc u dont play to win u just play to piss other ppl off. On my home site youd have already been banned playing like thism already has to deal with a player like u in a recent game im not in the mood to do it again.

[DkKoba]

VOTE: taylor
i...just explained it.
Literally iso them and read them urself. Make ur own conclusions. I'll explain more if you tell me what u see.

[DkKoba]

also im not done with zdenek slot but that vote was to get tayl0r to spew more so i can be sure of my read on them + get them to form associatives if scum.

[DkKoba]

Confidence is thinking you have the right reads
Discrediting is where you destroy someones rep so that nobody will listen to what people say.

I think I have a right SR on people and start pushing said person. Destroying reputation is a very similar thing to attacking someone?

no. attacking someone's argument is fine: "you said x, and here's why scum would be more likely to say x"
discrediting someone is a shitty thing to do "youre dumb" "clearly im better than you so people shouldnt listen to you"

do you see how koba is doing the second one?

I really dont care what u think. I can townread someone shitpushibg me ty

[DkKoba]

For players: we encourage players to use alternate words such as eliminate as well, but we will not be policing the use. Game moderators are welcome to set up their own rules on the subject.

I am still allowed to use the word, it's just suggested that we don't and/or it's up to mod discretion.

i wish i scumread u bc u are so insensitive abt why it was changed. Shame i care more abt winning than a grudge tho

[DkKoba]

VOTE: taylor
i...just explained it.
Literally iso them and read them urself. Make ur own conclusions. I'll explain more if you tell me what u see.

I don't agree they're open ended, she literally said scum is likely 3 out of a group of 4. Don't see why targeting high activity slots or PoE is scummy, even this early (I love PoE). I get there's a playstyle barrier here, do your best to explain it. My only read on taylor is a light townlean since in a recently finished scum game she seemed to care more about what people thought of her.

so tayl0r is maf pr is what ur saying

[DkKoba]

catch me being suddenly less sure of my reads bc of this dumb interaction

love that for me

[DkKoba]

how is it far from town interests? do u know what words mean?

[DkKoba]

ur literally pushing someone whos LHF(scum or not) and ur trying to talk to me about going against "town interest".

what is ur point?

ur fosing ppl for activity levels and yet ur avoiding zdenek?



once again i am being held to higher standards than everyone else bc apparently i have to explain literally everything and everyone else gets a free pass!!!!!!! sick of it!!!

[DkKoba]

mark be real with me do u actually fos me bc thats hilarious if u do for the reasons u listed like ur trying to twist that me being annoyed at being blatantly misrepped is scummy.

can there be 4 scum in a mini?

[DkKoba]

ok maybe consider what ur asking is nonsense and u should move on? Bc clearly im not gonna elaborate unless u make a more concise question that i havent answered bc i feel ive answered it efficiently with my actions already.

[DkKoba]

honestly im stressed a lot irl and not in the mood for this kinda dumb fight over semantics so drop it unless u have a point bc the more u push it the less i feel ur town

[DkKoba]

Koba: Scum always pushes me lol
Me: Pushes them
Koba: They must be dumb town, scum would never push me

Are you saying you're scum?

No I'm saying you're contradicting yourself

Literally where

[DkKoba]

i can make ppl draw their own conclusions before i explain my own. Im forcing ppl to make stances

[DkKoba]

it just so happens ppl who are trying to discredit me command the most attention everytime without fail. Because it annoys me to no end when something i do is construed as scum... bc it "could help scum koba"

Like ??? Backwards fucking logic and it nearly always is the noob town chiming in with these hot takes

[DkKoba]

bc it feels more u want to exploit a point that isnt even true to shade me

[DkKoba]

And?

[DkKoba]

If ppl are gonna shade me for me being me im gonna toss it back its that simple

[DkKoba]

Fwiw, I also want to FOS DK. This has kinda been covered above, but the way she is playing is too far from the town's interests, even given her posting style.

DK comes from chat mafia (so do I), it's pretty much high activity/direct pressuring style. Is this "Anti-town" read, and are you willing to policy that slot?

Chat mafia? What site are u from

[DkKoba]

VOTE: math same

[DkKoba]

lol oops is that hammer

[DkKoba]

Oh well theyre scummy anyways

[DkKoba]

math hella floundering

[DkKoba]

bc im good baybee

[DkKoba]

the fact ur defending math just solidifies it

[DkKoba]

taylor malding in scum chat

[DkKoba]

is math town

[DkKoba]

answer fast

[DkKoba]

weird bc ur sudden defense of math gives me scum vibes from you instead

[DkKoba]

u know what.
Math.
I'll give u a chance.
UNVOTE:
lets see what u have to say

[DkKoba]

Lol u really just wanna latch onto everything i do without letting the intended target of my actions respond dont u
White knight much?

[DkKoba]

math is scummy bc pee pee poo poo

[DkKoba]

mafia elim machine go brrr

[DkKoba]

infinity where are ur reads at

[DkKoba]

i wanna see something

[DkKoba]

I’ll catch up soon enough. Though I admit I might fall asleep doing it. I will say, there’s a lot of votes on Math all of a sudden (I skimmed) and that sort of thing tends not to catch Scum.

awaiting this take. i want this slot sorted the most out of yall cause i actually trust andres' reads most of the time

[DkKoba]

yeah but koba youre being emotionally manipulative. as town you shouldnt need to, and also its disruptive and causes disagreement. this is a team game, stop playing like an asshole.

And?

taylor u really had no reaction to my response?

[DkKoba]

i dont understand why ppl on this site thing being critical of their analysis and putting pressure on them is bad like sorry i want to find scum i will use the thing called logic and emotional analysis. its effective ok!!

[DkKoba]

wow ok. kinda hurtful when i have put so much effort in already. :/

[DkKoba]

im gonna be off for the night im stressed asf and that kinda stung more than it should have probably good night

[DkKoba]

so theres at least one scum in {shelly, dkkoba} based on their buddy-buddy interactions. im leaning towards either shelly or both. i think theres probably two scum in {infinity, koba, shelly} but not all three. i could see all three scum being in {infinity, shellly, koba, gerain}

that all the high activity slots? LOL

[sticks up hand] i'm not

I don't follow the NDmath thing. you all been in other games together and I miss what you are on about.
but Koba's response posts felt weird. feel like I have a similar reaction to taylor swift. koba is so much noise....

scum "aloofness"

[DkKoba]

I think DKKoba is scum

Thanks for townreading me

[DkKoba]

There is certainly scum in the pool of people demanding wagon LOGIC, regardless of Math's alignment.

D1 is stagnating and a flash wagon was definitely called for. People crying it's not a wall case are not convincing.

Infinity, what's your take on Taylor's reaction here?

who is that pool and why is it scum?

[DkKoba]

andres' reads feeel backwards to me.

im not asking for a wall on math. im just asking someone to explain why you suspect math, because i dont get it.

Is it scummy to you?
Looks p consistent to me based on boardstate.

[DkKoba]

I agree its still weirdly phrased but not for the reasons u are saying

[DkKoba]

zdenek is just not playing the game i feel. Their tone isnt towny either so theyre in my poe still

[DkKoba]

VOTE: andres
ill explain later in more detail but their recent posts stink tonme and I think they're doing a lot of open ended solving ie setting up a ML chain

[DkKoba]

vp and math are both scum DGB?

[DkKoba]

VOTE: andres
ill explain later in more detail but their recent posts stink tonme and I think they're doing a lot of open ended solving ie setting up a ML chain

Which mis-executions do you think I’m setting up? So you think the players I have highlighted as Scummy are Town?

i just get the vibe that the way u have presented the way u are reading ppl is in such a way that allows for a change later on i.e. flexible evidence.

i dont like how u seem to be backseated this game. it makes me feel like u are just popping in time to time to appear towny and then let ppl fight eachother.

[DkKoba]

mmm something doesnt feel right

[DkKoba]

dgb and u and the wagon bc

[DkKoba]

it doesnt line up logically that they are voting here or like not even questioning u voting here.

[DkKoba]

lets try this VOTE: geraintm

[DkKoba]

not mafia isnt actually playing the game they just purposefully post the bare minimum to annoy ppl and yet we still allow them to play like this (((:

[DkKoba]

im not here to defend math. the case is eh. maybe. but this looks a lot like what ive seen from math as town. math is a wallflower who doesnt really do much. i dont know how to sort math and maybe math makes for a good policy lunch, but eh. i think we can probably do better.

I'm open to being persuaded elsewhere. Haven't seen super strong cases today (but it is also D1, so we can only expect so much).

So are you saying you think this is Math's town meta or just his general play all the time, regardless of alignment? Does math usually tunnel?

I'll be curious to see what Math says about gamma's entrance.

i dont think ive seen math play scum. im just saying math always feels lurky and bland to me. i think math's takes as town are generally decent even though they are sparse though. so maybe bad takes = math is scum? not sure about tunneling either. anyway VP this is the sort of engagement re math i was looking for from someone on the wagon. shockingly it came from the person on the wagon i most strongly townread.

This reads as a whole pile of nothing. "I think this but i guess that but also this and that oh yeah weird that this bc i think you are town so yeah"

[DkKoba]

taylor still scum btw

[DkKoba]

Why?

He just is

My pronouns are they them thanks!! Il