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[JacksonVirgo]

Wait how do you get the Jack of all Trades thing under your name Noraa

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Jackooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

JACKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

VOTE: NORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA[/b]

NORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Jackooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

JACKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

VOTE: NORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

NORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Please count vote

[JacksonVirgo]

JACKOOOOOOO
*performs the summoning wild Jackos ritual*

It worked! :O

[JacksonVirgo]

@Mod, game title still says pre-game

Fixed -S

[JacksonVirgo]

A wild JacksonVirgo has appeared

Fight^P_K^M_N
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[JacksonVirgo]

i'm going to advocate hard for a nm policy today because their shit is objectively antitown and no one wants it

I'm going to say that you're scum because N_M is an easy vote-park for scum.

>:)

[JacksonVirgo]

okay this seems like town jackson

From what reasonings have you come to this? I do not remember playing much games with you outside of the games which must not be named (ongoing)

[JacksonVirgo]

I love how other's also said my logic regarding the votepark on N_M lmfaoo

Mine was 50/50 between a joke and actual logic however I do see it as a possibility. Them saying they don't vote-park is scummy though I must agree, it's the common scum!defense from my experience.

[JacksonVirgo]

It's incredibly coincidental that the person that they wanted to PL has become a SR for them. Although I may be looking too much into that

[JacksonVirgo]

The answer was yes ... until I saw this post:

This can easily go into my town bin.

[JacksonVirgo]

. Hey Zurel... welcome to the real game. Glad to met you

Disappointed I did not get Jester. I am usually the town elimination bait and can get myself killed without trying.

I am obligated by law to claim town potato. This is something I do almost every game.It has no point other than it has become a tradition at this point.

You say potato. I say potahto.

Spoiler:

[JacksonVirgo]

It's incredibly coincidental that the person that they wanted to PL has become a SR for them. Although I may be looking too much into that

What is SR?

Oh sorry, I assume you're new? SR means scum read

[JacksonVirgo]

It's incredibly coincidental that the person that they wanted to PL has become a SR for them. Although I may be looking too much into that

What is SR?

Oh sorry, I assume you're new? SR means scum read

Yes, fresh out of the newbie queue.

Ah gotcha, in that case. Who is your top 3 town reads and top 3 scum reads. If you do not have that many, say so and give it a shot whether that be from gut or from logic.

Also give reasonings where you can.

[JacksonVirgo]

Your TGP read is very similar to my own read, so I can definitely get behind that one.
To be completely honest your Noraa read is very similar to mine also, especially that post as I said.

Zurel and Noraa are both easy town. TGP is the most likely scum from what I've got aorn.

VOTE: Paradox

[JacksonVirgo]

A wild JacksonVirgo has appeared

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I like this. I don't know what it means. But I like it.

What does it mean/

Old pokemon games reference, when you run into a wild boi you get those 4 options in that order and in a box boi. Hard to explain

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh shit it's 1am I gotta sleep

[JacksonVirgo]

Also OMGUS at it's core is essentially retaliatory actions based on being scum-read. Doesn't necessarily need to just be regarding votes but a lot of the time it does regard that.

[JacksonVirgo]

Great pagetop there my friend

[JacksonVirgo]

Goodnight duders

[JacksonVirgo]

I saw that shelly lmfao

[JacksonVirgo]

Soulreading Herta as town, could be wrong.

[JacksonVirgo]

GP is probably scum.
Partners could be nepenthe,Shoshin, Fuzzy,Rockhopper.

Likely 3 scum in total. GP/Fuzzy/Shoshin would be my early game gut-solve. Highly likely wrong

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson, didn't you say you want to sleep? Is this your dream?

Yeah you're all in my nightmare, maybe if we yeet the mafia it can be a restful dream.

[JacksonVirgo]

GP is probably scum.
Partners could be nepenthe,Shoshin, Fuzzy,Rockhopper.

Likely 3 scum in total. GP/Fuzzy/Shoshin would be my early game gut-solve. Highly likely wrong

then why bother spewing our reads, that, if they are correct is down to pure chance?

Spewing our reads? Also the read on GP is actually based on logic. The other's based off of PoE and I also think that Nepenthe isn't scum, just a gut feeling there also Shoshin's votes are wack. Fuzzy and Rockhopper are interchangable.

[JacksonVirgo]

Looking back. I think Taylors ISO so far is absolute garbage fire.

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh hey shell, keep goin' I believe that you'll get one soon!

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh

[JacksonVirgo]

You'll get a pagetop soon I believe in you!

[JacksonVirgo]

Just...

[JacksonVirgo]

Not this one

[JacksonVirgo]

Not this either if you delete a post.

[JacksonVirgo]

Or this if you delete another. Aight I'm done now, goodnight

[JacksonVirgo]

You're not *that* new. hm. am I worried this is newbscum now? absolutely.
Jacko not suspecting here is strange as well considering Jacko saw two of my first few scum games on site and he knows that I used to pull the noob card hard. I would be like "hmmm so if there's a fn and a tracker, its got to be column a setup"

Yeah alright I'll look into that now, I let it slide ngl

[JacksonVirgo]

I just briefly looked at Zurel's only finished game onsite. Tho the game was short I would die before I believe the abbreviation "SR" wasn't used.

I looked at both their games, SR was not used by them specifically but they did quote a post that said it.

Scumread was used though.

[JacksonVirgo]

Zurel is a SL but there's nothing more to it unless they keep using their noob card in a ... what I consider unreasonable way.

At the risk of using my noob card, what is SL?

Scum lean

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm going to disregard that noob card for now, Zurel is fairly townie except for one big of one of their posts which pinged me a lil tad and I feel they tried pocketing me. If they didn't include t I would lock-town them but they did so yeah.

Not saying what just yet

[JacksonVirgo]

Hmmm...

Here is where I show how easy it is to sow doubt in my mind.

@Noraa

How hard did Jackson go after you for using noob card? I mean, since you guys dug up my game, I can also ask about your games.

I believe I hosted the game where they used the noob card.

[JacksonVirgo]

Prodge for now

[JacksonVirgo]

Hmmm...

Here is where I show how easy it is to sow doubt in my mind.

@Noraa

How hard did Jackson go after you for using noob card? I mean, since you guys dug up my game, I can also ask about your games.

I believe I hosted the game where they used the noob card.

Noraa mentioned two games though.

Also, at this rate I will go to bed before you do.

Yeah I'm not entirely sure about any other game

[JacksonVirgo]

Hmmm...

Here is where I show how easy it is to sow doubt in my mind.

@Noraa

How hard did Jackson go after you for using noob card? I mean, since you guys dug up my game, I can also ask about your games.

I didn't, I almost lock-towned them which is honestly a terrifying thought.

[JacksonVirgo]

I'll start with my scum reads.

1) GoldenParadox

Your TGP read is very similar to my own read, so I can definitely get behind that one.
To be completely honest your Noraa read is very similar to mine also, especially that post as I said.

Zurel and Noraa are both easy town. TGP is the most likely scum from what I've got aorn.

VOTE: Paradox

It can't be this easy, but

VOTE: GoldenParadox

This may lead us somewhere.

this pings me

vote: Zurel

Oh, good grief. I thought NM would be a handful, looking at how people raved about them. But here you are.

VOTE: Zurel

Yeah I don't like this discrediting, at all. I feel Rockhopper is radiating newbtown energy

[JacksonVirgo]

It's page 6.

Do not care, it's still garbage fire

[JacksonVirgo]

Town bin now contains: NM, fuzzy, and Shoshin
Scum bin contains: Golden, Hiraki, and Shelly welly

Now we're just missing one scum and the game's solved
Im being overly positive considering this solve might have some problems but eh, idc. Let a girl dream.

Did you just TMI the scum amount?

[JacksonVirgo]

Infact, you should vote TGP

No, scum would have claimed PR. TGP is town

[JacksonVirgo]

Shelly welly

shelly is... the mod.

mhm this is a 14 player mini with a 4 people scum team where one is confirmed scum by the mod, shelly welly. It's like an IC but for scums.

It's a 12 player list dude

[JacksonVirgo]

TGP did claim Vanilla Townie and they are obviously Town for it. What mafia would NOT claim PR if pushed to be yeeted D1

[JacksonVirgo]

TGP did claim Vanilla Townie and they are obviously Town for it. What mafia would NOT claim PR if pushed to be yeeted D1

Can't there be any possibility of WIFOM?

WIFOM by claiming VT in hopes of being called out like I did is WAY higher risk for reward here. They're just easy town.

[JacksonVirgo]

Sup

[JacksonVirgo]

Apparently that wasn't enough for a prodge.

SO...

Sup

[JacksonVirgo]

Shelly welly really be mad.

That wasn't even enough for a prodge.

Not_Mafia is acting anti-town. Thar she blows I'm gucci now

[JacksonVirgo]

I just think that flip turns green rather than red.

if golden flips red, we are limming you immediately the next day no question.

We're not flipping Golden, they're Town

[JacksonVirgo]

Infact, you should vote TGP

No, scum would have claimed PR. TGP is town

I almost always claim vt as scum bc of this train of thought so absolutely not. Jacko, ur partner equity with golden just went up.

also he claimed when
1) he wasn't at E-1
2) no one even declared intent

That's towny behavior?

NU UH

Seriously? Just because you do something doesn't mean it's normal to do. You're reaching pretty far

[JacksonVirgo]

TGP did claim Vanilla Townie and they are obviously Town for it. What mafia would NOT claim PR if pushed to be yeeted D1

hmmm
Hiraki/Jacko/Golden/Shelly

it sounds quite plausible if u ask me.

VOTE: Noraa

[JacksonVirgo]

Noraa is discrediting all that disagree with them

[JacksonVirgo]

I am starting to think that Noraa is tunneling and quite stuck in there. She is reading scum anyone who goes against her, but I don't think Jackson is scum. Just looking at the vote placement, if Jackson was scum, why would Jackson vote me when there are many other wagons they could push and get a town eliminated?

At the risk of getting her scumread, I VOTE: Unvote: TGP

Quit pocketing me. And if you want to unvote. Use the appropriate tags please
Which is

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[unvote][/unvote]
[uv][/uv]

UNVOTE: Noraa
UNVOTE: Noraa


VOTE: Noraa

[JacksonVirgo]

I screwed up the format, but that was an unvote.

Oh lmfaoo

[JacksonVirgo]

I am starting to think that Noraa is tunneling and quite stuck in there. She is reading scum anyone who goes against her, but I don't think Jackson is scum. Just looking at the vote placement, if Jackson was scum, why would Jackson vote me when there are many other wagons they could push and get a town eliminated?

At the risk of getting her scumread, I VOTE: Unvote: TGP

Hello! You have fallen into Hiraki's trap then :/

Again discrediting those that disagree with Noraa

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: FuzzyLogic

That's the best wagon I can see right now. Everyone else is either my town lean or I can't yet understand why they're voted.

This is such a bad vote LOL.

mislims are not, in fact, good for town. furthermore, you CONSISTENTLY tunnel town, so consistently, over and over again, you are wrong, and consistently, you still KEEP DOING THIS.

Can you not shade me based on my literal like three newbie games?

Look at this hypocrisy

[JacksonVirgo]

Scum bin: Golden, Hiraki, Shelly
Null bin: geraint, Taylor, Shoshin, Herta, Jacko, Rockhopper
Town bin: Fuzzy, NM, Zurel

If golden flips scum, the team is Golden/Hiraki/Shelly Welly/mystery person
Myster person is most likely in : {Jacko, Shoshin, Taylor} <- subject to change. its a gun to head pool that I threw out there.

So, I'll explain a bit about the changes.
Shoshin recently had some things that pinged scum a bit to me. It has brought to my attention the following pairings: Golden/Shoshin and Herta/Shoshin
So, Shoshin goes from TR to null.

NM town bin I never really explained, I realized. It's just that I agree with almost everything he says and I'm p confident in a red golden flip and if golden flips red, he has had the closest thought process to my own this entire time and has supported it a shit ton. Scum would support it and then maybe "get distracted" half way thru and switch off.

Zurel is pretty meh but I dont sense any scummy vibes at all which could be a red flag but I'm willing to town bin for now.

If Golden ever flips green, all my reads reset and I reread this entire game. If golden is green, something went really wrong somewhere and I will figure out what it was that went south.

You shove me in a scum-bin earlier and yet throw me out of it just like that. Means you do not have genuine town thoughts

[JacksonVirgo]

Currently, I dont believe golden EVER flips green here.

Faking confidence

[JacksonVirgo]

who wants a noraa wagon?

Yes

[JacksonVirgo]

I can easily see a Zurel/Noraa scum-team

[JacksonVirgo]

I need Jackson back I think bc they seem to have sensible takes.

Howdy

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't like Noraa's discrediting and shading of those that disagree with them as well as their super confident tunnel on TGP. Zurel's constant pocketing of me I don't like either, especially when they are super aware that it may be seen as if they are which isn't a townie mindset also them trying to sway me onto a top wagon is scummy.

[JacksonVirgo]

I need Jackson back I think bc they seem to have sensible takes.

Howdy

Me trying to evaluate people the best I can even when I'm called shitty and scum, is pocketing, but this isn't?

Get off your high horse, Jackson. I have no appetite to pocket you.

"no appetite to pocket me" means literally nothing. And that I did see that as pocketing and I wanted to see where it went before calling it out. Don't you ever think I'm dead tunneled on you, you aren't the most important person in the world. So instead of attacking me because I don't TR you, actually focus on scum-hunting instead of baseless attacks like this.

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't like Noraa's discrediting and shading of those that disagree with them as well as their super confident tunnel on TGP. Zurel's constant pocketing of me I don't like either, especially when they are super aware that it may be seen as if they are which isn't a townie mindset also them trying to sway me onto a top wagon is scummy.

Nora's clueless. It might means she's scum, I'm not sure, but I'd rather go for the obvious scum in Herta.

Zurel's town, and I'll stake the game on that. Pocketing isn't scummy, and if you think it is, you should be willing to vote Herta as well.

Pocketing is when their entire mindset does not fit into town!pocketing. Herta isn't as obvscum as you think they are

[JacksonVirgo]

Zurel's constant pocketing of me I don't like either, especially when they are super aware that it may be seen as if they are which isn't a townie mindset also them trying to sway me onto a top wagon is scummy.

I don't think trying to sway people to your thinking is scummy, either. These are bad reasons to suspect Zurel.

Why haven't you commented more on Herta or Taylor?

I haven't gotten to them yet.

[JacksonVirgo]

Herta isn't obvscum, because scum rarely are obvious.

Why contradict yourself here?

[JacksonVirgo]

Geraint, why do you town read Fuzzy?

do I?

If Shoshin is mafia, Fuzzy and Geraint are both Town.

[JacksonVirgo]

I can easily see a Zurel/Noraa scum-team

explain the zurel scumread for me?

Pocketing and general self-awareness that town wouldn't have.


pedit: I had this page open with this in it and I'm not sure if I sent it so if I did this is a double post and I sowwy lol

[JacksonVirgo]

I carried, yw