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[Gretchen]

heeeeey lmao VOTE: AliceK. why do you think mini pointed out the deadline being long Alice?

[Gretchen]

Day 1: dear diary, i saw Alice online and thought i'd hit her with a question but then she went offline. maybe she doesn't like me ):
2 week deadlines are crazy to me. i could start up a village, burn it to the ground, and then start up another village in that time. it's a looot of time. at least we'll all be good friends and know each other reeeeeallly well by the end of this. maybe TOO well. idk about you diary but i dunno if i wanna be friends with all these people. there's some sus sounding names on that plist. like entrapta. what's she trying to trap... ta?

as for me? i got town again haha. don't think i should say my role here bc sometimes i drop my diary and menacing maf could read it, but i like it. i mean it's not maf so by default it's golden in my eyes. no gamma or italianooooo to bully this game, but i, wait no, not bullying, that makes me sound mean. no gamma or italianoooooooooo to catch this game. it's fine. maybe i get to take down GERAINTM as maf. we'll see.

[Gretchen]

the real Gretchen is fleeting. like a dream. hi ydrasse!

[Gretchen]

heeeeey lmao VOTE: AliceK. why do you think mini pointed out the deadline being long Alice?

Because other deadlines are shorter. He had to play shorter game. Good observation Gretchen.

not what i was getting at lmao, but i like that you actually went and did the research

[Gretchen]

VOTE: geraintm very astute observation on it being the 20th today. we can't have smart thinkers like you go by unnoticed

[Gretchen]

rawr

[Gretchen]

mini you're so towny lmao. can you get a better pfp bc your current one is pretty maf which doesn't fit. it sounds like clidd repped in thinking art was town so uh, i'm gonna sheep his uninformed read before he repped in and figure he's town. easy.

[Gretchen]

any thoughts on your wagon hypo? it's looking real hot right now, you must feel really popular

[Gretchen]

i voted gera bc his entrance was actually weird. like, why is he talking about it being the 20th lmao, if i had to rank that rvs post on a stilted/natural scale of 1 to 300, with 1 being as stilted as stilts, and 300 being as natural as aloe vera, i'd say his post was a solid 40.

off

. and no rvs vote lends to that num btw. anyway that's my only sus so far

[Gretchen]

are you worried that the evil-spirit hunting Winchester brothers are going to hunt you down as a doppelganger?

RAWR

[Gretchen]

idk what you mean, i'm just a brand new account trying to get by. my only maf experience comes from playing a lot of poker so that's why i'm so good at the game btw

[Gretchen]

also DOUBLE RAWR

[Gretchen]

wait that's a single rawr. let me try again



RAWR RAWR
nice.

[Gretchen]

Flavor leaf?

heeeeey clidd. looking classy today

[Gretchen]

loves your eyes. so easy to lose myself in them...

[Gretchen]

i'm fun and i don't need YOUR approval fake dragon

[Gretchen]

fun is never an agenda. fun is for fun. what a silly ludgate.

[Gretchen]

geeera i like that you like that i'm weirded out by you. why's that entrapta post vote worthy?

[Gretchen]

Should I have not outed him or something

Umm I didn't have a point really

i think i like this reaction. to the point and he's not making up an explanation. i'd sail with you into the sunset if you have a yacht

[Gretchen]

geeera i like that you like that i'm weirded out by you. why's that entrapta post vote worthy?

actually i'm not sure anymore lmao

[Gretchen]

huh VOTE: da dude. april we work in very different ways and posting dumb shiz for fun is independent of my alignment. i don't do it for appearances. SILLY LUDGATE

[Gretchen]

what's scummy lmao

[Gretchen]

what's scummy lmao

Why did you vote da dude while talking to April? Did you think entrapta was scummy?

april's right and i think that's a maf-like rep. think she overreacted and used it as an excuse to get out of here, must really not like playing as maf LOL.

[Gretchen]

I take back my townread on this slot for the vote. This conclusion is very strange. Artemia had three posts and I can't even remember what she said in either of the three. Clidd/Gretchen makes a lot of sense given that.

that was a joke..i did like his confidence at declaring himself town though. obv art didn't do enough to be townread

[Gretchen]

Posts like this make me think Gretchen is even more scummy

you're just jealous of clidd's missing person catalyst eyes. but seriously. no.

[Gretchen]

Posts like this make me think Gretchen is even more scummy

you're just jealous of clidd's missing person catalyst eyes. but seriously. no.

Was your claim to be Flaveorleaf real? Something came up so I'll finish the next block hopefully today. If not, tomorrow at the latest.

what. i never claimed to be flavor leaf lmao

[Gretchen]

what's scummy lmao

Why did you vote da dude while talking to April? Did you think entrapta was scummy?

april's right and i think that's a maf-like rep. think she overreacted and used it as an excuse to get out of here, must really not like playing as maf LOL.

I'd say you're more right than you know, but I also think the fact you stumbled across something solid like that, uh, it's kind of a bad sign for you? Like, you just threw shit to see what sticks, and, uh, something stuck in the opposite direction?
I think entrapta, uh, tends to have a bit of thin skin just in general. That person is sensitive, man.

what are you even talking about here. i'm onto something but you're not maf? and you can see why i'd be onto something but it's a bad sign for me? lol

[Gretchen]

i still want da dude to die

[Gretchen]

honestly, im down to flip dadude, i think entrapta would have claimed PR if they were PR there, and i think it's an overall high info flip

Why would he claim PR on like page 10 with like 3 votes

where'd this happen? i don't see a PR claim

[Gretchen]

GROWL

[Gretchen]

amelie seems like town with one hiccup. amelie how sure are you of those 3 you picked out being maf?

[Gretchen]

Amelie's certainty about a scumteam is a little bit concerning. I'd have to know whether this is typical for her to really know if it's scummy tho. April has this sure of himself attitude that it does seem natural that he would be trying to put together teams off rip.

yeah. this.

[Gretchen]

hey april who pmed you asking if i was you. that's hilarious lmao.

[Gretchen]

ya i'm just waiting for us to flip da dude right now. i mean we all agree we're flipping him today right? let's just DO IT and see the prob maf flip.

as for reads. i like clidd's solving so far and him changing his reads dynamically like he's showing stocks go up and down lmao. and mini's vote on april i think comes from town, knowing how much of a pain april can be and how maf mini probably wouldn't want that hassle.

[Gretchen]

I’m not sure about flipping Da Dude as their wagon formed rather quickly so it’s either an opportunistic wagon for scum or scum could be bussing I’m not 100% sure on that plus we have time still which we can utilise

who cares about that mini. da dude is scum bc of entrapta's play and her rep, and bc of da dude's play since he came in. either lots of town all see the same thing or maf are bussing. either way we should kill the maf!

[Gretchen]

just flash forward klick

[Gretchen]

nah i think maf can bus day 1 for sure mini. just depends on the player and if they like to bus or not

[Gretchen]

definitely a chance one of their maf buds got one while others voted them. i'm not gonna go looking for them until we have the flip and i know they're maf though

[Gretchen]

Ydrasse reflects me as ''lost'', and this is unusual, considering that she can project on a organic level a flow of towny interactions as scum, just like she did in FL vs Hectic.

The apathy and the gradual loss of interest, as well as the eventual exit, within the context of she needing to play in side games and not having the time for the current game (plus boring gamestate), make me think that the slot is likely town. There is still a chance of scum!Ydrasse simply not being interested in the game, but I am convinced that I can reevaluate if that is the case depending on the successor.

*flip*
*flop*

VOTE: clidd

i don't think that's flip floppy at all. he's saying Ydrasse is prob town but if she's maf it'd be because of that and he'll reevaluate later if it's the case. it, like, makes a lot of sense to me.

how do you read da dude specifically?

[Gretchen]

Alright I am all caught up and this is my reads list

Town > Null > Scum
Clidd
Geraintm
Gretchen
Da Dude
RLotus
DGB
Alice
Amelie
Klick
Bugspray
Hypo
April

VOTE: April
I really am struggling to understand them. They post a lot and half if not most of the posts seem kinda shitposty which makes it hard to really sort them properly.

This is pretty close to being the opposite of my reads
Pretty weird post to make for scum though, and I can see how a town!Mini writes this. She kinda outright says that she's 'having trouble sorting' April instead of outright finding her scummy, and that's the sort of nuance and lack of thinking about presentation that I see a lot more often from less experienced town than scum

I can't go back and check rn clidd but like
how much confidence do you have in Da Dude scum?

Because I feel like you shouldn't be moving me up if you think Da Dude is scum because my catchup should make plenty of sense to you from the perspective of a buddy who came in wanting to save their buddy

these 3 posts are really damn good lmao and the third is exactly where my mind jumped to.

[Gretchen]

Seriously, don't waste a vote on an Innocent Child.

Let April eat a night kill for us. Or, if she proves to be lying, then get her on day four. There is ZERO reason to vote her out before then.

lmao. April can you not implode and self vote when you get literally any votes? like regardless of your alignment why do you even do that?

[Gretchen]

bugspray is town. clidd is town. da dude is still maf and no one wants a obvious maf slot. let's put it out of its misery please.

hey klick, look at entrapta's last post where she declares her replace out and tell me that sounds natural or believable. i mean really?

[Gretchen]

kinda feel like fun in this game is over, boon is just going to do the same boon shit as every game and bug is going to nag me when I have emphasized to them that I am consciously working on it

like if you're going to snipe me every fucking time then it makes me feel like you don't appreciate how fucking hard it is to keep track of pronouns when there's 3 people playing cross-gender stealth alts, 8 people I've literally never played with before, and all the other fucking noise in this game

[Gretchen]

Although, that Idris Elba vote got some stank on it

i don't understand this?

i just realised my random vote was on the big wagonUNVOTE:

I feel like...like scum would try to act more clueless? Does anyone know, er...does anyone know if geraint is the type of person to feign ignorance as scum?

i think maf or toen gera is telling the truth there and this is a dumb thing to talk about.

not exactly keeping good, uh, good track of amelie's thought process, but overall it seems to be towny
not a fan of april not seeing that currently, man.

da dude himself says he has mixed feelings about Amelie. like, her thought process is hard to keep track of BUT he finds it towny anyway for some unknown reason. and he likes April for maf because she doesn't see that same mixed/conflicted view? these are fake maf reads. come on.

[Gretchen]

i think 95% of people are irresponsibly lazy or forget so reports seem unnecessary. reminding them is a good idea to get people to remember. i know there are a few people who will intentionally misgender though and it becomes obv who they are bc they lash out eventually after you remind them.

[Gretchen]

i'm obv not saying entrapta is part of that 5% lmao. i just realized that post could be taken that way.. no, but reporting those kind of peeps is good

[Gretchen]

hello

I have dnd this afternoon but I'll read and catchup this evening

I will as soon as I've finished reading

how are you reading my slot?

very mafy emojis you're using here Danny boi

[Gretchen]

gretchen #594 is gross but that might mean town

what do you mean?

[Gretchen]

Dannflor's come in and run a storm and he says convincing thing and makes good arguments, but most of them are based on the premise he's town and how maf would be reacting in such a gamestate. UGH you're so hard to read. i do agree with all of that though, maf are probably soft defending or vanity voting other players rather than hard defending or pushing

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

DANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

i don't like the alice wagon though

[Gretchen]

april's dumb and tunneled on genuinely nai things. maybe even town indicative things but i dunno. still think dann slot is maf tbh.

hey dann why do you agree with that post given you think several others are maf over me and maf would know april made that post?

[Gretchen]

is mini getting replaced?

[Gretchen]

tunneled on genuinely nai things

This put me over really, i wasn’t even really focusing on Gretchen, they were completely secondary.

Means they’re feeling the pressure and reacting poorly towards it, and i do think Dann has Towned it up in ways he wouldn’t if he were scum here.

not pressured by anything at all. just annoyed that you think i'm maf for literally having fun. that actually gets on my nerves

[Gretchen]

eh. town novice detective. this push makes me quite annoyed honestly bc of the lack of reasoning with all those naked votes and the primary reason being based on 'having fun' essentially. be back later

[Gretchen]

but yeah, just so you know April, if you wanna know what killed my motivation and enthusiasm for this game, it was you saying that right at the start

[Gretchen]

entrapta was being sussed for normal things? and repped out after using it as an excuse was why i dislike that

Gretchen is coming across to me like they're trying too hard to be fun, not that I think they have a hard time doing that, but I feel like that's specifically the play with them here because I do see agenda within it, even this early, which I normally wait it out

this 'trying to hard to be fun' shit and thinking me wanting to have fun in a mafia game is tied to my alignment really riles me up

[Gretchen]

Gretchen's frustration seems more about feeling like she can't just have fun and less about being scumread for it

this. i'd get frustrated about this as maf as well

[Gretchen]

eh. town novice detective.

btw did you crumb this at any point

no

[Gretchen]

but yeah, just so you know April, if you wanna know what killed my motivation and enthusiasm for this game, it was you saying that right at the start

you are going to get scum read for 'incorrect' reasons in every single game

you're not a new player, I feel like this should not be new to you

which is why this feels more like scum frustrated by being caught for the wrong reasons than town frustrated because they think town is scum reading them wrongly

sigh it's not because of incorrect reasons. it's because of this reason in particular making me feel less like having fun this game bc having fun apparently gets me read as maf

[Gretchen]

yeah sure he felt off early on, VOTE: geratimn. he was also talking about votes going from one wagon to another without actually giving an explicit read on me. shaded a wagon hop but didn't want to give a stance on the actual wagon or slot. sus sus

[Gretchen]

moving past whatever that garbage dump of a conversation was. gonna try and play this with a NEW outlook. FRESH takes and BRIGHT horizons to look forward to. dann is right and April is just one person. i'm silly to let a stance like that get to me. silly SILLY GRETCHEN

[Gretchen]

i love you April

[Gretchen]

i love you Klick

[Gretchen]

yeah i'm still not sold on dann tbh but seems like there's no support there anymore. if it's not dann i can see gera as maf. even after being sussed he hasn't really done anything and has been controlled. AAA aaaaaand i really liked solon's posting after repping in even if the claim was premature.

[Gretchen]

bugspray still obvtown

[Gretchen]

if gretchen is ok with biped elim i'll do it

Klick vouched for me based on his role synergizing with mine which seems dumb to do if he's maf. basically the main reason my wagon was derailed. like why not let a pr be sentenced to death rather than do that?

[Gretchen]

i can see hypo being maf. the taking april's IC claim at face value is prob maf indicative too since there's less reason for maf to think town could be lying while most others have reasonable doubt even if they've never played with April before

[Gretchen]

See, yeah, compared to "late activated IC", Novice Detective IS something that makes sense for scum to claim.

Also, it feels like you made the claim pretty early... like, as town it's a role you want to keep secret. You weren't at risk of being hammered immediately (only E-2 at the time you made the claim, if I counted correctly), so why would you give up the town power role's anonymity so quickly?

Edit by way of preview: +1 to April's "frustrated scum" analysis

lmao i want to vote him for this post alone. infact i will do that, VOTE: HypoSoc

[Gretchen]

try shaking your head instead

[Gretchen]

yooooooooo

[Gretchen]

that's an odd response to a scum read pushing you

VOTE: that's true, Goofball

[Gretchen]

oops lmao

[Gretchen]

VOTE: Goofball in case the Miltank is pedantic

[Gretchen]

yeah that doesn't make any sense to me either. if you're maf and see a PR why would you bother to push them when they can claim and probably make you look bad and probably not get limmed, when instead you can just nightkill them. amelie's got worse and worse this game

[Gretchen]

VOTE: clidd

[Gretchen]

bugspray i think clidd was towny with his dynamic readlists tbh. dann the game is dead and these reasons you're holding out on DGB being scum wcould help

[Gretchen]

and yes solon, give us the scooop

[Gretchen]

VOTE: Goofy

[Gretchen]

Imagine your surprise after I flip

weird thing to say instead of saying one of the other claims could be maf. WE GOT EM

[Gretchen]

wait i didn't see their posting on this page looks pretty damn towny

[Gretchen]

VOTE: Amelie

Goofy's defeatist nature and self trashing i hardly ever see come from maf like this

[Gretchen]

that too but they did claim after i claimed so doesn't mean as much. i think they're just town for the way they're acting though

[Gretchen]

By the way, Gretchen, which point of my behavior reflected you as towny/why? (expand impression)

keeping track of all your reads and dynamically changing them. also how you moved bugspray up after they called you scummy and said the read thing you were doing was scummy

[Gretchen]

Update:

{April Ludgate} {bugspray}

{geraintm}

{MiniMegabyte} {Klick}

{Amélie}

{AliceK} {Gretchen}

{HypoSoc} {RLotus}

↓

{DrippingGoofball}

{Da Dude}

clidd can you do more than posting this list?

you made a bunch of nice posts with content to analyze and then i explaiend why they are all scum looking and you gave an unprovable excuse and have not made any post with more than one line or a readlist ever since and i really don't like it

Update:

{bugspray}

↑

{April Ludgate}

{geraintm}

{MiniMegabyte} {Klick}

{Amélie}

{AliceK} {Gretchen}

{HypoSoc} {RLotus}

{DrippingGoofball}

{Da Dude}

10/10

[Gretchen]

Amelie wagon anyone?

[Gretchen]

it's dumb to find the maf in the PRs right now when they have to kill them for us anyway. why's Amelie town?

[Gretchen]

From the past few pages Gretchen looks the worse for giving dripping goofball a pass for a clear attempt to fake defeatism. I have zero doubt that behavior can come from town but I find it so unlikely that a town pr would act like that under pressure. I will try to check in every day but I guarantee nothing so if a claim is needed, I'll provide it now if two people reply within five minutes.

Amelie's OMGUSing but instead of being honest about it and saying it's because she doesn't like my push on her, she's making up some weird reason lmao. like multiple people had that reaction to DGB, not just me, are we all sus?

VOTE: Amelie this is maf

[Gretchen]

think about it clidd. Amelie said i looked the worst from the last few pages because Goofy's defeatism was thaat fake. but if she finds Goofy's defeatism that fake she should think Goofy looks the worst from the last few pages, not me.

[Gretchen]

it's a convoluted reason to OMGUS instead of reacting like how i think a town would OMGUS. feels like maf

[Gretchen]

am i the only seeing Amelie as obv maf now? she doesn't even have the timeline of who omgused who right lmao. the last line especially feels very fake

[Gretchen]

i also don't get her confidence in the defeatism being fake regardless of Goofy's alignment. why would town be faking that?

[Gretchen]

i'd much rather prefer amelie than clidd. lotus you're overthinking it and considering wagons too much when you should just vote for who you think is maf, there's no way to tell if all the prs on amelie were town and even if one of them was maf, they could be bussing or distancing by voting her. you're really just calling amelie town because you think 1 maf could have voted there? that means literally nothing lmao.

[Gretchen]

Those feel like the most interesting posts. pretty much happy with either clidd or amelie.

Overalll, i dislike CLidd more. I never got their vote yesterday, and the change in post count and being off wagon now (to me it has the hallmarks of scum team trying to share around being on and off wagon) feels weird.

go amelie dude

[Gretchen]

sorry will read later. dgb still looks obvtown to me. the tracker guilty is interesting though, and dann did insinuate he had some kind of guilty on them before they claimed. it's possible maf has a rolecop who checked dann and knows he's a tracker so dog knew to claim that knowing what kind fo guilty dann would have. yeah whatever VOTE: DGB

[Gretchen]

lmao what am i even doing. calls a slot obvtown and votes them in the same post. but seriously, their play looks town but the guilty is a guilty so meh. also i don't care enough right now to make my own push

[Gretchen]

It's E-1.

yeah.

[Gretchen]

what do you think of llamma and vfp, Alice?

[Gretchen]

i'm so incredibly lazy this game, i don't deserve to be here

clidd, why do you still find Amelie maf? i've actually found d her recent thoughts towny and lacking an agenda

[Gretchen]

Actually lets do this instead

Vote AliceK

Day one they do nothing in terms of scumhunting. There actually is an over two week span where they are on Entrapa (Dann) and actually never address any reasons or try and gather any other support. Just sits back and says little while others peruse things. Also seems to at most just chainsaw April slot quite a bit.

Day two they show heavy interest in getting a claimed PR ran up, and then moves off the claimed PR for... the player the claimed PR says to have somewhat cleared because that player has a town read on someone. We are on day two. We have multiple claimed PRs. Alice is voting someone, who one of the PRs is saying they have down as clear, because Alice doesnt think there is a reason to have that strong of a town read on the player. Its also just confusing because if you think Solon is lying and never cleared Lotus... the move is to vote Solon.

She has been hesitant to do anything the whole game, attacking a player for being too confident in a town read (which lets me honest, the confidence there doesnt even seem high) and has routinely either refused to or decided not to try and get any sort of a push together to try and move the game in a direction they wanted. This is what scum who is happy keeping a status quo in the game looks like. I feel ive added more to this game in one day than Alice has in one month. This needs to start being the wagon.

VOTE: AliceK

[Gretchen]

alice solon vfp?

[Gretchen]

Alice solon and 1 of vfp or amelie i think

[Gretchen]

alice solon vfp?

As a solve?

yeah. you, llama, dann for his track, DGB, and gera all feel town.

[Gretchen]

damn. vfp's putting in a lot of effort. ok. Alice solon and 1 of amelie or lotus then.

[Gretchen]

solon had massive energy coming in and looked ready to FIGHT but running out of gas and checking out is very maf indicative.

[Gretchen]

did solon ever full claim or just leave it at 'TPR'?

[Gretchen]

i actually completely agree. vfp lacks SOUL, and feels like he's afraid to take any hard stances. maybe i'm dumb to label him probtown just bc he's putting effort in

[Gretchen]

yeah llama and bugspray have both been extremely towny. probably my top townread. entrapta was weird in how they left and dann hasn't been CRAZY towny but actually getting a tracker guilty on DGB implies town, maf probably don't track DGB and tracker is also a weird role for maf?

[Gretchen]

you think so? i suppose that's true that scum!dann doesn't leave it ambiguous and just gets the miselim when he's perfectly justified in pursuing it. instead his approach was 'you guys can judge for yourselves after i probably get nightkilled and you see my flip'

[Gretchen]

well now we wait for an alice replacement bc we need a claim i guess.

[Gretchen]

ooor we could just kill her anyway and save not_mafia the trouble bc a claim means little for her alignment tbh. repping out as soon as she receives some pressure bodes well for her flipping maf.

[Gretchen]

the biggest detractor from this game is apathy and dying interest bc of how slow everything is so waiting for someone would worsen the situation and could result in more rep outs. maybe a flip really is the best thing we can do. i say flip it now.

[Gretchen]

@DGB - Can you do me a quick favor and just confirm that you got a "positive" result N1?

I got Negative????????

Okay good. Thats the right result. Figured why not try to trap by fishing for an incorrect result.

lmao nice test.

[Gretchen]

amelie, how do you read me now that you see the same thing i see with regards to DGB?

[Gretchen]

that sad truth is that most players have random or very close to random reads. the good players that don't will find maf eventually and it's down to the collective to sheep them. but it's why you need a game's EV (expected value for a town win if random elims) to be as close to 50% as possible, since most games are just random reads and RANDOM.

if we were all good at detecting liars then EVs would need to be like 30 or 40% but since we're all random it needs to be 50%. sad isn't it.

well it's not sad. there are players who have far better than random reads and we can all ASPIRE to improve and become better and be like that someday.

[Gretchen]

also, mechanical guilties are the most boring thing ever to me but those kind of investigatives are needed to bring the EV up

[Gretchen]

Amelie still rubs me as playing dumb and her reada have a lot of logical holes but i don't think i believe in her flipping maf anymore

[Gretchen]

I think Amelie is just bad... I can identify with that... but town.

(you're both voting for me)

[Gretchen]

can we just kill Alice since no one's taking the two slots? kill her and let nm just replace solon overnight

[Gretchen]

yo

[Gretchen]

i'm probably dead tonight so your time would be wasted trying to solve me flea. i thought your predecessor's reaction to a push was supremely maf

pooky, how do you read our dear amelie?

[Gretchen]

she noped outta here when llama cased her. the case itself is alright too. i'll try and read through your catchup now...

[Gretchen]

you don't think her disappearance was effected by coming back and seeing that case and deciding not to post? it likely was, regardless of her alignment

[Gretchen]

nice jab though

[Gretchen]

flea, do you read OMGUS as towny or scummy?

[Gretchen]

ok cool. so. lets talk about my claim;

i claimed novice detective day 1 and you think that's a horrible claim in your catchup. however, dgb claims night 1 detective AFTER i've claimed on the next day, which fits very well with a novice detective claim, given they're essentially opposites in how they work and what nights they operate; it just makes a lot of sense. ergo, dgb is either town who's role fits with mine or maf who's claiming something that would fit with my role.

are we in agreement or disagreement?

[Gretchen]

(i meant night 1 psychologist for dgb)

[Gretchen]

Correction, DGB claimed N1 ability to see if someone could kill. That would show a positive on vigilantes, SKs, scum, but not PGO or gunsmith.
Where a Psychologist cant detect if someone has killed, only if they have potential before they kill, a detective can see if someones killed.

Given you claimed first, its possible DGB threw that claim out there to buy credits.

What I hated about your claim is the timing, the feel and the reaction you had around your wagon. It felt panicked which is not a vibe I get from your slot. The vibe I get from your slot is one of calculation and awareness.

Your play has been absolutely horrible, honestly. And you should have been the N1 shot from any scum perspective as you're the big danger. Novice or not. DGB being N1 is spent, and the role gets weaker as the game progresses regardless where yours gets stronger.

You're right, you dont live tonight. That doesnt mean you're free of my PoE though, and DGB gets yeeted today no matter what IMO.

nasty. bottom line do you think i'm town playing badly (in your opinon) or maf?

[Gretchen]

hmm, nope, i can't tell. always been bad at assessing people pushing me. my first inclination is to townread you for the unpopular push though. although i'd appreciate you being a little less harsh on my play either way lmao.

[Gretchen]

amelie or dgb. amelie or dgb. amelie or dgb.

[Gretchen]

VOTE: amelie

[Gretchen]

VOTE: Almost50

don't like playing maf, eh?

[Gretchen]

Almost50 is posting everywhere but here. let's death him.

[Gretchen]

gera is probably a vt

[Gretchen]

Goofball

believes

in what they say. That is the key to why they are town.

I can believe in what I say as any alignment, and I do.

In fact lets use this, because I like this. Do I seem like I believe what I'm saying?

minimegabyte was surface level and mafy. solon entered with a lot of fire which quickly burnt out bc playing maf takes a lot of energy. almost50 hasn't posted anything in 3 days while being active in every other game.

this is a maf slot.

[Gretchen]

didn't mean to quote that

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if you'll be around for deadline, join me now so to encourage others to move their votes. you can always switch back if needed. i'll be around to hammer gera too if we needed.

but seriously, gera reads as a stubborn vt who knows his claim means death, while almost50 is maf. i like the sound of killing the maf.

[Gretchen]

@gera: vote almost50 you silly silly

[Gretchen]

Dgb vs Flea will hopefully solve itself tonight, so I have no interest in taking sides in the discussion.

And if it doesnt?

Take a side. Not optional.

Almost50 is posting everywhere but here. let's death him.

Yes lets lim the PR that greenlit a slot.

it's a maf pr, even better!

[Gretchen]

not mafia, you missed gera's vote

[Gretchen]

this logic of

OMG Solon claimed TPR!!! we can't kill that, no way

is so so stupid

all it means is that we're killing a maf PR if we kill Almost50

do you understand how incriminating it is that he's posting in everything but this?

[Gretchen]

unless there's strong evidence to suggest one of them is maf lotus.

mini was scummy. solon claimed way too early which was scummy. he replaced out bc he burnt out which is scummy. almost50 joined and then posted nothing after his first post for 4 days, while being active elsewhere. very scummy.

[Gretchen]

how is that even relevant flea. wanna actually address the logic instead of randomly attacking mr?

[Gretchen]

*me

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maybe flea is maf defending a partner

[Gretchen]

I dunno though

[Gretchen]

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[Gretchen]

VOTE: DGB