Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

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VOTE: STD

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Vote: Green Crayons.

They know why.

My charming personality, I'm sure.

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i think one or both of them might literally be scum pretending to stand out to look town

why though

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i already made my case against andres

gut

wat

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Am I confirmed town yet?

Not to me...

have you ever rolled scum?

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I don't find Osuka's self vote or Andres fake claim particularly scummy. Scum generally try to blend in on day one rather than stand out. I would rather look at the people attacking Osuka and Andres.

i think one or both of them might literally be scum pretending to stand out to look town

Hmm, maybe

Andresvmb

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why'd you pick andres over osuka?

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Am I confirmed town yet?

Not to me...

have you ever rolled scum?

Once.

please share a link

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case = scum sometimes are loud to pretend to be town
reasoning = gut feeling about this loud person being one who is pretending to be town

oicn

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VOTE: Save The Dragons

I’m not going to shy away from a fight if that’s what you want.

so what's this all about?

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green crayons and haschel cedricson, are you happy with your votes?

im always happy with my votes

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green crayons and haschel cedricson, are you happy with your votes?

More important question for Green is what did 102 do for him?

@Green

gave me a point of reference to see if my one prior experience with Salsa would be informative, because she was giving me pings of her prior play where she ultimately ended up showing herself as obvtown

more or less a moot point now bc i think her blow up was solidly town

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Yeah I'm torn on Osuka from games played.
Town games, he's just an edgy xQc fan.
Scum games he is as I said previously as more direct anger of being caught / fake anger to re direct. The only difference is he winds his neck in a lot more as scum, I guess to appease the player list instead. So it will be interesting to see here. I'm betting a double down.
Maybe Osuka is just going for town edgy again here though.

this just feels like scum latching on to someone who suspected them as a basis to effort post

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Bad manipulation here: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=35578

whats this supposed to link to?

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@Green Crayons can you post? What’s going on? You actually tried to stay somewhat involved as Scum last time we played and revealed your alignment somewhat quickly in my eyes. Are you trying to avoid that here?

lol

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VOTE: Andante

for the Robert reaction

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I'm torn between weather osuka is obvtown or if he might just hurt us in the long run by not listening to feedback and thinking that he's always right.

i don't understand the either/or here, as they both seem to be saying osuka is town

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Did you read the scum game? What style of play differs there?
Regardless of the read now.

i skimmed her iso. i suppose this might be premature conversation as Salsa could be scum faking ate but also this is just a temp check and not really confirmation one way or the other so just typing through my thoughts i guess i don't really care about discussing atm; overall, she didn't do as much of the in-depth assessments of players as she did in her obvtown game.

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no one seems to be pushing anya for posting almost exclusively filler even when there were better things to discuss. weird metaphors and non-pushes and... that seems to be it

Anya strikes me as an easy player to read as the day goes on.

oh i thought the gibberish was kids these days early D1 posting

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Yeah I'm torn on Osuka from games played.
Town games, he's just an edgy xQc fan.
Scum games he is as I said previously as more direct anger of being caught / fake anger to re direct. The only difference is he winds his neck in a lot more as scum, I guess to appease the player list instead. So it will be interesting to see here. I'm betting a double down.
Maybe Osuka is just going for town edgy again here though.

this just feels like scum latching on to someone who suspected them as a basis to effort post

Why latch on a cantankerous player like osuka? Aren't there targets that may not flinch quite as much when poked?

you can't pick who suspects you. it looked reactionary.

also i just got out of a scum game with Datisi where all he did was basically beg and scream and pout and demand in the scum pt for a town to start picking a fight with him so he could post up a storm. ik you arent Datisi but its fresh in my mind.

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VOTE: Andante

for the Robert reaction

lmao that's all? I'm genuinely your top fos? with all that has happened? Me not liking Robert's entrance is why you actually think I'm scum?

i don't really have a hierarchy of reads atm but this reaction isn't making me feel bad about my vote

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i don't follow the logic of basically anything Pawn is saying

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idk if that's ai, it's just annoying because it's distracting and makes me want to pipe up and say "that's not how thinking works" but what a distraction

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toying the theory that pawn and andres thinking the whole thread revolves around them might be town ai.

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Dragons has VPBaltar vibes so i'm going to say probably town

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Dragons has VPBaltar vibes so i'm going to say probably town

what does that mean

open, methodical, clear

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see, e.g., your self eval of andres

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woah are you trying to get killed night 1 insidious

We can just ask the mafia doctor to save insidious!!! duh! lmao (but for real, maf, we value insidious, and it would be greatly appreciated if you kept him around! Thank you)

this game is going to make me lose my mind. the longer i stare at this post the more i begin to think it's one of the most telling things andante has posted this whole game. what actual reason does town have to post this?

Also what reason does mafia have to post this though

maybe noob scum (oh ho look i'm posting a message to myself crazy right) but it's probably null

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osuka, please explain 461. if you were scum, how could you be coaching pawnsgambit right now, during D1? if i'm missing something obvious, tear me to shreds over it. but i want to know why you said what you said

doesn’t mafia have daytalk by default in normal games? the past several games i’ve played had mafia daytalk

old fogey game i recently played didnt have daytalk

other than that, last couple of games i recently played had daytalk

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I'm concerned with the number of salsas scumreads as I am with Robert.

tell me more

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replacing PawnsGambit.

wtf

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PookyTheMagicalBear replaces PawnsGambit.

oh i mean cool

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Green Crayons, will you be the first of my Nazgûl ? To ride forth and terrorize the land in my name?

do you pay union rates?

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i kind of want to get annihilated by pooky

sir this is a family game

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if you were joking the whole time then why separate the post into two parts? why say "but for real?"

pretty sure if this is noobscum the "but for real" clause is also supposed to be joking

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also strange to me that you only back up your null reads and don't mention your, you know, actual reads

agree with this point.

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one of my rules is no posts over 10 lines.

all hail Pooky, our new supreme overlord

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I changed my mind, Andante is town. Deal with it.

what's the post that did it for you?

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you may have gotten sucked in by an AtE

agree. neither of those two were the post that gave me pause.

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uhhh not really, too hard to explain, I'm gonna go play in the snow (we have a snow storm right now) and when I'm back I'm ISOing Haschel, and if he's been here for 5 days with no content, I'm voting him, would rather keep people who try.

VOTE: lemons

I thought I flipped it last... oops

What content did you find then?

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I feel like scum are trying to hide behind humour at this stage of the game.

Why do you have this feeling

Who is hiding behind humor

Why is humor AI here

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my problem with pooky is that i'm expecting some content from the slot even through the RPing.

me too but i feel some runway is appropriate, both because of a replace in + personality

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I'm still convinced Lemons is scum, has TMI and playing too matter of fact-ly

have you pointed out specific posts that support this?

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I'm surprised you are asking who is posting 'humour in this game. Are you just looking for particular comments to try and pull up rather than reading the game?

why are you misrepping to push this loaded question?

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I. Am. Not. A. Vanilla. Townie.

Yes that obvious but i was trying to be discrete.

It must have been obvious to STD, too.

STD IS SCUM.

lol whut

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the timing of adante's claim when she isn't exactly primed for an elim, but also it's suuuper weak and not something that would save her from an elim, doesn't strike me as a particularly smart scum play and so probably not coming from scum (~*~noobscum~*~ or otherwise)

VOTE: robert

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Why do you have this feeling

Who is hiding behind humor

Why is humor AI here

Because everyone in the game seems to be allowing it to happen.
If you set a line where jokes or sarcasm can easy be used as a deflection then it will be abused.

Normally having a player or 2 with this attitude doesn't mean much but considering how half the players are reacting to making reads / confirming reads / or generally posting, I think that scum will be taking advantage of this.

This isn't how games are normally and says a lot since I'm not overly a serious player standardly.

I'm surprised you are asking who is posting 'humour in this game. Are you just looking for particular comments to try and pull up rather than reading the game?

I asked for you to point out who is hiding behind humor, which was your theory about scum using humor here, not “who is posting humor” which is a dumb thing to ask bc as we all know nobody is funny on ms

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I asked for you to point out who is hiding behind humor, which was your theory about scum using humor here, not “who is posting humor” which is a dumb thing to ask bc as we all know nobody is funny on ms

Well if I knew as simple as who I would just be saying X and or Y are scum for hiding behind humour.
The fact so many players are going this route, it just means scum are getting away with it.

To clarify, I think scum are getting away with avoiding answering questions or giving realistic reads / reasons. I'm not set on who but Robert's original read list and some responses I have seen from them are a good start.
And there's more than 3 people playing like this, so it means that town are doing the same thing.

so i guess to get to the heart of this

you think that bc some not insignificant amount of the player base is trying to be funny

scum must be using humor as a weapon of blending in

but you don't have specific posts that are pinging you as scum potentially using humor as camo (well except robert but BUT things have changed maybe there)

this is just a theory about maybe what scum might want to do

.......

i think this is a bad theory but maybe town indicative

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i'm about 70% inebriated so not sure what this is but i endorse it

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I crumbed my role in my first post.

UNVOTE: robert

lol 20/20 hindsight and all but wow that was obvious my b


so can you please point out the post where you thought andante revealed her pr because i didn't see it and i thought that was you scum BSing

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So I guess it's just general meta to claim a PR now days.
No one has even been put to E1 and we have 2 claims.

I've just finished a game where there were 3 PRs claimed day 1 and 1 was scum.

UNVOTE: Robert M Hunter

Personally I don't support this kind idlf mentality in general.
I'll take a re look in the morning to see who I vote.

I wasn't at E-1, but everyone scumreads me so it was only a matter of time.

blending some of my threads of convo here

but

was your earlier posting totally in earnest, or was some of your posting just noise ("humor") mixed in with real reads?

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I crumbed my role in my first post.

Crumbing isn't really viable in my opinion if you claim it the same day you crumbed. Crumbing is for the long term. Anyone can crumb something in their first post and then use that the second there's a decent wagon on them

i dont understand this

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I think I prefer Pooky town here to Dragon.

why is this an either/or?

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I think I prefer Pooky town here to Dragon.

why is this an either/or?

Why are you not voting STD?

bc i dont think he's done anything suspicious

i have questions about T3's point after Dragons has responded

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there are a metric ton of posts since i last posted and my Monday is very busy. i won't be able to catch up until maybe tonight.

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done with work for now

I am not reading however many pages that is

Any questions for me or is this just a claim wagon?

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std why are you voting Andres

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my vote is on salsa right now

Why

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I have voted Andante and Haschel

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This game is stupid. Y’all posted 700 posts in 24 hours.

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Like I don’t know who to vote for because there are 700 posts that happened since I was caught up.

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No I’ve been underwater all day with work. I saw how much everyone posted over the night.

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mod please replace me I’m not able to play at this rate. Sorry datisi