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[T3]

VOTE: Beorge Gailey
I voted.
VOTE: Osetr
I also voted you.

[T3]

let the chaos commence VOTE: cool cookie

sup secret alt pretending to be new

[T3]

Anyways, I'll be kind of busy this weeked because I have a lot of homework
so unless I manage to write 3 papers and study for a physics exam at record speed I'll be posting less

[T3]

Is this a vote for T3 or Three?

sorry, I was trying to be quirky lol

It's for Three.

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

Quirkiness is towny.

Trying to be, isn't.

This is reading too deep.

[T3]

wow scummy
VOTE: House

Serious vote?
also ahhhhhh it's 4:11 am and i have a physics exam today
what am i doing

[T3]

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

Sure, I'll buy this and put some pressure here. I think trying to be quirky is weird too.

VOTE: fua

[T3]

also having a gut feeling that hawaiian pizza is gay

[T3]

wow scummy
VOTE: House

Serious vote?
also ahhhhhh it's 4:11 am and i have a physics exam today
what am i doing

Guess it's scummy to spam a pagetop out of boredom during rvs when nobody else is around.

Who knew?

You voted Bogdan.

[T3]

Buddies, huh
not like I'm scum or anything so I don't have them

[T3]

wow scummy
VOTE: House

Serious vote?
also ahhhhhh it's 4:11 am and i have a physics exam today
what am i doing

Guess it's scummy to spam a pagetop out of boredom during rvs when nobody else is around.

Who knew?

You voted Bogdan.

Who is bogdan?

Autocorrect I was trying to type Borge

[T3]

So I think thats 11 of us out of 13 who've posted
I just dont want to get tangled up while scum lurk but idk myb thats a good enough number

ok whos lurking then

VOTE: stonks

[T3]

VOTE: osetr
what am I doing
also this post is scummy af

[T3]

okay real vote

VOTE: Osetr
this is who s dying today

MINDMELD
i know the last time i did this i was scum mindmelding with town
but like yeah

[T3]

DUHHH GAY!!!! DUHHH MAY!!???!!1 GAY!!!!! IS THAT ALL YOU SHITPOSTING FUCKS CAN SAY!!??? DURR GAY GAY GAY HOMOSEXUAL GAY GAY HOMOSEXUAL GAY HOMOSEXUAL I FEEL LIKE IM IN A FUCKING ASYLUM FULL OF DEMENTIA RIDDEN OLD PEOPLE THAT CAN DO NOTHING BUT REPEAT THE SAME FUCKING WORDS ON LOOP LIKE A FUCKING BROKEN RECORD GAY GAY GAY HOMOSEXUAL GAY ONIONS ONIONS ONIONS SNOYY ONIONS LOL ONIONS!!! HAY!!!1 BOOMER!! LE ZOOMER!!!! I AM BOOMER!!!! NO ZOOM ZOOM ZOOMIES ZOOMER GOING ZOOMIES AHGHGH I FUCKING HATE THE INTERNET SO GODDAMN MUCH FUCKJK YOU SHITPOST I HONEST TO GOD HOPE YOUR MOTHER CHOKES ON HER OWN FECES IN HELL YOU COCKSUCKER VUT OHHH I KNOWM MY POST IS GAY ISNT IT?? GAY GAY GAT GAYU HOMOSEXUAL GAY HOMOSEXUAL REDDIT REDDIT GAY ZOOM GAY ONIONS REDDIT HOMOSEXUAL!!!!

redtea: votes osetr
no one: talks about gay
osetr:

[T3]

if you want my real thoughts then i unironically dont know whats scummy about me but i find it funny, if i get lynched its sending a message to not lynch shitposters for being shitposters
dont wanna die tho but i wont anyway, every day phase theres the guy whos sus at first then a guy whos sus afterwards and is the one thats lynched
so lets find a different vt to lynch

LOOK AT THIS ATEEEEEEEE

[T3]

3 votes in, dude is already flailing.

Wow.

if you want to think so
i call it having fun

oh this dude is def scum

you sound confident for someone who never played with me before

SCUM
LIKE WOW
THIS IS SCUM
There are other methods of reading people than meta?

[T3]

if you want my real thoughts then i unironically dont know whats scummy about me but i find it funny, if i get lynched its sending a message to not lynch shitposters for being shitposters
dont wanna die tho but i wont anyway, every day phase theres the guy whos sus at first then a guy whos sus afterwards and is the one thats lynched
so lets find a different vt to lynch

I didnt really understand the first part tbh

but for the second part, usually that second person is a mislim soooo

yes, and the first is usually mafia
i purposefully left that part out to pretend to prove my point

uhhhhmmmehmhmhmhhmm

[T3]

well im leaving the floor open to be contradicted with logic and facts

redtea feels waaaaay different than all the other games I've played with them, town or scum.

[T3]

Osetr, who's the scum on your wagon?

This very veguely feels like a partnery interaction.

[T3]

I think Osetr is town.

fua is really obvious scum.

Show your work

[T3]

I think Osetr is town.

fua is really obvious scum.

sorry bro but i feel like their minds are already made up

Mason tell harder.

so am i scum or am i mason

Missing obvious jokes is a tell in itself.

exactly how I caught cult leader page 9 in 3d20

[T3]

Also, frankly rude to tell someone new not to play again.

Anyone, for that matter

New or not.

His content is disturbing and disrespectful towards basically everyone here who's actually trying to play the game. I wouldn't say it if he was intentionally going out of his way to break the rules.

MU stopped using l-word (i think) so yeah, this makes sense.

[T3]

I think Osetr is town.

fua is really obvious scum.

No, I'm not. You just haven't played with me before.

Given that you're a new account (alt, I presume), I would say exactly no one has played with you before.

You are one to talk.

[T3]

you can call me "dota" instead it will be easier to spell

Aren't you banned from MU

[T3]

yes you are banned from mu

History repeating

[T3]

you can call me "dota" instead it will be easier to spell

Aren't you banned from MU

thats why im here

yikes
have fun getting banned from here too

[T3]

Oestr is at 4 votes
House is at 2 votes
redtea fua and three are all at 1
I think

[T3]

UNVOTE: osetr
He's an 18 year old who came on thus site to troll and be homophobic. He'll likely be banned and/or force replaced. Hopefully his replacement will be more readable.

[T3]

UNVOTE: osetr
He's an 18 year old who came on thus site to troll and be homophobic. He'll likely be banned and/or force replaced. Hopefully his replacement will be more readable.

lmao how am i homophobic if im friends with cheeze (hawaiian) whos gay
if me sending a copypasta makes me homophobic in your eyes then thats tough buddy

just like
yeah
but no

[T3]

T3's posts are awful.

I get that a lot.

[T3]

Dwlee99 replaces Osetr

HELLO!

[T3]

GeorgeBailey

Okay I'm gonna try to not spam the thread cause it looks like that already sort of happened and I'm normally spammy but something something game state here

This post feels slightly forced?

[T3]

House why am I voting you?

We're distancing, remember?

Aren't we all

[T3]

who said this could be 11 pages overnight

Presumably, anyone familiar with me.

[T3]

I'm going to claim. I'm an Informed Townie. I know there is a Bulletproof Mafia Traitor in the game. I think the quotes below are Redtea signalling to the rest of the mafia that they are said traitor, partly given it was a really weird out-on-a-limb connection to make in the context of the discussion to that point, and partly because there are very few reasons to make such an effort to hint that you are mafia-aligned, other than being the mafia traitor.

(Translator's Note: gay means mafia-aligned)

im gay

VOTE: redtea

I could be wrong, but there's nothing really lost by me claiming anyway as that's my only power.

AND A KO IN MIDAIR
VOTE: redtea

[T3]

cool cookie locktown

[T3]

Even if redtea flips town.

[T3]

who said this could be 11 pages overnight

Presumably, anyone familiar with me.

If you could make that meme with an actual picture of Dr. House & in a sig friendly size, I'd totally use it.

You can't add images to sigs

[T3]

Even if redtea flips town.

cool cookie locktown

Kinda reminds me of that gambit you made in Dead Silence.

bruh what
I did 2 gambits in the 2 DS games I played
The first gambit I claimed survivor
The second gambit I fake townslipped

[T3]

Oh. The survivor one. It was big brain energy.

[T3]

So uh
I am radiating the same big brain energy now?

[T3]

like 95% of the time an unprovoked fakeclaim, details about role pm, or soft will come from town

[T3]

I'm going to meta someone in the hopes that I can find a locktown
brb

[T3]

If t3 tells me to I will

GO GO GO

[T3]

Not giving the traitor an excuse to fish out a PR.

VOTE: redtea

dedede

[T3]

I can read STD really well because meta good
He hasn’t posted enough though

[T3]

I'm going to claim. I'm an Informed Townie. I know there is a Bulletproof Mafia Traitor in the game. I think the quotes below are Redtea signalling to the rest of the mafia that they are said traitor, partly given it was a really weird out-on-a-limb connection to make in the context of the discussion to that point, and partly because there are very few reasons to make such an effort to hint that you are mafia-aligned, other than being the mafia traitor.

(Translator's Note: gay means mafia-aligned)

im gay

VOTE: redtea

I could be wrong, but there's nothing really lost by me claiming anyway as that's my only power.

kfjadsklfnsadfj NO
also there's daytalk

You are already dead

[T3]

And I'm not saying it being a lie means anything about cool cookie's alignment.

>rand town post btw

[T3]

You are not already dead

[T3]

redress reaction feels real though.

[T3]

And I'm not saying it being a lie means anything about cool cookie's alignment.

>rand town post btw

disagree. just hedging bets.

Do you really think scum jacket would care that much about being right though?

[T3]

redress reaction feels real though.

did you actually mean redress or is this autocorrect at it again

Autocorrect

[T3]

redress reaction feels real though.

why would redtea-town stall on a claim?

No intent to hammer + could be a pr.

[T3]

Scum!Jacket would probably fear being a fence sitter

true tbh

[T3]

Eghhhh
I kind of see where jacket is coming from with fua obv scum though

[T3]

Vote Count 1.02

HawaiianPizza (1):

Osetr

Three (3):

Save The Dragons, GeorgeBailey, Dwlee99

cool cookie (1):

cool cookie

redtea (6):

HawaiianPizza, cool cookie, House, redtea, Three, fua

(E-1)

fua (1):

Jacket

Not Voting (2):

TheZenMan, Wake88

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[T3]

Okay caught up didn't realize people did say I should claim
I'm a town complex vigilante. Explains the bulletproof mafia, but that's also why my claim might not be that helpful as the counterpart has already been revealed.

This claim seems too complicated to come from scum?

[T3]

T3 do you still think I should hammer this? Does not sound smart

Hmmmm
Nah

[T3]

i'm ambivalent about the claim. an outted traitor doesn't serve much purpose for mafia, so there isn't anything we particularly lose by giving redtea a night to prove the claim. gut is i don't buy it though

Eghhhh
I kind of see where jacket is coming from with fua obv scum though

How so?

Fua's vote on george gut pinged me as really terrible.

[T3]

The scum team never has Goons in a 2 Mafia + Traitor scenario, so a failed kill should be considered a clear.

I think making assumptions about setup composition based on what you think is balanced is a very bad idea.

This is more reviewer meta though.
2 goons and a traitor never happens, it's almost always 2 prs and a traitor.

[T3]

Ooooooh
Would 1 goon, 1 pr, and 1 traitor pr be balanced

Depends

[T3]

this is ridiculous
if this isn't tvt i'll eat this delicious brownie
does scum go this hard over mechanics

People tend to write off shitfights like this as tvt
in practice they are actually slightly >rand t/s

[T3]

i'm ambivalent about the claim. an outted traitor doesn't serve much purpose for mafia, so there isn't anything we particularly lose by giving redtea a night to prove the claim. gut is i don't buy it though

Eghhhh
I kind of see where jacket is coming from with fua obv scum though

How so?

Fua's vote on george gut pinged me as really terrible.

I see.

VOTE: Fua

uh....
Why?

[T3]

this is ridiculous
if this isn't tvt i'll eat this delicious brownie
does scum go this hard over mechanics

People tend to write off shitfights like this as tvt
in practice they are actually slightly >rand t/s

I guess I should've said that it wasnt just the back and forth, but the vibes of it plus the fact it's all over the place
interesting tho

i think also it depends on the players

Fair.
I recently played a game where my scumpartner got into a fight with a townie that took up like half of the day and everyone wrote it off as tvt.

[T3]

Whatever happens, we shouldn’t eliminate redtea. By nature of their actual role, unless they and the informed townie are scum together, then they’re essentially confirmed town unless they get shot by the real vigilante overnight, no? I feel like anyone trying to push for them to die because of their ‘lack of utility’ just wants to see a townie die to begin with, and strikes me as incredibly suspicious. Not to mention that redtea doesn’t even have to shoot until we’re sure we’ve bagged a mafia.

VOTE: Three

Your insistence on killing off someone who claimed a PR comes off as weird to me. Maybe the mafia has two power roles and you’re afraid of getting shot at night.

This also comes across as really forced but I kind of agree with what you're saying.

[T3]

Mod WIFOM.

[T3]

If we don’t believe the claim, then let the real vigilante shoot redtea at night. If redtea is still alive, that means that they’re a confirmed townie or we just found two scum covering for each other.

Or... and I'm just spitballing here... there may be no vig...

If there’s no vigilante, why would the traitor be bulletproof? Wouldn’t that mean cool cookie and redtea are both lying about the claim?

Unless you’re saying that it’s so mafia can’t actually kill the traitor, in which case what you’re saying is possible. I still don’t think Three’s posts are from someone who’s town-aligned.

oops
I was trying to quote this.

[T3]

I think that post comes off as really insistent on ending the day early and voting out someone who claimed a PR before they have the chance to actually prove themselves. Beyond that you’ve really just been posting one-liners and arguing semantics with House.

are you seriously trying to argue that one-liners are scummy
if that were true then i would be the most limbait player ever
VOTE: fua

[T3]

I hate dwlee's posts but I also always hate his posts

[T3]

like
gut
they feel really forced a lot

[T3]

Actually forced is the wrong word
the way you approach the game I always find myself scumreading

[T3]

Well anyway why is fua a better vote than three here?

Because fua is literally arguing that one-liners are scummy and fua is misrepping the Three/House interaction.

[T3]

Whatever happens, we shouldn’t eliminate redtea. By nature of their actual role, unless they and the informed townie are scum together, then they’re essentially confirmed town unless they get shot by the real vigilante overnight, no? I feel like anyone trying to push for them to die because of their ‘lack of utility’ just wants to see a townie die to begin with, and strikes me as incredibly suspicious. Not to mention that redtea doesn’t even have to shoot until we’re sure we’ve bagged a mafia.

VOTE: Three

Your insistence on killing off someone who claimed a PR comes off as weird to me. Maybe the mafia has two power roles and you’re afraid of getting shot at night.

The last part of this post.

[T3]

Whatever happens, we shouldn’t eliminate redtea. By nature of their actual role, unless they and the informed townie are scum together, then they’re essentially confirmed town unless they get shot by the real vigilante overnight, no? I feel like anyone trying to push for them to die because of their ‘lack of utility’ just wants to see a townie die to begin with, and strikes me as incredibly suspicious. Not to mention that redtea doesn’t even have to shoot until we’re sure we’ve bagged a mafia.

VOTE: Three

Your insistence on killing off someone who claimed a PR comes off as weird to me. Maybe the mafia has two power roles and you’re afraid of getting shot at night.

This also comes across as really forced but I kind of agree with what you're saying.

I don't understand how these 2 statements can coexist in the same post about the same content.

Please explain.

Kind of
As in the first part makes sense
The second part is a misrep
The post itself has a weird tone

[T3]

i'm ambivalent about the claim. an outted traitor doesn't serve much purpose for mafia, so there isn't anything we particularly lose by giving redtea a night to prove the claim. gut is i don't buy it though

Eghhhh
I kind of see where jacket is coming from with fua obv scum though

How so?

Fua's vote on george gut pinged me as really terrible.

I see.

VOTE: Fua

uh....
Why?

I don't get this.

Between Jacket and you casing Fua, why are you confused about the vote?

This doesn't seem genuine.

Three sheeping a gut a read of mine seemed strange.

[T3]

this is ridiculous
if this isn't tvt i'll eat this delicious brownie
does scum go this hard over mechanics

People tend to write off shitfights like this as tvt
in practice they are actually slightly >rand t/s

I guess I should've said that it wasnt just the back and forth, but the vibes of it plus the fact it's all over the place
interesting tho

i think also it depends on the players

Fair.
I recently played a game where my scumpartner got into a fight with a townie that took up like half of the day and everyone wrote it off as tvt.

Do because of one instance of "shitfighting" being TvS, you consider it to be >rand TvS when it happens?

Ehhhh.

Multiple
Can't say why though.

[T3]

i sort of struggle to believe fua-scum would protect redtea-traitor like this though...

StD/T3: is this a dumbtell?

Probably slightly town indicative.

[T3]

I hate dwlee's posts but I also always hate his posts

t3 I will policy you wtf

This reads as kinda partnery. dwlee is shading T3, but simultaneously discrediting the shade by calling it policy.

If one flips red, I'm going to want the other one dead.

This is shallow as fuck

T3 is in like 80% of my games, of course I'm going to be friendly with him

This seems slightly town

[T3]

STD IS TOWN

[T3]

what is your meta read on me anyway

I'll never tell

[T3]

468 i was trying to quote both posts 470 was talking about 469

[T3]

I'm not, but I also don't think I'm seasoned enough to think of a fakeclaim like that without help from a partner.

Okay. I buy it.

This seems slightly more likely to come from town than scum.

[T3]

I feel like scum would have questioned it more + gut

[T3]

Also I looked at Dwlee's ISO and saw he was playing exactly to his scum meta and got really hyped up but then I remembered that when Dwlee replaces in his meta will usually give a false negative so now I have a to read him by traditional means
which is blegh

[T3]

T3 your one attempt at meta on me was doing this same exact wishy washy thing where you shade me and then do a ~idk~ at the end and you were scum

Good thing I don't believe in meta

This is a legit mta tell.

[T3]

The tell worked across I think all 9 towngames and 3 scumgames where you didn't replace in.

[T3]

But when I replace in I'm scummy? lmao

I hate this so much cause I'm gonna have to try to figure out what it is so I don't end up accidentally trust telling against you

When you replace in you will almost always be scum by the tell, yes.

[T3]

okay okay
House
I interpreted your original post as saying, "if scum is eliminated during the day, and there is only one kill during the following night, that means redtea was fakeclaiming."
What I'm asking is, how does that work? How would I, as a town complex vigilante, be able to prove myself. I have like no idea what you're talking about. I can be town and miss. Are you saying if I miss in that scenario, I should be limmed just in case or what?

Also I looked at Dwlee's ISO and saw he was playing exactly to his scum meta and got really hyped up but then I remembered that when Dwlee replaces in his meta will usually give a false negative so now I have a to read him by traditional means
which is blegh

tbh i was feeling a teeny tiny bit guilty for recognizing the scum meta and not acting on it bc 1) i wanted to play with them longer and 2) i thought i would try giving people a chance first and 3) mostly 1).

good to know i dont have to anymore tho if thats the case
/inb4 this gets me scumread

I don't think we have ever played together where I'm scum?

no but i meta'd you in the most recent game we played and that ended up with me locktowning you

DWLEE HAS META CONFIRMED
wait but how do you know the tell i have is the tell you have?

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

[T3]

We should

not

lim redtea today. If what cookie is saying is true, which it likely is then there is probably some kind of vig. If redtea is scum then redtea gets shot. Yay town. If redtea doesn't get shot then we might have a problem, in which case we could lim redtea.

Either way, we gain nothing from limming redtea today. However, statistically we have a chance to get a free redtea scumflip if we leave them alive for tonight.

[T3]

meh
As in I wouldn't cry if her died but I don't want to lim him today

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

so this game exists,

Vote fua

VOTE: fua

anyway, what do you think of
VOTE: Dwlee99

(still in the process of properly catching up and stuff)

Meant to quote this

[T3]

WHAT IS THIS BUG

[T3]

;-------------;
My internet cut out as I was pressing submit
This has happened a few times

[T3]

@t3 pm me after the game and we can compare notes if you want

I'm going to go back and comb through this game later today, because even if not a lot has happened, I need to find some actual direction

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-rubb ... 789692.gif

[T3]

WHAT IS THIS BUG

Have you tried not pressing submit twenty times?

I pressed it once -_-

[T3]

This even happened to me once when editing wikipedia
it resulted in me being banned for 'vandalism'
okay moving on

[T3]

Almost50 replaces Wake88

Vote Count 1.05

TheZenMan (0):

Wake88 (0):

House (0):

Save The Dragons (0):

Three (4):

GeorgeBailey, Dwlee99, fua, House

T3 (0):

GeorgeBailey (0):

fua (4):

Jacket, Three, T3, Save The Dragons

Jacket (0):

Dwlee99 (2):

redtea, HawaiianPizza

cool cookie (0):

redtea (1):

cool cookie

HawaiianPizza (0):

Not Voting (2):

TheZenMan, Wake88

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MONKE

[T3]

do the people that found oster scummy have opinions about dwlee

I voted Osetr because I didn't like them and because they would be a liability in ELo.

Dwlee so far is not that but also not much else either.

Fair take on Osetr, tbh.

I like playing with dwlee. I hope he's not scum this game.

don't tell him that was actually a pretty terrible take on osetr.

speaking of whom, it's tough to read him off of what was basically a meme phase. he seemed fine at first, there are a few okay posts from him, but i thought he was slightly wolfy for trying to appear like he doesn't give a shit about his wagon.

i shrugged it off and let him do his thing. except he's gone now. fantastic.
also i keep losing confidence in all this.

moving on.

This post seems slightly towny but I'm not sure why.

[T3]

Although if you’re going to actually vote me out, you should at least let me claim before the hammer.

i-......
Wow this is scum.

[T3]

yeah get your votes off of three already
i might get on the fua wagon if we really did catch scum tripping but I'll wait for them to come back round first

pedit speak of the devil

k

VOTE: Save The Dragons

STD IS TOWN

[T3]

So... rereading cookie, and I have concerns.

I'm going to claim. I'm an Informed Townie. I know there is a Bulletproof Mafia Traitor in the game. I think the quotes below are Redtea signalling to the rest of the mafia that they are said traitor, partly given it was a really weird out-on-a-limb connection to make in the context of the discussion to that point, and partly because there are very few reasons to make such an effort to hint that you are mafia-aligned, other than being the mafia traitor.

(Translator's Note: gay means mafia-aligned)

im gay

VOTE: redtea

I could be wrong, but there's nothing really lost by me claiming anyway as that's my only power.

1) Why would the mod give info not only about the existence of a traitor, but the fact they're bulletproof? What town utility comes from outing the fact the traitor is bulletproof?

cookie could have left the bulletproof bit out of his claim and let mafia sweat hitting their traitor at night, or think they're traitor was being protected if they did shoot them.

Mentioning the bulletproof bit could have easily been a message from traitor!cookie to his team.

i got some reads but will see if i am alive tomorrow to share them

Why would town hold off on posting reads after leading a wagon on what they felt was a solid chance at flipping red, knowing that it's probably their only chance to do so if scum flips?

Vc coming, redtea is currently e-1

I don't think cookie was worried about dying at all overnight.

VOTE: cool cookie

I could totally see mafia being informed of that info, but the fact that cookie claimed it unprovoked is very strongly town indicative.

[T3]

what is "gated"?

Specifically, a Complex Vig can only shoot PR's. Their shot will fail* if they target a vanilla player (goon is considered vanilla scum).

Fix't

oh, i see

at first, i thought the traitor was just a bulletproof based on cookie's claim
then... about 490 (second quote)
this means the traitor has an ability, which is restricted like that?

not quite sure on redtea's claim now.

unsure why this "informed townie" would be a role in the game, haven't seen anything like that before.
but i still buy the claim and feel like we're overthinking it.

The informed modifier is very common.

[T3]

It's possible, as Mafia typically don't know who the traitor is and vice versa, but I'm not as sold on red tea being scum anymore.

Just realized this might be a town slip. Or at least a not traitor slip because traitor does know who mafia in normals

cookie did exactly that but you didn't point that out?

[T3]

NVM cookie didn't I misremembered

[T3]

Although if you’re going to actually vote me out, you should at least let me claim before the hammer.

i-......
Wow this is scum.

Why?

Pointing out the EXTREMELY obvious as a means to fake content
I think.

[T3]

NVM cookie didn't I misremembered

What did cookie do that you thought was similar?

They said something about mafias defending traitors

[T3]

Mech talk bores me because scum and town can do it equally well so it's harder to get a read on it

Pointing out the EXTREMELY obvious as a means to fake content

Like a weirdpost
But a scum weirdpost not a town one.

[T3]

T3 thinks I'm town for some reason tho so good luck with that

meta

[T3]

Mech talk bores me because scum and town can do it equally well so it's harder to get a read on it

Pointing out the EXTREMELY obvious as a means to fake content

Like a weirdpost
But a scum weirdpost not a town one.

It's sad that a stranger has a better grasp of me than you, T3.

I'm talking about fua's post.

[T3]

Although if you’re going to actually vote me out, you should at least let me claim before the hammer.

i-......
Wow this is scum.

Seems more like you're trying to force a point of an entirely neutral statement being scummy.

I kinda misworded.

[T3]

Mech talk bores me because scum and town can do it equally well so it's harder to get a read on it

Pointing out the EXTREMELY obvious as a means to fake content

Like a weirdpost
But a scum weirdpost not a town one.

It's sad that a stranger has a better grasp of me than you, T3.

I'm talking about fua's post.

Does scum!fua blatantly barter a ceasefire with Three?

C'mon, man. That reachout was town af.

I genuinely did not notice that.
who in my poe do i vote next

[T3]

VOTE: Almost50
A50 no post = ???

VOTE: Dwlee
dude

[T3]

If we're calling a truce then I need a new target, and I don't want to vote cookie. We've got three people who basically aren't playing, and the game state doesn't feel like it's had much scum influence, so I think we'd have a good chance hitting scum there. Between George/Zen/A50, I feel least good about George due to their awkward RVS posts. Zen's posts are whatever, and Wake/A50 never posted so I have nothing there. Maybe Wake dropped because they didn't want to play scum?

Otherwise, as far as our active posters go, any that are scum are likely just playing very safe/muted. Assuming the treaty with Fua is pure, I think cookie and redtea are telling the truth and are town. I feel good about House and Dwlee as well.

Which leaves Jacket/STD/T3/Pizza for basically my null reads. T3 is insistent STD is town though, so I could believe it if he gave a compelling enough reason.

For now I'm fine with voting George.

VOTE: George

PE: I could do a Jacket vote as well.

oh that guy exists

[T3]

good question

Town response

[T3]

who in my poe do i vote next

I think you should OMGUS.

VOTE: Jacket

His ISO is a nothing-burger, and I don't like his push on one of our only players who are actually up in here trying to solve.

You think T3 is legitimately trying to solve? Because it looks to me like he's just spewing a lot of nonsense. The post I quoted of his was a huge reach and looked like scum trying to bury a townie.

And if you think my posting is a "nothing-burger", you're not paying attention. Just because I'm not incessantly spamming doesn't mean I have nothing to say.

My reads are always genuine, even if I'm scum. You can look at my past games to see.
So this reason is bs

[T3]

I could see ZenMan as scum who couldn't figure out what to post and flaked. That's just a guess, though.

does that even actually happen

[T3]

okay so after some proper reading, I understood wtf house and fua were going on about

Dwlee #615
I mean the "there is a mafia traitor" IS the signal to scum, and revealing the bulletproof part could be beneficial to reveal. It's like saying "hey, I'm here, don't worry about nk'ing me I'll be safe." Which I think is what fua is hinting at here: #623

also

ah yeah, that reminds me, the traitor is NK immune + gated (no specifics given beyond that). forgot to say that as i didn't really think it mattered, but perhaps it would be helpful when the traitor was trying to fashion a fakeclaim to also gate themselves.

It's just so strange to me that the mod would say that there is a restriction to the bulletproof ability, but not say what that restriction is. Why the alignment and role but not the modifier- though that a modifier exists is mentioned. Is that common?

I didn't notice cookie say that the traitor is gated.
Two possibilities: The traitor has a role that is gated or the traitor is x-shot bulletproof.

[T3]

like 95% of the time an unprovoked fakeclaim, details about role pm, or soft will come from town

My Role PM was in English. Does that count?

It was in monkey-speak

[T3]

Also, here's a BIG FAVOUR I ask of you all: I am not going to take down notes and stuff, so you should collectively try to remind me why I TR'd/SR'd someone. Help an old guy, will you all?

A50 posting this much is probably town indicative.

[T3]

In fact, why not NOW:

I am a Town BP Neighbour. At first, I though being a Neighbour was to make me a Miller to a TA/PT Cop (as is the fad), but with that claim it makes more sense for me to be the Miller for the Complex Vig. I mean, without the Neighborhood I could just claim VT if redtea claims to have shot me. However, if I do get shot in this case; my Neighbour will out me as their Neighbour and thus a PR who should have been dead.

@Dwlee: happy now?? Now Scum won't try to shoot me on N1 (or any other night). THAT IS WHY I don't feel the need to out everything I know upon "someone's request".

This is real. Trust me.

[T3]

So, obviously my theory about Dwlee being Traitor with T3, George & STD has hit a brick wall.

Current read list (as of page 17):

Almost50, replaced Wake88 (BP NEighbour)
cool cookie (Informed)
redtea (Complex Vig)


House
T3
fua


TheZenMan*
Save The Dragons
GeorgeBailey*
Dwlee99, replaced Osetr
HawaiianPizza


Three
Jacket


Note that names within the same category are NOT following a particular order (maybe the ones in the NULL are, because that's where I started from, so they are in the order the mod lisyed them on P0)

The are

never

4 scum in a mini normal.

[T3]

Should note that regardless of what T3 says, Save The Dragons feels very underwhelming.

Yes, he is underwhelming.
Underwhelming =/= scum.

[T3]

STD IS TOWN

Ya think? Enlighten me

Meta

[T3]

VOTE: Almost50
A50 no post = ???

VOTE: Dwlee
dude

Hello?

UNVOTE: dwlee
hi
I voted you because bad reasons
I unvoted you because you voted someone else

[T3]

Time zones and what not but it was 5pm my time when he replaced in so

a50 lives in eggypt

[T3]

Time zones and what not but it was 5pm my time when he replaced in so

also let's not lim bogdan

[T3]

Catching up

[T3]

STD IS TOWN

Ya think? Enlighten me

Meta

What parts of his meta explain his alignment here? Does scum StD not act this way?

Scum std doesn’t act this way.

[T3]

Who are you neighbors with?

Why do you want to know?

I thought the answer was relatively obvious to begin with based on the context given.

Maybe

[T3]

or something i don't do.

hmm.

Something you don’t do.

[T3]

I wish Koba was here cause they could tell me if I should step back from this push

Normally I’d townread something like this but I get kind of a weird vibe.

[T3]

just showed up, ignored my detailed posts explaining why im unlikely to be a premium elim today, and voted me coz i had the most votes. yeah i'm salty, but also that is objectively gross.

Honestly I’m also subconsciously ignoring you.

[T3]

I don’t know how you play the game.

That is how he plays the game.

[T3]

could always vote georgebailey

I’d rather not vote bogdan because there are scummier people.

[T3]

could always vote georgebailey

I’d rather not vote bogdan because there are scummier people.

like whom

sweater

[T3]

who the balls is that

also maybe two and wall-e

[T3]

just showed up, ignored my detailed posts explaining why im unlikely to be a premium elim today, and voted me coz i had the most votes. yeah i'm salty, but also that is objectively gross.

Honestly I’m also subconsciously ignoring you.

what?

No avatar.

[T3]

i assume two is three but i have no idea who wall-e is

jacket and dwlee

[T3]

I forgot.
VOTE: jacket

[T3]

Yes, because I think they're neighbors.

what if we're masons

[T3]

Alright. If we can’t settle on a vote, I guess I’m down for a consensus GeorgeBailey lim.

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

Stop lurking and start contributing or get out of the limpool.

I would also be fine with Three.

[T3]

I scumread jacket for a few individual posts but I don't have a big case.

[T3]

so anyway, not in danger of a quickhammer anymore unless i'm blind VOTE: Three
do we have to reach a majority for lunch or is plurality enabled

also dislike cookie/george wagons, i think

VOTE: three
sure lol

[T3]

i wouldn't be surprised if the "treaty" between three and fua is w/w honestly.
they'd be towards the bottom of my list, so maybe i'm biased but... that whole thing seemed off to me. especially from three's side.

there's a neighbour claim?

Almost50 claimed Bulletproof Neighbor.

[T3]

I don't know if what zen is doing is particularly scummy considering he comes from another site where the play could be different.

[T3]

i wouldn't be surprised if the "treaty" between three and fua is w/w honestly.
they'd be towards the bottom of my list, so maybe i'm biased but... that whole thing seemed off to me. especially from three's side.

there's a neighbour claim?

Almost50 claimed Bulletproof Neighbor.

huh why did they claim that
w/e i guess, i'm generally not down to yeet PR claims on D1?

oh yeah also I don't think the fua/three thing is even s/s.

[T3]

pineapple on pizza ruins the texture

[T3]

Also hawaiian pizza was made by a greek chef in canada who was inspired by chinese food

[T3]

pineapple on pizza ruins the texture

VOTE: T3
how dare you. also explain on fua/three. .

I don't think scum would be so blatant about something like that.

[T3]

I don't know what that puts me at, but I assume we're wagoning me despite there being no legitimate case at this point. Real fun wasting my week on this game just to get miseliminated but whatever.

I'm VT.

alas that's often the way in mafia - the games where you put most effort in are the ones you get limmed early. that said, maybe a slightly premature claim at like 4 votes with emotional appeal to boot.

Yeah yeah AtE whatever, getting annoyed at getting eliminated Day 1 when you effort is NAI either way. I genuinely thought I was closer than E-3 though since last I checked I had three votes and I thought I saw three more come my way.

I would offer to just get shot by redtea to prove I'm VT, but I understand it could just mean I'm the BP Traitor, and even though I think redtea is telling the truth I understand that not everyone believes them either.

I both like and hate this reaction.

[T3]

Feels like both George and Cool are going after me for the simple reason that I went after them. That's not really a good reason in my mind, and I can't really find either of them making a good case on me.

I also don't like this post on a vibes level.

[T3]

Feels like both George and Cool are going after me for the simple reason that I went after them. That's not really a good reason in my mind, and I can't really find either of them making a good case on me.

I'm not going voting you because you're scum reading me, it's why and how you scum read me. You voted Cookie with little explanation and then wrote an activity case on me. Why do you even scumread Cookie right now?

It also felt like a pretty blatant misrep.

Now that Cool Cookie's wagon is stagnating, you're pushing me.

VOTE: zen
baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[T3]

@T3:

Are you ever going to explain your meta reads? Because at some point or another you're going to get accused of TMI if you don't.

No

[T3]

I don't know what that puts me at, but I assume we're wagoning me despite there being no legitimate case at this point. Real fun wasting my week on this game just to get miseliminated but whatever.

I'm VT.

alas that's often the way in mafia - the games where you put most effort in are the ones you get limmed early. that said, maybe a slightly premature claim at like 4 votes with emotional appeal to boot.

Yeah yeah AtE whatever, getting annoyed at getting eliminated Day 1 when you effort is NAI either way. I genuinely thought I was closer than E-3 though since last I checked I had three votes and I thought I saw three more come my way.

I would offer to just get shot by redtea to prove I'm VT, but I understand it could just mean I'm the BP Traitor, and even though I think redtea is telling the truth I understand that not everyone believes them either.

I both like and hate this reaction.

This is a zero calorie statement.

I like it because of the way the ate is executed I hate it because the ate was uncalled for.

[T3]

also where has dr. house gone to

[T3]

Stop

[T3]

@T3:

Are you ever going to explain your meta reads? Because at some point or another you're going to get accused of TMI if you don't.

No

VOTE: T3

Dude
What
Why is that scummy

[T3]

T3 your one attempt at meta on me was doing this same exact wishy washy thing where you shade me and then do a ~idk~ at the end and you were scum

Good thing I don't believe in meta

Would scum!t3 do the same exact thing to me twice in a row cause this is sort of meta but imo it's actually mostly a scum tell in and of itself. Being wishy washy and also it's easy to make up reasons to scumread someone or townread someone by just saying "blabla" meta.

I wasn’t saying you’re town or not town that was just an observation

[T3]

You know, the only reason I had any hesitation on T3 at all was because I thought you might be masons with him, seeing how aggressively you attacked me for calling him scum, made it seem like you had a super strong townread you never actually verbalized. But I guess that's off the table now.

How do you want me to respond to that vote from T3? He had jack shit for a case, no one listens to him because his posts are white noise, and I don't care what he thinks. I probably gave him more of a response than was warranted.

Unless it was a LONG time ago I'm not seeing an "aggressive push" from House in his iso.

You have a good point that t3 admittedly didn't even have a case, and was just sort of finding something to do. I don't think that really warrants much of a response @House.

I KNOW I DONT HAVE A CASE I NEVER SAID I HAVE A CASE

[T3]

Zen asked me earlier if he should claim and I said to wait. I considered the possibility T3 didn't deny it because he wanted to bait the NK (me being BP) or something. I do TR T3, so I didn't want to get in his way.

tfw no it’s not that

[T3]

VOTE: Beorge Gailey
I voted.
VOTE: Osetr
I also voted you.

Looking at this looks like a traitor crumb until I remember Osetr is me

Am I at e1
Of course

[T3]

ONLY E2

[T3]

Vote Count 1.09

TheZenMan (4):

GeorgeBailey, cool cookie, T3, fua

Almost50 (1):

Save The Dragons

House (0):

Save The Dragons (0):

Three (1):

HawaiianPizza

T3 (3):

Three, Jacket, redtea

GeorgeBailey (0):

fua (0):

Jacket (0):

Dwlee99 (0):

cool cookie (2):

Almost50, TheZenMan

redtea (0):

HawaiianPizza (0):

Not Voting (2):

House, Dwlee99

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Day 1 ends when an elimination is decided or in (expired on 2021-10-08 09:00:00).

Announcements

The end is nigh

Possums

17 hours
I hardclaim investigative
Unvote

[T3]

Zen asked me earlier if he should claim and I said to wait. I considered the possibility T3 didn't deny it because he wanted to bait the NK (me being BP) or something. I do TR T3, so I didn't want to get in his way.

tfw no it’s not that

What was it then? Why didn't you say you were not my Neighbor?

Has to do with my role
Reasons

[T3]

Please unvote

[T3]

@T3:

Are you ever going to explain your meta reads? Because at some point or another you're going to get accused of TMI if you don't.

No

VOTE: T3

Dude
What
Why is that scummy

You don't think it's scummy to read people based on meta but then not explain what the meta is? If you're scum it's just TMI that you already know who's town and who's scum. If you're town, we have no idea what you're thinking or how accurate your meta reads actually are.

With STD for instance, you say he's town because of meta. When asked if it's something he did, you answer it's because of something he didn't do. That means nothing to anyone who doesn't know what you're talking about and could easily just come from scum since you don't have to justify that read.

17 hours
I hardclaim investigative
Unvote

Sigh.

What investigative?

I don't want to elaborate because it only benefits scum
Please trust me

Scum me almost never ever fakes reads and when I do it's almost always obvious

[T3]

I wasn’t saying you’re town or not town that was just an observation

That's exactly what you did in MBOS

I thought I walked back on the meta in a later post, no?

[T3]

In MBOS I read everyone completely honestly and didn't fake anything to make it seem like I didn't have an agenda, then I realized that we were going to lose if we limmed my scumpartner so I had to walk back that read to not get him limmed, the following day I was forced to bus and then we lost 2 days later after my other scumbuddy was limmed.

[T3]

@T3:

Are you ever going to explain your meta reads? Because at some point or another you're going to get accused of TMI if you don't.

No

VOTE: T3

Dude
What
Why is that scummy

You don't think it's scummy to read people based on meta but then not explain what the meta is? If you're scum it's just TMI that you already know who's town and who's scum. If you're town, we have no idea what you're thinking or how accurate your meta reads actually are.

With STD for instance, you say he's town because of meta. When asked if it's something he did, you answer it's because of something he didn't do. That means nothing to anyone who doesn't know what you're talking about and could easily just come from scum since you don't have to justify that read.

17 hours
I hardclaim investigative
Unvote

Sigh.

What investigative?

I don't want to elaborate because it only benefits scum
Please trust me

Scum me almost never ever fakes reads and when I do it's almost always obvious

I'm not accusing you of faking reads, I'm accusing you of TMI.

It's hard to trust your claim because by all means, if you're town, you're most likely going to get night killed. With all the supposed Bulletproofs in the game it seems unlikely a protective role exists. So if you die tonight you'll flip and we learn your role anyway, or worse you potentially get role blocked and scum kills someone else to make you WIFOM bait.

Besides that, if we do trust you, who exactly do we vote? Because you were voting for me and I don't exactly want to get miseliminated.

Maybe Zen or jacket

[T3]

@T3: I dunno if you're Town or Scum, but delaying your full claim any further is scummy as hell. It gives the impression you're faking and afraid to specify lest you be CC'd. IF you're Towm you're dead already, unless you can convince a protective to be on you, and I doubt anyone will be convinced by "I'm an investigative"

Odd Night Traffic Analyst Even Night Neighbor Finder

[T3]

@T3:

Are you ever going to explain your meta reads? Because at some point or another you're going to get accused of TMI if you don't.

No

VOTE: T3

Dude
What
Why is that scummy

You don't think it's scummy to read people based on meta but then not explain what the meta is? If you're scum it's just TMI that you already know who's town and who's scum. If you're town, we have no idea what you're thinking or how accurate your meta reads actually are.

With STD for instance, you say he's town because of meta. When asked if it's something he did, you answer it's because of something he didn't do. That means nothing to anyone who doesn't know what you're talking about and could easily just come from scum since you don't have to justify that read.

17 hours
I hardclaim investigative
Unvote

Sigh.

What investigative?

I don't want to elaborate because it only benefits scum
Please trust me

Scum me almost never ever fakes reads and when I do it's almost always obvious

I'm not accusing you of faking reads, I'm accusing you of TMI.

It's hard to trust your claim because by all means, if you're town, you're most likely going to get night killed. With all the supposed Bulletproofs in the game it seems unlikely a protective role exists. So if you die tonight you'll flip and we learn your role anyway, or worse you potentially get role blocked and scum kills someone else to make you WIFOM bait.

Besides that, if we do trust you, who exactly do we vote? Because you were voting for me and I don't exactly want to get miseliminated.

Maybe Zen or jacket

Why?

Zen for the case on him outlined by cookie earlier (I didn't think it was too scummy at first though), but maybe not because he's neighbor
Jacket because of barely providing content and dumb tunnel on me and you.
Possibly George because of PoE.

[T3]

@T3: I dunno if you're Town or Scum, but delaying your full claim any further is scummy as hell. It gives the impression you're faking and afraid to specify lest you be CC'd. IF you're Towm you're dead already, unless you can convince a protective to be on you, and I doubt anyone will be convinced by "I'm an investigative"

Odd Night Traffic Analyst Even Night Neighbor Finder

On Odd Nights I can check if someone is able to communicate with someone else, then on Even Nights I can check to see if someone is a Neighbor.

This strongly implies that there is
1. a traitor
2. a neighbor
That's why I was very quick to believe cookie and A50's claims, + the fact that the tells exist.

[T3]

@T3: I dunno if you're Town or Scum, but delaying your full claim any further is scummy as hell. It gives the impression you're faking and afraid to specify lest you be CC'd. IF you're Towm you're dead already, unless you can convince a protective to be on you, and I doubt anyone will be convinced by "I'm an investigative"

Odd Night Traffic Analyst Even Night Neighbor Finder

On Odd Nights I can check if someone is able to communicate with someone else, then on Even Nights I can check to see if someone is a Neighbor.

This strongly implies that there is
1. a traitor
2. a neighbor
That's why I was very quick to believe cookie and A50's claims, + the fact that the tells exist.

That...is a very odd role. Why does town need to find Neighbors? Either way I don't see how this tips scum off. Also why does it imply there's a Traitor? I don't think Traitors communicate with scum unless there's some kind of recruitment mechanic in play. So they shouldn't have day or night talk unless they're a Neighbor, though A50 strongly believes Zen is town and A50 himself is a consensus town read.

Assuming the strategy here is to scum hunt odd nights and confirm Neighbors even nights, you'll most likely be blocked tonight and we'll be essentially powerless. There would be too many town PRs if others existed otherwise, unless we have some fake claims.

Should we organize what everyone is doing? I'd be fine with redtea shooting me two nights in a row to confirm I'm not the Bulletproof Traitor. T3 could also target me to confirm I don't have night talk. We could argue just this means scum shoots me to "waste" their night actions but uhhhh if scum want to kill a scum read VT they're more than free to do so. And if a role block happens, well we won't be in any worse of a situation.

Almost always when I've seen a Traffic Analyst there's been a Traitor in the game. Usually with a role such as traffic analyst there are false positives and false negatives.

[T3]

I originally assumed the neighbor finder part was there because if I got a positive result on a player I can then use my neighbor finder check to confirm that they are a neighbor, in which case it is likely a false positive (or at least probably not groupscum in a PT), or they are not neighbor, which means they are likely scum.

[T3]

For the record I think T3's role makes sense for scum. Especially if the neighbors are supposed to be valuable for town. But leaving him alive for a night is fine.

this shade tbh
VOTE: jacket

[T3]

UNVOTE:

I understand the town case for T3, or at least why he shouldn't be today's vote. I think his reads are weird and the lack of explanations for them are weirder, but fine.

T3 is adamant about STD being town.

A50 is a town read and is vouching for Zen.

Cookie and redtea are off the table today as well.

I have a truce with Fua and I think Dwlee is town.

This leaves George, Pizza, House, Jacket, and myself. I originally had House as town but I feel like he's faded ever since I claimed we were TvT.

What are we doing here?

My reads are unexplained.... like I get a gut reaction to a post when something feels off and it usually can be expressed in traditional mafia terms but idk what those are.

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VOTE: bogdan bye

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actually kill me

okay so scum games
29 posts/43 pages ~= .67 posts/page
17 posts/76 pages ~= .22 posts/page
town games
22 posts/62 pages ~= .35 posts/page
24 posts/19 pages ~= 1.26 posts/page

he has a quantity of posts in the upper range in some of his quick micros for some reason, and doesn't seem to be ai, so i left those out as outliers. also didn't include newbies or replace-outs.

anyway yes still lurking don't mean anything. Gun to head I think george might be more laid-back as town (i did include those quick micros in my skimming), like he is here, so. Yeah count me out. That's not even a good info lim

Lmao town for effort

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oh fuck me that wasn't a hammer was it

I have genuinely no idea

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Bogdan of Hum (died 1252), Serbian Prince of Hum (fl. –1249)
Bogdan II of Hum, Serbian Prince of Hum (fl. 1312)
Bogdan (magnate), a Macedonian magnate confused with Vratko Nemanjić as a hero of Serbian epic poetry.
Bogdan I of Moldavia, Voivode of Moldavia (r. 1359–1365), and the House of Bogdan-Muşat (Bogdania was an early name for the principality of Moldavia, named after Bogdan I)
Bogdan Kirizmić (fl. 1361–1371), Serbian financial manager in the service of Vukašin Mrnjavčević (fl. 1371)
Bogdan (fl. 1363), kaznac in the service of Emperor Uroš V
Bogdan (fl. 1407–1413), Serbian state financial manager under Despot Stefan Lazarević, merchant from Prizren and donator to Kalenić monastery
Bogdan (fl. 1407), Serbian logothete in the service of Despot Stefan
Bogdan, Serbian chancellor in the service of Despot Đurađ Branković (r. 1427–1456)
Bogdan II of Moldavia, Voivode of Moldavia (r. 1449–1451)
Bogdan (fl. 1469), Bulgarian nobleman from Nikopol
Bogdan III the One-Eyed, Voivode of Moldavia (r. 1504–1517)
Bohdan Khmelnytsky, Hetman of Ukraine (r. 1648–1657)
Bogdan Aldea, Romanian footballer
Bogdan Andone, Romanian footballer
Bogdan Apostu, Romanian footballer
Bogdan Baltazar, Romanian banker
Bogdan Bălan, Romanian rugby union player
Bogdan Bogdanović (architect), Serbian architect
Bogdan Bogdanović (basketball), Serbian basketball player
Bogdan Borusewicz, Polish politician
Bogdan Bucurică, Romanian footballer
Bogdan Buhuș, Romanian footballer
Bohdan Bułakowski, Polish race walker
Bogdan Cistean, Romanian footballer
Bogdan Ciufulescu, Romanian wrestler
Bogdan Cotolan, Romanian footballer
Bogdan Curta, Romanian folk singer
Mihai Bogdan Dobrescu, Romanian boxer
Bogdan Diklić, Serbian actor
Bogdan Filov, Bulgarian archaeologist and politician
Bogdan Gavrilović, Serbian mathematician
Bogdan Juratoni, Romanian footballer
Bogdan Lalić, Croatian chess Grandmaster
Bohdan Lepky, Ukrainian writer
Bogdan Lobonţ, Romanian footballer
Bogdan Mandić, Croat Roman Catholic priest
Bogdan Maglich, American physicist
Bogdan Musiał, Polish-German historian
Bogdan Niculescu-Duvăz, Romanian politician
Bogdan Olteanu, Romanian politician
Bogdan Pătrașcu, Romanian footballer
Bogdan Petriceicu Hasdeu, Romanian historian, philologist and politician
Bogdan Planić, Serbian footballer
Bohdan Pomahač, Czech plastic surgeon
Bogdan Raczynski, Polish electronic musician
Bogdan Stelea, Romanian footballer
Bogdan Stoica, Romanian kickboxer
Bogdan Tanjević, Montenegrin basketball coach
Bogdan Tirnanić, Serbian journalist and essayists
Bogdan Ilić, Serbian YouTuber, rapper, gamer and entertainer
Bohdan Tůma, Czech actor and voice actor
Bohdan Sláma, Czech director
Bohdan Stupka, Ukrainian actor
Bohdan Ulihrach, Czech tennis player
Bohdan Warchal, Slovak violinist and dirigent
Bogdan Zimonjić, Serbian priest and military commander

Are all the notable people named bogdan. Notice that none of these people are named George Bailey.

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UNVOTE: george
Oh k

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Okay who would have fallen for that

No way… did I miss something?

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The only reason I can see to kill fua is it scum was afraid of their reads.

This ignores the NK bait they did

Really? Where?