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Post Post #1085 (isolation #200) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:37 am

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In post 1080, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1077, Frozen Angel wrote:Why would you even ask such a question about that slot? Your read on the slot is so shallow on the surface and you literally never said anything about agreeing with my read on nero so how you go from "let's pressure the umalut slot so he can make content" to "do you see him scum with nero?"
funny, you never answered the question, I find that weird. You just chastized me for asking..

I dont care about your read on Nero, wouldn't it be implied I agreed if I asked you about them being a team. chill the ego a bit there.. I realize you feel you're driving the game right now,but chill..
Cause there is no answer to it

I don't scum read Umalaut if that's your question but there is the possibility for him to be scum with nero as much as there is possibility for him to not be.

Your question makes literally no sense.
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #201) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:42 am

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I'm playing the game and am hunting scum. Spending my time - by literal meaning here digging things out and pointing them out in as much as a comprehensive manner I can share my thoughts.

You are being rude to me for disregarding whatever I said like this. I'm taking my time respecting you all to explain myself over and over as questions come my way. The least you can do is to read or to engage in your own way with me about it. If you don't like my attitude for solving the game, that's literally your own problem.
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Post Post #1093 (isolation #202) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:46 am

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In post 1088, Scorpious wrote:What am I missing???

Why is everyone being so ok with this slot(Umlaut) doing nothing? I swear if it gets to the point where people want to lim it,I'm looking at everyone that questioned me for bringing it up.

This is literally the fist time I've seen a lot get so much leeway 7 days into a game with 8 posts.
what is different with umalut for you with how you interpreted eye wagon earlier in this game?

Umalut catch up posts are not really the best way to sort that slot as he was really commenting on past posts and many already had developed reads so he could follow thought processes and generate reads as he was progressing (that's what catch up posts are in general worst posts you can make a read of behavioral wise) but I liked how he questioned andante for his nero read in live interaction there.

There isn't any data to sort the slot and by every definition you pushing it is like pushing a low hanging fruit when others are being massively discussed.

so how is that different from your stance with eye votes before in same day phase?
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Post Post #1097 (isolation #203) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:50 am

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In post 1041, Umlaut wrote:Saw Scorpious getting on my case for being inactive yesterday. If only I had said in advance that I would be busy that day with RL things.
In post 788, Umlaut wrote:Haven't done more catchup and probably won't have time to do more today since I'm at work (and then doing Valentine's Day stuff)
Oh yeah, I did. Fuck off.

I am still busy but will try and make more time for this game today, at least this evening (CST). Doesn't look like Andante ever answered my question about why Nero is town.
He said fuck off to you way after you voted the slot. and he said it as he was reminding you he was away for valentine's day

Where did you point it out as a reason to scum read the slot and how did you get that read before he says fuck off to you? I mean what gave you the general impression that he is not creating content = he is scum = so I vote him in first place?
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Post Post #1101 (isolation #204) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:53 am

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wait eye ever said he scumreads umalut?

or what is that you agreed with him there actually? his latest posts was about dwlee there
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Post Post #1104 (isolation #205) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:55 am

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In post 1102, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1100, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1088, Scorpious wrote:What am I missing???

Why is everyone being so ok with this slot(Umlaut) doing nothing? I swear if it gets to the point where people want to lim it,I'm looking at everyone that questioned me for bringing it up.

This is literally the fist time I've seen a lot get so much leeway 7 days into a game with 8 posts.
because he replaced in 2 days ago? why are you acting like he's been doing nothing forever? there's people who have posted almost no content in that time frame
2 days.. with just enough to not get prodded..
and that makes him your strongest scum read, because?

not that it's true. He actually posted stuff you can comment on, even participated tiny bit in live interaction there with me/nero alongside his catch up posts.

why didn't engage with him with what he already posted?
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #206) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:57 am

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In post 751, Eyes without a face wrote:Umlaut had yet to post anything meaningful at the time you asked this so I'm going to take a little break to catch up and come back to you about the slot.
This is the only thing I can find about eye about umalut

literally what are you talking about
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Post Post #1110 (isolation #207) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:04 am

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In post 1106, Scorpious wrote:he caught up to page 15... c'mon now.. then asked some meaningless question then got all pissed when i called him out..

So town... yes. I think the slot is scum hiding or lurking or whatever you wanna call it. Hence the vote.
yeah so him catching up only to page 15 is made by scum him and can't be from town him in your opinion

I'm just asking why you think that?

pedit: I said before whats my stance on the slot. I liked 788 and 791, picking those posts to comment on from all the noise that was happening there and the live interaction was just suggesting he is actually thinking about the current arguments even though he is not cought up. Thats only thing I saw from him that worth a + comment. I liked his catch up posts too and don't find the progress of his mindset inconsistent in any of them. Which puts him toward town leans and certainly not a suspect. But not a townread I could sell you for sure

why if its not a town read you can sell to others means its a lazy scum? that's quite a jump from top and bottom of the read list
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Post Post #1111 (isolation #208) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:09 am

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In post 1109, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1107, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 751, Eyes without a face wrote:Umlaut had yet to post anything meaningful at the time you asked this so I'm going to take a little break to catch up and come back to you about the slot.
This is the only thing I can find about eye about umalut

literally what are you talking about
i never said Eye called him out . Eye had a therory of reps being scum, and I called him out for it,now I think he might be right.
dude that theory is trash statistically and logically.

even eye himself claimed he said that to reaction test.

like why would you even mention that and ship that to even vote a replace in for that! It's absurd coming from any town, especially you who looked way more logical with their earlier analysis. discussing why someone is replaced out is pure wifom and I can't believe you really have the theory as one of your reasons for this vote!
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Post Post #1112 (isolation #209) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:12 am

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even eye never used it to vote for anyone! he used it to make analysis about how people reacted to that theory and started suspecting dwlee that way.

You're outright saying cause the slot replaced in game and didn't finish his catch up in 2 days he is scum?
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #210) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:28 am

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In post 1117, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1113, Andante wrote:even eye himself claimed he said that to reaction test.
I must have missed this.. I wonder why...

but really, i had no idea he ever said it was a reaction test
In post 558, Eyes without a face wrote:Dwlee's reaction was by far the worst. 4Yours was weird and tilted I can't decide for sure but I think it's a personal trait. Nero's was the best and Stephen didn't address it I don't think
In post 560, Eyes without a face wrote:
In post 559, Frozen Angel wrote:what about greetings, Hockey's and fires takes on it

can you elaborate on why you think Nero's reaction was the best and dwlee's was worse?
Greeting, Hockey and fire are not even replacements so the intended pressure wasn't directed at them. Nero's reaction was good because he acknowledged the existence of a=such a theory even if he personally didn't believe in it. Dwlee was bad because they voted me without trying to engage or discuss the theory at all. It looked like a reason they used to place a vote on someone they thought might be an easy lim
but then he made a 180 switch on his nero read as I started to call him out and he never voted dwlee or nero so I suspect eye that this whole thing was fake

But for you to actually use the theory to vote on someone for low content after you spent a lot of posts arguing over why you don't like the wagon on eye as he is the LHF just doesn't feel consistent at all
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Post Post #1183 (isolation #211) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:26 am

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andante joining the wagon is actually pinging the hell out of me but I still want nero flipped more than ever.

fire did you even read all the responses I wrote you? what is "inconsistent" in it that you're shading again?
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #212) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:31 am

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In post 1185, Andante wrote:
In post 1183, Frozen Angel wrote:andante joining the wagon is actually pinging the hell out of me
sorry for trusting in your read...
why do you apologize if you trust it truly?

You literally said you are sure you have nero as town when I started casing him and literally avoided explaining why when directly questioned about it

If nero is red, adante was the scum busying when saw the wagon got traction and by any chance if he doesn't flip red, you had the most opportunistic vote on the wagon

pedit: wtf is going on in this game
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #213) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:33 am

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Can we just eliminate all three andante nero and scorp in one day?

Cause I'm literally losing my mind looking at these latest posts

pedit: UNVOTE:

no you won't hammer him till I know what the hell is going on right now
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Post Post #1209 (isolation #214) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:35 am

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@Andante

what changed your read on my slot? You didn't trust me before. explain why you got from "I have nero as a town read and don't know what FA is" to "I'm sheeping FA on this read to vote nero"
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Post Post #1212 (isolation #215) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:35 am

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In post 1205, Stephen A Smith wrote:ok how sure are you that nero is scum again
Like 200% but I want to know what the hell are adante and scorp doing on his wagon right now
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Post Post #1215 (isolation #216) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:36 am

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In post 1211, Andante wrote:
In post 1205, Stephen A Smith wrote:ok how sure are you that nero is scum again
I'm fairly certain nero isn't scum... not gonna lie there
What the hell
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Post Post #1222 (isolation #217) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:37 am

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In post 1213, Scorpious wrote:omfg,

are you serious FA?
What the hell do you think about what andante just did? and why did you vote nero after pages of arguing how you don't see what I see about nero right after adante voted him and took back her vote?
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #218) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:43 am

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Adante - This looked like the easiest bus in history by jumping on that wagon right before she couldn't without hammering without giving a fuck about who it is on and by making that switch

and she literally admitted to doing the switch for no reason while still claiming she is town reading nero

Am I losing my mind or is this really happening
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Post Post #1235 (isolation #219) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:45 am

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In post 1234, Andante wrote:me: outs a tr on nero post 700

Frozen: HOW DARE YOU VOTE NERO WHILE STILL TRING NERO!!! - post 1200
so you don't town read Nero anymore?
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #220) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:46 am

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Its a yes or no how hard is that
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #221) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:48 am

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In post 1234, Andante wrote:me: outs a tr on nero post 700

Frozen: HOW DARE YOU VOTE NERO WHILE STILL TRING NERO!!! - post 1200
Do you town read him or not?
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Post Post #1242 (isolation #222) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:49 am

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Then why did you post 1234?

when I was right about you're still town reading him?
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Post Post #1243 (isolation #223) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:50 am

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You said that post about how you said you town read him in post 700 like me saying in post-1200 you're read is not changed is meaningful somehow?
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Post Post #1247 (isolation #224) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:55 am

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I'm telling you right now its andante and nero as her partner, she first claimed the nonsense town read on and then backtracked on.

VOTE: Nero
VOTE: Andante

I literally want to vote these two slots equally right now and both will flip red

pedit: good point with what omfg

why did you make post 1234 if your read on the slot is not changed?!!! you literally was just trying to come back at me for calling you out on live interaction
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Post Post #1251 (isolation #225) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:57 am

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Like fuck it, lets assume you litteraly wanted to sheep stephen or me or whoever about nero

Why would you post 1234 if your read on nero never changed
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #226) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:58 am

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In post 1253, Andante wrote:
In post 1251, Frozen Angel wrote:Like fuck it, lets assume you litteraly wanted to sheep stephen or me or whoever about nero

Why would you post 1234 if your read on nero never changed
cause idk what my thoughts are this game...
what the fuck
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #227) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:01 am

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VOTE: Nero

please don't allow adante to live long in this game

I want nero flipped more

He is back on e-1 again
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Post Post #1265 (isolation #228) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:02 am

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In post 1260, fireisredsir wrote:while reading normal game 2257 (conveniently has a lot of this player list in it), i learned that andante does really weird and impulsive things as town. check out the end of day 1 there if you want to see. the level of inconsistency in her understanding of her own reads here feels past that, though
can she not fake that as mafia?

It's not about her doing weird things. She is so inconsistent and has literally no thought process. her 1234 was AWEFUL

If there is one person on this wagon who was scum it's her.
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Post Post #1266 (isolation #229) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:03 am

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Like imagine still claiming you town read a slot then making fun of someone literally saying the same thing the moment they call you out.

She doesn't town read nero at all
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Post Post #1274 (isolation #230) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:09 am

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yes I scum read you over scorpious
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Post Post #1279 (isolation #231) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:11 am

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and I also scumread scorpious

his thought process doesn't also make any sense to me but I need to reread then when I'm not awake only by coffee

This is a literal shit show and I find it so interesting that this happened right when Nero wagon got tension and never for the other 2 wagons.
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Post Post #1283 (isolation #232) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:14 am

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Since where did you want nero gone scorp?
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Post Post #1301 (isolation #233) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:23 am

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In post 1290, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1265, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1260, fireisredsir wrote:while reading normal game 2257 (conveniently has a lot of this player list in it), i learned that andante does really weird and impulsive things as town. check out the end of day 1 there if you want to see. the level of inconsistency in her understanding of her own reads here feels past that, though
can she not fake that as mafia?

It's not about her doing weird things. She is so inconsistent and has literally no thought process. her 1234 was AWEFUL

If there is one person on this wagon who was scum it's her.
def can, just saying that alone shouldn't be a reason to suspect. i don't think jumping around and inconsistent thought process is that suspicious for her either, but she keeps making posts that are so out of line with other things she's said that it feels more like she's forgetting what her thoughts and reads are supposed to be, and then hiding behind "not reading" when called out on it. not reading the thread shouldn't affect being able to keep track of your own thoughts. it's easy to be honest.

i just can't decide who i think is more likely between her and scorp, cause they both look bad to me
I would literally call andante scummier.

She is not even trying to hide she forgot her thought process when making 1234. You can't just forget what you think and its not about not reading the game

I like her take about a possible scorp scum tunneling her after that shit show

I even see it as a possibility that we have 3 scum in scorp andante and nero right now and it all make so much sense to me that I want to even cry :facepalm:
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Post Post #1305 (isolation #234) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:25 am

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In post 1295, Andante wrote:
In post 1290, fireisredsir wrote:feels more like she's forgetting what her thoughts and reads are supposed to be
ok no. I keep forgetting what my actual thoughts are cause yall asked me for a list, I wrote that down, gave that, and the way people ask for stuff, I just genuinely don't remember that stuff. Reads I make on my own time, I remember those. Like I don't tr Eyes AT ALL. Hockey's claim is so bad.. Scorp is also getting on their level. but look, none of my thoughts matter cause no one else is thinking that way, so why listen to me?
In post 1211, Andante wrote:
In post 1205, Stephen A Smith wrote:ok how sure are you that nero is scum again
I'm fairly certain nero isn't scum... not gonna lie there
In post 1234, Andante wrote:me: outs a tr on nero post 700

Frozen: HOW DARE YOU VOTE NERO WHILE STILL TRING NERO!!! - post 1200
How could you forget post 1211 when making 1234? It wasn't even 5 minutes since then?!!!
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Post Post #1313 (isolation #235) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:30 am

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Post 1234 is you emphasizing how old your tr on Nero was

please don't insult my intelligence.

Like what else is said in that post beside this? You're saying your tr was done in post 700 and me questing your vote because you had this tr happened in post 1200 so you were implying that it became such an old read and things changed.

while moments before that you said you're certain he won't flip scum
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Post Post #1318 (isolation #236) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:35 am

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In post 1316, Andante wrote:I'm not insulting your intelligence... I see what you're saying. I'm trying to remember my exact thought process, and I can't. I probably misinterpreted the thing I was resonding to

yall post too much

that's @Frozen
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Post Post #1321 (isolation #237) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:39 am

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what did you see when You ISOed Nero?
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Post Post #1402 (isolation #238) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:39 pm

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I also felt scum also jumped on nero wagon at some point too but that literally makes me more confident that it has a great chance to flip red.
In post 1375, Nero Cain wrote:I think it goes without saying that me getting to L-1 and now have like 5 votes in the matter of 7 or 8 hours means scum are all over me
This is just a mafia begging others to dismantle the wagon on him. Litteraly coming in with 0 input about the wagon on him, just commenting on how fast it got built.

and then going after the topic vote and instantly vote it too without even ISOing the slot to see if they were previously suspecting him or not
In post 878, Greeting wrote:
In post 821, Nero Cain wrote:the vast majority of town, including myself, will think twice about voting a claimed pr hence "I guess the correct play might be to give him a day or 2"
And it's why scum fakeclaim prs early game anyways.


Ofc you are claiming that town you will recklessly plow through a pr claim from a "scummy" player which I highly doubt you are telling the truth about b/c its bad town play. You are even going so far as to claim a backup isn't a pr. Which isn't true unless that's like a slip that he isn't actually a backup.

You also have a super convenient null read on him. So if he were flipped today then regardless of his flip you aren't connected. But then I think you said he's hard to read b/c he's "goofy" Hows that fence feel, Angel?

What I said and my stance is perfectly fine and valid.
Really? I haven't seen scum fakeclaiming a PR early game like... ever. In fact, I'd say I haven't seen a lot of scum fakeclaiming PRs at all.

Please clarify if you think
HockeyFan
is fakeclaiming and if so then where does this leave you voting
Frozen Angel
instead.
He has been posting about suspecting nero - practically earlier than anyone else but me in remote manner and I totally felt her thought process there even if they were not written in words.

For nero to just jump on that counter wagon by just this logic that "greeting is a harder vote than scorp is" is just absurd. This is not him analyzing the wagon that was formed on himself. This is nothing at all but just pushing another slot.

Need to see nero flip red still and I just can't see it not happen the more we go through this day.

@Umlaut I literally had no idea what either of them were doing there. Andante's inconsistency with having the idea of "townreading nero" there is just pingging the hell out of me. If anyone is bussying its her.

But then as Andante also mentioned, scorp push back on the slot there felt like a scum trying to tunnel and set something up. Things like 1314 of him going so backward suddenly, or 1271, not remembering the events related to the wagon as he put Nero on E-1 again after the unvote of adante himself just feels fake.

So it's like I scum read them both to the degree that I actually am certain there is scum there as well in addition to nero being another scum. It all just makes sense for other scum(s) to become suddenly so playful on his wagon when it was so close to elimination point.

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In post 1314, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1312, Andante wrote:
In post 1310, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1295, Andante wrote:
In post 1290, fireisredsir wrote:feels more like she's forgetting what her thoughts and reads are supposed to be
ok no. I keep forgetting what my actual thoughts are cause yall asked me for a list, I wrote that down, gave that, and the way people ask for stuff, I just genuinely don't remember that stuff. Reads I make on my own time, I remember those. Like I don't tr Eyes AT ALL. Hockey's claim is so bad.. Scorp is also getting on their level. but look, none of my thoughts matter cause no one else is thinking that way, so why listen to me?
ok, one example is post 1234, as FA called out. making that post makes no sense coming from a perspective of still townreading Nero. another example is you scumread scorp earlier in the game to the point where you said "almost no chance" that he's town, and then just recently you said your scumread on him was a recent thing.
I was TRing scorp earlier today when we had this moment of like agreement, so yeah this sr is a new thing
In post 411, Andante wrote:
In post 408, Eyes without a face wrote:Do you tend to townread people who townread you?
yeah
So all I gotta do is TR you and we're good?
In post 1276, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1272, Andante wrote:
In post 1271, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1270, Andante wrote:
In post 1266, Frozen Angel wrote:She doesn't town read nero at all
I do though...
You left him on L-1!!!

If you're gonna iso him it should be YOU unvoting not FA..
I unvoted before FA, what are you even talking about?
fair this just got so chaotic, my bad..


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Post Post #1403 (isolation #239) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:52 pm

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Like nero developed literally 0 read in this game on either side. He is fence-sitting on all slots practically.
Never took initiation with any read
, neither on me, neither against greeting here nor with his top scumreads hockey, scorp, eye, greeting

There is literally 0 posts in Nero's ISO about andante but this:
In post 531, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 446, Greeting wrote:I like this post very much. Maybe I should look into Nero Cain after all?
it was dumb when she said it and it's still dumb when you agreed with it.
In post 450, HockeyFan wrote:VOTE: Andante
Dante is scummy for scum reading Scorp?

It's also an interesting coincidence that I blasted you for not voting and then you vote...
In post 440, Datisi wrote:Frozen Angel [1]: HockeyFan
Greeting [1]: Eyes without a face
Stephen A Smith [1]: Greeting
Andante [1]: Scorpious

not voting [3]: 0verki11, Frozen Angel, Andante
In post 475, Datisi wrote:Andante [2]: Scorpious, HockeyFan
Greeting [1]: Eyes without a face
wavemode [1]: Greeting

not voting [3]: 0verki11, Frozen Angel, Andante
like all these players being useless with thier vote. With the exception of Andante, I expect there to be multiple scum in this group.
where he literally gave 0 analysis again, throwing shade on a lot of people "eye, greeting, scorpions, hockey me and overkill" but excluded andante from it for some reason. He is literally mentioning half the game and whoever was suspected by someone else without literally saying anything about any of the slots to give him options to push in the future and claim yeah I was calling them out without actually calling anyone out.

and like always so conservative reacting to whatever happens in-game, even the wagon against himself. Like dude,
people literally voted you for no reason
, someone literally vote you despite repeatedly saying the town read you and you didn't even mention them? "Hey, there is scum on my wagon for how fast it was created" This is not even an analysis. It's just throwing information out in form of a guess while literally targeting 7 slots again without forming any kind of read on any of them and then he proceeds to literally break down the post greeting made with a vote on his style without even ISOing greeting just cause she was getting the momentum by fire at the same time.

I would look for scum in nero's slot and on his wagon at the same time with all this.
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Post Post #1404 (isolation #240) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:54 pm

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In post 1390, the worst wrote:
In post 1387, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 1376, the worst wrote:how do you propose we sort frozen/nero?
By ....voting one of them?
nero flips town: then what?
nero flips scum: then what?
frozen flips town: then what?
frozen flips scum: then what?

i don't think this is something that is resolved by flipping one of them. i think flipping one of them to try and solve it instead of flipping scum is pointless, when we can just flip scum. :P
Then go back on Nero :good: He is flipping red
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Post Post #1407 (isolation #241) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:00 pm

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In post 1406, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1402, Frozen Angel wrote:I also felt scum also jumped on nero wagon at some point too but that literally makes me more confident that it has a great chance to flip red.
this alone should tell you that you are falling victim to confirmation bias. in no unbiased world should scum jumping on a wagon, especially on day 1, make you MORE confident that the slot is maf. you're in too deep. it's fine to argue that it's believable that they're bussing, or explain how it still can make sense with your prior view of things, no problem. but there is no way to argue using any logic or rational approach that it increases the probability of nero being scum. there is nothing to support that idea
There is nothing to support that idea "More" in there.

I scam read the slot for literally everything else - which is not even related to how others reacted to him - if you read what I just wrote up there. I just find it interesting that such shitshow happened around the e-1 vote on nero wagon and never on other slots in this game. don't you find it alarming at all?
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Post Post #1408 (isolation #242) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:01 pm

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Like I don't scum read nero because andante was scummy with her vote on his wagon and what she did right after. I scum read nero pretty individually and I scum read andante for doing what she did at the same time

same with scorpious
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Post Post #1410 (isolation #243) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:05 pm

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In post 1409, fireisredsir wrote:I know you scum read him for other reasons. but said that you felt scum were jumping on the wagon, and that made you more confident of him being scum. are you taking that back now?
No There was a reason that shit show happened on his wagon. and how the wagoin is getting dismantled right now, without him actually reacting to it under pressure.

I really want his flip even more now because of it. call me out for a confirmation bias or whatever but he is not flipping green in this
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Post Post #1414 (isolation #244) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:13 pm

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In post 1412, Nero Cain wrote:Greeting didn't "suspect" me until you did. Dude's been budding you and following you around. and his stephan vote were bad. I didn't need to ISO him to know his vote was a scum vote.
"Greeting didn't "suspect" me until you did."

yes but it doesn't mean his vote post was where he started pushing on you or that he is slot for sweeping my read an agreeing with it. He even clearly posted somewhere why he thinks my analysis makes my slot town in his mind and literally expressed how unsure he is about your slot and why

And then the voting post was what you reacted to vote the slot for. You are accusing the slot for not explaining what they meant when they voted you. how would you not be curious to if they actually explained it or not?
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Post Post #1416 (isolation #245) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:16 pm

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also greeting not suspecting you until after I started pushing you makes him scummy because ... ?
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Post Post #1417 (isolation #246) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:19 pm

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In post 1415, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1074, Greeting wrote:wavemode
Andante
Dwlee99
the worst
Nero Cain
Umlaut
Scorpious
fireisredsir
Eyes without a face
Frozen Angel
Stephen A Smith
Greeting
HockeyFan

There might be a scum or even two amongst those coloured light green. I'm just unable to spot them yet.
Greeting has opened himself to being willing to vote all but 3 players. If thats not scum keeping his options open then I don't know what is.
:facepalm: are you just mirroring my accusation against you again :lol:

how is that different from what you did and I explicitly mentioned right above for you?

and how is having different read list tiers scummy in any way? How do you find this read list scummy at all because of the different tier lists and no individual read he gave there?
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Post Post #1419 (isolation #247) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:37 pm

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In post 1418, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1416, Frozen Angel wrote:also greeting not suspecting you until after I started pushing you makes him scummy because ... ?
you do know that scum will go with whatevers popular, right? Also you are accusing me of that so I don't see how it applies to me but not him.
How was that the popular opinion at the time?

Greeting was the only other person back then when he went after you when I started calling you scum

I'm accusing you of not developing a read on greeting based on greeting's content and just hoping on that wagon when you're pressured. how were these two similar in anyway and how is greeting suspecting you after I suspected you makes greeting scummy?
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Post Post #1422 (isolation #248) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:26 pm

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I don't think what you and he did are the same.

I found them both awful for different reasons actually

greetings readlist doesn't have much content going on in it, But It's his try to share his mindset overall mainly to show the slots he trust not the slots he suspects so you're trying to look at it at the opposite angle and pushing it like its his try to keep a possible option to vote on multiple slots is absolutely moot

What you did however during the game on multiple occasions was dropping lists of names of people who you would vote in between for different non-anlytic reasons such as the one I mentioned above. It's practically what scum does to look like they are solving the game while keeping their options open.

So between the slots in game so far you radiated slight suspicion for or directly suspected hockey, eye, greeting, me, overkill and scorp and can't literally find anything ever said about any other slot. Thats whats fencesitting on a bunch of reads and using whichever you find appropriate based on the current mind state of others in game is. but then again I would not be accusing you of that if your reads were not "they are scum unless if they are town" for both eye and hockey. Couldn't understand or follow how you scumread eyes at all as well as I could not follow how you developed any sort of scum read on me

and now jumping on greeting again for that shallow read and then you acting certain with it without anything being there in your post "investigating how they suspicion on you was formed" is just not making any sense from a town mindset
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Post Post #1442 (isolation #249) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:42 am

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@Umalut My read on his wagon and on him are actually pretty separate and on their own and I explained it there

but yeah they just make sense together as well. Regardless to answer your question, If the wagon was all town, it would not make nero townier at all. It would just mean a bunch of town players decided to run a shit show of inconsistencies when he was put there. But if there was a mafia there, it would just make way more sense if it was an attempt to bus. or why would a mafia!andante drop that vote to directly backtrack on her own mind set? Nor it would make sense for a mafia!scorpious to suddenly create that read about nero just to put him back on e1 when adnante didn't.


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It was the wagon that had momentum. You literally made the vote and pushed the slot.

a smart scum won't go for the typical scum read of everyone else. a smart scum would go for greeting there, who was less talked about, had a momentum going after her. It's so not something to give him credit for.
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Post Post #1447 (isolation #250) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:49 am

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I have a more stronger townread on greeting than fire, dwlee and Stephen and umalut actually even though all those slots are also a town read right now too

Greeting was actually super consistent in entire game, was literally second person who called nero out, faced andante there when she literally threw her town read on nero, made an analysis on how I'm solving the game which was obvious is something she thought about and not just threw out.
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Post Post #1448 (isolation #251) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:51 am

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In post 1445, fireisredsir wrote:nah jumping on a wagon right away p much always looks opportunistic and makes the people doing it look worse. if he had voted scorp instead you would have said that he looked scummy for that too, you can't have both
yeah why did he unvote eye to go for greeting there? he had no post about greeting before beside his wide scumread announcement on half of the slots in game before

he was voting eye meaning he was scumreading eye more than greeting when he unvoted me

what changed that vote beside him seeing an opportunity to buddy you?
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Post Post #1453 (isolation #252) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:54 am

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I literally would suspect him way less for this if he would even mention andante and scorp weird act on his wagon. In his ISO he has 0 reference to andante. only related interactions where when he jumped in and asked umlat why he doesn't townr read nero when he asked andante why she is townreading him
and once other time when he literally excluded her from his wide scumread announcement on slots not voting the main wagons.

He literally made not even a mention of that weird fiasco on his e-1 vote it and went after greeting

Was he really analyzing the votes against him when he found greeting scummy or was he just budding you?
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Post Post #1459 (isolation #253) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:58 am

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constancy with doing a pattern of actions that make sense with a town mindset is the best and arguably the only town tell

Someone can even get scum killed but that doesn't make them town for the action. what leads to them mentally to the state where they perform the action is the true location were a town tell can be deduced

I'm not saying I town read him for staying suspicious of nero. I say I town read the slot cause I saw them consistently evaluate the whole thing
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Post Post #1464 (isolation #254) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:01 am

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In post 1458, Andante wrote:
In post 1453, Frozen Angel wrote:I literally would suspect him way less for this if he would even mention andante and scorp weird act on his wagon. In his ISO he has 0 reference to andante. only related interactions where when he jumped in and asked umlat why he doesn't townr read nero when he asked andante why she is townreading him
and once other time when he literally excluded her from his wide scumread announcement on slots not voting the main wagons.

He literally made not even a mention of that weird fiasco on his e-1 vote it and went after greeting

Was he really analyzing the votes against him when he found greeting scummy or was he just budding you?
or is it just the case where you ignore people you think are town? I do that all the time
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so we deduce he has a supposedly town read on your slot. Let's find out how that was developed and why shall we?

we would understand that read if he was literally reacting to the vote you put on the slot and would actually anlyse the votes on his wagon instead of making a general board vague statement like the rest of the stuff he did during this day and jump the way he did
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Post Post #1465 (isolation #255) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:03 am

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In post 1461, Andante wrote:I need flips to happen before I tr people for "consistency" just sayin
what do flips have to do with the consistency I mentioned

You're either not reading what I'm saying or not understanding it
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Post Post #1467 (isolation #256) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:05 am

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In post 1462, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1457, Andante wrote:Greeting wagon is harder than a scorp wagon?
yes
Hardest wagon ever

VOTE: Nero Cain

Let's have him flip, please

Pedit: cause people are asking about my methodology to solve the game so I'm responding methodical
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Post Post #1478 (isolation #257) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:12 am

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In post 1474, Andante wrote:wave shows up at the most suspicious times... why is anyone ok with this nero wagon after wave comes out of no where "yeah! e-1!!"
Why were you ok with nero wagon last night to vote him?
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Post Post #1488 (isolation #258) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:19 am

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In post 533, Nero Cain wrote:it might be b/c I've already seen Eyes response to the pressure on him but I feel like FA's claim that Eye's reads are fabricated is pure nonsense. He's either scum that's doublind down or that that actually believes in that theory.
In post 520, HockeyFan wrote:@Dwlee, in 505, u said eyes+FA could be partnered(presumably cuz of 503?), but why are u big on that being a partnery psot, when the same logic can be applied to u. Eyes TR'D you even after u being a replacement
oof
In post 523, Andante wrote:who are we limming? or like top 2-3 names?
hockey? greeting? frozen angel? eyes?
@nero everytime you post this post again to say you were suspicious of other slots you make a penguin face palm in south pole

This is literally the worst post you ever made in this game.

It first starts with your classic back and forth moves on slots not offering any content but acting like one (about eye)

"He's either scum that's doublind down or that that actually believes in that theory."

This is literally and deliberately saying NOTHING

and right before that you called what I said nonsense after it was established that it was supposedly a misunderstanding. You saying what she said is nonsense, eye is either scum or town!

That's the literally translation of the first sentence.

Now to the later part where you listed a bunch of names. The names didn't come from anywhere but this post right above it:
In post 531, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 446, Greeting wrote:I like this post very much. Maybe I should look into Nero Cain after all?
it was dumb when she said it and it's still dumb when you agreed with it.
In post 450, HockeyFan wrote:VOTE: Andante
Dante is scummy for scum reading Scorp?

It's also an interesting coincidence that I blasted you for not voting and then you vote...
In post 440, Datisi wrote:Frozen Angel [1]: HockeyFan
Greeting [1]: Eyes without a face
Stephen A Smith [1]: Greeting
Andante [1]: Scorpious

not voting [3]: 0verki11, Frozen Angel, Andante
In post 475, Datisi wrote:Andante [2]: Scorpious, HockeyFan
Greeting [1]: Eyes without a face
wavemode [1]: Greeting

not voting [3]: 0verki11, Frozen Angel, Andante
like all these players being useless with thier vote. With the exception of Andante, I expect there to be multiple scum in this group.
You're literally listing half the game "for being useless with their votes" = not voting any of the major wagons

That is literally the least thoughtful sorting anyone could ever do at that point of the game to keep their options open to literally be able to respond to any questions like

"where did you previously suspect greeting" "where did you previously suspect Frozen"

the way you do.

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Post Post #1490 (isolation #259) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:20 am

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In post 1483, Scorpious wrote:UNVOTE: Nero does not need to be E-1 at this moment
It does
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Post Post #1498 (isolation #260) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:23 am

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Just gotta love it when everyone just ignore my post and move on with their own stuff

have a great night everyone
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Post Post #1499 (isolation #261) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:24 am

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In post 1492, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1483, Scorpious wrote:UNVOTE: Nero does not need to be E-1 at this moment
Why would you even vote me in the first place if you felt FA was being dishonest?
where did he say that?
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Post Post #1504 (isolation #262) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:28 am

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In post 1501, Nero Cain wrote:thats b/c your posts kinda suck. I know thats kinda mean but its true and you are only getting your way b/c ppl are tired of listening to you drone on. ofc, there's also opportunistic scum voting me.
we'll see about that when you actually flipped red which you will
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Post Post #1506 (isolation #263) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:28 am

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In post 1503, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1350, Scorpious wrote:If FA is scum. Give her an award. If you can manufacture that much dishonesty so consistently and so often my god.
I missed that actually

@scorp what dishonesty?
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Post Post #1517 (isolation #264) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:34 am

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In post 1508, fireisredsir wrote:this is literally wrong

the first paragraph is not expressing a read on eyes, it's expressing a read on you. i don't know how you keep misreading this. the fact that eyes is either scum doubling down or actually believes the theory is there as evidence that the theory is not fabricated. it's there to show why you saying that it is fabricated is nonsense. it's not trying to determine his alignment, because the point is about the theory. it's literally giving both perspectives to show that no matter what his alignment is, he is standing by the theory.

you are misreading this completely and thinking that he is trying to look like he is offering up content on eyes while actually saying nothing. but the point of that sentence is literally NOT about eyes' alignment, it's about you and your read on his theory
I said the his read is fabricated but I don't find the fabrication inherently scummy, because I was under the assumption he called me out after his theory directly. I saw the greeting and his literal shout out about me not liking things and was like yeah he is hinting a suspecifioun on my slot, lets see where he goes with it. It was fabricated in that case as his theory would not single me out in any way. His theory was broader and would actually mean he should have suspected other people there as well.

Nero never gave a read on eye himself but he had him as a suspect alongside the other half of players as well. That is him giving his read on the whole eye interaction: "I have no read"

how can he have him as his prime suspect to literally vote the slot over his claimed scumread on my slot after pushing me out of everyone else where that was his stance on the matter.
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Post Post #1520 (isolation #265) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:35 am

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In post 1516, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1506, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1503, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1350, Scorpious wrote:If FA is scum. Give her an award. If you can manufacture that much dishonesty so consistently and so often my god.
I missed that actually

@scorp what dishonesty?
I was saying I dont think you are,and if you are capabale of beig so dishonest so consistently you need to go find a job as a spy. You are my strongest TR
oh I read that wrong

I understand what you mean now.
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Post Post #1521 (isolation #266) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:37 am

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Andante is the only other slot I'm warm enough to vote if the majority don't want a nero flip

with still nero being the standing top 1 scum read of mine that is likely not going to change under circumstances after whatever I saw
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Post Post #1522 (isolation #267) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:38 am

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under any circimstances*
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Post Post #1524 (isolation #268) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:39 am

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nah I want a nero flip.
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Post Post #1613 (isolation #269) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:56 am

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worst is likely town. nero is scum

greeting is a bad wagon.

I really don't have much time to play tonight. will catch up first thing tomorrow
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Post Post #1754 (isolation #270) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:52 am

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In post 1726, Nero Cain wrote:have we all learned nothing from this game? Consistency is a town tell so sayeth Frozen. Never mind the fact the scum are the ones that will try to stay super consistent so they don't get called on being inconsistent.

but it's not like a 09' join date knows anything.
You could not misrepresent everything I said in a more disgusting manner

Consistency with a mindset and having a pattern of behavior that proves your evaluating the game is a town tell yes.

And you're not a town

I don't see greeting scummy. his back and forth with the worst was towny. I literally can't see how is this push justified on his wagon. Nero on the other hand is still scummy and must go.

and @Hockey so now you scum read me? Go ahead and vote.

I want today lynch to be either me or Nero. I want nero slot eliminated from the game. Either lynch me first and then get rid of him after you saw my green flip or directly get rid of him and see his red flip with your own eyes.

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Post Post #1755 (isolation #271) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:52 am

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In post 1726, Nero Cain wrote:have we all learned nothing from this game? Consistency is a town tell so sayeth Frozen. Never mind the fact the scum are the ones that will try to stay super consistent so they don't get called on being inconsistent.

but it's not like a 09' join date knows anything.
You could not misrepresent everything I said in a more disgusting manner

Consistency with a mindset and having a pattern of behavior that proves your evaluating the game is a town tell yes.

And you're not a town

I don't see greeting scummy. his back and forth with the worst was towny. I literally can't see how is this push justified on his wagon. Nero on the other hand is still scummy and must go.

and @Hockey so now you scum read me? Go ahead and vote.

I want today lynch to be either me or Nero. I want nero slot eliminated from the game. Either lynch me first and then get rid of him after you saw my green flip or directly get rid of him and see his red flip with your own eyes.

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Post Post #1756 (isolation #272) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:53 am

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lol double post cause of my internet lagging

But would repeat the vote if I could for a thousand time cause it's on scum
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Post Post #1757 (isolation #273) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:53 am

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and eliminate not the l-word sorry...
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Post Post #1758 (isolation #274) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:55 am

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VOTE: Nero Cain
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Post Post #1759 (isolation #275) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:55 am

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VOTE: Nero Cain
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Post Post #1761 (isolation #276) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:01 am

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Town please listen to me. I am certain about what I see.

please at least try to sort the slot with whatever method you have without any bias on your own before just branching on other wagons the way you do.

Nero in this game is like a textbook scum player. Like literally whoever has 5 games should be able to see how he has not been solving shit and how fake he is. That's how brutally obvious it looks for me.
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Post Post #1766 (isolation #277) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:08 am

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I in no context said consistency with reads are a town tell

You saying nero is right with his blatant misrepresentation makes my blood boil
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Post Post #1768 (isolation #278) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:09 am

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I want to see 5 more votes on nero

Please help me
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Post Post #1781 (isolation #279) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:16 am

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Nero is right about saying "consistency" as repeating an action or keeping a read isn't a town tell

That is a blatant misrepresentation of what I said and explained clearly on multiple occasions of what I called a town tell however.

Consistancy with having a mind set of solving and evaluating and showing a consistent PATTERN of actions/behavior suggesting that you have that consistency (for solving the game) is a town tell

It's the ONLY town tell

no action is a town tell on its own.

I literally can make a definitely accurate read list on entire slots of game and be mafia. I can literally eliminate every single mafia in game and be also mafia. I can literally claim whatever the hell I want and be mafia. I can even be aggressive defensive sympathetic or whatever and be mafia

No behavior or action can show whats someone alignment. You can only evaluate the probability of them coming from either town or mafia mandset by evaluating the pattern of them in a game like this

That's what I said before. Thats how I scum hunt and I will not let him or you or anyone else misrepresent me.
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Post Post #1785 (isolation #280) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:18 am

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In post 1782, Dwlee99 wrote:Frozen I have no idea what you're talking about because I read none of the context
Thanks for that

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Post Post #1792 (isolation #281) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:21 am

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In post 1789, fireisredsir wrote:Nero said that FA said that consistency is a towntell cause he was making fun of her in a relevant context when scorp said that waves reads had been too consistent to be town. however it doesn't apply perfectly because FA believes in consistency of play/behavior, not consistency of reads, so now she's mad that he was misrepresenting her
ofcourse I'm mad

But he is scum for a lot other reasons not cause I'm mad.
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Post Post #1797 (isolation #282) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:50 am

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In post 1795, fireisredsir wrote:i wanna be super clear that everyone sees here how much more willing andante is to vote someone she townreads (sorry Nero, FA is too passionate!! I must vote you! I have no choice!!) than greeting, someone she has repeatedly dodged around giving an opinion on (i don't remember anything he posted!! i will vote him if wavemode townreads!! oh, he did? uhhh gotta go bye)

if i die tonight someone promise me you shall carry this information on to the people who are not reading the thread
+ her inconsistencies back then when first nero wagon was made

She is not developing any read on nero while claiming its a TR.

She is like the only slot I might actually vote over nero today as I said.
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Post Post #1807 (isolation #283) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:41 am

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VOTE: Nero Cain
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Post Post #1808 (isolation #284) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:44 am

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In post 1801, Nero Cain wrote:it SHOULD be Greeting today b/c its a scum slot but if it takes my death to finally flip scum I'm relatively ok with that
In post 1755, Frozen Angel wrote:I want today lynch to be either me or Nero. I want nero slot eliminated from the game. Either lynch me first and then get rid of him after you saw my green flip or directly get rid of him and see his red flip with your own eyes.
0 creativity even
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Post Post #1815 (isolation #285) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:52 am

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nero need 4 more votes
In post 1810, Nero Cain wrote:there's not even a wagon on you and the only other person that thinks you are scum is hockey.
It's good of you that you still keep pretending that you're scum reading me

I said that cause I was angry after reading your misrepresentation two pages ago actually. You're going down regardless
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Post Post #1817 (isolation #286) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:52 am

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In post 1814, Eyes without a face wrote:Nero has been overly eliminated. Now can we please vote scum?
No he is not

I'm voting scum. Who are you voting?
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Post Post #1833 (isolation #287) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:39 am

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In post 1832, Nero Cain wrote:I've broken the FA bot. All she can do is vote me over and over again
VOTE: Nero Cain

I'm not programmed to not vote scum
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Post Post #1847 (isolation #288) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:17 am

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In post 1846, Eyes without a face wrote:
In post 1821, Greeting wrote:I am voting scum right now. Can you please vote scum?
Nero is not scum in this game. If he then he had some magical transformation in his playstyle nobody can claim to have meta on him anymore.
oh you wanna meta him now. ok lets play along

meta him now
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Post Post #1849 (isolation #289) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:42 am

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In post 1848, Eyes without a face wrote:OK

Metachk Nero.Cain

Metachk complete

Nero.Cain=town

Process ended
well that's good for you.

If you want to give the slot some credibility for meta you gotta cross reference his behavior in this game with his other games and explain how his pattern of behavior here contradicts his mindset as a scum player in general/goes in line with his mindset as a town player

Dig it or do whatever you want for yourself and let the rest of us lynch scum
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Post Post #1852 (isolation #290) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:53 am

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I haven't used meta to strengthen or weaken my read on your slot nero.

I'm asking if he wants me to consider meta he has to do the digging

whats wrong about that?
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Post Post #1854 (isolation #291) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:57 am

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In post 1851, Nero Cain wrote:but my MINDSET is that of a scum player. If that's not generic and catchall I don't know what is. Could you please explain what this scum mindset that you claim I have is?
I explained like a thousand times. TLDR is You fence sit on reads, kept options open, added general sentences that gave no analysis to look like you're making content, made fake pushes and faked how you read slots and double downed on it when called out for them, misrepresented to evade the pressure and tried to create a loop to make the case against you look less credible

Scum mindset is to try and blend in with reads and to guide when opportunities arise. Your fence sitting, having no clear analysis leading to creation of your reads and to seem consistent with them double downing on them when you feel it can make you look better without having a reason to all are consistently from a scum mindset.
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Post Post #1855 (isolation #292) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:58 am

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In post 1853, Nero Cain wrote:that's kinda deflecty. There's nothing wrong with it I just asked you to explain this scum mindset I supposedly have
I was still typing. But nice try

Deflecty is how you try to repeatedly misrepresent my case against you however you can.
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Post Post #1856 (isolation #293) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:58 am

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In post 1851, Nero Cain wrote:but then you've said its not a meta read despite using language that makes it sound like a meta read.
I've never and no context ever said this.
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Post Post #1857 (isolation #294) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:59 am

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Just hang this scum please
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Post Post #1859 (isolation #295) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:14 am

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In post 1858, HockeyFan wrote:why are u so surpised? I've said b4 i didnt like the nero wagon, and I didnt think he was scum. Also, nah i like the scrop wagon better
how is not liking nero wagon makes me in particular look scummy to you?
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Post Post #1861 (isolation #296) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:26 am

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In post 1860, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1856, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1851, Nero Cain wrote:but then you've said its not a meta read despite using language that makes it sound like a meta read.
I've never and no context ever said this.
with all the times you've said "I've never in no context said this" and been wrong, it's completely lost any meaning. i brought this up before last time you said you never said anything to imply you were using meta and you ignored it:
In post 888, Frozen Angel wrote:Nero is not in experienced. Nero doesn't play like that as town
That's me saying he is not a newbie pretty much

Never used his meta.
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Post Post #1862 (isolation #297) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:27 am

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and I never used his meta

He tried to discredit my read on his slot before by asking me how many games I played with him and act like my case is based on meta before as well. How can you not see that?
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Post Post #1967 (isolation #298) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:07 pm

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In post 1872, fireisredsir wrote:wave and andante both put nero at E-1 at different times, they seem v willing to vote him. don't think they're stuck
Andante seems very willing to unvote him too

she just wants to be seen around the cool wagon in case it went down
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Post Post #1968 (isolation #299) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:09 pm

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In post 1878, Nero Cain wrote:When you say things like "Nero doesn't play like that as town" and other similar things (and yes I know you are defending it as calling me a non newbie) it makes/made it sound like it was based on meta. Hence why I asked. You informed me it wasn't. ok, fine. I moved on but you are still stuck there for some reason.
cause you brought it back and talked about how it was based on meta once again when I was talking to someone else's meta read

what are you even trying to get to in here?

like literally everyone can see that you brought the topic on
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Post Post #1969 (isolation #300) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:11 pm

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In post 1878, Nero Cain wrote:you are also discrediting eyes here and the whole just scum reading me based on "how scum plays in general" while not talking or looking at how I play just seems idk...not very thorough. It's like you found something you could push and then just ??? called it a day.
I'm not discrediting anyone I said his "meta read" is his own until he explains it. You're full of shit.

Of course I'm scum reading you for you behaving like how scum should and will play in general. How is that even "weird" for you to even point out. Litteraly that's the definition of scum hunting.
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Post Post #1970 (isolation #301) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:12 pm

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In post 1890, fireisredsir wrote:hi let's get greeting outta here
no nero

Please listen to me.
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Post Post #1971 (isolation #302) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:12 pm

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In post 1900, fireisredsir wrote:um... im the coolest kid here...

FA is tunneled, greeting is scum, wave is eh, nobody else is really that committed imo
I am tunneled on scum

I want scum dead

please listen to me.
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Post Post #1972 (isolation #303) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:16 pm

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I just read you got greeting eliminated

nero has to go next day. This was the counter wagon he actually pushed along to form and was supported by other scum (probably scorp) , he went along side fire read as he was read wildly town without forming any read of his own on greeting, just like his read on my slot was fake.

after all these games I played I know a thing or two. If I got night killed, don't go along the wifom created that he will push along.

Do not give nero free path.

Other top suspect is Andante
next in line is Scorp and then Eye
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Post Post #1973 (isolation #304) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:17 pm

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In post 1955, Andante wrote:I feel bad I wasn't here to fight against it :( Sounds like yall limmed Greeting without a claim too
This is BS btw. You were not against it when you were around.

please don't give Andante a free path either for acting clumsy with her reads and back tracking on stuff/forgetting what she was supposed to "think" literally 5 minutes ago in posts like 1234
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Post Post #3338 (isolation #305) » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:10 am

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GG guys <3
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Post Post #3348 (isolation #306) » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:15 am

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In post 3341, Andante wrote:LMAOO that dead chat was amazing!!! every single dead person was convinced it was me? hahahaha love it!! so many funny things in dead chat though!! thanks for modding Datisi!!! lol betting your avatar on if they could guess me being town.... lol
Your play was really strange regarding nero. You literally forgot your read mid day 1

+ I was hoping you would be scum so I had a perfect read :D
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Post Post #3349 (isolation #307) » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:16 am

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In post 3344, Eyes without a face wrote:So 2 out of 3 scums were replaced vs 4 out of 10 town?? Nah.. never go for replacement. That's a bad theory evidently.

GG
still an awful theory.

Unless if you statistically prove it with a sufficient data on a population/site meta.
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Post Post #3355 (isolation #308) » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:01 am

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In post 3353, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3350, Datisi wrote:
In post 3349, Frozen Angel wrote:Unless if you statistically prove it with a sufficient data on a population/site meta.
wasn't there that peer reviewed scientific paper that proved that those who replace out on mafiascum dot net are 6% more likely to be scum
im pretty sure there have been at least 2 MD topics about it and the general conclusion was that scum replace out more often than town
will be good if you send me the link to them. I wonder if it had statistical significance.
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