Mini Normal 2310 | Day 7

[Hu Tao]

Hi.

[Hu Tao]

i think i've played with a few of you.

observation: the presence or absence of scum multitasking is not noted anywhere in the original modposts. i wonder if that means we're up against all goons?

What does this second part even mean?

[Hu Tao]

I agree something seems off about it like TMI but maybe I'm not understanding something and someone else can explain

[Hu Tao]

i think i've played with a few of you.

observation: the presence or absence of scum multitasking is not noted anywhere in the original modposts. i wonder if that means we're up against all goons?

What does this second part even mean?

well, usually the mod would tell us whether or not the mafia can multitask by default (commit the kill and use whatever abilities they have in the same night). when i skimmed the rules post, i noticed that the mod didn't actually make a ruling on this. i'm speculating that maybe the reason for the oversight is that the mafia don't have any abilities to use, and therefore it doesn't matter if they can multitask or not.
in that vein,

@mod - is multitasking enabled by default?

I see. Is that something specific you look for every game?

[Hu Tao]

what if abnegation is scum and looked to see if she could multitask in the first place

That was my original thought

[Hu Tao]

Hi Klazam, didn't know you also play mafia.

I'll use +1 this time and VOTE: BlackStar.

Having been away a year or two I don't know if focusing on the presence/lack of things in the mod's posts is currently normal in a normal.

I've only played a few games but that post seems out of the regular from what I've seen

[Hu Tao]

Alright I looked at some other games’ rules posts, I’m new to that particular thing, wasn’t a thing when I played here awhile ago.

Because it appears to be a thing here on site (I did see a couple that didn’t mention the multitasking whatsoever). That particular piece of setup spec makes more sense to me so gonna

UNVOTE: Abnegation

I think it would be weird for scum to make the particular comment that he did with the above in mind, so Ima sliiight lean town on abneg.


I doubt that we could rely on the absence of multitasking in the rules to tell us anything though.

Back on you my vote goes

VOTE: davesaz

I disagree on it being towny because he said it. Cause it seems hard to just automatically notice that's missing. Maybe I'm paranoid though.

[Hu Tao]

what if abnegation is scum and looked to see if she could multitask in the first place

That was my original thought

Making a public post on it as scum, with daytalk? I’m not so sure about that

More so, knew about it and posting it to seem towny was my point. Scum would know if they could multitask or not I assume

[Hu Tao]

what if abnegation is scum and looked to see if she could multitask in the first place

That was my original thought

Making a public post on it as scum, with daytalk? I’m not so sure about that

towncred exists and abnegation was speculating that the mafia could be only goons

Yep exactly

[Hu Tao]

most likely klazam is either town or paired with abnegation

Suspicious post. I think it's too early for that

[Hu Tao]

Meow! Been a small while since I've played. I actually don't remember most of this list.

VOTE: geraintm

I think I've played with you before once, then again there are a lot of cats on this site so maybe not

[Hu Tao]

most likely klazam is either town or paired with abnegation

Suspicious post. I think it's too early for that

You've said a couple things are suspicious. What will be your threshold for a vote?

Why do I need to vote? It's 2 or 3 pages in, of course I'm trying to find things I find suspicious.

[Hu Tao]

ah, damn, Drew's scum here

How so?

[Hu Tao]

I know I should unvote, but I like some pressure on Anaconda.

let's add some more then!

VOTE: abnegation

The fuck you doing.

most likely klazam is either town or paired with abnegation

Suspicious post. I think it's too early for that

You've said a couple things are suspicious. What will be your threshold for a vote?

Why do I need to vote? It's 2 or 3 pages in, of course I'm trying to find things I find suspicious.

I actually am agreeing with Dave here- your vote is your most powerful tool. Poking at things verbally with no action behind it makes seems like you’re trying to play it safe.

Here’s how to use your vote.

VOTE: hu tao

Thank you for showing me how to vote, I'm glad someone gave me such valuable information

[Hu Tao]

I like Hu Tao, pushing the game forward, saying openly what they don't like instead of fluffposting

Weird since most people don't like the way I play in the beginning and find it standoffish at first. But thanks!

[Hu Tao]

Happy to see the pace isn't too bad.
Not as happy to see a low s/n ratio.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy

Know what, I can get behind this. Been feeling the same, and seeing that cCS been going for low hanging fruit.

VOTE: camelCasedSnivy

Still want hu tao to actually take a stance. If you had to vote someone, who would you vote and why?

It would be Ab currently and I've made that pretty clear. I don't think I have to vote someone to do that.

[Hu Tao]

Lol Dave is scum

Reason?

[Hu Tao]

Happy to see the pace isn't too bad.
Not as happy to see a low s/n ratio.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy

Anyone ever read games they wrote ten years ago?
Was everyone cringe or just me?

i wasn't here ten years ago but my old games do make me cringe lol.

VOTE: scorpius

What’s the reasoning for these votes?

They fulfilled thr criteria to be voted

this is so funny it makes me wanna townread it for it being so blunt and simple

[Hu Tao]

[Hu Tao]

So why aren’t you voting Abneg?

Because I don't want to. What are you going to do? Vote me for not voting?

[Hu Tao]

Lol Dave is scum

Can't remember the last time I say stay in background and snipe Flavor Leaf

Happy to see the pace isn't too bad.
Not as happy to see a low s/n ratio.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy

Anyone ever read games they wrote ten years ago?
Was everyone cringe or just me?

i wasn't here ten years ago but my old games do make me cringe lol.

VOTE: scorpius

What’s the reasoning for these votes?

They fulfilled thr criteria to be voted

Can I borrow your scum checklist for a couple minutes?

But why are so many people getting their boxers in a twist over needing a reason for a vote or a read?

Makes me think people are getting a bit worried, if you pick up what I am putting down.

Also, getting pinged town by Hu Tao.

Why?

[Hu Tao]

What would you suggest using to generate reads, if not votes and talk about votes or the lack thereof?

Making a big deal out of not voting someone is not productive especially this early, especially when people are giving reasons regardless. A vote at this point is usually for show.

[Hu Tao]

Oh jeez you too lol?

But honestly I feel a vibe from you I didn't get from Utopia.

I thought your hydra town read me in utopia though?

[Hu Tao]

Oh jeez you too lol?

But honestly I feel a vibe from you I didn't get from Utopia.

I thought your hydra town read me in utopia though?

Well I did.

And uh.....remember you did end up being scum.

So if I think you are different here........??

Okay. I'm mostly concerned about people trying to pocket that way. I caught a scum that way before.

[Hu Tao]

Oh jeez you too lol?

But honestly I feel a vibe from you I didn't get from Utopia.

I thought your hydra town read me in utopia though?

Well I did.

And uh.....remember you did end up being scum.

So if I think you are different here........??

Okay. I'm mostly concerned about people trying to pocket that way. I caught a scum that way before.

From people town reading you off of play from a previous game?

Yes, I've had someone say that I seem town for flimsy reasons based on a previous game and they were scum.

[Hu Tao]

Sorry I like replying to everything

[Hu Tao]

I like Hu Tao’s response to my pressure.

cCS, I like less.

I know it’s literally been a day since we started but I’m surprised people are not reacting to abnegation’s self vote.

That’s my thoughts right now. See y’all later tonight or tomorrow

I actually like cCS's response. In terms of the self vote, I think it's usually NAI and depends on the person

[Hu Tao]

how does one react to someone's self-vote

isn't self-vote kinda a NAI fluff?

Agreed

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Klazam

I think they backed off after seeing people townread me and it didn't seem natural in the first place.

[Hu Tao]

It just seems like all of their posts are joking around instead of trying to do something

what are you trying to do with the vote? do you actually find that scum-indicative or is it more of a pressure vote to try to get them to do something?

I think it's scum indicative

i will have to disagree with you on that.

Me too

[Hu Tao]

I can think of at least three ways for Flavor Leaf to be this way, one each town, scum, and NAI. The town and NAI ones shouldn't be discussed and can't be discussed respectively.
Reserved FL isn't something I see too often, though as I mentioned before it's been quite a while. If I had to guess I'd say it's the NAI version.

Hu and Klaz feel like they're solving, and townleans. If I had to pick one of them to be a scumlean it would be Hu but that's primarily driven by a feeling that voting is the main way of generating conflict to get reads from, which makes me biased against not voting.

I don't see the purpose for Abnegation to still be self voting. It's still the first 1/4 of day so being on the sidelines isn't urgent yet, but it isn't doing anything to advance the game and that's troubling.

So your analysis is that FL posting is either Town, scum or NAI? Groundbreaking.. this post feels like filler. And your reason for your possible scumlean is basically what klazam said

[Hu Tao]

I think camel is town.

Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.

Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.

Klaz also town imo.

Why is klaz and camel town?

[Hu Tao]

actually that might be a townslip.

How?

[Hu Tao]

actually that might be a townslip.

How?

it points towards kitty having a real read on leek that they just didn't post for whatever reason, as opposed to making up a townread "crumbling" when they'd never even mentioned one.

Oh that makes sense actually

[Hu Tao]

actually that might be a townslip.

How?

it points towards kitty having a real read on leek that they just didn't post for whatever reason, as opposed to making up a townread "crumbling" when they'd never even mentioned one.

i feel like i'm not explaining this very well but i can't think how to explain it better.

Meh that seems like a stretch, they also could have just made up the town read and forgot they actually posted said read.

I am watching you Aspartame.

Also true

[Hu Tao]

So your analysis is that FL posting is either Town, scum or NAI? Groundbreaking.. this post feels like filler.

That's a surface level interpretation. Saying "it could be one of these things" and then clearly choosing one of them is hardly filler.

And your choice was NAI which means it could be either

[Hu Tao]

This game does seem slow

[Hu Tao]

Are you saying it feels a little bland and needs some more ______

Needs more flavor

[Hu Tao]

ugh do yall really trust klazam

dont see a reason we should go leaf over klazam if youre that willing to wagon a townie

How do you know they are town?

[Hu Tao]

if anyone wants to start a wagon on dave or any of the inactive slots ill join

The more you speak the more I want to vote you

[Hu Tao]

Hello!

[Hu Tao]

Alright I looked at some other games’ rules posts, I’m new to that particular thing, wasn’t a thing when I played here awhile ago.

Because it appears to be a thing here on site (I did see a couple that didn’t mention the multitasking whatsoever). That particular piece of setup spec makes more sense to me so gonna

UNVOTE: Abnegation

I think it would be weird for scum to make the particular comment that he did with the above in mind, so Ima sliiight lean town on abneg.


I doubt that we could rely on the absence of multitasking in the rules to tell us anything though.

Back on you my vote goes

VOTE: davesaz

This post is super scummy?

VOTE: Klazam

I like you already

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao
camelCasedSnivy
SzmarzLeek
Flavor Leaf
Abnegation

BlackStar
Doctor Drew
KittyTacky
Klazam

geraintm
Arko
davesaz

I can vibe with this. I think camel's last few posts were sus though.

[Hu Tao]

I like Klazam's case. It seems like the sort of thought process that stems from townynoia - like, the idea that the behavior of another player is a reaction to your own towny actions. Blackstar displays this in his case too. I'm not quite sold against cCS but the post-hoc addition of #264 above does ring me. Like the need to display a consistency in his voting progression. This sort of self-consciousness I think more comes from maf. Actually, I've convinced myself while writing this. The Klaz/Hu vote thing is such a stale reason to still be voting Klaz, especially after Klaz updated on his motivations behind the push and what he got from it. I actually think cCS is probably a hit.

VOTE: cCS

I see you've seen the light but I still think klazam is scummy. Maybe that will change

[Hu Tao]

I could see drew scum looking back. That flavor vote was kinda bad

[Hu Tao]

I'm trying to be active. But in slow games I am usually quiet because my playstyle is reactive more than active.

Then why not converse with someone? Sounds like an excuse

[Hu Tao]

checking in, read/catch up coming soon)

Welcome!

[Hu Tao]

took long break and flaked out long ago,, almost can’t remember how to play kek

most likely klazam is either town or paired with abnegation

Suspicious post. I think it's too early for that

scummy,, it’s weird-towny!

most likely klazam is either town or paired with abnegation

Suspicious post. I think it's too early for that

You've said a couple things are suspicious. What will be your threshold for a vote?

Why do I need to vote? It's 2 or 3 pages in, of course I'm trying to find things I find suspicious.

caught shade?!

i think i've played with a few of you.

observation: the presence or absence of scum multitasking is not noted anywhere in the original modposts. i wonder if that means we're up against all goons?

What does this second part even mean?

I agree something seems off about it like TMI but maybe I'm not understanding something and someone else can explain

omg xD

VOTE: hutao[/v]

Finally something exciting

[Hu Tao]

I'm trying to be active. But in slow games I am usually quiet because my playstyle is reactive more than active.

Then why not converse with someone? Sounds like an excuse

Alright.

What are your reads? Aside from Klazam being scummy.

I think ab and camel are suspicious. What are your thoughts on them?

[Hu Tao]

Gut ping on the Abnegation unvote right after Leek mentioned a possible Drew/Leaf pairing because I earlier mentioned a possible Abneg/Drew pairing

Oh that's a good point

[Hu Tao]

reading rest,, liking klazam, agreeing with points,, obvtown, at least for me
supports theory hu tao has bad intentions, shrug
other “obvscum” players, case, ab,, seems like scummy town,, but i have bias xD

I think camel is town.

Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.

Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.

Klaz also town imo.

liking kitty for this, rest a blur

checking in, read/catch up coming soon)

Welcome!

ty for welcome xD VOTE: wolftao

VOTE: Klazam

I think they backed off after seeing people townread me and it didn't seem natural in the first place.

y’all not seeing this??? quoted to clarify,, still happy to park

v/la always,ping me/tag me/w/e,, kthxbaii

I'm sure they've seen it but just disagree. Usually I'm good with when people have a wrong read to be able to see if it makes sense and is genuine, but this just seems very forced.

[Hu Tao]

I like Nono's new posts.
KittyTacky said some things that resonated, in particular about how it's a fallacy that only scum care how they look. Not enough for a real townread, will need to see some evidence of trying to sort.
Geraintm took a poke or two but didn't really follow up that I can tell. I'd be willing to go there.

I'm not sure about Leek's motivation in asking about the list in the first place. It seems kinda weak to go after unproductive people. Not enough for a scumread, but definitely worth watching.

Nono's posts have just been saying that I'm scum. If you agree wouldn't you be saying I was scum? Don't think I've seen you say that

[Hu Tao]

Suspicious post. I think its too early for that.

[Hu Tao]

arko ok

arko didnt really do anything and nono is just voting hu tao

its weird that theyre really only focusing on hu tao and not acknowledging anyone else so nulltown

why is that nulltown?

ope exactly what i said lmao

tunnels arent alignment indicative (unless some other piece influences it)

doesnt seem forced, seems the exact opposite: relaxed

Disagree. The posts they are saying I'm scum for don't make sense. I've seen scum strategies where they scumread the towniest person and everyone thinks they are town that's misled. Getting vibes of that here.

[Hu Tao]

I like Nono's new posts.
KittyTacky said some things that resonated, in particular about how it's a fallacy that only scum care how they look. Not enough for a real townread, will need to see some evidence of trying to sort.
Geraintm took a poke or two but didn't really follow up that I can tell. I'd be willing to go there.

I'm not sure about Leek's motivation in asking about the list in the first place. It seems kinda weak to go after unproductive people. Not enough for a scumread, but definitely worth watching.

Nono's posts have just been saying that I'm scum. If you agree wouldn't you be saying I was scum? Don't think I've seen you say that

Like and agree are different things to me. And as I say a few posts later, it was in comparison to what the slot had done before that so maybe premature to even say I like it lol

[Hu Tao]

Dave I am safe locktowning imo.

Still don't like leek on a quick reskim.

What has Dave done?

[Hu Tao]

You can go me to 3-3 it up

I don't get the scumread people have on you

[Hu Tao]

fuck it this wagon is going nowhere

UNVOTE:

VOTE: BlackStar

Klazam (2): Hu Tao, Ame
camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, Klazam
Ame (2): geraintm, Doctor Drew
Flavor Leaf (1): Flavor Leaf
SzmarzLeek (1): KittyTacky
Kitty Tacky (1): SzmarzLeek
Doctor Drew (1): Blackstar
Hu Tao (1): Nono
BlackStar (1): camelCasedSnivy

Not voting (1): Abnegation

i dont like this VC but since ame literally just voted me i cant bring any wagon but myself to 3 so

This is so suss. There’s a 77.52% chance cCS is a maf

I think ccs could be scum but I don't think that's a sus post. Seems honest

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Kitty

Think I'll go here for now

[Hu Tao]

UNVOTE:
I feel like my opinions about everyone are flip-flopping like crazy from page to page. I'm already second-guessing everything lol.

Drew doesn't seem as scummy as I originally thought. Pretty much the only person who I haven't felt at least a little suspicious of so far is Hu Tao

[Hu Tao]

Flavor I'm not used to you being so passive. And it's worrying me. Maybe I'm overthinking

[Hu Tao]

Wait actually I remember you being passive day 1 before never mind

[Hu Tao]

Drew/Daves/cCS/nono are still the flips I want to see. I wouldn't go Daves today because of Kitty locktowning him. nono being a bugspray archetype changes things -- from scummy to eternal coin flip. I'm not sure there's a reliable way to read them. cCS is the most "this is a hit" feel.

Uh. I'd rather nono out of those 3 if you're removing Dave. I'm flipping back and forth with ccs

[Hu Tao]

Ame or Leek today for me is where I’m at

Definitely not Ame imo. I'm trying to find a compromise vote but it's hard, everyone wants someone different

[Hu Tao]

Drew/Daves/cCS/nono are still the flips I want to see. I wouldn't go Daves today because of Kitty locktowning him. nono being a bugspray archetype changes things -- from scummy to eternal coin flip. I'm not sure there's a reliable way to read them. cCS is the most "this is a hit" feel.

Uh. I'd rather nono out of those 3 if you're removing Dave. I'm flipping back and forth with ccs

cCS is almost a guaranteed hit (up from 77 to 79%). I'll vote with you though.

I'll mull it over. We still have time

[Hu Tao]

I'm fine with leek going today too BTW. I don't think I've seen any reason to town read them.

[Hu Tao]

I'm fine with leek going today too BTW. I don't think I've seen any reason to town read them.

I have seen a few things here and there that did town ping me.

My thing with you that’s messing with me, is that I have a tendency to town read Scum Tao, and scum read TownTao. So I’ll keep my eye on you, but I am town reading you, so

Tbf I think last game you townread the person I replaced more than me.

[Hu Tao]

I've slowed my posting in general. I felt I was controlling the game, and I wanted to see how things played out without me as involved.

[Hu Tao]

I would say that I don't like you're just trying to push it to the inactives. Also how I'm suddenly a yellow read for you just by simply stating I'd be okay with you voted out.

[Hu Tao]

Okay, what's your 2 biggest scumreads and town reads?

[Hu Tao]

what about you Hu Tao, gimme the same

Ame town is my strongest read. I would say FL being town is my 2nd. He seems to be similar to what I'm used to.

Scum I think I would say Klazam and Nono would be my top elims for today, but things can change.

[Hu Tao]

I've been skimming this game's logs lazily this day, I think I know enough to make a reads list, but tomorrow as it's late here, I'll sleep on my reads.

Shocking

[Hu Tao]

I've been skimming this game's logs lazily this day, I think I know enough to make a reads list, but tomorrow as it's late here, I'll sleep on my reads.

chat is this real

It's gotten to the point where I think it might be too scummy to be scum. But I don't know. Would they really keep doing it on purpose when they were called out on it?

[Hu Tao]

Actually

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

I think he's likely town. This is just how he is. Can I interest you in Nono?

[Hu Tao]

Hu are you open to Gera?

I think he had one thing I liked on tone early, but besides that he has done nothing. I would be fine with him gone if it comes to it

[Hu Tao]

how can you be so stubborn and tunneled?

First time playing with FL?

[Hu Tao]

reading now,,

honestly? still think people need to read hu tao,, personal feelings on that still strong
the case is, “pushing the game forward” was just busywork questioning
yes, sometimes town can do it but the point is there is no follow up, have not seen a genuine thought,, (whole iso: “why this”, *insert general comment*, *scumread because positioning over reasoning*) quote me wrong, I’ll wait
otherwise so much shading!! shading and no vote until kitty xD

curious on position on me, an elaboration
fmpov: positioning + adding on read came after ame = no bold townie points given
discounting bad intentions, just feels like hiding behind the latter, even now

drop in “enthusiasm” in recent days, i.e “pushing the game forward”,, explaining it as “wanting to see how the game progresses without me” is lol
more likely scum wanted early control but lost steam

all of the above: extending invitation for thought,, obvscum imo xD

if majority unwilling, then blackstar for me,, the classic “fade into background”
as for leek, snivy, have me fooled at least

Today I learned asking too many questions is scummy

[Hu Tao]

Lean town for Kitty tbh. I usually gut ping scum them when they’re scum, and most of the stuff is just Kitty. Happy they posting at all tbh

Are they known for not posting a lot or something? I think I've played one game with kitty but I can't remember.

[Hu Tao]

i remember one time that leaf said if hes scum he tries to go for town mislim day 1

that being said, he could be doing a gambit but i doubt it so if leek flips scum i give FL heaps of towncred

VOTE: Leek

?

This post makes no sense. Could see cCs scum here

[Hu Tao]

i remember one time that leaf said if hes scum he tries to go for town mislim day 1

that being said, he could be doing a gambit but i doubt it so if leek flips scum i give FL heaps of towncred

VOTE: Leek

Umm.....wouldn't any scum player want a town mislim on D1??

[Hu Tao]

Conf Town

- KittyTacky

Town

- davesaz
- camelCasedSnivy

Lean Town

- Abnegation
- Flavor Leaf
- Klazam
- Doctor Drew

Null/Neutral

- geraintm
- Nono
- Hu Tao
- BlackStar

Lean Scum

- Ame

Scum

- SzmarzLeek

Reason for Ame scum and me in null? Also curious on cCs placement

[Hu Tao]

Caught up but whole leek/Ame thing is confusing. I’ll need to reread when I’m sane.

Kitty’s putting off things yet again is zzzz

It’s kind of funny that you’re annoyed at Kitty putting things off but you’re doing the same thing lol

Good catch. Klazam is suspicious

[Hu Tao]

what about you Hu Tao, gimme the same

Ame town is my strongest read. I would say FL being town is my 2nd. He seems to be similar to what I'm used to.

Scum I think I would say Klazam and Nono would be my top elims for today, but things can change.

why am I scum to you, other than I scumread you, and your rebuttal to my post
genuine question, please answer)

I think I explained already but there is a scum strategy where you scumread tunnel the towniest person, and the rest of the town just sees you as misguided town. Looks like that, since your reasons for scumreading me I don't think make any sense.

[Hu Tao]

BlackStar
KittyTacky
Klazam
SzmarzLeek

Hu Tao
nono

geraintm

davesaz
Doctor Drew

camelCasedSnivy
Flavor Leaf
Abnegation

You went from saying you'd sheep me but don't have me as your highest Town read? That's suspect. Why not say you'd be voting with Black Star then? Also I don't get the kitty or klazam read at all

[Hu Tao]

What changed? Because your posts don't really indicate any of that

[Hu Tao]

What changed? Because your posts don't really indicate any of that

My view of nono and your post about why you weren’t posting.

Can you tell me what your view of nono is? Because I don't see any genuine solving there. And if you don't buy my reason for not posting, then that would mean you think I'm lying. Lying = scum. So why not have me lower?

[Hu Tao]

I should clarify, I don't see nono solving at all

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: nono

This is scum vote here

[Hu Tao]

I tracked KittyTacky last night to blackstar

VOTE: kirtytacky

VOTE: kitty

[Hu Tao]

I mean I have been dead wrong about such things but I doc not think I am here.

"doc" = this is a crumb. I'm doctor. I was on BlackStar. There must be a strongman or I was roleblocked.

Don't buy it. Odds of you being doc and someone roleblocking you is low imo.

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: wolf hutao
serious note: happy to vote kitty, trust gert w/e, but let me have this for now kek

going to sleep irl kbai

sure thing scum.

[Hu Tao]

If Kitty is town, Hu Tao is always scum based on ignoring strongman possibility.

But i think Kitty just is scum?

Ain't no way scum would strong arm kitty instead of just killing them if they saw the doctor soft if they were town.

[Hu Tao]

Town

geraintm - doesnt do this as scum, always town
Nono - stupid to go for Hu Tao OMGUS after the tracker guilty as scum, always town
Ame - Playing fully on emotion, stupid af as scum, it's possible, but I dont think they do this if they were really scum, most likely town.
Snivy - I think they're solving, and makes sense, even if they were wrong on Nono. I think most likely town.

Neutral

Klazam
Davesaz

Light Scum

Doctor Drew
Abnegation

Scum

Hu Tao
KittyTacky

If I'm wrong on Hu Tao, Abnegation is always scum, but I don't think I'm wrong on Hu Tao. I did get Drew/Abnegation pings, and I think Abneg is the most likely Drew partner if Drew is scum here.

If I am correct with Hu Tao/Kitty, I think one of Drew/Abnegation are partners with them.

One of my Neutrals can fill in if I'm wrong anywhere.

Geraint should track in one of Drew/Hu Tao, though.









- Flavor Leaf
- Hu Tao
- Abnegation
- davesaz
- BlackStar
- camelCasedSnivy
- Doctor Drew

[Hu Tao]

If Kitty is town, Hu Tao is always scum based on ignoring strongman possibility.

But i think Kitty just is scum?

Ain't no way scum would strong arm kitty instead of just killing them if they saw the doctor soft if they were town.

Strongarm just powers through protections, they don’t target the protector.

Oh right, I forgot about just strong arm. I was thinking about a role blocker. But why would a game have a strong arm and a doctor? Is that common?

[Hu Tao]

If Kitty is town, Hu Tao is always scum based on ignoring strongman possibility.

But i think Kitty just is scum?

Ain't no way scum would strong arm kitty instead of just killing them if they saw the doctor soft if they were town.

yeah, i'll retract that reasoning.

Unfortunate for you, I know you are scum, and unfortunate for me, I think you know why.

You're probably town. But this is funny.

[Hu Tao]

Kitty and Nono are scum. Not sure on the 3rd right now

[Hu Tao]

I am assuming I am dead overnight, I would pay more attention to today otherwise.

I wonder if I should have let kitty post a little before dropping my result. You'll have to tell me later if I played it as I should have

If I were you and had a guilty, I'd probably have softed it first. But to each their own

[Hu Tao]

[Hu Tao]

I'm cop. I have a guilty on nono since yesterday. I was roleblocked today. Think scum saw my guilty and roleblocked me.

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: nono

This is scum vote here

I am assuming I am dead overnight, I would pay more attention to today otherwise.

I wonder if I should have let kitty post a little before dropping my result. You'll have to tell me later if I played it as I should have

If I were you and had a guilty, I'd probably have softed it first. But to each their own

I tried not to make it too obvious but. Guess it didn't work.

VOTE: Nono

[Hu Tao]

Doc should just 50/50 between me and gera tonight. And I think we have the game won

[Hu Tao]

I don't think we need to mass claim. There is a likely doctor here and I don't think it's wise to out them since I got roleblocked and scum have a role blocker.

[Hu Tao]

I think we just vote and end day. And doc is on me or Gera.

[Hu Tao]

True, I'm assuming it was Gera though? Especially since I got blocked. I think doctor outing basically just gives scum an advantage.

[Hu Tao]

No mass claim. I think we just vote

[Hu Tao]

nah

hard claim I’m cop
hu tao is scum
Investigated abneg last night, was blocked

[Hu Tao]

Well, thank-you doc.

Yes, have the loud modifier so scum knew I had followed them so there was no way Kitty was going to blunder something interesting yesterday.
Sad that we both targeted thr same person

Just getting ducks lined up so I know where to limit my travels tonight

Me
Nono - cop
Abe - already checked and didn't move last night
Hu toa - guilty from nono

You known doc

Nothing else right?

I'm the actual cop. Check beginning of the day

[Hu Tao]

We aren't mass claiming

[Hu Tao]

Nice work everyone

[Hu Tao]

im scum cop xD

Spoiler: post flip

gl my team, don’t screw up, please)

You played well by the way

[Hu Tao]

OOPS. I fake claimed and kept it up since nono sounded scum. I'm actually a Miller. Don't be mad.

[Hu Tao]

I'm not scum. I'm town Miller. I just made a mistake. Let's vote outside me today. I'll try to find last 3 scum

[Hu Tao]

I was town. Good work everyone

[Hu Tao]

Good work everyone! This was a fun game. Special shot out to nono who scumread me when everyone else tr me.