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Post Post #1919 (isolation #200) » Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:36 am

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In post 1916, Dannflor wrote: never play survivor
I've made this mistake already 🤣
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Post Post #1933 (isolation #201) » Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:07 am

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In post 1923, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 1898, Hu Tao wrote: I am kinda worried about a Drew Dann FL team. But I suppose that can be resolved later.
I think I said this, or atleast referred to it multiple times today?
Did you arrive to this theory regardless of me bringing it up, and trying to show some of the angles, or did me bringing it up have an effect on you?
Serious question.
Well I already suspected Drew and Dann. FL has been steering the votes away from both
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Post Post #1934 (isolation #202) » Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:08 am

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In post 1930, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: gamma emerald whatever, this game was thoroughly unfun, I can at least take solace in not having to play it anymore
Well ok then...
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Post Post #1935 (isolation #203) » Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:09 am

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In post 1932, UnaBombaH wrote: And for what it's worth anymore - I meant it was a compromise because I'd have rather seem Hu Tao flipped. So compared to that, a compromise.
Tomorrow, I challenge you to make reads that are independent of me.
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Post Post #1937 (isolation #204) » Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:41 am

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Don't think una is scum
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Post Post #1939 (isolation #205) » Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:42 am

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VOTE: gamma just in case I guess
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Post Post #1953 (isolation #206) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:15 am

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In post 1948, marcistar wrote: also im confused, why did they kil; jjh when jjh dropped off massively? maybe some of the more townread people are scum LOL
I agree he fell off but he was pretty town when he tried.
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Post Post #1963 (isolation #207) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:51 am

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In post 1960, marcistar wrote: yeah im a loyal neighbourizer :(
Why would you claim this?
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Post Post #2071 (isolation #208) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:31 pm

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In post 1966, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1963, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1960, marcistar wrote: yeah im a loyal neighbourizer :(
Why would you claim this?
The message did say that come dawn my alignment would be known, does sound like a loyal role.....and I have been neighborized by her.

Pre Edit: But again though, who is the mailman?
I feel then she should have waited? I'm confused
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Post Post #2072 (isolation #209) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:33 pm

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In post 1990, Doctor Drew wrote: I am scary in non smart ways.

Hu Tao is the actual real scary one here lol.

Pre Edit: Is the alliance back on Fire?

VOTE: Gera
I'm not scum. No need to be scared here 🤞
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Post Post #2073 (isolation #210) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:35 pm

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In post 2024, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think it’s Mass Claim time.

@Hu Tao/Drew/Geraint - I tried doing this last game with us, and it got pushed aside where if we had, town would have been in a much better spot.

With Marco as a claimed Loyal Neighborizer, they can confirm townies, so it’s dangerous for scum to keep them alive.

This gives complete defense against all other claims, and we can play with a full puzzle.

This being said, I think we fade Marcistar TOMORROW, no matter if she successfully neighborizes or not to confirm if her results are trustworthy and to not let them slip through cracks.
It's nowhere near mass claim time :lol:
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Post Post #2075 (isolation #211) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:36 pm

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In post 2027, Flavor Leaf wrote: Oh we’re Day 2. Thought we were Day 3 and it just hadn’t been updated.

So yeah, you just die Day 3, which is fine, you go 1 for 1 and Drew would be not conf town after, so there’s play options there.
Okay I'll give it a pass since you thought it was day 3
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Post Post #2078 (isolation #212) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:38 pm

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Maybe tomorrow for mass claim. Not everyone has even checked in yet.
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Post Post #2081 (isolation #213) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:41 pm

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I'm indifferent on it right now, as I don't feel it's worth arguing over right now.
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Post Post #2090 (isolation #214) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:45 pm

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I'd rather scumhunt instead of worry about the claim that will likely resolve. Either way, I believe Marci for now
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Post Post #2302 (isolation #215) » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:08 am

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I'll get to this a bit later.
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Post Post #2315 (isolation #216) » Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:15 pm

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Thanks scum for killing Roden, I still wasn't sure about him. But begs the question why Roden over someone else. Also if scum have a cop, they must have not been getting anything good :lol: sorry for not being around end of last day, was a bit busy. Busy still and I'll reply to anything that is posted later tonight.
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Post Post #2445 (isolation #217) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:09 am

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In post 2317, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2315, Hu Tao wrote: Thanks scum for killing Roden, I still wasn't sure about him. But begs the question why Roden over someone else. Also if scum have a cop, they must have not been getting anything good :lol: sorry for not being around end of last day, was a bit busy. Busy still and I'll reply to anything that is posted later tonight.
Don’t like this post. Performative looking
Sure Jan
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Post Post #2446 (isolation #218) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:09 am

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In post 2318, Flavor Leaf wrote: Let’s mass claim, starting with Drew and Hu Tao, i would say, then we popcorn
I'm fine with claiming today I think. I'll post my claim when I fully catch up
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Post Post #2447 (isolation #219) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:10 am

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In post 2321, Flavor Leaf wrote: Una and Drew both have Traitor potential in this game now, though.

Idk, the way Una played looks bad, i just don’t think Una takes that approach as scum here and pushes Drew the way they did if Una was scum with Marcistar.
I think una is probably town. If they are traitor I'll be shocked.
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Post Post #2448 (isolation #220) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:11 am

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In post 2330, Dannflor wrote: I think nono is scum still
Big doubt
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Post Post #2449 (isolation #221) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:11 am

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In post 2344, Flavor Leaf wrote: im feeling Hu Tao/Nono right now
Surely :lol:
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Post Post #2450 (isolation #222) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:12 am

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In post 2351, Flavor Leaf wrote: Hu Tao
Flavor Leaf - Vanilla
Firebringer - Back up Mailman
Doctor Drew - ???? Neighbor
Dannflor
Nono
The Bulge
UnaBombaH
Geraint - ????? Neighbor
Is that fire claim not a joke?
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Post Post #2451 (isolation #223) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:14 am

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In post 2387, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 816, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 807, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: nono
I think Dann has turned my feelings on that slot around atp. I'm fine with voting nono or gera rn
imo nono is acting exactly like they were last game I was in with them and they are town.
In post 1036, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1031, Gamma Emerald wrote: I think nono’s “catch up” kinda sucked ass, looks barely interested in any slot that isn’t Hu Tao or Dannflor
That's just how nono posts in general
In post 1037, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: Gamma

All roads lead me back to this
Nono defenses leading into a Gamma chainsaw?

I also think Hu tao being aggressive towards Una Day 1 when Una pushes Hu Tao is kind of damning.


Agh. Hu Tao looks like theyre purposefully setting up connections with The Bulge. Gamma said they think Hu tao scum flip shows Bulge town flips, when I was reading it the other way, probably makes sense Gamma would be correct, and Hu Tao is actively tying themselves to Bulge?
This is so funny :lol:
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Post Post #2452 (isolation #224) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:15 am

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In post 2392, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2391, UnaBombaH wrote: I still think Traitor isn't a given, I'm disappointed how D2 went, and I'm honestly not liking Drews claim.
Unless my townread on gera is wrong, I think there's still a good chance for scum in FL/HuTao.
Gonna need those two cups of coffee first
There is 100% a traitor.

Also, you are disappointed that scum was limmed?
I'm actually thinking of leaning towards there not being a traitor. But hmm
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Post Post #2453 (isolation #225) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:18 am

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In post 2441, The Bulge wrote: that was maybe the least ordered readslist of all time lol

something like

drew
fl
una
gera
fb
hu tao
nono
dann
Girl if you're scum after I stuck my neck out for you I'd laugh. :dead:
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Post Post #2454 (isolation #226) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:18 am

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Okay so what are the claims?
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Post Post #2459 (isolation #227) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:35 am

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Okay then. I don't have time to really argue like I usually do, so I'll just claim. I'm a Mason
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Post Post #2467 (isolation #228) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:53 am

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In post 2460, UnaBombaH wrote: Oooooooooooooooooooo, spicy.
Assuming then that there is a paired claim to this? :]
I'll be waiting for the apology post game :wink:
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Post Post #2468 (isolation #229) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:54 am

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In post 2466, Doctor Drew wrote: Maybe Hu is the traitor and that is the message to the other scum?

The mason claim I mean
Yeah okay :lol:
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Post Post #2469 (isolation #230) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:55 am

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I totally missed Drew's claim.
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Post Post #2470 (isolation #231) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:56 am

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I'm a bit confused as to why town would need a pt cop when scum have a neighbor.
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Post Post #2473 (isolation #232) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:07 am

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I'll wait for the other claims
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Post Post #2483 (isolation #233) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:09 am

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I kinda think it's those 2 also.
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Post Post #2498 (isolation #234) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:16 pm

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I probably want fire today
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Post Post #2514 (isolation #235) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:52 pm

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In post 2513, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2512, Nono wrote: fire!scum pushing town unah, dan!scum pushing town bulge,, scum can’t bus today because it confirms me and hu tao
Why would scum buss in any scenario here?
To make it to end game. They already have the claims. But they can't now since they know it confirms us
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Post Post #2663 (isolation #236) » Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:29 am

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I'll catch up tomorrow
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Post Post #2695 (isolation #237) » Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:46 pm

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Who does everyone want to vote today
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Post Post #2702 (isolation #238) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 9:51 am

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The bulge could get voted just simply voting me after thinking I'm scum after my day 1 trying to save him and my mason claim. Don't have time for things like that as days go forward even if he is town. So include that in my vote pile. Fire, Dann, bulge. Probably scum in that
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Post Post #2729 (isolation #239) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:02 pm

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Something off about the FL/Dann/drew dynamic though. So I can see 2 scum in that too. Bulge, are you sure you scum read me?
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Post Post #2750 (isolation #240) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:39 pm

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If nono and I are alive with 5 remaining then you can consider us. Otherwise no.
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Post Post #2780 (isolation #241) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:18 pm

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In post 2768, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 175, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 112, Nono wrote: here, reading soon)
Hi, are you cop again? :wink:
Therefore, I do believe Nono is the Scum Cop here.

This is not something that a mason says to another mason like this. This is a Traitor wink.

VOTE: Nono
You should get voted out before us if we are playing optimally. I would prefer fire today.
VOTE: fire
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Post Post #2781 (isolation #242) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:19 pm

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Voting masons is literally the dumbest move.
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Post Post #2782 (isolation #243) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:29 pm

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I'm thinking fire and drew. Drew has just been sheeping all game
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Post Post #2896 (isolation #244) » Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:55 pm

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In post 2798, Dannflor wrote:
In post 2795, Flavor Leaf wrote: VOTE: Dannflor

Been waiting for someone to jump on me for literal days now. Outed scum.

you are making this up
:lol:

We vote fire or Drew imo
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Post Post #2899 (isolation #245) » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:01 pm

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In post 2840, Nono wrote:
In post 2826, Flavor Leaf wrote: why does Fire, as scum, not go for any of the wagons that get presented?
expressed interest/scumreads, no?

intuition: still townread bulges play,, effort not high but thought processes are sound, thought the same as them, often
vanilla claim at the time, good
In post 225, The Bulge wrote: jackson did a scum catchup
In post 227, The Bulge wrote: VOTE: jackson
so true,, and call out first post? fire!anti-partner unlikely
dan!anti-partner too, source: whole iso
if wrong, so sorry, but I’m fighting to save them)

intuition: fl’s play is annoying, but, can’t deny, towny,, hesitation in going for dan today, throughout game,, very tinfoil, they’re scum unwilling to bus before and for today,, was Marci a sacrifice? to test the theory, we go dan

fire also doesn’t go dan, una instead,, partner reads show dan as scum

maybe VOTE: dann better
I think I want fire first
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Post Post #2902 (isolation #246) » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:16 pm

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In post 2893, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2892, Flavor Leaf wrote: Hu Tao has to be scum if scum with Nono because Mason claim.
This is why I like limming NoNo or Hu, even if wrong it instantly clears the other.
No chance you believe this as town.
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Post Post #2903 (isolation #247) » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:17 pm

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In post 2898, Titus wrote:
In post 2896, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2798, Dannflor wrote:
In post 2795, Flavor Leaf wrote: VOTE: Dannflor

Been waiting for someone to jump on me for literal days now. Outed scum.

you are making this up
:lol:

We vote fire or Drew imo
Why?
I see them as most likely scum. Force scum to kill in masons
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Post Post #2904 (isolation #248) » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:18 pm

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If they kill outside masons it makes the game harder for them
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Post Post #2909 (isolation #249) » Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:56 pm

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In post 2908, Flavor Leaf wrote: My main reason for Mason fade is that both of their play throughout the game (bar Hu Tao day 1) has been extremely lacking. Maybe thats a plus towards Town Hu Tao.

If Fire is scum with like Dann, it doesn't make sense for them to not have piled onto Nono when Drew, Una, and I were there.
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Post Post #2937 (isolation #250) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:23 pm

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In post 2930, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2928, Titus wrote: I don't like how much we are talking about flipping for information. Drew masons and Dann have all been floated for information.
No, I think both 'Masons' have a good chance of flipping scum. If for whatever reason I am incorrect and one of them flips Mason, then in that scenario at least we have a conf town there going forward.
This is scum
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Post Post #2938 (isolation #251) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:24 pm

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In post 2936, Flavor Leaf wrote: can we just kill Nono and confirm masons today and then deal with the battle royale of the rest of us minus one tomorrow?

Dann should always be on Hu Tao if Nono flips town, forcing Dann to be killed if Hu Tao is to be.
This might be other scum for pushing this nonsense
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Post Post #2939 (isolation #252) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:26 pm

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I think scum is in fire Drew FL now
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Post Post #2940 (isolation #253) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:26 pm

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Think fire should go first
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Post Post #2943 (isolation #254) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:34 pm

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In post 2942, Nono wrote:
In post 2939, Hu Tao wrote: I think scum is in fire Drew FL now
they’re town traitors, rare role…

be here, few hours to share thoughts(
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Post Post #2944 (isolation #255) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:37 pm

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In post 2941, Nono wrote: drew’s town traitor,, I know, it’s sad, but I believe he believes in it x( fl too
In post 2927, UnaBombaH wrote: All of this has lead me to think that while my read on Drew has started to lean town more as the days go by, flipping them might give us the most useful info? :]
We'd be 100% certain there's a Traitor remaining, we'd have their results confirmed, and we'd get a solid peek at what the setup looks like really.

Thoughts?
terrible
una falling lower every day( think he’s taking advantage of town traitors
like “info”?? what???
In post 2936, Flavor Leaf wrote: can we just kill Nono and confirm masons today and then deal with the battle royale of the rest of us minus one tomorrow?

Dann should always be on Hu Tao if Nono flips town, forcing Dann to be killed if Hu Tao is to be.
you’ve already said it and refuted it yourself
what if dans scum (likely)
consider, you lim me, he “babysits” hu tao, someone else dies, e.g gert,, then what? back to square 1,, what’s achieved? nothing

in what world can’t you trust us until 5p, if we’re still here, I’ll lay down and die, you have my word
not even considering the setup!
the liars are outside of us, and imho, drew,, without us and him, the setup fails,, that’s the only conclusion of setup spec

calling in reinforcements, Hu Tao please save me,, going crazy in this traitorous town
If Drew is town like you say then Dann can only be traitor. So we would need to go for 2nd scum. Which is why I want fire regardless
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Post Post #2946 (isolation #256) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:49 pm

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In post 2945, Flavor Leaf wrote: Notice the activity by the Masons as soon as they are about to get steam on them.

It's literally just them.

It was literally BOTH of them coming in. after theyve both been mia since the heat on them died down from when they claimed originally.
Yeah. We were plotting with the no day talk we have. And telepathically agreed to post now
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Post Post #2954 (isolation #257) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 5:13 pm

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If Drew is town I might eat my sock
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Post Post #2956 (isolation #258) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 5:18 pm

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If you're town. Explain to me in detail your thought process
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Post Post #2963 (isolation #259) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:33 pm

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Nice fake rage to find a reason to vote Mason scum
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Post Post #2966 (isolation #260) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:09 pm

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I've given reasons all game as to who I think is town or scum. You're making up narratives
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Post Post #3081 (isolation #261) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:28 pm

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In post 3077, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2966, Hu Tao wrote: I've given reasons all game as to who I think is town or scum. You're making up narratives
if im making up a narrative then it would be easy to disprove by quoting ur own posts to show how i am wrong. my claim is your not doing anything. How am i supposed to show evidence of that if your iso is devoid of it.
do i just link quote all your posts of ur lack of solving.

this is again u trying to throwing others to do things instead of u. If ur town here ur being so god damn lazy.
Throughout the game I've said who I townread thus leaving a few
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Post Post #3095 (isolation #262) » Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:37 pm

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In post 3093, UnaBombaH wrote: Oh, the day is still going.
Are we going to get anyone other than me today?
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Post Post #3096 (isolation #263) » Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:38 pm

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In post 3092, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3085, Dannflor wrote: firebringer how do u propose this setup works without the masons
In post 3086, Dannflor wrote: make it make sense to me
ur barking up the wrong tree here. I already asked flavor this before and I still think this setup doesn't make sense without masons.

I don't particularly care right now on setup wise.
if i was going on setup design i would move back to Unabom or you.

I want Hua Tao to effort here. The way playing is extremely lazy and thats coming from me who is already known as a lazy player.
My activity is nai at the moment. I cannot post much more than I already am, trying my best.
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Post Post #3097 (isolation #264) » Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:40 pm

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I don't see una as scum. And for una to be scum fire would have to be scum since he's back up mail man. Correct? There can't be a town mailman and a back up mailman that's scum. So if you scumread una you should scumread fire regardless
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Post Post #3105 (isolation #265) » Fri Nov 03, 2023 2:38 pm

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In post 3100, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3097, Hu Tao wrote: I don't see una as scum. And for una to be scum fire would have to be scum since he's back up mail man. Correct? There can't be a town mailman and a back up mailman that's scum. So if you scumread una you should scumread fire regardless
good then maybe you should help me buss Una.

also ur posting frequency isnt' my problem. Its the lack of effort into those posts
I think you just aren't reading my posts. I clearly said I don't think it's una.
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Post Post #3106 (isolation #266) » Fri Nov 03, 2023 2:53 pm

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Cam we get a vc
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Post Post #3108 (isolation #267) » Fri Nov 03, 2023 2:59 pm

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I think there is no way scum don't kill a Mason tonight. Looking at game state if we vote out a scum tomorrow and they haven't killed a Mason. I think they just lose
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Post Post #3120 (isolation #268) » Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:43 pm

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In post 3114, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 175, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 112, Nono wrote: here, reading soon)
Hi, are you cop again? :wink:
This just looks like a Traitor winking at their group scum Cop, and i can’t shake it.

This was such a safe thing to claim too and wink at it like that.
This is disingenuous since you know what happened last game
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Post Post #3121 (isolation #269) » Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:58 pm

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In post 3117, Flavor Leaf wrote: Okay, yeah, I’m okay with taking out a Mason today, then if it’s town it leaves

Dann
Titus
FL
Drew
Una
Geraint
Firebringer
Nono or Hu Tao

Dann should always be on Nono or Hu Tao if Mason is real, and then if Dann is scum, they can’t kill conf townie. And if scum wants to kill conf townie if dann is town, they have to get rid of Dann as a misfade

Which means worst case scenario we are

Una
FL
Titus
Drew
Geraint
Firebringer

In a 4-2 scenario.

Yeah, that’s a fine scenario, and we can play that 6.

If Dann doesn’t die, and Nono lives, then it’s indicative of Dann scum, so fade Dann in that day.

In that scenario, worst case Dann flips town, we have one less misfade possibility, then Nono dies next night, and we’re in final 5 with:

FL
Titus
Firebringer
Una
Doctor Drew
Geraint

Minus 1. In a 3-2 scenario.

And you play the game there.

That is worst case scenario going a Mason today, and I almost think I prefer that even if Masons are real?

It gets rid of Mason WIFOM completely, and we get to play the end game still.
This scenario is literally worst for town. 6 with 2 scum. Rather than the other strategy where it is 5 with 2 scum if we don't hit scum and masons remain.
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Post Post #3122 (isolation #270) » Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:59 pm

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If you're town and you don't see this I don't know what else to tell any of you
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Post Post #3143 (isolation #271) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:53 am

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Nono Dann and Titus are you 3 willing to fire today or no. I need to know now
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Post Post #3144 (isolation #272) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:57 am

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Keeping babysitter alive potentially just wins us the game even if we misvote here. Assuming there is 1 traitor. Dann is said to not be in a PT there is no reason to vote him today. If you think Drew is town then Dann shouldn't even be the vote today with 9 remaining
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Post Post #3145 (isolation #273) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:58 am

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I don't see the point of a back up mailman in setup spec
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Post Post #3147 (isolation #274) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:13 pm

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If you agree with that take, you should be of the take that masons shouldn't be voted until final 5 if no scum is gone. There are 3 chances to kill scum there. By voting then out now, tomorrow or by babysitter. Which would confirm 2 people as town.
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Post Post #3148 (isolation #275) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:16 pm

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Once one scum dies 2 people are confirmed town. And there is no chance for us town to lose before 2 days from now so there is literally no downside to not voting in masons.
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Post Post #3152 (isolation #276) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:28 pm

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I refuse to believe FL would be having this take as town. He could just be open wolfing. He's been trying to go the suboptimal routes all game
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Post Post #3153 (isolation #277) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:28 pm

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In post 3149, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3145, Hu Tao wrote: I don't see the point of a back up mailman in setup spec
Same time, i don’t see why scumFire claims that
Safe to claim a back up of an already confirmed role
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Post Post #3160 (isolation #278) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:38 pm

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In post 3157, Flavor Leaf wrote: Fmpov, you need Firebringer dead as scum because you’re more likely to skate by because of lack of vote pressure on you when fire dies.
This is false because I was pushing fire BEFORE they started scum reading me. So another false narrative by you :roll:
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Post Post #3161 (isolation #279) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:40 pm

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In post 3158, Flavor Leaf wrote: Nono made the call to go Dann or Fire today.

I am alright with Dann, and think that is the best one if we aren’t checking Fire.
Going Dann is suboptimal because of the drew claim that he's not in a PT. If you tr Drew why are you going for only potential traitor and not scum?
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Post Post #3162 (isolation #280) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:44 pm

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In post 3159, Flavor Leaf wrote: Convenient how you wanna use a case like “terrible claim” for Firebringer but when Marci was obv af scum you wanted to “let it resolve”

Yeah, no

You’re doing everything you can to make sure masons make it to elo

And it either requires us to follow town Hu Tao who’s been absent since day 1 or possible scum who conveniently claimed Masons when they were getting called the scum team.
Wrong. Every post me and nono have had with each other we've called each other town. So you're saying we were planning to be masons since day 1? With no chat? Since you're saying 1 of us us traitor.
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Post Post #3163 (isolation #281) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:48 pm

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In post 297, Hu Tao wrote: Flavor Leaf - lean towards liking but unsure yet
JacksonVirgo - not sure
jjh927 - liking for town
marcistar - I like their posting not sure if I townread yet
geraintm - unsure how to read
Gamma Emerald - disliking at the moment
Doctor Drew - seems similar to usual, so possibly town
Xegarus - unsure
Nono - low posts, but they did that as town last time. Posts also seem same pattern as last time but still too early.
The Bulge - unsure
Roden - didn't like the post I quoted earlier, seemed weird to point that out instead of asking the reason for the new vote.
UnaBombaH - possibly my biggest town read.
In post 404, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 345, Nono wrote: thinking back, maybe flavour wouldn’t be so on the nose with a signal,, the lack of thought/backtrack was clumsy xD can see it as a classic fl move done thoughtlessly,, lean town
but this is still scummy
In post 77, jjh927 wrote: I'm gonna say Hu Tao reacted on instinct in a way that is more likely to come from town
Drew looks town off of it to me for similar reasons
Una is putting in some effort but not getting anything off of it yet
Gera looks like someone who will be very easy for me to place later despite not giving substantial content
i.e: sounds like a whole lot of saying something to look like something even though it points out nothing about no one in particular xD
marcistar has Hu Tao vibes from last game) iykyk, although more in your face so a little unsure how much is personality
remember disliking before, its still bothering me now
can go there, jv’s caught on too,, that was a good post
liking jv, bulge, off the top of my head

still continuing to read ty ty
After last game, if nono scumreads someone hard, I'm going to have to look into the person they scumread. :lol:
In post 780, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 673, Dannflor wrote: i have skimmed and mostly caught up

town: flavor leaf, una, jjh, marcistar, jacksonvirgo, gamma emerald

the remainder is largely unsorted, but if you put a gun to my head right now and told me to put a gun to someone else's head i would go VOTE: nono
That's a lot of town reads for skimming
In post 816, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 807, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: nono
I think Dann has turned my feelings on that slot around atp. I'm fine with voting nono or gera rn
imo nono is acting exactly like they were last game I was in with them and they are town.
In post 1036, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1031, Gamma Emerald wrote: I think nono’s “catch up” kinda sucked ass, looks barely interested in any slot that isn’t Hu Tao or Dannflor
That's just how nono posts in general
In post 1161, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1141, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1137, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1100, UnaBombaH wrote: In my books, if there is not at least one scum in Hu Tao / marcistar / Flavor Leaf I feel like I need to apologize afterwards. :lol:
Don't see that being the case in here at all though.
From the looks of it now, be ready to apologize. I'll be expecting it post game :lol:
Who are your townreads atp?
Flavor Leaf
jjh927
marcistar - on tone
Gera - slightly not sure
Doctor Drew - slight on tone
Nono
UnaBombaH - I'm hot and cold on this one tbh. I can't tell but either way don't want them today.
In post 1478, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1477, jjh927 wrote: If you think I'm wrong here then the obvious answer is just to go for Nono

If I'm wrong then that's obviously where I am wrong
I think you vote Dann then. Time is running out. Doubt you'll get a nono wagon.
In post 1485, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1481, The Bulge wrote: a nono town flip would mean a wasted d1
Agreed. Plus nono is acting 100% like past game when she was town
In post 1486, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1483, marcistar wrote:
In post 1472, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1462, marcistar wrote: I think the bugle x tao theory is the dumbest thing ive seen this game
Are you willing to vote Dan or drew?
Eh prob

I dont wanna vote nono but ill also vote there if i have to
Tho im confused why i havent seen jacksonvirgo post for awhile are they lurking scum!??!
I think Dann is the best vote then
In post 1488, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1480, Dannflor wrote: VOTE: nono
This is like his 5th different vote in the past few pages BTW. :lol:
All these posts are directly or indirectly saying nono is town. All from day 1
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Post Post #3164 (isolation #282) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:53 pm

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I wouldn't be opposed to going Gera as a compromise vote I suppose since I don't think they've done much regardless
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Post Post #3176 (isolation #283) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 1:57 pm

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In post 3173, Flavor Leaf wrote: Hu Tao protecting Dann is not a good look for them either.

Dann should only be able to use their Loyal Babysit if a Mason is faded today, and on a Mason.

Other wise, it’s just added WIFOM.

ScumNono/Hu Tao kill Dann for a double kill making tomorrow MELO, and it ignores the 3-2 scenario completely that Hu Tao was talking about.

Imo, only a Mason or Titus/Dann should be faded for real today.
Protecting him when I wanted and pushed him all day 1 :lol:
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Post Post #3232 (isolation #284) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:52 am

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In post 3190, Nono wrote: hu tao just vote dan please
i think fl is town

fire, irony much??
Voting Dann is just suboptimal based on claims though. It's annoying that no one can agree
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Post Post #3233 (isolation #285) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:54 am

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In post 3205, Flavor Leaf wrote: @Nono - the Mason paranoia comes with your play almost more than the claim itself.

The two of you are playing in a very weird way. I would rather you two play and give actual reads and analysis rather than play to confirm yourself.

It just feels like you’re trying to hold out to survive in other ways, where if I’m right with Titus, it just clears you anyways.
We both agree on fire but no one else is voting fire. It has nothing to do with saving ourselves, otherwise I'd just vote whatever wagon
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Post Post #3234 (isolation #286) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:58 am

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In post 3209, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3205, Flavor Leaf wrote: @Nono - the Mason paranoia comes with your play almost more than the claim itself.

The two of you are playing in a very weird way. I would rather you two play and give actual reads and analysis rather than play to confirm yourself.

It just feels like you’re trying to hold out to survive in other ways, where if I’m right with Titus, it just clears you anyways.
This.

The masons are playing like they are cosplaying as scum.

And they don't seem to be the displaying the typical townie frustration while being scum read when you feel you are clearly town.
Slip? :wink:

But really, I don't get this at all. We are trying to vote who we want. You are the ones pushing on us over it. Also I've explained over and over why voting in masons today or even tomorrow us suboptimal. Even in the unlikely scenario where both masons make to final 5 we are locked together. It is up to the last town to decide at that point if the other 2 scum make sense. Makes less team options for town to figure out.
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Post Post #3235 (isolation #287) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:59 am

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In post 3219, UnaBombaH wrote: What I would love to see first though, is nono and Hu Tao committing to a shared read.
They are still split on two targets like scumsters trying to distance from each other, instead of trying to work together WHICH IS WHAT THEY SHOULD BE 100% DOING if they are indeed Masons together..right? :]
Are you reading? We both agree on fire
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Post Post #3237 (isolation #288) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:00 am

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And that post doesn't make sense. If we were scum we would be trying to work together too. So..? :lol:
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Post Post #3238 (isolation #289) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:01 am

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In post 3224, Flavor Leaf wrote: it's literally just me, Firebringer, and Drew doing anything this game.
If you 3 are all town this game I'll apologize but I just don't see it at the moment. I'm still working on my town game but based on all the knowledge I have the vote should be fire since other things will resolve eventually especially with a night kill.
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Post Post #3241 (isolation #290) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:09 am

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:facepalm:
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Post Post #3242 (isolation #291) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:10 am

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I'm sorry but it's really hard to find town this game since day 1. Maybe I'm not doing something right in reading.
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Post Post #3246 (isolation #292) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:58 am

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In post 3244, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 3242, Hu Tao wrote: I'm sorry but it's really hard to find town this game since day 1. Maybe I'm not doing something right in reading.
Your scumreads start and end with firebringer/Dann, no?
Fire, drew, FL, Dann. I haven't ruled our Gera either
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Post Post #3247 (isolation #293) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:58 am

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In post 3245, UnaBombaH wrote: Like if you are really a mason, and you have ONE locktown to build upon, you should be in a unique position to be able to have read interactions as an informed party?
And you should've been able to discuss things every night with nono anyway?
So how come you then have only 1/2 people you actively scumread and are willing to vote, but next say you find it difficult to find town this game?
This isn't true.
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Post Post #3285 (isolation #294) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:25 pm

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In post 3249, UnaBombaH wrote: Also you haven't ruled out gera as scum, but you have ruled out Titus (Bulge)?
In your tunnel of me all day 1 did you even read me? I'm the one who tried to stop bulge from being voted out
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Post Post #3297 (isolation #295) » Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:49 pm

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Thank you for voting out literally my only town read. :roll:
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Post Post #3298 (isolation #296) » Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:50 pm

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Also Dann you were supposed to be on FL. What happened?
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Post Post #3305 (isolation #297) » Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:57 pm

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In post 3299, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 149, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 5, JacksonVirgo wrote: VOTE: Flavor Leaf

mwah
In post 103, JacksonVirgo wrote: Was gonna catch up, but today feels like a lazy day so ig not
Ahhh! I am the ultimate jackass of all time.

2 posts!!!

I won't let this happen again
In post 2578, Doctor Drew wrote: A tracker would have been nice for this night phase if don't nail scum here.
So I wasn't completely truthful with my claim, I am a JOAT.

One shot PT Cop, One shot Traitor Finder, One shot Tracker.

I tracked Fire to Flavor last night.

VOTE: Fire
Fire is scum? Who would have thought :roll:
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Post Post #3306 (isolation #298) » Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:58 pm

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In post 3302, Nono wrote: fire/dan for real??

let’s wait and talk, but Dan today please
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Post Post #3307 (isolation #299) » Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:59 pm

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Let's wait for everyone to talk. No one vote please. Since masons are confirmed town now since there is a confirmed scum in drew/fire cause of the guilty.
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Post Post #3308 (isolation #300) » Thu Nov 09, 2023 2:01 pm

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Why didn't scum just kill someone else though? If Dann is traitor, fire should have just killed someone like Gera.

What is the likelihood of 3 scum and 1 traitor?
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Post Post #3339 (isolation #301) » Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:03 pm

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In post 3337, UnaBombaH wrote: Well what do you know.
Drews claim was bullshit.
? That's your take in all this?
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Post Post #3350 (isolation #302) » Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:53 pm

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Has everyone talked?
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Post Post #3359 (isolation #303) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:41 am

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VOTE: fire

Time to vote
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Post Post #3360 (isolation #304) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:43 am

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Need 1 more fire vote
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Post Post #3436 (isolation #305) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:47 pm

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In post 3377, Dannflor wrote: fire nation with danny boi loses :(
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Post Post #3437 (isolation #306) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:08 pm

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In post 3432, Nono wrote: fire, im insulted, a privilege)
ggwp all, was frustrating at times, but ended on a high
ty for having my back hu tao, good to have you
Your reads are always so good. I'm impressed
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Post Post #3438 (isolation #307) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:10 pm

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Gg all. Sorry if I got frustrated. And I do need to work on explaining my reads better. Thanks for the game Alisae~

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