Mini 993: The Kids Don't Like It - Game Over.

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I am V/LA

weekly

, from Friday afternoon/evening until Saturday night.

You are warned.

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Oh man, I don't need two people posting only in caps lock the whole game...

Vote: Ellibereth

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Unvote
Vote: Fate

That's L-2. Claim tiem.

vote Seraphim

Only person I've seen ask someone to claim at L-2 was my scumbuddy in an old game.

And I bet that wasn't on page one.

Unvote; Vote: Seraphim

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Fate, how much can you move your vote around?

Three votes in a row on page two, with four to lynch. (YESS! I love being a jester!)

Kitty, we're all insane to some degree. To insanity and beyond!

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WHAT IS GOING ON!??!?!

POM DID YOU DO THIS?

I KNEW THERE WERE SECRET ROLES!

UNVOTE:
VOTE: POM

Um, Fate, Might Orbots is a hydra belonging to Zorblag and Papa Zito, so I'm not sure how Zorblag posting under a different account makes me scum. If you were wondering, my question about your votes was rhetorical.

Seraphim: What question? I'll check back.

Ellibereth and Fate are town. KittyMo is almost certain town.

Why? And why am I scum if Kitty is town?

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Will post tonight. Was busy for the past day.

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Okay, so I'm going to type my honest thoughts. I hope I don't ramble.

I find this game extremely hard to follow. Players like Fate and Elli, who don't explain very much (even though they usually have reasons, I'd say) are hard to follow. It's okay when there are enough other players who state rational opinions, but in a game of this size, having half the posts in all caps lock, not making much sense (or even being game related... who the hell

cares

what a Nacho-mamma is?) is making this very hard for me. I ask questions but I don't get answers. I posts something and I'm called scum, and I can't figure out why, even when I ask.

(Yeah, I guess all of that was appealing to your emotion. But I don't really care what anyone will say in that regard, because I just need to explain how frustrated I am with this game.)

So, if anyone cares, could someone (or everyone on my wagon, while I'm assuming that people will listen) explain why they think I'm scum?

(Kitty: You are the youngest? When's your birthday?)

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You are scum for dodging questions(you still haven't answered mine) and bandwagoning me for incredibly weak reasons. You said you would answer my question. Here it is again. Was your initial vote on me serious or not?

It was slightly serious, but not entirely.

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(or even being game related... who the hell cares what a Nacho-mamma is?)

(or even being game related

game related

(Kitty: You are the youngest? When's your birthday?)

(Kitty: You are the youngest? When's your birthday?)

(Kitty: You are the youngest? When's your birthday?)

(Kitty: You are the youngest? When's your birthday?)

(Kitty: You are the youngest? When's your birthday?)

(Kitty: You are the youngest? When's your birthday?)

(Kitty: You are the youngest? When's your birthday?)

(Kitty: You are the youngest? When's your birthday?)

(Kitty: You are the youngest? When's your birthday?)

(Kitty: You are the youngest? When's your birthday?)

VOTE: POMEGRANITE

You are entirely missing the point.

(BUT, I think I am younger than Kitty. Feb. 5, 1996. But I will stop with that, as Fate's point is fair enough, I guess, however much he's ignoring the rest of my post.)

EDIT: Seraphim, I'd say that scum are within Fate, Kitty, and Nacho, but I'm not

entirely

confident in my reads.

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Somewhat. Fate is going to far in not explaining himself or making sense, Kitty doesn't seem to be doing much of anything serious to me, and the same for Nacho. And gut, especially for Fate. There's a fairly accurate summary.

For now, I will

Vote: Fate

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(My post was answering Seraphim.)

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Pom, let us combine our forces for a Nacho lynch.

I don't think Fate is scum based on his ignorance of the open set-up. Unless you think he faked that?

I wouldn't put it past him. But Nacho is good.

Unvote; Vote: Nacho

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Okay.

So many posts are going up so quickly...

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Wasn't Pom voting you before she apparently got a town read on you and started following you around?

And that was what, on the beginning of page two? And only partly serious at that. Fate, don't misrep me

too

blatantly.

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Point out the misrep scum.

We can go back to lynching you at the drop of a fuckin HAT so don't even cross swords with me.

You implied that I seriously found Seraphim to be scum, and then suddenly agreeing with him on Nacho. Happy?

Get the hell off your high horse Fate.

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(Whoa. Swearing at Fate gives me a

very

satisfying feeling.)

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Vote still stands. One if not both of SSK/Nacho is scum.

I doubt both.

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that's why mason is one of the most bomb roles ever. because you get to do that AND be town

One time I was a confirmed mason-vig with Elli. Funzies.

(Kind of irrelevant, but it gave me an insight to his meta, that he has more thought out than what meets the eye. It helps me when I play with him, because I feel I know him a bit better.

But the thought of Elli-scum is a bit frightening.)

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Unvote, Vote: Seraphim

First off, he sets up ignorance of the setup as a towntell here: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p2334114

then claims that he forgot scum have daytalk.

Then, he says things like this: "If I wanted them lynched now, I would. But I don't. ", when it's already been proven a lie because

he already tried to bait Fate into hammering me.

Finally, he only remember's Pom's meta after she starts buddying with him...



Unfortunately, I'm going to have to rethink the Seraph deal because he did do something that I thought was town earlier, but his attack on me right now is just reasonless garbage. I'm probably just pissed off because he's attacking me, so I'm gonna go to sleep now, reread all... 7 pages of the game, and come back with a verdict tomorrow. Don't do any stupid shit while I'm gone.

I don't think either of the bolded happened; you are confusing me.

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Pom, why do you think that I'm scum?

Well, less so now than before, but it was mainly because you weren't be very serious once to RVS was clearly over (IIRC), and then you started lurking.

And kind of separately, what you said about baiting

Okay, maybe baiting was the wrong word. Trapping's a better one. It's early day 1 and I haven't been posting a whole lot of content, so Fate most likely doesn't have the strongest of reads on me. You're essentially daring him to hammer "Nacho's at L-1 and you're a crazy guy, why aren't you hammering?", and making him look bad pretty much no matter what he does.

He hammers and I'm town, thus he's scum for quickhammering a townie and expecting to get away with it just because you told him to.
He hammers and I'm scum; doesn't make him townie since you dared him to do it, and he was probably bussing because he was backed into a corner.
He doesn't hammer and I turn up town: Doesn't look good initially since it goes against his personality; he knew he'd look bad if he hammered and I turned up town, so that's why he went against his meta.
He doesn't hammer and I'm scum: He was refusing to hammer his partner.

doesn't make enough sense to me.

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It makes PERFECT sense, he read it the same way I did and I am town so so is NACHO.

Nacho just needs to wake up and realize SERAPH DIDNT MEAN IT THAT WAY, HE MEANT IT AS A WAY TO UNDERSTAND FATE AND HIS EARLIER UNVOTE. MOVE ON PLEASE.

It made sense, but what Seraphim asked obviously wasn't meant to bait you in that way. What didn't make sense that Seraphim would mean it in that way.

(We kind of agree for once. Something must be up.)

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no not quite

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Here.

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ELLIE I ONLY UNVOTE SSK BECAUSE I HAD VOTED HIM JUST FOR LURKING.

I WAS WRONG ABOUT THAT.

HE STILL DESERVES ROPE FOR THE SHIT HE POSTS WHEN HE DOES POST THOUGH, SO I'M STILL DOWN.

All the Caps Lock doesn't make it a better post, and it's starting to hurt my eyes.

Also,

Weekly V/LA

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But

Vote: Pomegranate

because hypocrisy pisses me off.

Huh? (Okaaaay...)

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More serious catchup post tomorrow. And Kitty, you seemed confused by my weekly V/LA. What's the issue?

And

Unvote

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and I also have no idea why MafiaSSK/seraphim/pom/nacho all manage to be at almost exactly the same level of scumminess, varying slightly every time I read the thread

I'll hammer SSK tho but I want him to come back because if he's scum I want him to out his buddies and if he's town maybe he'll say something cool and awe-inspiring and truthful idk

hre I'd better post this before...iedk what

So then. I do believe I deserve this lynch. Nothing I can do to prevent this from happening. But ooh shiny button!VOTE: kittymo

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VOTE: MafiaSSK

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Okay, I'll wait for it.

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We have six people alive. Three of them post only in capital letters.

Soon I will physically not be able to read this thread.

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Scum only have a NK once a goon is lynched. Or if we NL.

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I would consider a Nacho lynch. Or maybe... Kitty? I'm not sure.

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*vote, I think, instead of lynch, but it doesn't fit the sentence. Oh well.

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WAIT A SECOND.

ITS MY BIRTHDAY AND I DON'T GET A LITTLE HAT THING?


WHAT THE FUCK MITH?

And it's my (

first

) scumday and I don't either? (But I always thought it was cake with a candle...?)

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(Seriously Pom you didn't comment on her at ALL so now you HAVE to bus in her your next post in order to have any cred D3)

Isn't Elli a guy?

I'll definitely think about it, will get back to you about it tomorrow (IRL).

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I'll definitely think about it, will get back to you about it tomorrow (IRL).

What, did I not follow what I said? The day is not yet over.

Scumlist

:
1. Nachomamma8 (I mentioned that I found you scummy earlier today, so don't even try to play the OMGUS card. What have you done this game? Very very little.)
2. Ellibereth (I'm scum because I joined an RVS wagon? Yeah right.)
2. KittyMo (I dunno, you're not doing much IMO, but more so, my gut says you're scum.)
3. Fate (I think he's town now, despite what I thought yesterday... I feel like he convinced me somehow)
3. Seraphim (I still am not sure why people think he's scum, but... same as Fate)

Numbers indicate level of scumminess- Elli and Kitty are equal, as are Fate and Seraphim.

Nacho, why didn't you vote me?

VOTE: Nacho. Fate, I would still consider voting Elli.

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Nacho makes enough sense... lemme think about this.

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(^^^ I'm not talking about the part where Elliscum plays jester to get his buddy a NK, but basically the rest of it.)

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No, I agree that a goon might play jester.

But I'm not sure if I think it's you.

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Kitty, I'd say that it's more in the numbers than the players.

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Well Kitty, what I meant by

Kitty, I'd say that it's more in the numbers than the players.

was that the goon probably wouldn't get himself lynched because he and his buddy wanted to NK specific players, but because the way the numbers work, it would probably be better for scum to lose a goon but have the NK.

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Hai people. I'm back, but will be away again tomorrow.

So I was planning on hammering Elli upon my return, but it looks like Kitty did it for me.

So it's me, Fate, Nacho, and Kitty. Hmm.

So, I think we should No-Lynch. I think whoever is killed will give a lot of information for tomorrow. 1/3 as opposed to 1/4, I think it makes the most sense. Thoughts on NL?

And see- I knew Seraphim was town.

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Good lord Pomegranate you suck so much ass as town.

No lynching=Fate dead=game lost.

But this is one of those rare instances where you're lucky as hell I'm familiar with your "I never really do anything notable as town" meta

Hehe, my meta... it definitely helps that you know it....

I still think we NL, and you make sure to say everything you think if you're so paranoid that you'll be killed. Waiting for Kitty and Nacho to give opinions.

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@Pom: I don't want to no-lynch solely because I think that 3p LyLo is too much pressure on whoever is left alive out of you/Kitty, and it's harder for scum to make bullshit answers to questions coming from 3 angles as opposed to 2...

That's a stupid reason not to NL. I would definitely find it easier. And who said that scum would kill one of Me and Kitty?

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There's no way that Fatescum would kill me.

There's no way that Fatetown would push a case like this on me.

So, why would it be easier for you to figure out the scum if Kitty died? And why do you think it would be easier for Kitty to figure out the scum if you died?

Well, for starters, I'd know that Kitty isn't scum. And I could lynch you without doubting myself.

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Why are you doubting yourself now?

Well, every time I decide that you must be scum, a voice in the back of my head says it's possible Kitty is scum, but I've never played with her before. And I don't see what's wrong with No-Lynching, and getting more information from the kill. I don't really see a downside right now.

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Vote: No Lynch

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Fate, it does make me feel better. Don't worry though, we

will

be lynching Nacho tomorrow. It's all good.

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You're not so bad afterall then, Pom <3

Thank for noticing. Occasionally I'm bearable.

yay <3

Thank you Kitty for that last vote.

(Fate: Kitty and I are young teenage girls about the same age. How can you be surprised?)

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And we wait for Troll. So we can lynch Nacho already.

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I am bored with this.

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Well, I might go to sleep. But probably not.

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Kitty's in an earlier timezone than me. Unfair.

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At the end there I was in too much suspense. I was mad that Kitty didn't throw down a vote already. And that Fate didn't hammer immediately. Especially since Nacho was obvscum, after killing one of the players committed to lynching him the next day.

Fate, that was a lot of fun. I would have been

fuming

if you were scum with Elli though, and had gotten me to trust you (and then you would have gloated about it post-game). And I liked the way you trusted me at the end there.

This game was fast paced, but SO much fun. I loved it, and I think I liked it better with only 7 players. I have to say though, I had no ideadwho was scum and who was town D1; I just couldn't get any reads down.

Zorblag: I think the way kills worked fit the game nicely, and would have been underpowered for scum otherwise.

That was such an awesome game.

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Pom will be harder to lynch in lylo and all that me thinks.

Why? It's not usually very hard to lynch me, and I'm surprised you didn't really try to this game.

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So why would it be harder to lynch me in Lylo- because I was acting less scummy than usual?