Mini 301: Berry Kingdom Mafia II -- (Game Over!!)

[Lloyd]

Daykill: TheCesspit

Vote: Cherry

[Lloyd]

Haha, you're serious Lloyd?

Of course! 8)

Execute: ziliu

Huh? Help me out here, is Lloyd saying I'm daykilled, or just suggesting it? Why?

Shouldn't you confess to be a Mafia by now?

If you are town, don't bother claiming at all, because you will make me look bad

What's a bolded daykill?

A kill that happens during the day. Here are some examples:

Bad Idea Mafia game

Killer7 Mafia game

[Lloyd]

Your actions are confusing me. You still haven't said why I should be daykilled, and now followe dit up with a Execution of ziliu for no reason.

April Fools Both you and ziliu are going to live so as to go to the good place.

I note the first of those games the person with Daykill is the Godfather. Thus are you roleclaiming the Godfather?

No. I'm a mischievous Berry having fun

In Bad Idea Mafia, Townies had day kill powers too. It resulted in "Shortest. Day 1. Ever."

[Lloyd]

Bacde,

- If you were kidding, thanks for the vote of confidence

- If you were serious, you should lighten up, considering that I wrote it on April Fool's day.

Since ziliu picked up hints that the daykill was a joke, I executed him.

[Lloyd]

Yer an old tomato, you stupid blackberry, I don't need to be prodded.

You don't want to be prodded. Yet, you only posted once in this game.

Unvote

Vote: Coron

[Lloyd]

I think Lloyd stopped being so crazy.

Nah, I'm plumb crazy. Putting Cipiran at 5 votes (1 away from lynch):

Ameliaslay unvotes

Ameliaslay votes Cipiran

Unvote

Vote: Cipiran

[Lloyd]

Above, I mispelled "Ciprian". Sorry about that.

[Lloyd]

Commodore Amazing,

Doctor is a

potential

role. See post 2.

Even if we don't have a doctor, a 1 for 1 trade is still worth it.

[Lloyd]

Then again, maybe we have a doctor

Either way, it's fun to make scum second-guess potential night-time protections.

[Lloyd]

Blackberry,

Could you swap post 0 with post 3?

With the "Always show First Post on every Topic Page" feature turned on, it's more useful to have the living / dead list as post 0.

jeep made a simliar request in another game.

Thanks in advance.

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Ameliaslay,

Doctor, you get one guess as to why I lynched ciprian before he claimed.

Yesterday, Commodore Amazing hinted at being a cop.

care to explain?

At the time, I thought Commodore Amazing was a cop who had a guilty result on ciprian.

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Commodore Amazing,

I didn't think there would be so many information roles in this game (myself, Coron, and the masons)

You are probably lying about your role, because I'm an informational role.

I'm a Huckleberry (Roleblocker), and I breadcrumbed yesterday.

I used expressions found in the Huckleberry Finn book:

- Post 26: "going to live so as to go to the good place"
- Post 69: "plumb crazy"

I described myself, similar to how one would describe the Huckleberry Finn character:

- Post 26: "I'm a mischievous Berry having fun"

Night 1 - I submitted no block, because I didn't want to accidentally block a cop or doctor.

Night 2 - I submitted a block on you, because ciprian turned up town.

I tracked Yosarian2 last night.

I don't believe you, because I submitted a block on you last night.

Are we already in lynch-or-lose? We could go no lynch then. SK will probably have to kill Yosarian2 to keep the scum down. Scum will probably kill me. I guess that puts us in the same spot as if we lynched Yosarian2.

I could go no lynch or for a lynch on Yosarian2.

You seem more likely to be mafia than serial killer.

Vote: Commodore Amazing

[Lloyd]

In post 94:

Commodore Amazing

:: (2) :: (TheCesspit, Yosarian2)

Yosarian2

:: (1) :: (Commodore Amazing)

Not Voting: Ameliaslay, Bacde, Cherry, Lloyd, ziliu

Blackberry,

Yosarian2 unvoted in post 89, and I voted for Commodore Amazing in post 92.

Also, any chance you can switch contents of post 0 with post 3, for the reason that I mentioned in post 92?

Thanks in advance. -- Lloyd

[Lloyd]

I'm going to have to pull a Thok and claim SK.

Brian McQueso claimed SK in post 8 of a game.

I was lying about the role-blocker thing

You claimed a Tracker, not a Roleblocker.

Please list your choices for the past two nights, and your reasons.

[Lloyd]

CA, if you're the SK, you need to claim now. We might be able to confirm that by role-blocking CA again tonight and seeing what happens.

Why would we want to role-block Commodore Amazing tonight?

Please explain because I don't understand the reason. Thanks in advance.

[Lloyd]

Blackberry, thanks for posting the alive / smashed list in post 0.

[Lloyd]

Speaking of ziliu...I wonder if he would counter-claim Commodore Amazing as the serial killer.

Imagine this scenario:

- At first, the notion of SK claim seems unthinkable
- Then, a SK counter-claim happens

I wonder if that has happened in a game yet or not.

[Lloyd]

Commodore Amazing,

Are you concerned about ziliu counter-claiming your SK claim?

[Lloyd]

unvote

. I've got no choice but to vote for who the town wants me to vote for.

Ameliaslay,

I interpreted above as Commodore Amazing willing to work with the town in voting today.

What are your thoughts on it?

[Lloyd]

the doc (who I thought was Coron)

N2 - I really did target Coron, so blocking me really didn't do much. I thought he was scum.

After you claimed Tracker, you thought Coron was the doc on Day 1.

After you claimed SK, you thought Coron was scum on Day 1.

Which is it?

[Lloyd]

Lloyd, is there a reason your votes still on CA that we should know?

- I haven't ruled out the possibilty that CA could be scum claiming SK
- CA isn't in danger right now. Thus, I didn't see the immediate need to move my vote yet.

[Lloyd]

I just don't have time to lay out my case until Thurs.

I look forward to you laying out your case.

[Lloyd]

considering that CA's claim has been called into question soley on the basis of Lloyd's claim of roleblocker

If you really mean "solely", then you are twisting the facts.

- Post 83, TheCesspit questions CA's implied claim from Day 1

- Post 85, Commodore Amazing claims Tracker

- Post 88, Yosarian2 doubts CA's Tracker claim

- Post 91, Cherry questions CA's motiviation in claiming Tracker

- Post 92, I claim to counter CA's claimed investigation from last night.

I blocked CA, so his claimed investigation didn't make sense to me.

[Lloyd]

• [*]Fritzler,
  Raspberry (Vigilante)
  ,[/color]
  bashed Night One.
  
  
  [*]audacesiuvat,
  Cranberry (Mason)
  ,[/color]
  crushed Night One.
  
  
  [*]Ciprian,
  Blackberry (Villager)
  ,[/color]
  lynched Day One.
  
  
  [*]Coron,
  Strawberry (Cop)
  ,[/color]
  crushed Night Two.

my theory about the nightkills was that the vig. killed the mason and the scum killed the vig which justifys there only being one night kill.

According to your theory, audacesiuvat was

crushed

by Fritzler, and Fritzler was

bashed

by scums.

Since Fritzler died on Night 1, he couldn't have

crushed

Coron on Night 2.

How come Coron was

crushed

instead of being

bashed

?

[Lloyd]

I'm posting the following in all my games:

I'll be away from next Monday, May 15th to the following Tuesday, May 23rd.

If my absence could hold up this game, then go ahead and replace me in advance, and let me know that I've been replaced.

I'd rather be replaced, than hold up games. Thus, I am sending out this note in advance.

- Before Monday, May 15th...I'll post as I come across new analyses, unless I am replaced beforehand.

- After Tuesday, May 23rd...If I am still in the game by then, I'll re-join at that time.

[Lloyd]

One major difference between us turbo, is that I want to lynch scum. You, being the sk (since I can't see how you would be mafia), want to slowly kill both sides at the same rate, forcing us to keep you alive. This is why I won't trust a single word you say.

Bacde,

What made you rule out Turbovolver possibly being mafia?

[Lloyd]

Unless we have a Bus Driver, then I doubt Fritzler killed himself.

Since this is a regular mini, I doubt we have a Bus Driver.

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What if there are 2 mafia groups, with 2 players in each group?

Deaths wise, one mafia group (Turbovolver / Commodore Amazing's) may bash, while the other group may crush.

CA could still have gone after Cipirian to potentially obtain a doctor's protection.

Thus, I'm not ruling out Turbovolver as a mafioso yet.

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[Lloyd]

I will point out that if there are three scum, it's very, very unlikely that both you and ziliu are town; that would mean (from my point of view) that TheCesspit, amealia, and bacade are all scum. That seems unlikely to me.

How did you rule out the possibility of a mafia that consists of TheCesspit, Ameliaslay, and Bacde?

[Lloyd]

Evidence wise, there's little to say that that is or isn't the scum trio, but I don't see anything FOR Ameliaslay and very little FOR Bacde.

Since you see little for Amelilay nor Bacde, would you consider the scum trio to be ziliu, Cherry, and Yosarian2 then?

If not, who do you consider as a possible scum trio?

[Lloyd]

ziliu and Cherry,

1) Do you think there is a scum trio?

2) Currently, who do you suspect as scum?

3) Have your suspicions changed drastically since the folloiwng posts?

Post 137:

I re-read and I don't think anyone really is scummy.

Post 207:

at the moment i dont really suspect anyone.

[Lloyd]

In post 255

im a bit confused on why ziliu is being voted for....maybe im missing something or over looked what ever it is but could someone explain that to me?

Ameliaslay,

Based on the most recent vote count in post 256, I think the above was directed at you.

In re-reading, I noticed that you hadn't addressed Cherry's post yet.

[Lloyd]

Unvote

Vote: ziliu

It's a gut-feeling hunch. Also, I'm curious where this leads us.

[Lloyd]

I find it interesting that:
- Today, neither ziliu or Cherry has voted for each other yet
- Cherry has had 2 votes for ~a week now
- Ziliu has 2 votes for ~3 days now, and 3 votes for ~2 days now

If we have a scum trio, I think that:
- Either, both Cherry and Ziliu are scums
- Or, we have scums that are being very careful, and waiting for a reason to lynch either Cherry or Ziliu

[Lloyd]

I also thought of the possibility that both ziliu and Cherry are town, and scums could be waiting for townies to lynch each other.

Unvote

Anyone want to counterclaim ziliu?

[Lloyd]

I still wanna look into Bacde...

Sounds good to me.

Vote: Bacde

[Lloyd]

Bacde,

As for Turbovolver, it's probably in his interest to help lynch scum today. Also, I'm curious whether Turbovolver would actually vote for you not.

One vote doesn't put you in danger. I voted you to gauge your reaction, and get discussions going again.

Between your unvote in post 165, and your vote for Cherry in post 245...

You made no comments about Cherry except for voting for him, even though you commented on ziliu, Amelislay, TheCesspit, Yosarian2, Turbovolver, and I.

Right now, it seems like you voted Cherry to see who would join you. Is that the case or not?

[Lloyd]

It isn't exactly lurker voting, it is scum voting.

Sounds good to me.

Unvote

Vote: Cherry

[Lloyd]

That means I'm OK with

Cherry
Bacde
Ameliaslay

Sounds good to me.

Unvote

Vote: Cherry

Unvote

Vote: Bacde

Unvote

Vote: Ameliaslay

[Lloyd]

After ~ 1 1/2 months (since April 17th) spent on Day 2, I'm starting to lose interest in this game.

At this point, I'm starting to lean toward just lynching Cherry. I'd rather not drag this game on any longer by waiting for a replacement.

If scums win, they've out-patienced me.

What do others think?

In addition, does anyone else want a mass claim?

[Lloyd]

ibaesha,

No counter claim of masonship from you then.

There was only 1 kill type last night. If multiple scum groups targetted Coron and succeeded, Coron probably would have been bashed and crushed.

Based on lack of responses about my question earlier about a mass claim, I guess that's a consensus no.

[Lloyd]

We do have a roleblocker...

...who will probably die tonight.

[Lloyd]

I blocked Yosarian2 last night. He seemed suspicious for not casting a 4th vote on Ameliaslay. Also, Commodore Amazing mentioned early on Day 2 that Yosarian may be scum looking for a serial killer.

As for last night's kill - bashing, I presume that Turbovolver targetted Yosarian2 as well? Turbovolver, who did you target last night?

Vote: Ameliaslay

I don't understand why we didn't lynch Amelislay yesterday. I think it would have been better to lynch, than not to lynch.

[Lloyd]

I'm most leery of Lloyd and want to hear from him, I need to reread the other players as I cant decide between them.

Since we lynched a scum yesterday, I blocked you last night. I was concerned that you may have tried to kill a townie (most likely ziliu) to balance out the numbers.

If we have 3 scums in this game, then the two remaining scums are probably ibaesha and TheCesspit.

I'm more certain about ibaesha than TheCesspit, because she tried going after me similar to how Ameliaslay tried to go after me.

Vote: ibaesha

If ibaesha turns out to be a townie, I'll be susprised.

[Lloyd]

Vote: Lloyd

This game has dragged on too long. I don't think I can convince any of you to a potential 3-way tie.

If we have an un-nightkillable serial killer, enjoy the win.

If not, you two can negotiate a potential tie or everyone will lose in a bloodbath tonight

[Lloyd]

I should have asked the moderator for clarification.

At the time, I made an assumption (possibly wrong in hindsight) that scums automatically win when they control half of the town (based on my experience playing other games).

[Lloyd]

A Huckleberry was easier for me to breadcrumb.

Assuming you don't re-use berry names for power roles...If I had to do it again, I would still claim a Huckleberry.