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I've randomized the list of players in this game and will be voting down the list until each player convinces me they're town or flatters me to my liking.
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Post #25 (isolation #6) » Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:19 pm
Postby th3kuzinator »
How did you come to the conclusion that Cow and Uphill are town from the posts in-between your 13 and 19? If you were specifically attempting to garner reactions, why did you chose to amend your statement so quickly after receiving pressure?
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Post #46 (isolation #12) » Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:11 pm
Postby th3kuzinator »
And by Umbrage I think you mean Uphill.
As for 37, Uphill, I don't agree with quite a bit of it. You prompted him to scumhunt but there really wasn't all that much in the thread to base a read on. To be honest his response that there hasn't been a place to put his vote rings more natural than him trying to force out a legitimate scumread because you asked him too. Agreed that the AtE factor was weird, which is what threw me off in 22, but what you're getting at is something different from what I saw. Him saying to lynch scum instead of him is null in my book but the fact that he said he was alright with his death looked like scum AtE. A townie shouldn't want his death ever as he clarifies in the next sentence so I saw no reason he felt the need to respond like that. As for you last point, you're putting too much stock in survival. Sometimes town players, especially newbies, are afraid of their lynches. The intent behind that doesn't read scum to me, especially since a wagon to L-1 did form mighty quickly.
As for your read on Cow, thats purely connections based and thus useless to me.
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Post #51 (isolation #16) » Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:25 pm
Postby th3kuzinator »
In post 49, mafia-n00b wrote:I meant Umbrage. You said you didn't know why I voted umbrage after he "supported" me. I assumed that you read him town, otherwise why be confused by my vote?
I get your analysis, but still consider him the Scummiest I've seen. Since there's so little info on most of the other players this far, that may not mean much though.
No I thought you meant uphill because in your post where you vote Umbrage you pretty much refute the accusations made by Uphill so it would follow logically that you would vote Uphill because of that.
More simply: Why do you find Umbrage scummy? What do you think about Uphill?
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Post #53 (isolation #17) » Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:15 pm
Postby th3kuzinator »
They just havn't posted much. Reads on them will come with content.
And, again, Uphill didn't dislike you from that start. That was Cow and me. Uphill only started expressing interest in your death in 37 which you proceeded to debunk then subsequently vote Umbrage.
What about Uphill's play reminds you of incorrect townie instead of reaching scum?
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Post #78 (isolation #24) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:37 am
Postby th3kuzinator »
No.
And those were probably the two fluffiest posts I've ever read. IIoA and useless questions everywhere. Your reasoning for not wanting him to claim is that we might out a PR (but that's a risk you take when you ask anyone at anytime to claim so I have no idea why you're trying to use that as an argument) but you've said nothing about why your view on his alignment has changed except that you get an ominous feeling Fuzzy is town. You acknowledge in your points towards Fuzzy that what he's done is scummy and you've pretty much said IGMEOU, yet you somehow get the feeling he's town.
It looks like you're leaving yourself a backdoor if Fuzzy does flip town yet, at the same time, you're making sure you don't completely close off the option of going back to his lynch. Reeks.
Your nudge of Frog is also pretty apparent yet you don't follow up with any comments on his alignment. Why?
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Post #81 (isolation #26) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:55 am
Postby th3kuzinator »
Wah...? So because he's replacing out of other games his performance this game is explainable. Fuzzy isn't a new player I don't think so I don't see what excuse being confused is. I also don't take much stock in meta or other ongoing games since we shouldn't be discussing them anyway.
And I understand you're interested of Frog's opinion. But half the questions you've posed towards him are purely formed to make you look like you had more to ask him. You also plainly said "I don't like this response" yet don't follow up with any sort of indication of what you think of Frog's alignment. Liking someone and being town is not analogous and vice versa.
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Post #83 (isolation #27) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:33 pm
Postby th3kuzinator »
But don't you think that scum would know that they would be called out for suggesting a mass claim on D1 and thus wouldn't do it to draw attention to themselves. Thus, me suggesting we mass claim should auto-clear me.
Glad we've had this talk. How does that wine taste?
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Post #85 (isolation #29) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:44 pm
Postby th3kuzinator »
I'm also curious as to why you singled out Grimmjow as someone who needed to post before your hammer when you say above that your main suspect hasn't contributed much either.
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Post #97 (isolation #34) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:42 pm
Postby th3kuzinator »
So if it's clear I'm joking with the mass claim request then it should also follow from that that I'm joking about Fuzzy's stonefaced response to it.
Just clarifying that you view me as scummy for being a distraction (in a thread that has an average of ten posts per day). As for there being no town motivation, I'd file it under the category of enjoyment.
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Post #98 (isolation #35) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:46 pm
Postby th3kuzinator »
Back on topic: If Fuzzy is a fairly established player on these boards then I agree. You're right about n00b AtE'ing but I'm sure you know just as well as I do that AtE by itself isn't a scumtell and the intent behind his particular case reads town instead of scum.
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Post #102 (isolation #37) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:24 pm
Postby th3kuzinator »
Clearly not flailing.
I joke around. Cow says there is no town motivation for me to do so. I say there is, and that's enjoyment. He remarks that I'm putting my enjoyment over what is best for town. This is clearly not the case, as it has not stopped me from giving reads, scumhunting, or producing content.
It was clearly 100% a joke.
Why are you parroting Cow? Also, your theory is dumb. I'm still on the Fuzzy wagon and still for the fuzzy lynch. In this entire interaction I've never expressed interest about changing wagons.
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Post #103 (isolation #38) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:29 pm
Postby th3kuzinator »
Oh and 'if' 'then' statements are common in logic. The if doesn't refer to me not being clear I wasn't joking, its how you formulate a sentence that draws an implied conclusion.
