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[ShadowLurker]

:goodposting:

Sounds like a solid bandwagon with great reasons so I'll second

Vote: Klebian

[ShadowLurker]

Confirm vote: Klebian

Scummy reaction.

[ShadowLurker]

I am 100% sure, at the minute, that Klebian is scum.

Discuss.

:goodposting:

[ShadowLurker]

Confirm Vote: Klebian

[ShadowLurker]

Look under my avatar..

Gender: Male


Primate, that should've been kept for yourself until you thought it was necessary

[ShadowLurker]

Look under my avatar..

Gender: Male


Primate, that should've been kept for yourself until you thought it was necessary

Meh, I

was

asked. Besides, it's not as if it was a major point anyway, hell it's random voting, innit? Anything we can do to help an early game bandwagon, which are normally random, hit the target, the better IMHO. Sorry if I ruined your Mojo, though.

And I totally spaced on the Gender thing. You and your penis have my sincerest apolgies.

XD, no, I meant that those things you should've kept to yourself for YOUR OWN benefit, not mine.

[ShadowLurker]

I'm going to save you guys some time and effort and say right now I have ZERO completed games on this site right now so analyzing my playing style is pointless.

[ShadowLurker]

OK, I'm sorry for my first few posts. I assumed Rosso was joking, and jokingly put on another vote, and SL has kinda been on my case in every game I'm in...

I'm with you in exactly 1 other game so don't even try pulling that crap. And what do I see? A bandwagon on you, so don't even try singling out me either.

To comment on this:
"I also said I kept my vote on ShadowLurker because I saw no better place to put it. If you lot hadn't jumped on me about it it might have been useful for seeing who tried to jump on the bandwagon or maybe bring a reaction from SL the longer it stayed there. This is basic mafia principle - one does not say "hey, here's a pressure vote!" or "I'm keeping this random vote on to see if scum will try to force a claim and/or lynch from the votee!"" (CDB)
I understand what you were trying to do, but see, while scum MIGHT be dumb enough to jump on a bandwagon with some type of reasoning, who would vote for someone who has 2 votes, when someone just confirmed his vote with reasoning of "There's nowhere else to put it"?
That's the main problem with that "strategy"

Congratulations on saying what Patrick said less clearly.

[ShadowLurker]

He seems to have a tendency in other games on this forum (like in General Mish mash) to also just keep voting me, pressuring me, and such, that's why I essentially ignored his "confirm vote: Klebian" after my (joke) :goodposting:.

Examples. Now. What you are spouting now is just plain bs, out of the 1 game I can think of where you vote, I have been on ZeroSum the entire time. Stop trying to think of out of the game occurences and focus on what's in game.

I live in CT, you live on TX.

[ShadowLurker]

Unvote, Vote Spectrumvoid

[ShadowLurker]

was that a third vote on klebian by spectrumvoid earlier? That seems too eager. I know lynch all liars exists but I thought it applied more to ppl who lie about their roles.

There was a vote count 2 posts after spectrumvoid's post...

It's not that hard to deduce that was a second vote.

[ShadowLurker]

So klebian lied about SL pressuring him in other games. He also might have lied about knowing SL in real life, I don't know. It is odd, but does this odd = scummy? It would be strange to make up stuff like that as scum because it's so easily refuted.

In short, I think you could be looking for an easy bandwagon against klebian.

I advise you to read Mafia 54. Also, I do know SL in real life. I can't say that he'll confirm this, but it's the truth. Go on scumchat, or ask someone who is frequently on.

I don't know about spectrumvoid. Admittedly, it seems like I was lying, but seriously, SL enjoys putting pressure on me for no reason, and I didn't realize we were on such few games on this site together.

Seriously, klebian, stop trying to bring ONGOING GAMES into the picture.

Your second paragraph makes no sense, your topic sentence starts off about spectrumvoid, then once again you go into about how you weren't really lying about the whole pressure thing.

[ShadowLurker]

I don't know if this is scummy, it's just weird.

My thoughts, in list form.

#1) Klebian is genuinely mistaken:- Tells us nothing about eithers alignment, although SL's reaction does.

#2) Shadowlurker is genuinely mistaken:- I find it

very

hard to believe that this is the case, for some reason.

#3) Klebian is scumbuddies with Shadowlurker, and was trying to set up a system by which they can vouch for each other, which Shadowlurker rejected (rightfully) as stupid, and is now having to bus like crazy to save himself.:- After Post Restriction II, I refuse to believe that obvious connections like this should be ignored as improbable. I still have twinges about that game.

#4) Klebian is scum and is trying to set-up a false connection.:- Personally, because of the form with which Kleb phrased his statement, I consider this unlikely.

#5) Klebian is town, and he's trying to cast suspicion on SL for some reason:- The guy is not 'tarded,

Now, under 1 and 2, Klebian would

know

that Shadowlurker is lying, or mistaken about something. So, the natural course of action would be to clear it with SL, make him realise and admit to the mistake. But instead he doesn't do this, he appeals to the town, artificially creating a pseudo-kinda-choicish-kinda-LALish position. 5) is just implausible due to the lack of vote.

So, Klebian, I ask you, as a townie, knowing that Shadowlurker was lying, why did you not clarify things? Name a school you went to, say your name or something. Say the name of the city, that kinda thing. Hell, if you two know each other in real life, ring each other. We need to get this thing sorted, primarily to eliminate #2, but also to stop what I mostly believe is a discussion that will degrade into Wifom.

Happy with my Spectrumvoid vote, too.

You are making mountains out of molehills.


This is what happened.
klebian tried to use very stupid logic that I'm attacking him in every game and in the Mish Mash forum. I'm only in 1 other game with him and have not attacked him in Mish Mash. SV votes Klebian for LAL, I vote SV.

[ShadowLurker]

I don't think I ever denied meeting him in real life. I think I did point out that we live very far away in a post to get the point that I don't know him that well irl.
klebian went to a national competition with me. I don't consider that knowing in real life, maybe he does. I talk to him on AIM frequently.

[ShadowLurker]

With ya.

K', happy to move on then. Everything seems pleasing here.

Question is, where do we move on to?

Spectrumvoid, or you.

Or we can ask Rosso Carne and CDB

[ShadowLurker]

I don't like SV's LAL excuse to lynch klebian. I believe we should have some pressure on her.

Klebian I also don't like for his ridocolous defenses but I'll leave him alone for now as I'm more in favor of a SV lynch.

[ShadowLurker]

What ridiculous defense? Where I "lied"?
...

Where you repeatedly choose to reference out of this game circumstances (the fact that they were lies isn't as important).

Also, your lack of contribution bothers me.

[ShadowLurker]

Sorry, this games kinda passed me by.

I'll conclusive conclude stuff at the conclusion of the morning tomorrow.

Any conclusions yet?

[ShadowLurker]

Still happy with my vote.

[ShadowLurker]

RC: You aren't on him, if you vote, he'd be at -1.

[ShadowLurker]

I requested a deadline extension.

klebian: How about putting your vote somewhere and contributing more than "I don't know what to do" ?

[ShadowLurker]

vote:sv

WTF? What if she was a cop or doc?

[ShadowLurker]

Meh, I haven't seen much opportunity to say anything. I'd vote sv, but... well, it seems like the reasons are a bit tired.

I'll see about the deadline, meanwhile,

unvote

, it was a random vote anyway.

You mean that little non content one?

[ShadowLurker]

Ugh, I was going to go after Rosso today. Patrick looked completely clean to me though.

[ShadowLurker]

People need to be more careful in the endgames.. *Sigh*