Mini 1462: Serra's Fun House (Game over)

[Mac]

/confirm

[Mac]

VOTE: ETL

scum before is scum again!

[Mac]

I don't understand what you are trying to convey?

it was an rvs vote which is essentially a joke. because I was scum with you, you know?

[Mac]

This was on my fb newsfeed...... lol had to share here and on FWAN

Just for you Jake


Truly if you are that new have you signed up in the Newbie queue? We tend to get a bit rougher outside of that queue. Nothing is meant to be taken personally however.

The reality was I was pushing on you more to see how others responded than on you.

Plus that kind of nervousness can definitely be a scum tell. If you have any game mechanic questions, feel free to ask. Also what happened to your avatar? It would be easier to keep track of your posts if you have one.

lol @ the picture!

the bolded seems a little weak but nonetheless: did you learn anything from how the others responded to your push on truly?

[Mac]

also I will read what I haven't when I return from work tonight.. unless I go out

[Mac]

oh and be faster next time serra

Yeah, yeah...
I'd literally JUST hit send on a friendly reminder to come post when your post pops up...

[Mac]

I'd be good with a mac vote also but it's mainly for not game related reasons.

so if a wagon formed you'd hop on because you don't like me? lol

If mac does replace out I will be pushing for his lynch as I have heard rumors that he doesn't like playing scum and is more likely (not always) to replace out if he is scum.

this is a false accusation. are these "rumors" based on the fact I replaced out of your game and was scum?

[Mac]

I made a post before the outage but I can't remember what it was

would like to see where mr rees is going with this, however.

[Mac]

one person says you look nervous and you lose your shit?

[Mac]

Hey this actually goes with your scum meta. You get all pissy and mad when your scum all the time. I've seen it twice. And you have like 3 votes.

When I saw the post by Mr. Ree, I literally thought "This is a normal, probably not true, but maybe someone gets all scared because they've been 'caught'"

This AtE as well as the 'outrage' is pretty consistent with you being scum.

can you provide some examples?

[Mac]

Becauses it's fucking annoying!

what, to have one person think you are scum? you keep say "all of you" when you are firing insults yet only one person (doctorpepper) voted to prior to this meltdown.

[Mac]

you were talking about people saying you were "nervous" when you flipped out when one person had said it.

[Mac]

why call everyone idiots when only 1 person voted you? rach you think is scum so she can't be an idiot AND scum and the only other person voting you was Mac (not even sure why it was so long ago)

oh that was what I done when the site was down by the way, I unvoted. so I shouldn't be voting you.

UNVOTE:

[Mac]

ETL revealing the gambit was more helpful than scum pointing it out in my opinion, and only on this occasion. it was pretty obvious & scum who spot gambits can manipulate their reactions to suit the gambit pretty easily.

her freaking out seemed town, purely because I've been in that kind of flip-out-situation too and been town.

[Mac]

I'm also pushing him because of his air of superiority. It's like he feels he's above the game itself. And why should I trust someone like that?

why is that a scum tell?

[Mac]

I'm also pushing him because of his air of superiority. It's like he feels he's above the game itself. And why should I trust someone like that?

why is that a scum tell?

He's using that as a reason not to answer any of my questions or explain further. "being above it is not OK" Now he's just blatantly messing with me by making jokes with Ree and not saying anything else in response to anything that I said.

And Yates, the more you don't answer questions, the more I'm going to try to get you to talk and react. I'm like the bumblebee next to your ear that never goes away. And since I don't feel comfortable with the way you're acting, it's just gonna keep going on, baby, whether you like it or not. Get cozy, cuz I'm going to get to know you a lot better eventually and get you talking.

this is typical yates but the way in which you are trying to get him to talk makes me think you are town looking for answers. I like it, but maybe you should spread your seed (heh..) to others in the game rather than just focus on Yates who may or may not continue to act like he has done so?

[Mac]

yates can you expand on how your gambit "caught scum"?

and on a side note, do you ever go a game without a gambit?

[Mac]

ETL talk to me. when Mr Rees pulled an obvious gambit, you pointed it out in an instant and yet when Yates pulled an also "obvious" gambit you let it slide with no word?

what happened to gambits hurt town?

[Mac]

how would Ree's be deceiving?

[Mac]

what benefit does nacho get from claiming?

[Mac]

& lying that should say

[Mac]

these cards better be a royal flush Yates or I will make sure your ass is lynched out of this game

[Mac]

agreeing with ETL. I'm kinda off with Yates' 'theory' and it feels like it's an effort to make it look like he's doing something when he's doing not very much in reality.

[Mac]

woah beetlejuice

yates' word doesn't mean ANYTHING around here and the fact that you are letting it mean something after previously making a big deal about it worries me

[Mac]

I'm not taking anyone's side but you did just technically do what he wanted.

[Mac]

don't let the haters bring you down. <3

VOTE: Yates

[Mac]

People told me to stop being so annoying Dr P so I'm taking my focus off here so things don't stay so heated. Mac, I'm glad not everyone is taking his side.

This sounds like "Im staying under the radar, not because people found my multiple posting annoying"

Am I the only one who thinks Yates' theory makes sense??

since you are here please map it out for me. cos I'm getting nothing

[Mac]

If MS says NachoPappa is lying, we lynch Nacho

If he flips town neighbor, then MS is scum.
If he flips scum, then we try to see if MS bussed.

Thats how I saw it

what if ms says they are neighbours? what if they are both town?

yates is stalling the game right now and focusing it on two players alone. if these two are town then his buddies are dancing behind our backs.

[Mac]

UNVOTE:

[Mac]

yates you are aware of how metal sonic plays, right?

because this is it.

every fuckin' game

[Mac]

RACH WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU CLAIMING FOR?

WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYONE CLAIMING

[Mac]

there was literally no point in claiming there.

there are some real liars in this game

[Mac]

why would rach out her and shos like that ETL?

[Mac]

actually that is a question for rach too.

why out shos?

[Mac]

are people aware that the only role guaranteed is at least one vt?

[Mac]

please carefully explain how the masons claim makes more sense to be scum than neighbours

[Mac]

sounds to me like you are either super tunneling ETL or scum trying to get a mason lynched.

[Mac]

Ok if she was town and/or mason, how come scum isnt supporting her lynch? If yates or ms (did nul replace him?) were scum, why arent they on rach's lynch? Instead they are voting each other. What does that tell you?

Please think harder. I'm begging you.

because scum probably don't want to be fucking obvious and lynch a claimed mason?

[Mac]

Rach - opinion on ETL?

[Mac]

you know what caused all this?

FUCKING SHITTY GAMBITS.

whoever fake claimed as town is going on MY black list of player

[Mac]

i genuinely don't know. i'm fucking confused out of my arse right now, but I don't like the way ETL is acting at the moment.

[Mac]

Rach - opinion on ETL?

[Mac]

@mod - can we have a prod on TSO?

[Mac]

thinking she is probably scumz

so why does #650 look like you are thinking she is town?

[Mac]

Hey guys, look. The shark is somewhere over there. Shall we look for it over here instead? Yeah that sounds like a great plan!!

you seem to keep forgetting that the shark could just be someone swimming about with a fin taped to their back

[Mac]

VOTE: EspeciallyTheLies

I'm researching

[Mac]

Mac, that's a terrible vote.

it could be. I'm looking

[Mac]

I might be able to get behind that.

I'll go ahead and state

Intent to hammer

Broom, you should claim now.

what makes you feel you can get behind the lynch?

[Mac]

After rereading through everyone's ISO, I am going to place my vote on someone whom I feel have been very conservative with their opinions and restricting the amount of content they have provided thus far. He has given what appears to be zero thought to much of his votes, and has not shown a considerable interest in revealing the reasons behind these votes. Scum typically only explain themselves when questioned, but town will actively try to convince others of their own reads. His unwillingness to show us what he sees without us consistently asking is a reliable scum tell. The person in question also seems to be sinking under the radar throughout much of the game, which I feel is intentional.


VOTE: Mac

VOTE: EspeciallyTheLies

I'm researching

Throws a vote on ETL, then says "he is researching". Just what is the purpose of his vote? He's not trying to start a wagon and it's quite clear no one has much interest on ETL. I feel Mac's vote was placed just so he has his vote somewhere to create the illusion he is scumhunting rather than sitting between the fences. He's provided zero meaningful insight and much of his posts are fluff evident by his pattern of one sentence posts.

He is constantly informing us he is "looking/researching", keeping us in anticipation for what we hope is a contribution to the scumhunting efforts. But it's been 34 posts and he still does not have a scum read on anyone with good reason. I feel this is done so that no one questions why he has not provided anything thus far.

"Why haven't you posted anything meaningful yet?" "I'm still researching."

I recommend a thorough look at Mac's ISO to everyone in this game.

I have made two votes. one which I explained on yates pretty well. one on ETL which I haven't explained because I haven't had time to do the meta research I was planning on. how does placing a vote "create the illusion" I am scumhunting

when I actively admitted I was still doing some research on the vote to see if it was correct?

I didn't say "ETL is scum" and run with it. I said I was still investigating and my vote was there as a placeholder as such. nice effort to try and de-rail the broom wagon, however.

the investigating can wait, however. the research was how ETL usually reacts to claims because I can't understand why she is so desperate to lynch a claimed mason. couldn't find the time for it yet, and ended up receiving some fruitless accusations in here from you for it.

this is either: an effort to de-rail the broom wagon or anticipating an attack on ETL and defending her before I could get out of the starting block. I'm curious as to why it looks to Yates like a distancing vote, however?

[Mac]

I'm really really worried by fuzzy wandering into the thread and declaring intent to hammer broom without even mentioning him beforehand.

[Mac]

*shrug* I could've just voted him. Reasoning is simple. I knew we were nearing deadline and I felt Broom's lynch would make a lot of things clear.

yeah you could've but you would've been autolynched.

what would broom's lynch make clear?

[Mac]

UNVOTE:

I will make time for this game tomorrow before work.meanwhile, I haven't done much meta work on etl and as I said I won't be doing that until tomorrow at least

[Mac]

Not to me.

P-edit. Good luck with that mac <3

thanks sweetheart.

who do we lynch today that's not rach?

[Mac]

Meta also shows i do it when I'm busy too? Whatever meta you have is shit and evidently wrong.

[Mac]

Nacho, u scum bro?

[Mac]

Meta also shows i do it when I'm busy too? Whatever meta you have is shit and evidently wrong.

busy enough so that you read my post within 1 hour of me posting that


active lurker - confirmed


hey at least i dont make promises to make walls on people when im lurking!

Do you even know what active lurking is?

I just woke up. An hour after isn't active lurking: a minute after? Thats active lurking.

And before you get up on your high horse, I have a 5 minute break from work and am phone posting atm. Nachos reasoning for voting me is so so bad it looks like scum.

[Mac]

Omg i replied after 2 and a half hours!!!!

Active lurking - confirmed

[Mac]

Nacho isnt scumhunting. All he's doing is saying Yates is scum and offering to vote anyone Yates doesn't want to lynch. That's not scumhunting.

[Mac]

Im now sure Ms is scum guys its cool

[Mac]

Im now sure Ms is scum guys its cool

Suspicious post is suspicious

Vote: Mac

what's suspicious about it?

I was sure he was scum, but I had made a mistake in my thinking. is that a scum tell?

[Mac]

was after the hammer.

nice try though. what differs from DP's #1095?

[Mac]

i thought he was posting elsewhere but not here. what i thought was avoidance had me convinced

i discovered the fact that he hadn't posted across the site after the thread was locked.

[Mac]

evidently not.

what's the scum motivation behind me posting that? and why did you avoid my question?

[Mac]

Yates was probably roleblocked?

And MrRee continues to make no sense

[Mac]

Yes. Towncred.

I was sure they were scum but they flipped town so I must be too...

Clutching at straws. HOW DOES THIS EVEN WORK? Again, I ask you what differs from my post and DP's post i referenced a few pages back?

[Mac]

A neighbor roleblocked??

...?

Its a role, and it may have been blocked

[Mac]

Yates, do you know if you were roleblocked or jailkept?

[Mac]

What reason infinity?

[Mac]

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I iso'd mac + dp, and the way they always interact while never giving a read on each other and dp backpedaling when being accused of defending mac is pretty bad.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DoctorPepper

I haven't had alot of time to post lately but a quick skim read before each day. the above quote is nonsense, and I'm pretty sure for me this applies to most of the players in this game. where I interact and don't give reads. that's not a scumtell.

now you are voting me because I have more votes < you are voting me based off an associative tell when you have nothing to associate me with. you gave an extra reason to vote DP (backpedalling when accused of defending me. didnt see this but will read more on the weekend.) and yet you still vote me based on associative tells. you know who do this? scum who have managed to link a townie with their partner. town don't make associations when they don't know what they are associating with.

in this case you have linked me and doctorpepper, and yes, that does mean I think infinity is scum and DP is his buddy.

VOTE: DoctorPepper

I am urging the town not to let the ETL slot away that easily. the reason I'm voting DP over Infinity is because most of you read her replace-out as town, I don't particularly see it that way.

also before I go;

@mod - can mafia roleblockers/jailkeepers use their abilities on their partners?

the reason I asked is because I wouldn't put it past Yates to use such a gambit.

[Mac]

@mod - I'm going to be v/la until monday, tuesday at the latest. attending a festival out of town.

[Mac]

Alright, I'm done re-reading for the moment.

Mac, you planned to do research on ETL, but you ended up stalling and never gave us any info. You're on V/LA again, after a few inactive bouts D1.

From my limited experience, my gut says you are scum for the ill-timed awkwardness pre-flip, post-lynch. More damning is your explanation for being so sure about someone you never voted to be scum. Logically speaking, I don't buy your excuse. Strongest scum vibes from my re-read today, by far.

Vote: Mac

yes I didn't do any research, yes that is terribad from me and I could still probably do it if I felt like it but right now I have a stinking hangover but I have mapped out clearly what I planned to do in that I was meta-ing her to see how she reacted to claims like she did as such with Rach and her mason claim. sometimes research never fails.

tell me what the scum motivation for me, having just seen the town direct themselves to a mislynch without my help, turn around and say I was sure he was scum? there is probably none, it attracts unnecessary attention to myself

also I can't tell if you are using my V/LA as an excuse for me being scum. I fucking hope not.

[Mac]

Ree, I never said he was town, I said your reason for thinking he was scum is weird. Thats different.
But Mac pretty much voted me because I had more votes, while thinking infinity is his main scum read. And saying Im the secondary scum read, with barely any reasoning, pretty much just sounds like "I think he is scum but since youre all voting for this guy, imma say he's scum so I can vote him"

So why is Infinity scum, Mac?

I don't think he's scum any more. but I'm REALLY wary of ETL's replace out because I just dont know where her freakouts were coming from. the wariness and shivers I was getting made me think he was replacing into a scumslot and then he made the pretty bad associative tells (like he had better reasons to vote DP rather than me since mine wasn't restriced to DP)

but since then he seems pretty town, I think I like his line of questioning and thinking. his reasoning for DP scum was good.

also I didn't say Infinity was my top read over you I'm pretty sure.

[Mac]

I'm on like 55 or something but the mason's really need to get a fucking grip on this game cos if they are legit and they don't we are going to lose.

how, I hear you say? if you two keep lurking around and prod dodging and not fucking scumhunting then you are not going to be killed at night because you are not utilizing your advantage you have. and when you are not killed at night because you are doing sweet nothing, we kill you. and when we kill you, we either win with a scumflip or we lose because you were masons.

if I finish catching up and there is not some fucking decent contribution from the two people who we are treating as confirmed town for the moment then there will be blood.

[Mac]

hey that looks like it was a fun game with that bunch of peeps

REALLY

[Mac]

*sigh* Nacho is scum guys. 99.99999999999% sure of it. When Mac flips town, we lynch Nacho. Kay? Kay.

I'm worried about this, how do you know I'm going to flip town?

I'll have to take another look but this read has just been fired from a cannon into this game.

also I don't understand why me not voting for MS makes me scum. I NEVER had a scumread on him and even told YOU Yates that lurksack and laziness was his town and scum style too.

I don't understand your logic behind me voting you too makes me scum either?

[Mac]

VOTE: Mac

I feel like Infinity just isn't going to let go of this whole "Mac" thing.

what the fuck does this mean. one minute I am GOING to flip town and the next minute you are voting me bcus of a "mac thing" ?

[Mac]

k so I'm a vt.

but let's talk about this more so we can find scum instead of lynching town plz

Yates work with me. masons work with each other and do something or fucking replace out.

and sorry for the posts. you all should be proud of the effort I made since I'm hanging out of my arse right now.

[Mac]

a mac townflip is going to happen and it probably should if lynching me is going to help us find actual scum

[Mac]

would be willing to vote fuzzy today as well, but I'll catch up more tonight

[Mac]

rach with all due respect, are you going to do anything?

[Mac]

hey sorry about my inactivity, i was v/la but didn't realise i would be! this has been sitewide for what it's worth, so it's not scum "flying under the radar" as shos put it

Whoa whoa whoa, I'm seriously town here. You can't expect a MS role to be the same as an EM role.

My role isn't anti town. Jailkeeper

+ hider

. Think about that for a sec. There are probably no other PRs. Why would scum have a hider role?

This is totally scum trying to get rid of the only PR. There are no town killing roles, thus, my role ONLY makes sense as TOWN.

anyway, i had a brief scan but will go into more detail tomorrow. this caught my eye. if you are a hider then that makes yates town because you didn't die. right?

[Mac]

VOTE: mac

If this is the way forward then so be it.

[Mac]

look I've said my role and if we are not going to lynch scum then it can be me. I'd rather not, in fact truth be told I'd lynch one of shos/rach because I think their claim is BS since they are doing nothing of the mason type.

[Mac]

what potential surprise does it take away?