Mini 1462: Serra's Fun House (Game over)

[RachMarie]

/confirm

[RachMarie]

ETL

That actually happened to me in a game The Sherlock Holmes one lol. I NKed the global watcher but there was a notekeeping backup who got the watchers results. I self hammered before they could figure out who my scum budz was.



VOTE: Yates Your avatar is Death therefore you must be scumz

[RachMarie]

got a case there Jake?

meanwhile not liking how dude is waffiling and flailing so much the whole survivalistic stuffs is definitely pinging my scumdar...


VOTE: truly

[RachMarie]

Sorry about that dudette.

Why are you flailing about why are you not pursuing scumspects?

I realize by your join date you are new, but you seem inordinately concerned about it.


ETL thats cause usually dont have obvious scumminess so soon.

[RachMarie]

maybe cause it reminds me of the dude in Newbie 1225 who later replaced out and I replaced in for him and it was my first time as scumz. I managed to lesson the suspicion on me partly cause of my laid back attitude. And truthfully stating I had no idea why he did what he did.

I could be mistaken, it is early, but yeah iffen you want the link happy to provide.

[RachMarie]

LOL that was awful Jake ROFL And he was so gung ho about it too boy am I glad they did not believe him otherwise I would not have caught AP in the act the next day

ETL

he is referring to a game that he modded that just finished Goonies Mafia and I was the town watcher. Bacde (one of the scumz) and AP (the other scumz) tried their hardest to get me lynched to the point of Bacde fake claiming a PR .... I managed to avoid getting lynched, watched the person who got NKed (one of two since they were Lovers not Masons), and caught AP red handed.

Sorry if it was not clear, depends on the circumstances, if I wAs concerned about my partner being revealed I probably would self hammer again, if it looked like I could fake him out and get someone else lynched, then I might try something like miller but ehh most likely would self hammer.

[RachMarie]

Well well ya all are so great here... And I think we are definitely out of RVS now.

Hey Bert

now it is time for something a bit more serious...

one post and one vote and suddenly a major wagon develops on me. All over a push vote.

Bert
How did you see that post as overly stubborn? Especially since I did not follow it up with several more stating how truly is scumz?
Easy target because someone is new? ETL in her second game ever on site and first game with me got a perfect scum win with her buddy Kibbles. Yes I do weigh in how much experience someone has, but I do not give anyone a free pass for being a newbie. Especially if they are in a non newbie game, most of the time that indicates they have mafia experience from other sites.

Jake
I expect more than just I have a feelin.....

TSO
umm truly is a she not a he... of those on my wagon, you actually have a case, so you are probably town.

ETL

what? You pushed the case on me from the sidelines and just now voted??? After several others jumped on?

girl...



VOTE: ETL


Sorry for the delay in getting back, but it took a while to get my NEW COMPUTER all set up whooo

[RachMarie]

This was on my fb newsfeed...... lol had to share here and on FWAN

Just for you Jake


Truly if you are that new have you signed up in the Newbie queue? We tend to get a bit rougher outside of that queue. Nothing is meant to be taken personally however.

The reality was I was pushing on you more to see how others responded than on you. Plus that kind of nervousness can definitely be a scum tell. If you have any game mechanic questions, feel free to ask. Also what happened to your avatar? It would be easier to keep track of your posts if you have one.

[RachMarie]

oh Serra I HAZ NEW COMPUTAH woot

Noice!

[RachMarie]

Got a good feeling about TSO enough to put him in the town pile.

Iffy on ETL of the votes on me she seems the scummiest...

Trulys is OMGUS but she IS new ...

LOL why the unvote now Jake? Just cause of the pic

[RachMarie]

Berts vote on me seems fishy too (NP)

will need to look at DPs vote as well. but I believe IIRC he voted for me before I switched over to truly will have to double check on that.

[RachMarie]

ohhh basically what I was doing duh

Get anything from it?

[RachMarie]

Good to see you Ree

DP can go in the town pile BTW

Umm didnt Ree replace Yates?

Or are we looking at yet another replacement? Yates has not spoken much lately.

[RachMarie]

wait you replaced Truly right.

Where are you Yates?

[RachMarie]

ETL

I will respond later with the crash and all and having to do stuff including reopening a game I am modding, plus trying to get some work caught up now that I have a computer YAY, I have not gotten this far yet. Please do calm down I do like playing with you girl no matter what your alignment is HUGS ♥

Serra could you be a dear and post an updated VC? With the lost posts n stuffs its kinda confusing. Thanks

[RachMarie]

Mac
hey at least all you had to do was unvote again I had to completely reopen a Newbie game and send out mass PMs to both my Newbie games to let them know site was back up

[RachMarie]

ok trying this again....

ETL if you manage to get me lynched and I flip TOWN, who will you look at? Because you are tunneling something fierce here.

[RachMarie]

huh? I dont get that reference there Bert?

[RachMarie]

WTF is with all these claims

Let me spell it out clearer for you ETL

I pushed on her based on the way she was responding to put a bit more pressure on her and see how ya all reacted.

It did a couple of things:

1. Got us out of RVS

2. Started a wagon on me that I could analyze for possible scumz.


My results were not as good as I would have liked, but of those voting me

Jake seems town based on the fact he started it more or less during RVS and did not tunnel on me even though I was an easy target.

DP also seems town because he voted early on for me and his posts seem to be coming from a Town POV

TSO seemed to have an actual (weak but it was there) case on me for his vote.... Town

ETL and Yates hmmm ETL was pushing for people to vote me while not voting for me herself that seems scummy as all getout. She also seems quite annoyed by the backlash wagon on her.

Scum

Yates uggh I know some peeps think he is town but I am not so sure. His vote on me seems opportunistic and the claim uggh... PGO? I could see scum choosing to claim that to keep cops and trackers from trying to target him, while he basically lurks a lot. And it looks like he got peep to start claiming which is not good this early on. Unless you are at L-1 with intent you should not be claiming on Day ONE.

Oh yeah I know I have done it too. Still I got yelled at for doing it.



Bert ewwwww

[RachMarie]

umm I just got on my computer a little bit ago....

Trying to stay awake til after we go out to dinner and try to get myself back on a normal schedule again. But I still laid down for several hours to get off my legs. I have serious edema if I sit at the computer too long at one time.

[RachMarie]

wait your top town reads are yourself and Yates?

[RachMarie]

Sorry guys n gals I have been in bed with some ugly virus thingy.

Will work on catching up

umm Ree I guess I should be flattered that you voted for me cause I forgot you

Remember you had just replaced in so I was not sure on you yet. It does take me a while to peg everyone.

I will say this though, it is a mini normal and I doubt it is role madness. Someone who has claimed is not telling the truth.

[RachMarie]

VOTE: Yates

Of the claims, his seems most likely to be fake BTW....

[RachMarie]

yep a neighborizer is an actual PR. And it can be used to figure out if someone else is also town.

Neighbors on the other hand, are randomly generated by the mod and may or may not be of the same alignment.

[RachMarie]

ETL

Mini 1433 We had neighbors which in that case turned out to both be town, but they also had other PRS as well. And I was just answering DPs question in general, I am still rather suspicious of so many claims..

[RachMarie]

I missed that somehow

So you admit you fake claimed a PR? Give me ONE good reason that benefits town instead of scumz?

Fake claiming as town is not helpful it just makes you look like a liar. And some peeps will auto lynch liars.

I yelled at Absta for doing that too TWICE.

[RachMarie]

Wait he lied and you want to lynch me

Could you explain your reasoning please?

[RachMarie]

Keep in mind peeps that just cause they confirmed each other as neighbors, does not mean they are confirmed town.

[RachMarie]

huh what shos?

[RachMarie]

I use that all the time also known as egosearch, but TBF shos, NS told me about it early on. Not everyone gets that immediately.

[RachMarie]

Ok Yates is at L-1 before hammering, please give INTENT TO HAMMER. And give him time to post and claim for realz.

[RachMarie]

holy crap 4 neighbors???


Umm are we SURE this game is balanced?


Shos up to you buddy ya wanna claim too uggh since everyone else has?

ETL I am not scum and neither is Shos that much I know for sure.

[RachMarie]

pfft not neighbors

[RachMarie]

Masons

[RachMarie]

Which means I know Shos is TOWN and he knows I am TOWN

[RachMarie]

yeah MS tends to be a lurky loo

Because ETL and Yates were not gonna let it go.

[RachMarie]

Sorry Mac but ETL is so bound and determined to get me lynched.


Also I doubt there are FOUR neighbors along with a Mason pair WTF?


Though as I said before, Neighbors are random and are not always both members town.

[RachMarie]

and what will you do ETL when I flip TOWN and I will ... So will Shos

[RachMarie]

oh good grief

Not all neighbor couples that are random rather than the act of a neighborizer doing his or her PR are all TOWN

They can be T and T

They can be T and S or S and T


ETL I dunno whats up with you girl, you usually are a bit more laid back than this and at least willing to look at evidence.

sigh

[RachMarie]

If you end up getting one of us lynched or one of us is NKed and we flip Mason I want you to stop hounding the other one and actually look for scumz ETL

I know you have it in you girl.


Sorry about that Shos but it was becoming very clear we would have to claim.

[RachMarie]

IIRC as for the normal part all that is required is at least one VT plus certain really oddball roles are not allowed and no bastardy modding.

neighbors and masons are among the normal roles.

[RachMarie]

I do have his back, I was hoping we could hold off claiming which is why I was annoyed with all the claims bah....

Oh yeah and tween that and ETL so uber tunneling that she cant see the forest for the trees....

Also her unwillingness to see that neighbors are NOT always conf town. Masons are, and most likely one of us will die tonight, and I was looking so forward to chatting up with shos in this game and using both our brains to catch the scumz.

[RachMarie]

thinking she is probably scumz

[RachMarie]

You can always PM the mod asking for an official updated VC.

BTW way to totally misrep me there ETL

1. Length of time has nothing to do with it here I have been very ill for several days now and been off my computer more than on it, and when on it my brain is not its usual speed.

2. Shos and I do NOT HAVE DAY TALK. We can only talk at night. Which was why I wanted to wait til we had a chance to talk tonight before outting ourselves. But ETL and Yates have pushed and pushed to the point I could see I was going to get lynched if they kept it up. I wanted Town to have that info so they would know that Shos is TOWN and masons with me. That is why I claimed.

3. Amazing now you are not so sure of Yates, yet you have been defending him for all it is worth?


Ree has a good point there are two scum after all, and I doubt there are likely to be 2 scum in the 4 neighbors. Lets work on finding the other scum and have him or her help us figure out which one of the 4 is lying.

[RachMarie]

Broom

I thought I had more than 4 votes for starters I thought I was at L-1

Also why dont you want to look for scuim in the other 7 players? Are you afraid because you are scumz?

You do realize by suggesting that Ree put himself in the limelight not just you cause he be one of the 7...

[RachMarie]

actually since this is a mini , most likely we have 3 scumz or 2 scumz and an SK.

[RachMarie]

If there is an investigative role they need to NOT CLAIM we have enough claims floating about and at least if Shos or I get NKed it provides info... same with the neighbor claims, but losiing an investigative role will really hurt us

[RachMarie]

ehh not sure... but he is not helping us iffen he IS town...

need to look at ISOs too I think particularly of the ones who have not claimed.

[RachMarie]

Also Ree goes in my town pile, because I just cant see scum Ree suggesting a plan that puts him at risk for being lynched. Too much risk

[RachMarie]

I know and we ARE masons

Good news is when one of us is NKed it will prove it and make the other one conf town.

[RachMarie]

Nacho-MS, Rach-Shos, Yates-ETL. (Neighbours and Masons)

That leaves: Me, Null, broomhead, Dr. P., Mac, Stubbs, TSO

TSO's ISO leads me to believe he's town
Stubbs' ISO also reads as town
Mac's ISO leaves something to be desired. Null here.
Dr. P'S. ISO Doesn't ring any alarm bells. Townish
Broomhead can go to my scum pile.
Null: townish

Let's start outside the pairings. We can sort that out later. I recommend isoing Broom.

unvote: RachMarie,

Vote: Broomhead

@Null: She is still very much a scumread for me. I'm giving her a break based on the Mason claim. Like I said, we can sort that out later.

This plan is what I meant


Pedit what happened to your usual net Serra?

I'm travelling for a few days. I'll be back in civilisation Tuesday evening.

[RachMarie]

No what I bolded the part about looking OUTSIDE of the parings duh

[RachMarie]

Yates

What do you think of Brooms continuing to not understand what Ree meant? I kinda spelled it out pretty clear that it is far less likely that a scum Ree would recommend a plan that puts him in the lynching pool instead of pushing for one of the 6 of us as being scummy. (Compare that response with ETL and her megatunneling)....

At this point with the claims we have, it makes sense to lynch from the non claimants. It cuts down the potential for a mislynch since at least one of the 7 is very likely to be scumz, while we probably dp not have 2 or 3 scumz among the 6 of us.

On top of that losing a PR due to a mislynch is worse than losing a VT though I wouild rather we nail scum instead.

Fact of the matter is, of the 6 of us, Shos and I are far more likely to be NKed since we can confirm each other as town. Even though several of us have stated that neighbors are not always all town, it is human nature to think if you are town, then your neighbor must be too. So they are probably not the first targets.

Based on NKs we can find out if one of the neighbor pair is lying.

Same with our Mason claim.

[RachMarie]

uggh we are Masons not Millers...

Yes I will talk with him tonight in the QT.

[RachMarie]

I will ISO Nul and a few others later and see if I can narrow things down more.

I need to tie up a few loose ends and then go lay down for a while. Feeling better, but tween the heat and this nasty bug I am wiped.

[RachMarie]

you are pretty experienced, but wanted to make sure no one else got confused.

[RachMarie]

uggh if not broom then whom Ree?

which reminds me

VOTE: Broom

He is now at L-1 Do NOT hammer without declaring intent first and giving him a chance to speak and claim and yadda yadda...

[RachMarie]

ohhh I missed that sorry

[RachMarie]

Yeah we all know derp hammering can happen dont we Ree lol

uggh I still feel bad about doing that... Especially since no matter what my alignment I believe in giving everyone a chance to speak before hammering them.

[RachMarie]

What on earth is going on here? Is it something in the air?

Nacho : Why would scum Ree suggest a plan (that is look at the 7 who are not claimed as either neighbors or masons) that puts him AT RISK for being lynched? Why is it so suspicious to you that Yates and several of the rest of us agreed its a good idea to focus on the non claimed peeps the 7 of them, and try to find the scum in that group. We have a much better chance of being right, and less problems if we are wrong.


ETL I was not in the game with the fake claimed Masons, but my fiance NS was. Gay Mafia two of the scumz declared they were Masons, then the real Masons claimed, They turned out to be more than Masons though due to the nature of the game--they were vengeful mason lovers lol. It was a large theme game with a 3rd party (NS) as an AIDS giver.

In general though fake claiming Masons is stupid for scum to do. You might really look at the possibility that oh Shos and I ARE Masons. Just a thought.


Time is running short on us and a NL is very bad juju and just gives the scum a free kill.

We need to NOT LYNCH the following

Yates
ETL
NachoP (Bert)
MS
Shos
Rach

Out of the 7 remaining we need to quickly determine who is the most scummy and lynch them BEFORE the deadline...

[RachMarie]

Pool of 6 claims

[RachMarie]

Seems some peeps are not willing to do that Ree.

[RachMarie]

Fine

since we are changing things ,,,

Deadline is only a bit over a day away...


VOTE: MS

That is L-1.

[RachMarie]

I think NachoP (Bert) is being a bit of a VI but probably is town... His play is very similar to the game I was in with him, and I just see him as an easy target or PL. Of the two, MS seems more scummy. How can you state that a NL on DAY ONE is a good idea MS? It is not.

[RachMarie]

Wait DP are you saying they fake claimed Neighbors? Cause I do not see an all scum Neighbor pair. In my experience, they have either both been town or one town and one scum.


Dont worry so much Bert there are far more solid townies in this group that are more likely to be NKed chill dude.

[RachMarie]

relax Bert it is perfectly fine to PM the mod and let him know there has been a lynch.

[RachMarie]

Mac How can you be sure ?

We can think he is scumz, but until we get the flip we have no proof what his alignment is so when someone says sure it makes me suspicious.

[RachMarie]

yes we are both alive which surprises me Shos.

Would rather have ETL but going along with you on this one

VOTE: Broom

[RachMarie]

ETL

seriously chick iffen you are Town you are definitely on the wrong path here... What are you going to do when I flip Town Mason, and I most definitely will.....

Both of us in our QT assumed one of us would be dead so no it really was a surprise.

[RachMarie]

Why in particular do you say that Yates?

Grilling her might be a good idea.... She still is stuck in uber tunnel mode. And refuses to even look at anyone else... Not a good sign, after all it is also important to have town reads as well as scum reads so you have PoE to help you scum hunt. She is refusing to even consider the possibility that she is wrong about me which pings my scumdar something fierce.... a townie should always have at least a bit of doubt even when they are pretty sure about someone unless there is something like a cop confirmed guilty.




DP do you have any scum games onsite? that are completed so you can link me ?

[RachMarie]

what about one on and one off the wagon? it is possible that there is only one scum on the MS lynch. And that two sat it out.

But I definitely will take a good look at fuzzy and DP

[RachMarie]

BTW Yates you need to fix your tags....

It is making it look like MS was scumz and you too lol....

[RachMarie]

yeah I was thinking the same thing....

[RachMarie]

This is not a bastard game it is a mini normal and having a bastard mod would not pass the requirements to be a Normal game.

[RachMarie]

I feel like going all MOM on both of you...

Duh ETL Mac is probably right and Yates was RBed or maybe there is a Mafia JK (that happens sometimes). He was pretty much leading Town yesterday. Why are you so quick to assume someone is scumz and stick with it? Why so angry?

[RachMarie]

I know that was to Shos, and yes Broom and ETL were the two ones we had most agreement on in our mason QT. But I am answering how I am feeling at this point.

The more paranoid part of me is wondering if this whole thing on Yates is a big gambit and she is indeed scumz

The logical part of me is skeptical that all this rage could be staged.... Its not jiving with how she and Kibbles won the scum game that I was the IC in....

Shos I think we should stick with Broom and see what happens tonight when Yates grills her...

[RachMarie]

umm would that be a premature exclamation? Ree

[RachMarie]

Bert
You mean her rage posts?

I rarely rage more of a logical and big picture kinda gal.

[RachMarie]

whoops double post

Serra would you get rid of one of my doubled posts. Not sure why that happened?

yeah but it seems a bit too sustained for scum I think? I have not seen scum do that, and in general when she played scum and won, she had moments of rage, but the rest of the time was far calmer.

[RachMarie]

Welcome Infinity

I presume you are an alt since I dont remember an Infinity playing that game?

[RachMarie]

oh ok

I will admit that was NOT my best performance Grey Ice was being like crazy on me because of something he saw in Rev and everyone was town reading him... I even thought he might be a SK the way things were going.

I also did not appreciate his personal attacks on me and my fiance but you go with what you got...

[RachMarie]

I think he was trying to explain that a cop cant investigate themselves any more than a doc can protect themselves, not that he was saying he was a cop, at least that was my reading on that.

Infinity Nachopapa (his main is Bert), is prob town and a newbie. He played a lot like this in the completed game I posted early on under his main that we were in together.

[RachMarie]

umm ya all do know there is a likelihood of 3 scumz right? It is a Mini Normal, and usually they have 3 or 2 plus a SK, but we have not had 2 kills and its unlikely that both a SK and the scum would hit the same target.

So I am going with that there is 3 scumz. Occam's Razor and all that...

inifinity
why you so sure that Broom is town?

[RachMarie]

infinity

Why would Scum Ree bring forth a plan that makes him a good lynch candidate? As in the plan to focus on the non claimed players looking for scumz?

[RachMarie]

honey its not personal I am suspicious of everyone to some extent unless they are conf town... Like my Mason buddy.....

[RachMarie]

hey that looks like it was a fun game with that bunch of peeps

[RachMarie]

Im here sorry peeps RL has been kicking my ass...
But a couple of pieces of GOOD news.....

1. Tomorrow afternoon I get my hearing aids WOOT... That will help a LOT with my energy level. And just in time for going to my 30 year class reunion.

2. NS ordered me from Amazon a chair pillow and a bed desk so I can sit on the bed with my legs up and be on the computer which should help increase a lot my computer time both for work and play.

[RachMarie]

now back to the game...

I cant see any scum leaving ETL alive and choosing someone else to NK if they knew she was the doc...

So that means ETL now Infinity and Yates are town...

hmmm

Sorry about suspecting you Infin I know how crappy it is being Doc I get that role so many times lol.

DP based on her posts she seemed to assume that the neighbor pairs had to be all town like with Masons. I think she realized that later and that is probably why she was so upset.

Gonna ISO some peeps and see what we can find.

[RachMarie]

infin I have been lynched on D 1 as a unCCed doc....

Granted it was a Diffusion of Power setup, but I was the N 1 Doc? And I was lynched by SEVEN townies... and the dude I was gonna protect helped lynch me LOL and yep the scumz NKed him like I thought they would.

[RachMarie]

Why not leave us for NK bait? No way is the scum gonna let both of us live til LYLO.

Anyways I am gonna read through some ISOs and see what I come up with since its clear my main scumspect is an un CCed Doc...

[RachMarie]

yeah I know

[RachMarie]

With the neighbors its not as important because there is the possiblity of one of them being scum... But with Masons they know we are confirmed to each other...

[RachMarie]

Broom

not at all upset I was actually being sympathetic about him having the Doc role cause its sucky I know I get it way too much lol.
I was actually surprised that neither Shos nor me died last night... A NK is not so bad its not like we are lovers. And it will verify our claim.

[RachMarie]

Sorry Serra I took your spot

[RachMarie]

Sorry all my knee has really been killing me The new ace bandages started rolling up in the back and cause a massive welt So I was in bed most of the day and night yesterday....

Good news though is I have my new hearing aids woot.

wait what infin is leaving too ?

[RachMarie]

and welcome telo

[RachMarie]

You better be right about this Yates it seems a tad farfetched....

Totally not fitting with Occams Razor....

VOTE: Ree

[RachMarie]

What do you mean there are no other town PRs ???

Masons are PRs though all we do is talk

[RachMarie]

hey I did not say it was a super fantastic PR I just said it was a PR

ok here we go....

Yates said to you that he only had 1 QT? He has claimed neighbors with ETL now Infin, and I presume by that only good PR comment that you do not believe the doc claim, Ree? So how did you and he talk if not by QT? which would bring Yates QTs up to 2 not 1.

[RachMarie]

What happened to lynching from the pool of players who have not claimed?

[RachMarie]

The claimed neighbors (Yates, ETL now Infin), and (Bert and MS)
Claimed Masons (Shos and Rach)

Are all PR claims


And now we have Ree's claim of interrogator.

[RachMarie]

We know that Bert is for sure a neighbor because of MS's flip, though there is the possibility that he is a scum it is not super likely, I think he would be playing rather differently than this iffen he was scumz.

I and Shos know that we are indeed Masons and both of us are Town.

The reason we were looking at people outside of these 6 was actually originally Ree's idea. I still think it is a good plan. Of these 6, at most there is 1 scum maybe, and a fair number of townies, while in the other pool of players there is likely to be 2 scumz maybe all 3. It increases our chances greatly.

[RachMarie]

but wait Ree if they are bogus then how could Infin be the Doc?

He either is or is not. Cant be both

So either Yates was lying about them being bogus and telling the truth of Infins role OR he was lying about Infin being a Doc and telling the truth about the Doc claim being bogus.

[RachMarie]

Personally the response he (Infin) had after he was outted and I talked about being sympathetic sounded too genuine for Infin to be fake claiming.

VOTE: Yates

[RachMarie]

Ok back from the class reunion and nope we have to have a lynch...

Welcome KA

I think you should interrogate Broom after we lynch Yates Ree that will definitely give us more info. Meanwhile Shos and I should be good NK bait tonight. After all scum cant leave us to LYLO or they lose.

Yates the fact that someone died while you were being interrogated does not confirm you as town, since after all there is more than one scum.... All it does is confirm that you did not make a kill.

[RachMarie]

we need a lynch and clearly the wagon on Yates is going nowhere fast...

Hammering Mac


VOTE: Mac

[RachMarie]

We can revisit it tomorrow Ree

well whoever is still here.... pretty sure Shos or I wont be.

[RachMarie]

Please if I am not here lynch Yates tomorrow

[RachMarie]

oh and on a non game note... I had a lot of FUN at my reunion on Sat night

[RachMarie]

wait what someone actually tried to kill me?


I was interrogated last night.

[RachMarie]

I figured the scumz would go after my mason partner Shos

[RachMarie]

Sorry I did not get to chat with you Shos and lets get scumz this time lynched...

[RachMarie]

We talked a LOT about Broom and Yates... And once again Yates is trying to slur the good names of the Mason pair...

He is currently at L-2 however, and I want to be sure everyone has had a chance to talk before we finish giving him the rope.

I was actually surprised to be interrogated I figured Ree was going to either do Broom or do Shos if he was going for a protection.... I am still very surprised the scumz did not go after Shos the better player of the two of us...

Which tells me that they are scared of me? The usual lynchbait??

That confirms in my mind that Broom is Yates' partner.

[RachMarie]

Yep explains the slurs Ree after all iffen he can convince the town the Masons are lying, he can maybe get me lynched and then NK Shos

[RachMarie]

ehh why did you vote for Shos instead of me there Yates hmm?

[RachMarie]

I cant post in the QT atm Shos but feel free to reread our discussion on N 1 I covered that already...

Just listen to how Yates is scrambling... Yesterday he went on about how one of us had to die cause scum cant afford to keep us alive til LYLO because its an autowin iffen they do...

Now today he is all why would I as scum NK either of the mason claims or Ree?


keep on scrambling there Yates.

And hello? Shos is more scummy? than me ? who is usually lynch bait? The one whom ETL was so sure was scumz?

[RachMarie]

Yates

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Ree ever hear of bussing for town cred?

[RachMarie]

I though nul replaced out?

yeah hes flailing all over the place


INTENT TO HAMMER do not hammer before I get a chance to... Wait for everyone to have a chance to speak we have plenty of time here, and Yates is not going anywhere so we can lynch him no worries...

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Why you in such a hurry fuzzy?

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That is why I am holding the hammer Ree...

I can hold it for a good long time til things are accomplished.

In my first Newbie game I held it for 2 days waiting for the IC to make his case and defense... then I hammered him.....

Unfortunately or fortunately to some people lol, most of that game is lost in the major crash over a year ago...

[RachMarie]

That totally SUCKED I genuinely miscounted the votes on that one or I would have definitely declared intent first LOL

Pedit

Bussing is when you push lynching your scum bud for town cred...

[RachMarie]

umm wait a minute Fuzzy

Yates is one of the neighbor claims and so is Bert... and not the same neighbors either, so yeah If we are right (and I think we are) Yates being scum means it is very unlikely for Bert to be scumz, Though it does not rule out the ETL/Infin/??? replacement. (was that Telo or KA?) Because it could have been a fake claim of neighbors... We wont know til we have a flip of either Yates or the other one..

We do know that Bert is a Neighbor cause MS flipped Neighbor...

[RachMarie]

There are two kinds of neighbors Telo...

1. There is a PR called a Neighborizer who can choose at night someone to be neighbors with, and in that case usually they have it set up that he can only be neighbors with town.

2. At the beginning of the game neighbors are randomly assigned and in that case it is possible that one of the neighbors is scum and the other town. But not both of them being scum, usually.

[RachMarie]

Since this is a mini normal, I doubt there is too much variation though, especially with the one dynamic being a sort of non normal role (Ree)

So what that means is

Either Yates and KA are both scum and they fake claimed Neighbor, OR

They are neighbors and Yates is scum whilst KA is town... I am leaning that direction...

And Broom is still my other primary scumspect.

After that not sure, though Fuzzy wanting the day to be over before everyone has chimed in kinda pings my scumdar a tad...

[RachMarie]

the question becomes why do you think he is town KA?

[RachMarie]

No sig bets I saw two players get mod killed for that in a large game...

[RachMarie]

ok good

but yeah that really blew having two players modkilled at the same time, and both were TOWN too....

In a game this small it would even be worse..

[RachMarie]

Let me know when everyone has had their say and I will hammerz

[RachMarie]

whats happening in 10 hrs broom? lol

We have 11 days so its not like we are on deadline here...

[RachMarie]

Not planning on it, scum stew is better after it stews a while...

Oh and Bert the word is punctuality

[RachMarie]

wait what did broom just scum slip majorly???

you are not one of the claimed Masons or Neighbors so who would you be talking with that you cant while you are V/LA on your camping trip?

[RachMarie]

thanks DP now I cant get an answer from him lol

but yeah did not think of that angle

[RachMarie]

Waiting for Ree not Yates


then DA HAMMAH

[RachMarie]

Bah win it for me guys n gals ♥

[RachMarie]

wow totally surprised here...

See ETL I TOLD YOU I was town and you dinna believe me

Sorry about that Yates

Bert wow I totally did NOT suspect you enough bah no more free passes from me buddy now that I know what you can do I know now the silly act is just that an act you are better than you appear

fuzzy sigh figures

DP too surprised me uggh

Anyways was a good game, and I am sorry I was not able to do more in it just been a lot of RL stuffs going on.

[RachMarie]

Loved the setup BTW Serra would love to run it sometime ♥

[RachMarie]

which queue?

[RachMarie]

When things settle down a bit I plan on putting together a mini theme game and sending it in to be reviewed.

It will be a fantasy D and D style game kinda based on Neverwinter Nights 2

[RachMarie]

hmmm did not know about that?

Anyways still was a very fun setup, maybe it could be added to and made a large game?

[RachMarie]

Wow they really wanted me dead I guess I am special lol

Why me over shos?

[RachMarie]

LMAO yeah sure I am

[RachMarie]

LOL ..... I was gonna say