Mini 1452 - Inevitable Mafia (Game Over)

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hello friends! i have to go drinking now so my first real contributions to this game will have to wait on my hangover tomorrow.

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vote: rob

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radiant is town, gorc is town, admiral is town

mason partner should claim today

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What led you to the conclusion that Radiant is town? I want a SINGLE thing that makes him seem even the SLIGHTEST like town.

P-edit: Yeah, that.

1) you railroading him

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claim your partner

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radiant feel free to prove your town-ness by shooting dcl

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no its a good idea.

and rob, i'm telling him to shoot dcl because you will have already been lynched by then, so he won't have to shoot you. if dcl would go ahead and claim his partner already radiant could instead commute/investigate tonight, inviting the mafia to play a fun wifomy game of "do we try to kill the roll that can opt to self protect"

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fos: yates

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yeah ok its rob-yates-dcl

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what constitutes a "reason"?

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yeah ok its rob-yates-dcl

3 reasons CoolDog isn't scum Go.

how about you give three reasons why he is. i looked through your iso and found a grand total of one remark that seems to masquerade as a reason but is actually just that he's on the other side of the "should we force the second mason claim" debate from you.

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not one of those things amounts to any more than a difference in opinion on matters of game theory. you don't demonstrate in any way why these things are scummy.

pedit: dcl your whole point is based on you being a mason, which is still something i'm not willing to take your word on since a solo mason is basically half a claim. sans mason claim i find you very suspicious, and you've done nothing but hide behind it and try to string up anyone who deigns to question it.

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admittedly that was uninspiring but i'm still expecting a town flip, we should be lynching rob. he's not this much of a trollish dick to people as town.

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i'm obviously pro-shooting-rob

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no, we should either lynch rob, or he should be vig'd. i am also not against radiant commuting tonight because he is that obvtown.

nhammen - there will be reasons when and if i ever feel like giving reasons. deal with it. if you want to make 'does not give reasons' the basis of your scumhunting well, go ahead and have fun with that.

the tmt wagon i'm not so happy about. why is everyone acting like rob is unlynchable? there's plenty of time to get your votes over here.

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also wtf hoopla gorckat is town stop suggesting dumb things

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hoopla - give me your opinion on yates, please and thank you

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unvote, vote: yates

it is also not too late for everyone to switch to yates

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hoopla, your "we can only lynch this subset of people" stance is part of why i want to lynch yates

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the people i'm suspicious of are all in your "we're arbitrarily not lynching (or vigging) these people" pool, which makes me suspicious of you trying to strongarm the town into not lynching them.

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hey, sorry for my absence. life is complicated.

vote: yates

i'm a vt

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dcl why do you have hoopla as a townread?

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this is why i just want to know who the second mason is, because i'm tired of everyone saying we shouldn't attack scummy people cause they might be the mason. if hoopla is the mason then telling me not to lynch yates yesterday because *he* might be the mason was ass backwards retarded.

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i'll be wanting to lynch hoopla when yates flips scum

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i call bullshit

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see scum dance

dance scum, dance!

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y'all

stop sniping at each other like adolescent girls

for real

now let's quietly wait for the scum flip so we can stop debating what the deeper meaning is of a guy who just got caught making up every kind of lie in the book

and remember (in case i'm gone) to lynch hoopla tomorrow

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and remember (in case i'm gone) to lynch hoopla tomorrow

why?

for admitting you found yates scummy while not voting for him yesterday

and for the entire "we must lynch from this list of people and ignore everyone else" stance you took, which never passed the smell test in the first place

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yeah, that'll be proven wrong when the lynch you prevented me from accomplishing yesterday flips scum today

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do you really think yates has a better reason to call us scum than the flailing of a lynched scumbag? i only became scum to him after i started nailing his ass to the wall, and the nhammen thing came completely out of left field. mind you i think its pretty likely that makes nhammen his third partner, but i'm more concerned with getting hoopla lynched because she is a slicker operator and i don't trust the town to get the job done on her without me

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yeah, that'll be proven wrong when the lynch you prevented me from accomplishing yesterday flips scum today

he could easily have been a mason. that was more important. you're just being results oriented.

you're just being scum. there are probably zero scum on that dcl wagon you picked to make your narrowed pool out of. that's why i hated the idea in the first place.

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Rolf that was one of the dumbest comments I've read. Of course there was scum on the masons wagon.

really? lets remember this post at the end of the game. "there has to be scum on a wagon on town" is the biggest fallacious trap that stupid town players fall into, and clever scum players take advantage of.

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So you think out of 3-4 potential scum, not one was on the claimed masons wagon?

correct

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you did fuck all on day one, so you don't get to take the moral highground. i'm pretty much done with this argument, so i'm going to defer to my original response that still applies here. peace.

don't go acting all pissed off about it, this is a game. you're right, i did fuck all day one, i've done fuck all today,

that doesn't mean i'm wrong

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That's dumb.

I wouldn't be suprised if its Yates, n, and Rofl together with Yates taking a gambit.

well, you have fun with that one, i suppose. but let me just point out that if your insane fantasy were true, that would make me right about the dcl wagon being all town

(the appropriate response to that is to say "touché" then sleep on it for the night because now you're just acting the fool)

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vote: nhammen

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bro wagon is terrible, radiant you need to not be so reactionary

my best guess right now is nhammen+hoopla+(admiral/gorc) but i'm leaning admiral for that third spot

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its the reason I'm leaning admiral over gorc

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dead game is dead. more votes for nhammen. or lets flashwagon hoopla or something.

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jmo it seems like you're not thinking this through. if we lynch rc to "confirm" his role result on cool, then cool will just get killed tonight. and do you really disbelieve rc's claim at this point, the only power role claim aside from the mason pair?

and on the topic of masons, i'd rather not see a claim today since i'm 99% sure we've got another scum lynch on lockdown so it won't be lylo tomorrow either.

vote: hoopla

last scum is either gorc or admiral. i will figure out which one for sure after hoops flips scummy scum scum.

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Yes, obvious town. thats why he got lynched.

lets clear this up. i also thought tmt was obvtown. he got lynched because hoopla used her "i'm a power player" cred to shove a lynch through on a relatively easy target.

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jmo, you don't think hoopla is scum, so you must think she is town. why do you think she is town?

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mod, can you edit the opening post to include role flips for all the dead players?

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broseiden whats stopping you from voting for hoopla

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mod i was already voting hoopla but once again

vote: hoopla

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hey everybody i'm feeling lazy so you should all triple iso nhammen + [does bo know/hoopla] and see for yourself all the scumpartnertells like dbk's inexplicable placement of nhammen in his townpile, nhammen's soft defenses of hoopla and hoopla's distancing efforts in pointing out nhammen 'flying under the radar' then doing absolutely nothing about it

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also i am pretty ready to call it on admiral scum / gorc town but i'm egotistical and want to lynch hoopla first to prove myself right all along

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not claim

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broseidon is very town

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if jmo is the mason i want him to claim so we can stop wasting these two conftown votes on him

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that seems unlikely.

jmo are you seriously not the mason? i've thought you were the mason since like day... two or something

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not counterclaiming obviously

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radiant you know you want to vote for hoopla

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thadmiral, why aren't you voting? you said, "i'm that confident that gork is scum i'm happy to go 1 for 1 with him."

gorc who did you think the mason was?

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i've pretty much known it was jmo for a while so i didn't want him to claim til i looked and realized that both of the other conftowns were voting for him

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yeah but we were wasting the town's time with those two voting for you, now things are actually getting done

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her day two just seems like she was trying to rally the troops. typically scum like to let town shit all over itself.

jmo what specifically seemed like hoopla rallying the troops, and why do you think that isn't something scum would be doing (especially a high caliber player like hoopla)

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thinking gorckat, more probably tomorrow these doubles be killin' me brah

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i don't want to lynch broseiden

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i'm still deciding

my worst fear is that you're scum with cooldog

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i care. worst fear doesn't mean its likely. what do you think happened to the mafia kill night one?

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i am not an undeclared doctor

i need to go back and read how nhammen reacted to your claim etc

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it would be sweet if you unvoted while i try to figure some shit out, though ockham's razor is telling me both scum are already voting for bro

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you're so obsessed with this two scum theory. are

you

scum alone?

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i can play this game too. y'all should read the nhammen+radiant double iso

radiant and nhammen dance around the edges of each other for the first several days. they don't directly address each other. nhammen quotes radiant once early to "agree with the first part and disagree with the second part," and when nhammen is part of the very first radiant wagon radiant never once brings up nhammen's vote while railing on and on against the other votes on the wagon.

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bro if you're still online read those isos and tell me if you see what i see

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vote: gorckat

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i think the point about admiral/gorc not crossvoting after spending days nominally calling each other main scumreads is really good

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also smell the desperation coming from those admiral posts about hurrying up and getting bro lynched

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talk to me, i'm here. well sort of, my shitty at&t internet keeps dropping every other minute. but i'm intermittently here.

unvote, vote: admiral

admiral > rc > gorc > bro > cooldog

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i thought about it, but i'm not for it. cooldog will die and we'll be exactly where we are now.

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except minus the safeguard against two-person quickhammers that being at mylo and not lylo provides

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You're still confident that CD isn't scum? Why?

That's the part that I'm tripping up on. I'm a lot less confident now that he's town than I was before.

cooldog scum would have hammered you. even if rc were scum, cool would be the safest option to fake an inno on because basically everyone agreed long before the investigation that cool-scum would never have been so hardline against dcl's mason claim day one. which now that i think about it makes cool an extra shitty investigation choice by rc.

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gorc we're lynching admiral come on

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i'm against this turn of events

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2 scum vs 2 masons 9 townies is pretty balanced imo, if rc is scum he's alone (see also: rc's obsession with a solo scum remaining)

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no lynch is still the least favorable. ad lynch over rc lynch, because of the whole rc would be scum alone if he's scum thing

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cool do you have any specific reason to townread admiral?

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i'm still not a doctor, but i'm not vanilla either

my home internet went down today so i'm stuck phone posting til it gets fixed

radiant is confscum

vote: radiantcowbells

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want to go ahead and claim your super secret info on cool dog?

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lol traitor doesn't scan innocent good try though

gorc is conftown by virtue of not hammering bro

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link your traitor meta while i suffer through navigating the wiki by mobile to prove you wrong

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all right fine you're right that traitors can scan innocent they are not standardized (but should be), regardless if this was your super secret info wtf was with your play re cool yesterday

pedit: or what? you're in no position to be making ultimatums scum

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let's wait and see if anyone with half a brain can figure out what i actually did last night

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keep guessing this is fun

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getting colder

brb taco bell non nom

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(gorc did you figure out what i am?)

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once again, if this traitor theory was your "secret info" yesterday then what on earth were you doing all day?

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x-shot roleblocker

blocked radiant last night

gg

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woooooooooo

sorry hoopla i swear to god scum reading you made sense when i thought there were three scum

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it was a valiant effort. good claim.

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if only we had lynched radiant yesterday i could have gone through the whole game never using my ability

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thanks guys!

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i agree that nhammen wasn't immediately obvious, rc thinking so probably had more to do with

knowing

he was scum and therefore reading everything posted as scummier.

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i have that problem like every single time i roll scum, its some kind of confirmation bias thing