Mini 1521: The Fall - Game Over

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/confirm

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Oh this can start now with 11/13 right?
So
VOTE: iamausername for total uncreativity In username creation.

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I am fairly sure that ald just was rving funnikty

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I think it is a very weak reason

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Actually Hopkirk is renting it from you
VOTE: slandaar

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Ald look at my other two games that is my play style

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So you decide to question and throw suspicion on someone for being suspicious of someone then just going right in and voting that person yourself... I don't like that.
VOTE: ald

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I wouldn't expect you to vote the guy who you just threw suspicion on people for being suspicious of him. Really anyone but him in this case. I really am not understanding the thought process that went into that, could you please explain that to me?

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So also I was debating joining the hk wagon but have decided to leave my vote where it is.

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Also ald you are asking him a question and they way it is worded sounds like you are suspicious of him. So I may just be reading that the wrong way but that is what I'm seeing. There are people who have contributed less than jake and producing less content and such, like sonofzeus. If you want to vote someone up who hasn't posted much why not him?

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Maybe... I'll wait for ald to answer though
Pedit.
Then jake please show me where because I really dont see much/any reasoning.

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So he is positioning himself as leader by having L-3 on page 3? How so Mr. Gnarl?

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damn I was right about you? awesome. more votes on hop please. Attacking a person for not RVS'ing is like scumtell numero uno

Very strong case jake.

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Ya I'm kind of seeing that where he says reaction to it is bad but not reall

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And what gives you that idea gray?

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He was already caught three pages ago

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Well I don't think you are that scummy but you are my largest scum read currently. I am also glad that other people agree with me in this case so I can get more pressure on you.

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We need some more people. It may not happen today or maybe even all of day 1 one but mark my words if I am able I will pressure you.

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What am I talking about? The part where I found that ald was scum on page 3. That part

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Hi gray I notice you didn't answer my question.

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So why don't you oblige me and answer it?

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What is this mysterious reason you speak of?

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The quite said you need reasons. Givem

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Don't you think all vote need reasons?

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Yiley, what do you think of Hopkirk?

I honestly don't know right now. I currently have him as null. I can see places from which both town and mafia would do some of the things he has done

Of course not, silly. You only needed to explain it if you kept your vote, which you didn't.

I thought you were being sarcastic but I see now; you were paying attention.

I gave Hopsy the Benefit of the doubt.

Don't you think all vote need reasons?

Take a look at JKLM tell me what you think of him, town, scum, got no idea?
(hint: hes scum)

I haven't seen him post much so I couldn't really say much about it.

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Ya I'm gonna go read an alduskell game now.

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Because we moving on. But I wouldn't mind maybe actually voting him sometime but my vote is great where it is currently. @jfsf

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I will agree there I did like the way he handled that and feel pretty good about gray right now.

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Even if you are unconfident in your reads you still lynch or try to lynch them to see if you are right.

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I want an answer here. Or do you even have a reason gray? Are you just randomly saying That to make some action or something? Reaction test? Spill it.

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Trust me you haven't seen me freak out yet. This is me just slightly frustrated. Do you want to see me freak out?

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I give thanks for mafia

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Also isn't grey named just graygnarl not thegraygnarl? Slandaar where is your case vs jklm, because has he even posted enough for anyone to get a read on him?

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Looks like it
Really there are multiple people I wouldn't mind voting but my vote is on a scum now so I'm not changing it.

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Nice subject change ald

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Ald isn't voting me though

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You know what ald? Those four words just entirely changed my entire point of view in this game and I will just suddenly and mysteriously trust you. Oh wait. I won't. Never mind.

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My case is I can't see town doing what ald has done. My gut is with it as well. Every time my gut has talked so far it has been right. I am not saying 100% for sure but I am very sure

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Hasn't eg already explained that? Do you want me to just copy and paste what she said or go read that yourself?

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I do. But I'm lazy and don't see the need to type something out again when someone else already said it. If I feel someone has already said something correctly whoevere they are I'll just refer people to that. In this case it was eg, but if you were to say something then I was asked something similar and I felt your answer answered it I'd use it.

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No because I was on you before eg

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Then explain what you saw that made him scum. The fact that you admit you have nothing besides what emogirl said is bad. Can you give a summary of what she said?

So why do you need a summary? Are you like semi blind or lazy or something? I think you are perfectly able to read it yourself instead of trying to look like a mafia...

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Just so,you know I'm am fairly bad at this this is only the third game of any type of mafia I have ever played.

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Ebwop
I have played some epic mafia but that is entirely different.

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Ok so then do you think if you lynch me and I'm town (which I am) that Hopkirk is clear? I could make it really obvious for you and claim if you want.

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I won't claim for scum just seeing if he wants me to.

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I won't claim for scum just seeing if he wants me to.

3 questions:

Why would I want you to claim?

because you are pushing on me and stuff to get some idea of what is in the game or what I think is in game, maybe?

Why are you emogirl's bitch?

I'm not, I just follow people who have same opinions as me just say it better

Why would Hopkirk be clear if you are town?

you are saying if I'm scum he's scum etc. so what if I'm town? Is he more town or more scum? That is basically what I'm trying to ask there.

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I don't know I still don't really know that much. My second newbie game was very inactive and didn't really learn anything. Also my reads are quite clear, I find ald mafia I was scum reading you, gray but you have managed to climb to null. Also I suck at readin and I am a pure gut reader, but in my first game ever of mafia I nailed both scum day 1, but was noob and didn't know how to drive it and they became town reads leading to a scum win and one very confused nachomamma8

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That means what? His opinion currently is that he thinks scum are in the people he out as scummy... Can you not understand that or something?

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Ald I don't have a scum meta as of yet I have never been scum.

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Because other people have done scummy things including yourself. And did you just bring up him lying after you lied? Lawl.

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im going to announce

intent to hammer

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And Yiley I still want your read on me don't be shy.

im reading you null/townish currently

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I have scum read him for a while just haven't posted anything on it ald

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Then who would the other person be dude and have we even talked at all?

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Oh didn't see that. I didn't post anything on it because i was trying to do something productive and it really wasn't the strongest read until the sequence of events before my ith made a fairly strong read. So you know I haven't dropped you you are still scum read 1

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He was my second scum read and I'm fine with either of you getting lynched right now.

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Care to explain your reaction to it grey?

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That question dodge. Answer please

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Why did you react that way? Pretty obv

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Your reaction to l-2/1. I see what you did there

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Could we get another prod on peregrine?n

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Reads change over 200 post sland... Are you saying that 200 posts from now you will still have the exact same suspicions as you do right now? I would bet not.

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Yes 'suspicions' do change. 200 posts ago I didn't suspect grey or you quite as much.
VOTE: slandaar

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How will you prove to me that you are 100% town?

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My intent is still active

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I am fairly sure that if grey is scum ald is scum.
I think emo is I scum if grey flips town

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And I wake up to a lovely couple pages of two people going back and forth.

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Hey son of Zeus what are your current reads.

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Jake you argue too much.

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Arguing is but not when your arguments make up a significant portion of the game.

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So emo what you are saying is anyone who is bad at mafia I.e. Me, is automatically scum?

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Ok why are you buddying slandaar. I think they are all too afraid of you.

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Can we agree emo likes tunneling?

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Well you were more tunneling on ald but you also tunneled on grey after that. And honestly the jake slandaar stuff I have just been skimming.

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And he apologized for that no longer an issue.

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Um yay I'm a policy lynch because I'm bad...

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Yes could you please tell me how username is the only one who could have killed mr. Johnson?

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Ya I still don't get that. Eg please explain. Please.

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Only logical kill for username was don? Is that assuming that he thought the was a protective role on slandaar and inexplicably didn't want to kill you? Or that you and sland are both scum with username? Cus I'm seeing stuff here...

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The reason for that was because that is what it looked like but circumstances changed. Also you said username had to have killed don? What I basicly said is I would think username and any scum partners would want to night kill you or claimed pr. So this is reigniting my suspicion of you and/or sland.

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Only because of your so called evidence. I let off of that but you are making me suspicious of you. I think you may be majorly overestimating username. I don't think he is a priority kill.
I still don't get that username is only person who could have done it thing. Explain.

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I have read it I really don't get that.

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Lots of good content (alignment doesn't matter here) and no scum read on me (applied to about half the game)-anyone can frame. Emo's actual argument isn't that the situation could only apply to username but that only username would try and frame someone.

My argument is not solely based on the crazy conspiracy theory of username framing Slandaar. That was a side thought.

To respond to you saying that don_johnson has lots of good content, I agree with you to a certain extent. However he did only analyze 8 pages and hammered grey, who flipped town. Explain to me why any sane person, would kill him, instead of leaving him alive as lynch bait.

Looking at the list of people that should have been shot, I am very weary that username did not get shot over don_johnson. I'm also weary that I did not get shot over don_johnson. Someone on team scum made a conscious decision to kill someone else other than me. This leads me to believe that the night kill was coordinated. With a coordinated kill, I really expected username to die if I didn't.

But we had don_johnson, a lynch bait, shot dead. This means that the only reason why don died was because scum had absolutely no other logical person to kill because username is scum.

If this is your so called reasoning, username would be near the bottom of my killing list if I was scum. I could easily get a Mislynch on him because he is lurking. So this reasoning is flawed. Please tell me with reasoning that makes sense.

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Yes from my pov it does make sense that you did. Or possibly jake. But I think you.

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I did he looked very town to me.

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I thought he was town during the night...

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Null-scum more null though.

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Because I haven't payed attention to him. I would prob still be there if I had though.

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Inb4 both are town

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Yes his cases in one post without ISO hunting would be quite nice. So jolly well I will join you in you quest to force this claimed pr to put all of his scum reads and reasons for said reads into a single post.

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Might still be a regular pr though. Hmm I'm gonna have to think about this.

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So you didn't town read don? If anyone on scum is good scum they would see he was a good town read and killed him. Jake slandaar do you guys have some sort of long running rivalry or something.

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I went and looked at said game. I think both of you acted badly

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I can accept trying to lynch a scum read. I cannot accept most of the game being you and scum read arguing the same things over and over and over.

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Like he can't even admit it, it is embarassing.

His whole game as soon as he realised who I was has been trying to 'get even'

This is clearly not acceptable.

Then stop talking to him. He has clearly asked you to stop conversing with him and you continue, therefore you cannot accuse him of this.

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VOTE: hop :p happy now?

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Both of you guys are being very anti town right now.

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I don't Think mass claiming is a great thing right now but if others doi guess I will. Slandaar you are accusing him of imposing his own meaning on your words? You are doing right back at him so that is a moot point.

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That entire post and you don't really show where he does it just have a huge post and then arbitrarily say that he is doing it. I have hinted I'm pr?

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I don't have a night action. I have no useful information and won't get any during night phase for the rest of the game. I don't care if scum kill me...

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When you were saying username had to be scum when no one else got that from what I saw. Therefore drawing the conclusion that you had a guilty result.

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UNVOTE:
Yes I am mason. I had my vote there trying to to look like I wasn't his partner

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Oh ya VOTE: soz

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So am I allowed to copy paste hops read lost from our qt?

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Ebwop
List

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So got mod ok to post it not copy paste so I'll sit here and type the list out word for word symbol for symbol.
Well considering who is left (probably two mafia out of them):

iamausername- reading as town a little more softly than others
SonOfZeus- scum
AngryPidgeon- reading as town
Jake from State Farm- reading him as town
emogirl123- reading as town (unless they are teamed with angry doing a big bus play)
Slandaar- idk
The-Duck- have been reading as town, could be scum but i don't really think so
He then goes on to mention what would be a very clever scum team of emo and ap but also says far fetched and wants a Zeus lynch.
VOTE: hermy
I would like one as well.

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So your trying to get her to think the pretty much confirmed town is mafia? If anyone thinks that I'm mafia they should just go and think their life over and discover the deeper reason why they are wrong?

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Um wasn't I voting hermy?

Whoops! ~fixed

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I'm gonna hope that Mastin doesn't carry on the lurking ways of his predecessor

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Well as she has already posted that point is wrong and invalid

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Maybe the purpose is to get both scum and/or town speculating and think ing there is a cop

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How do odium have hermy town?

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Ebwop
Have
I want to kill auto correct

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Unless I'm mistaken somehow ap just voted duck. Didn't he?

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So I will prob be able to make it but just in case

Semi V/la starting tommorow until the 18th

This is due to 1 I've got both a lot of basketball games this week but also it is finals week so I might not be able to make it for a large or small amount of time.

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Ok emo you are looking quite scummy right now

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Bah, go town etc.