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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:24 pm

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Post Post #8 (isolation #1) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:34 pm

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Post Post #56 (isolation #2) » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:18 am

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Vote: mastin


Unvote:
Vote: TSO
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Post Post #58 (isolation #3) » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:31 am

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No, I wouldn't say I could.
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Post Post #88 (isolation #4) » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:32 am

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In post 59, Benmage wrote:^Yeah.. I've seen scum enter trying to appear "cutesy".. with rando things liek self votes.... This lynch is a go.
Yeah, I did my best to appear "cutesy" but it just didn't work.

Come on, Benmage.
In post 71, Kazekirimaru wrote:Actually, never mind. Forgot Minis actually required a public VT PM.

Well, damn it.
What does this change at all?
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Post Post #98 (isolation #5) » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:39 pm

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In post 93, Benmage wrote:
In post 88, T S O wrote:
In post 59, Benmage wrote:^Yeah.. I've seen scum enter trying to appear "cutesy".. with rando things liek self votes.... This lynch is a go.
Yeah, I did my best to appear "cutesy" but it just didn't work.

Come on, Benmage.
Ignoring the linguistics... why did you selfvote?
Reactions, of course.
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Post Post #128 (isolation #6) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:59 am

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If Benmage is scum, Kaze too is scum.
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Post Post #133 (isolation #7) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:14 pm

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My posts are always short, they/re never unclear, and it got reactions I wanted off Ben.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #8) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:15 pm

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In post 131, toolenduso wrote:
In post 128, T S O wrote:If Benmage is scum, Kaze too is scum.
I can dig it. But how would Kaze be scum?

And do you have any strong scum reads or town reads?
My reads will come soon.

I think Kaze is good enough to easily pull a stunt like that and I can see Benmage being arrogant enough to clear his buddy.
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Post Post #135 (isolation #9) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:16 pm

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Notice VT PM is not up ---> PM Guyett ---> ask someone and don't respond until Guyett does ---> soak towncred.
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Post Post #139 (isolation #10) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:35 pm

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I'm not accusing you of doing it, I'm saying I don't think you're conftown. I do think you're town, but not to Benmage-level of CONFTOWN EXALTATION
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Post Post #219 (isolation #11) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:16 am

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Gm, I really have no interest in arguing with you, but suffice it to say you were shocking in Lock n' Stock so save your trash talk for when you actually play well.

Kaze's post is crap and I'm leaning Kaze-scum ATM.

Shos, I was basically trying to be an antagonising useless fuck and get reactions. Ben immediately jumped for it, which reads badly.
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Post Post #230 (isolation #12) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:26 am

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Are you going to wagon hop and sheep reasoning the whole game?
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Post Post #232 (isolation #13) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:30 am

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Do you have a problem with me voting myself?
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Post Post #247 (isolation #14) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:59 am

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In post 230, T S O wrote:Are you going to wagon hop and sheep reasoning the whole game?
You never answered that, by the way, as it's all you've done so far.
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Post Post #250 (isolation #15) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:25 am

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In post 150, snifit wrote:Mittens isn't scum. Had a little gut from the early posts but more recent posts are a townie mindset.

I rescind my claim of toolend being obv. town but I maintain that his reaction to mastin is null. More recently, he's trying to be useful in which is good. His rubs me the wrong way but that might just be because TSO is scum.
To expand, I had a strong gut reaction to tool on the first-second page. When I get a gut reaction I try to figure out why. Sometimes I come up with a good reason but sometimes I have to stretch. I'm willing to be wrong about him.

People still voting Naio are either scum or haven't played with noob town before. Or just aren't reading the game.

Everything about TSO is awful. I'm having trouble reading any of his posts at face value. Self-vote, then the obvious posturing when Benmage calls him on it, then the useless warnings about Kaze and Benmage.
VOTE: T S O

@shos
Who's scum?
In post 229, snifit wrote:Struggling for something to post about. shos has been goodposting so that's good to see. The tool wagon seriously needs to die. It's holding the game back. At the very least I'd like to see why people think he's scum--Mittens, for one, is at least honest that it's a shitty wagon. I guess it's the biggest wagon and people are lazy as fuck? This is town is much better than that.

TSO needs rope but no one else seems to care enough. I liked shos' points about goodmorning so
VOTE: goodmorning

@Cooldog
What's your read on goodmorning? And why are you voting for someone who's not getting lynched?
In post 234, snifit wrote:Not going to let scum antagonize me. Looks like you're going all-in on this 'be intentionally useless and no one will think I'm scum' plan. Good luck with it.
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I guess the weekend was rough on activity. TSO's my top choice for lynch, so if anyone's interested I'm right there with you. Going to pursue other avenues in the meantime. I actually have a lot of townreads so my lynch pool is surprisingly small.

@PinkMittens, Taylor
Do you still think toolenduso is a realistic lynch? Reads on CooLDog and goodmorning?
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Post Post #252 (isolation #16) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:21 am

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It seems to me you have no original reasoning whatsoever.
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Post Post #254 (isolation #17) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:46 am

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Unvote:
Vote: Snifit


Now that's a response which deserves a vote.
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Post Post #262 (isolation #18) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:37 pm

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In post 256, Kazekirimaru wrote:Here, have a vote.

VOTE: T S O
And this is why he's in no way conftown.
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Post Post #269 (isolation #19) » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:43 am

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I accepted that accusing you of sheeping was wrong?

You lying, scummy hypocrite
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Post Post #270 (isolation #20) » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:43 am

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Quote it, go on.
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Post Post #276 (isolation #21) » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:01 am

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In post 275, snifit wrote:Oh no shos better remove everything from your post that someone's said before or else every single post you've made in the game will become worthless.

@TSO
You made an accusation and completely failed in providing evidence for it. Then you changed your accusation into a wishy-washy statement. That's what we call 'moving the goalposts' and it means you admitted you were wrong.
But this is
complete rhetoric bullshit.
You're flinging mud and seeing what sticks.

Does anyone notice how he refuses to quote? He can't because he's talking out of his ass.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #22) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:57 am

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Fucking Snifit.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #23) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:47 am

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It's a risk role, I'd say.

gm was so sure Snifit was scum she risked her death.
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Post Post #290 (isolation #24) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:51 am

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Vote: snifit


PEDIT: NO. There's a risk of dying. Dayvig or death, essentially.
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Post Post #292 (isolation #25) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:36 am

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It's a role where you send in a kill but it either goes through or you die (50/50). Hence the term Desperado.

Think of it as Russian Roulette.
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Post Post #294 (isolation #26) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:47 am

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Mod: explain Desperado better than I can.
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Post Post #306 (isolation #27) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:03 am

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I don't fucking believe it
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Post Post #319 (isolation #28) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:47 pm

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In post 317, CooLDoG wrote:
In post 304, toolenduso wrote: @Cool: OK then, let's ignore the whole wincon thing about kaze. He's still town -- his lazy wagon hopping
is
his town meta. I was just in a game with him where he did the same thing as town twice -- ask ETL, she modded.
.
Hello, you just stumbled onto my pet peeve, stupid fucking bullshit meta defenses of people who are doing fucking scummy things. Fuck your stupid argument, it is dumb and you are dumb (and stupid) for using it. If you want reasons why your stupid fucking argument is stupid fucking bullshit then go ahead and meta me because I'm pretty sure I have given reasons why before.
I remember when you tried that before and we lynched you d1!
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Post Post #379 (isolation #29) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:41 pm

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Just popping into say that yes, my lynch is perfectly okay. Never mind snifit being an absolute moron (Jacob play the game? What the actual fuck do you put in your formula bottle), never mind shos completely u-turning on me, don't mind any of that.

Unvote
Vote: TSO


No time and no energy. Fuck it shos, I knew this guy would immediately start a hate lynch of retribution, but I expected better from you.
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Post Post #380 (isolation #30) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:41 pm

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And when I flip Town, I genuinely would not be surprised if scum avoid nk'ing snifit. Yeah, that bad.
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Post Post #383 (isolation #31) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:43 pm

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Kazekirimaru.

In fairness, you showcased my point beautifully.
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Post Post #384 (isolation #32) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:44 pm

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I could also get behind a Kaze vote but I actually want to flip at this stage

yay bipolarism!
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Post Post #390 (isolation #33) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:39 pm

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In post 388, shos wrote:we're definitely not lynching kaze.
TSO, I never u-flipped on you, you're confusing games, you were always scum this game :D

and this selfvote again, I think you're doing it to AtE by now
It's 100% AtE, it's Town not really caring. I'm basically fucking educating you on what happens when someone doesn't care anymore.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #34) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:51 pm

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Jacob doesn't "play".
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Post Post #412 (isolation #35) » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:11 am

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In post 402, Benmage wrote:VOTE: cooldog

tso stop being a fucking child tomorrow

-------#
Yaaay! Depression is for children.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #36) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:53 am

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Let me think, hmm.

I genuinely do not give a fuck what you think of me, EK, but your fucking horrific reasoning for voting basically sums up your play.
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Post Post #431 (isolation #37) » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:35 am

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In post 429, shos wrote:Pink, what are your reads?
Taylor, waiting for yours too with thoughts please

IMO EK is atm bussing TSO.
You mean PinkMittens, who openly admits there's nothing on me but is pushing a policy lynch.

Come on, shos.
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Post Post #432 (isolation #38) » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:40 am

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In post 375, PinkMittens wrote:
I'm so not in the game right now (I haven't had time to go through it properly since the site came back) so I kinda hate to vote for someone right now. That being said, I'd hate letting scum control the lynch (especially on someone I don't want dead) way more. Hence I'll be voting Cool, I don't like the mentality/tone (could indeed make him a lynchbait though, but it's the best I have) of his posts, something feels off and I don't think his votes/conclusions make sense. This is hardly set in stone though, and I have a feeling that sheeping snifit might actually be more useful than my own judgement right now..

VOTE: CoolDog
This is the scum on the wagon, if you're looking for it.
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Post Post #434 (isolation #39) » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:57 am

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Vote: PinkMittens


Here's a lesson. As scum, don't be opportunistic. It never works.
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Post Post #436 (isolation #40) » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:48 am

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I've shown the game scum in you. Keep trying to discredit me though, it amuses me how you flail when you're caught.
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Post Post #450 (isolation #41) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:49 am

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Tonight, serious content. Promise,
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Post Post #456 (isolation #42) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:46 am

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I'm prefacing this with a rant, because it has to be said.

Sidebar for shos:


The first game I ever played with you was Mini 1462, way back in 2013. And I was pretty shit at that time, basically sheeping stronger players. In that game, you proved yourself to be one of them, and my estimation of you was high. And you more or less maintained that, until I saw you playing here. I'm giving it to you straight because I'm not fully sure you're scum and you need to hear this. Your play here is fucking awful. You of all people should know that my non-posting here isn't a scumtell; it's a sign of me being lazy and demotivated. I don't understand what you're trying to achieve with your bullshit trolling play. Mindless vote-hopping? What the fuck is this?

And I've been reaching out to you the whole game and you don't want to sync with me. I've shown you scum in #431 and #432. I've complained in #379. YOU KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE #369 IS GENUINE. You were in Mala's Medical Mafia with me. It's the exact same situation. You were wrong there, and you're wrong here too. What I'm starting to think is that you know you're wrong but you're not motivated enough to flip your reads on their head. That's what you need to do here. You know when I get into a game I can be useful but you also know when I'm not I'm a terrible, terrible player. You haven't asked me any useful questions, you haven't tried to talk to me, asked for reads, nothing. You're just standing there and getting manipulated and you don't even notice.

You still have posted NOTHING substantial on me being scummy, you still haven't gone after PinkMittens once, you still haven't done anything. You watched PinkMittens violently sidestep to avoid questions and changed your vote back so fast I'm nearly convinced you were trying to fake paranoia and you're just terrible at doing it. At this stage I'm basically done with you. If you want to actually look Town, if you want to actually contribute, it's time to step up. Otherwise, take a back seat and watch the Town crumble.
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Post Post #457 (isolation #43) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:51 am

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So, let's see what I'm being accused of.

-Did nothing d1
-Scummy lurking
-Excellent policy lynch d2.

Is that it? Is this a joke wagon or do you all have reading deficiencies? I defy you to go back and make a concrete case or SOMETHING on me. Right now there's this pervasive attitude of "TSO is lurking scum." That isn't going to get you anywhere. I've finally been roused enough to stop this policy bullshit.

PinkMittens, shos, snifit:
Make a fucking case or sit the fuck down.
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Post Post #458 (isolation #44) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:39 pm

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In post 25, PinkMittens wrote:Taylor seems to have covered everything, we got this game in the bag!^^

/conf
Starts off the game trying to appease Taylor. Why?
In post 40, PinkMittens wrote:
VOTE: toolenduso
getting defensive before we even enter rvs!
This reeks of fake scumhunting.
In post 46, PinkMittens wrote:
In post 42, toolenduso wrote:Not really. I was just pointing out that they were making scumreads and townreads before the game had even started.

The way players have responded to it since then makes me think it was more of a joke than I originally thought, but now I'm just confused.

@Taylor: Was there actually a reason for your reads in the confirmation stage post, or were you just trying to kickstart discussion?
Only cares about posts aimed at him. Doesn't care about finding scum. Defensive mindset. Scum mentality.
Bullshit of the highest nature. We are on page 2 - I doubt toolenduso ever even comprehended finding scum on page 2, let alone actively look for them. This is an unfair question which targets tool's newness.

As well as mongering negativity towards tool, the post is full of misreps. Tool not understanding one of Taylor's tactics means he "doesn't care about finding scum and has a scum mentality?" Stop right there, you've proven how full of holes your case is by yourself.
In post 78, PinkMittens wrote: Scum: Tool>Cool>TSO.
This is an opportunistic-as-fuck scumlist, where PM doesn't have to stand out from anyone by repeating what they're saying.
In post 79, PinkMittens wrote:What made you change your vote from TSO to tool?
Paraphrased as: "Why did you change your read from my greatest scumread to my weaker scumread?"

He should be delighted he's pressuring scum. Instead, he worries about appearing thoughtful to everyone else. Now THAT'S a scum mentality.
In post 86, PinkMittens wrote:Cool proceeds to completely ignore the most significant occurance in the game, the wagon on tool, and instead proceeds to sheep him. Mentions #joindateelitism, yet builds his entire case on a post easily explained by looking at just that. Nonsense.
The crux of this post is that sheeping tool is scummy, when it's not. We're never told why it's scummy or how he did it is scummy. It's just scummy. That's useless and it doesn't analyse mindset. It's surface deep because the mislynch PinkMittens is pushing is also surface deep.
In post 92, PinkMittens wrote:
In post 87, CooLDoG wrote: sure, whatever, don't give a shit. put your vote with this big talk friend.
Nah I'm "cool". I think your post(s) are nonsense, but I don't see much scum motivation in them either.
You called Cool scum earlier, you called Cool scum later, but the one time Cool put it up to you, you backed the fuck away. Why?
In post 132, PinkMittens wrote: You seem more interested in making friends than anything else lately, and that kinda rubs me the wrong way (just not sure if it's playstyle or not, gotta meta).
How was Benmage attempting to make friends? I don't see it.
In post 132, PinkMittens wrote:Either way I think we have at least one scum in tool, cool & shos.
SO. MUCH. OPPORTUNISM.
In post 132, PinkMittens wrote:Personally I'm not entirely convinced that Naio is town, but his posts seem genuine and I'm definitely leaning town (unfortunately I think he'd feel genuine panick as either alignment though)
This is yet another example of inconsistency with reads and mindset. PinkMittens isn't convinced Naio is Town, but his posts are genuine and he's definitely leaning Town. What is this? Why are you going in circles constantly?
In post 166, PinkMittens wrote:Regarding Tool: I didn't think his initial reaction to Taylor (#21) was terribly scummy, but I did think that it was the scummiest we had at that point (well, about the only thing). Hence I decided to start with my vote there to see reactions/get the game going. I didn't really like the reactions I got. His posts didn't feel genuine/forced, defensive and jumped on the first opportunity to direct us elsewhere (Naio, which I think is a scummy/terrible wagon in general). Once the attention started to shift to the Naio wagon (that he started) he made no intentions of analysing/questioning the responses from Naio, he simply left the vote there and stopped posting until it started to lose steam. His posts after that are decent to me (#127 feels a little town). That being said, those posts would be very easy to make as scum as well, the questions are obvious/already made elsewhere. When he isn't actively pressured (I don't think he is atm, despite being at L-2) he doesn't really seem to have any incentive of providing content. Most people have been posting quite little in general though, so I guess this doesn't mean too much. I will admit that I don't think the case on tool is far from strong, I'm just not sure if I have a better one atm. That being said, O wouldn't really mind a wagon on Cool either, not sure which one I find scummier atm. Those are the only two (you would've been the third before this page) I'm fine voting for atm, I feel kinda unable to read TSO and regarding the rest I'm leaning town/null or they simply haven't provided enough content yet. More on that tomorrow.
This is the only decent posts that PinkMittens made in the whole game, but there was no follow-up on the push on tool. If I made a huge case on a player, I'd push the damn thing hard. PinkMittens didn't, and the only reason I can think of is that one mislynch is the same as the next.
In post 235, PinkMittens wrote:
Do you still think toolenduso is a realistic lynch? Reads on CooLDog and goodmorning?
I wouldn't be terribly upset about a tool lynch, but I don't think the ideal lynch anymore no. Think Cool is scum, not sure about goodmorning.

UNVOTE: for now. I'll re-read the thread when I get home, I've barely gotten a chance to look at it for days, but I'm leaning towards a Cool vote.
Apparently, PinkMittens hasn't read the thread in days, but still thinks CoolDog is scum due to ...wait, nothing. How unconvincing.
In post 375, PinkMittens wrote:I don't want to lynch Taylor right now. Not really sure if town or scum (~null, haven't read this properly lately), but it's active and I like the mindset (found myself agreeing with quite a few things). I'd rather lynch essentially anyone else with votes right now, they are all either less active nulls or leaning scum to me.
This post is completely inconsistent with itself. Let's use the power of paraphrasing:

"Don't want to lynch Taylor. Completely null read. Active, correct mindset, agreed on many things."

How could that be a null read? Answer: it's not.
In post 375, PinkMittens wrote:I'm so not in the game right now (I haven't had time to go through it properly since the site came back) so I kinda hate to vote for someone right now. That being said, I'd hate letting scum control the lynch (especially on someone I don't want dead) way more. Hence I'll be voting Cool, I don't like the mentality/tone (could indeed make him a lynchbait though, but it's the best I have) of his posts, something feels off and I don't think his votes/conclusions make sense. This is hardly set in stone though, and I have a feeling that sheeping snifit might actually be more useful than my own judgement right now.
This, right here, should condemn you to the noose. It's the most cynical, fake, produced reasoning for a mislynch ever. You don't like his mentality or tone? No examples, nothing? No quotes, no anything at all. You even jump the gun by telling us he's lynchbait, and then you vote him anyway.
This makes no sense as a strong scumread.


Earlier in the game, we were told CD was your 2nd highest scumread. This post proves that was a barefaced lie, as you clearly didn't even read CoolDog's ISO.
In post 375, PinkMittens wrote:VOTE: CoolDog


You said right above this post you'd hate to let scum control the lynch and you'd hate to vote, then sheeped the largest lurker-VI wagon going. Your mindset doesn't correlate with your actions.
In post 392, PinkMittens wrote:Just ask for a replacement if you have no interest in playing the game TSO? Your play makes little sense as scum and even less as town.

Anyways, I'm perfectly fine changing my vote to TSO, he's either scum or purposly anti-town. We could do worse for the D-1 lynch.

Zero interest in a Kaze lynch here as well.
Actually, my play makes sense as either. But that's a sidenote.

If my play makes no sense as scum, then why would you vote me? You then bring up the classic "anti-town" line, a sure-fire mislynch quote.

Your opportunism in being on CoolDog but letting people know you'll lynch me, the only two viable wagons, is shocking.
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Post Post #459 (isolation #45) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:41 pm

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And I can tell you that PinkMittens is just gonna come in, talk about 2-3 things, dismiss the case and move on. That's what scum do when they can't address accusations. If you can't see now I'm being genuine as fuck you should vote me, as I'll clearly never be able to convince you.
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Post Post #461 (isolation #46) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:44 pm

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Now, that's everything before the CoolDog lynch. I'll probably go through his other 4 posts later, but there's one that stuck with me:
In post 437, PinkMittens wrote:
In post 436, T S O wrote:I've shown the game scum in you. Keep trying to discredit me though, it amuses me how you flail when you're caught.
I don't really see how I can discredit you better than you do yourself.
shos, go to fucking Specsavers if you were convinced to vote me because of this. PinkMittens doesn't even deny discrediting me! That's yet another slip.

This is really blatant, by the way, and yet again it's one of those posts which you should look at and think, "Do we hang this scumfuck today or do we hang this scumfuck today?" Any other reaction is wrong.
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Post Post #463 (isolation #47) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:49 pm

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In post 459, T S O wrote:And I can tell you that PinkMittens is just gonna come in, talk about 2-3 things, dismiss the case and move on. That's what scum do when they can't address accusations. If you can't see now I'm being genuine as fuck you should vote me, as I'll clearly never be able to convince you.
Called it, yet again.
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Post Post #500 (isolation #48) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:00 am

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I also like Jingle calling Ben's actions scummy despite him flipping town. Seems an open mindset.
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Post Post #501 (isolation #49) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:01 am

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I'm again getting to this game tonight, btw.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #50) » Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:24 am

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That's an excellent vote.

Going to have to post a temporary V/LA: will get on once per day.
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Post Post #570 (isolation #51) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:22 am

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That's ...god.

You spoilered me calling EK a useless fuck and spoilered 5 similar-as-shit posts involving me saying Kaze wasn't conf town. Okay.

I'll reply to it tonight, but suffice to say you've been wasting your time.
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Post Post #583 (isolation #52) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:58 am

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In post 578, Titus wrote:@PM After Kaze posts his thoughts on TSO, I'll probably say how I feel about TSO generally.

However, I'm not going into much depth the way I usually do. The longer scum think I will mislynch town, the longer I live, even if I use the socratic to be sure we lynch scum. Your question is a fair question and I'd give a lot more detail if I wasn't conftown.
You haven't particularly veiled your read on me, Titus. And neither has Kaze.

Let's stop the elaboration.
In post 581, Hannibal wrote:Tool, we aren't lynching Naio or Pink today.
Wrong. Completely wrong, in fact.
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Post Post #590 (isolation #53) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:10 am

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PM's case is good.

That was the point where I stopped believing you, Kaze.
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Post Post #594 (isolation #54) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:23 am

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In post 591, Titus wrote:TSO, other than OMGUS, what reasoning do you have for PM to die? From my spot, y'all look like TvT.
Legitimately, this isn't an OMGUS case. That's the crux of PM's countercase, but it's complete bullshit.

The opportunism of PM going for me when I was down really has my hackles up, but they did it in such an underhanded way that it's scummy as shit. Look at other people: they came up 100% and said why they were doing it with real reasons. PM didn't.

And the countercase? Pfft. I credit it by calling it that. It can be summed up in 4 words: AtE , weak d1 and OMGUS. The first I openly admit isn't completely fake. I did get slightly emotional. If emotion is scummy, then I'll go to the noose. But it's not. The second is such a ridiculous reason to attack me for it's not even worth addressing. Then PM said my reaction to EK was OMGUS when it clearly wasn't and spoilered one post - my only EK interaction - to make the case look bigger. There's no reason for Town to do any of this. Therefore, PM is scum.
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Post Post #596 (isolation #55) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:28 am

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your case makes it obvious it's scum, my case makes it's obvious you're scum, your play makes it obvious you're scum and your flip is going to make it obvious you're scum.
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Post Post #597 (isolation #56) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:29 am

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There are Geographers (Mafia) amongst the crowd for you to find. The Geographers are notorious dry shites and are aiming to whittle down the numbers.

A classic Irish insult, Guyett - you make me proud.
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Post Post #599 (isolation #57) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:33 am

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He's wrong on shos, but him calling flipped-Town Benmage scummy is oh-so-Town.
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Post Post #601 (isolation #58) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:40 am

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Kaze has been such a mixed bag of what-the-fuck I don't honestly know.
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Post Post #602 (isolation #59) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:41 am

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In post 557, Kazekirimaru wrote:Not sure I support the PM vote.
I'm used to town-Kaze being decisive. This isn't it.
In post 526, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 524, Titus wrote:Eww...start with this defensive attitude.
You call it defensive, I'm just trying to be compliant. I've deafened far too many townie ears by being a douche and not trying to level with them.
Is this really true, Kaze?
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Post Post #605 (isolation #60) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:44 am

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You're doing my work for me at this stage, PM. Really.
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Post Post #607 (isolation #61) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:49 am

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JacobSavage - null
Taylor - probs Town
Naio - re-reading.
snifit - Town
T S O - Town
Emerald Kitty - Town
toolenduso - probs Towb
Kazekirimaru - no idea
PinkMittens - scum
shos - Town

Who should I be going after, Titus?
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Post Post #608 (isolation #62) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:50 am

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JS/Naio/PM/Kaze is what I've got as lynchable.
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Post Post #609 (isolation #63) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:50 am

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Also, if ETL and Mastin could step up and start talking, that'd be swell.
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Post Post #612 (isolation #64) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:54 am

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previous play indicates town.
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Post Post #613 (isolation #65) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:55 am

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nah, I prefer to refer to them as separate entities, as opposed to one slot.
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Post Post #615 (isolation #66) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:58 am

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#309 is all you should need.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #67) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:21 am

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We should lynch him for not contributing

He contributes

We should lynch him for not contributing.
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Post Post #654 (isolation #68) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:21 am

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I gave it my best shot, ain't no way I'm getting out of this. Call this scum caught, guys. Push me harder.
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Post Post #657 (isolation #69) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:25 am

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Titus, by the way, I lost any respect I had for you. Fucking brutal U-turn. Incredible, really.

You too, Shos. I hope you guys are scum and I can respect you manipulating town. But if you thought PM's case was, idk, convincing. Then leave.

PEdit: please go

PEdit2: If you're Town, will you re-analyse your play after this game? Please? Promise me that.
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Post Post #659 (isolation #70) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:34 am

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Town 7-shot Vigilante.
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Post Post #660 (isolation #71) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:35 am

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No, really, but I'm nerfed in that I have to use them all in one night. Damn.
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Post Post #662 (isolation #72) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:47 am

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Yeah, I'm not going to be selfhammering.
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Post Post #664 (isolation #73) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:50 am

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It's okay. One of your scumbuddies is gonna have to do it instead.
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Post Post #679 (isolation #74) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:00 pm

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In post 677, shos wrote:Explain to me why i shouldnt lybch you for that come on thingie.

Come on, TSO.
IT'S A TURN OF PHRASE.


NOT THE SUPER DUPER SCUMTELL OF GOD YOU MAKE IT OUT TO BE, AND I'M GOING TO BE VINDICATED WHEN I FLIP.
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Post Post #680 (isolation #75) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:03 pm

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In post 668, Titus wrote:By the way, the personal attack, as town or scum, is not appreciated, TSO.

Shos is town due to his general confusion. He sticks to his reads rather than appeasing me. He reads over the game and posts analysis. There's an outside chance he could be scum, but I don't like him as scum right now.

...personal attack? It's the truth, 100%. Your U-turn was shockingly poor from what I'd expect of you. But then again you misread me in FE:A too and spent the whole day trying to get me lynched, so maybe I can't expect you to read me.
In post 672, JacobSavage wrote:
In post 670, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 659, T S O wrote:Town 7-shot Vigilante.
Disappear.
hahahahaha
scum, but out of sight, out of mnd, right? it's effective, so he does it,
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Post Post #681 (isolation #76) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:04 pm

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In post 674, Titus wrote:
In post 659, T S O wrote:Town 7-shot Vigilante.
Thinking about this... this really looks like a scum claim. Aside from the petulant nature, which both sides may possess, he says 7 shot vigilante. Who said there were 3 scums?
Please tell me this isn't serious

please let me respect you somewhat
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Post Post #682 (isolation #77) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:06 pm

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In post 678, Jingle wrote:I'm feeling town ETL from her response to the Tool case. I see a lot of genuine ETL frustration with a town not responding the way she expects to a case in posts 349-362. My one big concern here is that in my experience, ETL tends to post a lot more as both town and scum, and it's kind of messing with my read on her. I expect that to stop being an issue soon though.

Why is shos town? I'm really not seeing anything convincing as to why so many people think he's so towny, and I hate feeling like I'm missing something. Could someone please elaborate a little more than 'Your case is unconvincing; Shos is town.'? Thanks.

Apparently, TSO's promises to contribute more were empty. I can't say I'm shocked, but it is disappointing. After his supervig claim I really don't see him as contributing anything at this point. That means at worst we lynch a useless townie and at best we get a scum-lynch. Either way, enough people have voiced enough opinions on his wagon that I don't think there's a better option for today in terms of information. I intend to put him at L-1 and thus self-hammer range, unless someone has objections.

Also, fuck my internet connection. I've been trying to post this for almost an hour now.
I. Did. Contribute. I showed you scum. I made a case. I got done by Titus and shos. Full stop. That's it. Content doesn't have anything to do with it.

If you can stop spouting falsities for a page, that'd be excellent.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #78) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:15 am

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In post 700, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
@mod: mastin's computer crashed and he had a car accident. He needs some time before he will be able to post again (he said a day or so).


just quickly noticed TSO just voted conftown? Is that right? Will catch up and post as soon as I get out of work here.
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Post Post #702 (isolation #79) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:23 am

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In post 697, JacobSavage wrote:What I posted here yesterday fool.

T S O why the 7 shot claim, what did you hope to achieve?
This is so incredibly cute, when you get called out for shitposting you arrive on-scene with a questiom intended to look useful, but which in theory is pure horseshit.

What do YOU think scum-TSO intended to achieve with a ridiculous claim, Jacob?
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Post Post #704 (isolation #80) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:28 am

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I'm genuinely having trouble conceiving scum in this game because EVERYONE LOOKS BAD

Jacob, PM, Kaze, Jingle all deserve noose.
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Post Post #706 (isolation #81) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:30 am

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Pick one person in the list you're scumreading.
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Post Post #714 (isolation #82) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:07 am

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You see, PM literally doesn't have a leg to stand on, so they resort to vague accusations and quoting my case on them against me. Great.
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Post Post #716 (isolation #83) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:13 am

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In post 706, T S O wrote:Pick one person in the list you're scumreading.
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Post Post #720 (isolation #84) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:14 am

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In post 717, PinkMittens wrote:
In post 714, T S O wrote:You see, PM literally doesn't have a leg to stand on, so they resort to vague accusations and quoting my case on them against me. Great.
Think those quotes illustrate quite well what I've said before, that you scumread anyone who scumreads you and that the only thing you actually care about is staying alive. Your case is there for the awesome irony;).
All I see is you essentially quoting randomly. But sure, you can take whatever implications you want out of.
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Post Post #733 (isolation #85) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:03 pm

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Re: Naio :

Show me meta where I'm aggressive and condescending as scum
Show me my ridiculous statements
It doesn't mean you're wrong when you're a hypocrite, it just undermines you like fuck.
Aaaaaand the classic gut.

tl;dr nothing.
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Post Post #916 (isolation #86) » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:08 am

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wow

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