Mini 1564 - Nyctapolis (~owari~)

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Let me welcome you to MafiaScum

Vote: Tanzklaue

what a warm welcome. i feel so loved right of the bat <3

Vote: Faster Than Light

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Have we

seriously

not lynched anyone yet?

C'mon, I got things to do.

wanting a lynch not even 12 hours after the day started is antitown. come on, not even everyone confirmed yet.

faking a dayvig shot is just as antitown. not that it would've been less antitown if the shot wasn't fake, as you shot less than 12 hours into the day with neither consensus about who to shoot nor real evidence or potential information on the line.

FTL, it's safe to assume that there is enough information to work with to leave RVS. why put what seems to be a random vote on RB if there are much more important targets for your vote like

VOTE: Shattered Viewpoint

also Raging Bull isn't a newb. i can assure you that he knows what he is doing.

so am i.

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do I* grammar schmammar am i right?

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wanting a lynch not even 12 hours after the day started is antitown. come on, not even everyone confirmed yet.

faking a dayvig shot is just as antitown. not that it would've been less antitown if the shot wasn't fake, as you shot less than 12 hours into the day with neither consensus about who to shoot nor real evidence or potential information on the line.

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In what way are SV's actions antitown? No one actually wants a lynch 12 hours into the game, before even posting. Also, I fail to see how his fake shot is bad. It seemed more like he was hoping he shot a really stupid scum than anything else. I don't see how you could take that post seriously. No one shoots 12 hours into the first day with little information (I hope).

for me it looked more like a veteran trying to fish a really bad reaction from a newbie than a fakeshot that was supposed to be townproductive.

also fakeshooting as your opening post when there are no good targets yet for a real shot doesn't make any sense. no one would ever react to that at all if they aren't really inexperienced.

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i am new and nervous, i will probably warm up later and get into the rhythm of things.

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For Tanz,
in your second post you said that you knew what you were doing. Then later, after IL says something about you, you revert to "im new and nervous"..Why the flip flop?

I am new and nervous on this site. i have played my fair share of mafia games.

up to now, not much of interest happened except remilia bleeding town and the fake vig shot. can't say too much about the rest, they are null for me (have even all people who signed up posted yet?)

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remilia bleeding town

Explain this, I've gotten nothing I'm really looking for out of those two.

I'm getting townvibes off of CD's posting.

gut. also high activity compared to everyone else, and almost no fluff.

why do you get townvibes from CD?

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I will probably not be able to answer all questions to full satisfaction, but i will try.

basically any post from bork (29, =21468]37 and 77 especially) just give me the warm feeling of a townie. i don't see any scumintentions in asking those questions. if gif had asked them i would be more vary because gif is a cheeky crafty bastard, but bork gives me more of a serious, less crazy feel (could be wrong, dunno, never played with him).

the RB wagon is thoroughly uninteresting and i think partially still just kinda RVS-ish, but now that you mentioned the CD wagon: it is interesting how IL and remilia jump on him at approximately the same time. though i have null-scum feelings on CD for posts like 19 (asking others for opinions while not giving your own, especially early game this is kinda eh) and also for keeping the discussion around iamsteve instead of letting it move on (though that's partially other peoples fault too). also him saying that t/s lists are dumb because not alignmentindicative is pretty bad.
but back to the wagon, i already said i townread remilia, and IL is also strongly townleaning. i don't think scum would ask this many questions and be this active if the game goes on in slug pace. scum would rather do what i (and most others, to my defense) did: wait for something more interesting.
I said that i am nervous because this site basically has the reputation of being THE mafia site on the internet. imagine playing for your local team in a sports and suddenly you get thrown into the top level of competition. you would be nervous too wouldn't you?
i am a fluffy person, especially when not much happens. it helps me to keep my interest in the game. also this game has way more inactive and uninvested players than me (for example SV), and i think for the overall activitycurve, my activity level is on the lower level of okay.

other reads? I got a townread on TNE for his entry (133), and i get slight scumvibes from notsakura for expecting some kind of magical "I am town" sign from remilia/gif. if i learned something in my games with gif off site, then that you can't read him based on some magical words. empking and Number_0ne hit my pings for general inactivity and unproductivity.

rest that wasn't mentioned in any of the paragraphs above is null.

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now my question: from where exactly do the scum reads on me manifest @gif and FTL?

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@Tanz: You can use post tags to link to a specific post in a thread like this

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[post]123[/post]

Which becomes: 123

*heavy breathing*

@Tanz: Why is the RB wagon uninteresting and RVS-ish?

because it is.
all the votes stated on him throughout this game were random votes.

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except i neither dodged questions nor do i hardcore lurk.

i am also pretty sure that we weren't in the same game for over half a year TNE.

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Also Tanz can go back to the null pile now that i've seen his first scum game, due to paranoia added to the fact that I haven't seen him do much this game yet. Being on MS is understandable cause of feeling nervous, but not a reason to not do anything to move the game forward.

I knew this was going to happen

VOTE: Cheery Dog

this is L-1, so state the intend of hammering before putting any vottes on him.

...not that anyone here wouldn't know, it's MS after all.

@notSakura: i don't think multipressuring works like that, especially if one wagon is almost L-1. why put your vote on SV relatively uselessly?

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I also want opinions on the CD wagon from all three iamsteve, SV and RB when they show up again.

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because i think that pressuring CD atm will be way more useful than pressuring SV uselessly.

SV is still on my list, but first things first and the first thing to concern me is CD.

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You'd had many chances to pressure CD, why do it now that I vote SV and then call out my vote being useless?

I planned to vote CD, but wasn't entirely sure of it.

i also wouldn't shy away from the wagon based on it being L-5 if i thought that it wasn't a useless vote.

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honestly if SV and i would be scum i would be really mad about him and policy bus him.

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with people like SV in this game who seem to only want to lynch something for thesake of it, his unvote is understandable.

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I so regret moving my vote.

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@Tanz why do you think SV is a better lynch? I have my own opinions, but I want to hear your thoughts first.

scum painting me and doing so clumsily and badly.

still absolutely no contribution.

openly showed flags that he only cares for the lynch (no reasoning given for the voting).

moves vote to you for literally no reason other than unvoting CD (which was for obvious reasons that you even explained).

I don't know if SV always does this kind of shit, and i know that i sound like i want the easy obvlynch, but i get the feeling that if we don't policy lynch this slot it will bite us back later. you can't safely put someone on L-1 with a -excuse my language- lunatic like that roaming about freely. his vote devalues the wagon he is on, simply because there is no real motivation behind it. and last but not least, everyone else here has shown at least basic cooperation or even more watered down interest in this game. SV doesn't.

also @empking: i don't know where you got this from. we were pressuring CD heavily, yes, but SV with his play was i think always on the table aswell.

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Empking: why do you think that CD is a good vote? you placed your vote very early on him, things changed since then. any new opinions except a supposed bad reaction to SV's fake shooting?

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L-1 is normally the point where you start talking and answering questions.

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Tanz would get it for that post I quoted in my last post.

you do realize that i in no way said that people shouldn't talk unless being put to L-1?

i much rather said that L-1 is the point where you have tio talk or die.

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are you really that bad at reading comprehension and simple logic?

it's the point where you start talking to save your fucking life and show your towny intentions.

btw. SV: reads and reasons. now.

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is prod dodging a thing on this site?

anyway, i kinda don't like the general "lynching for lynchings sake" attitude in this game :/

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that nightkill wasn't done by a scum, and if it was then wtf is wrong with our scum.

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Because of a BS vote and because I'm the type of player who has to have his vote on SOMEONE if they're even a tiny bit scummy. The NK is shitty because it hit a VT who was likely going to get lynched today otherwise. I meant shitty from the perspective of the NK'er, not me BTW. It's a fantastic NK for town because it probably prevented what would have likely otherwise been a mislynch.

so you think the NK was done by mafia?

what reasons would mafia have for such a nightkill?

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I think if vig had anyone to shoot after day 1, it was SV.

i am pretty certain that the nightkill wasn't scummotivated.

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also a lynch is much more valuable than a vig shot. you can read into a lynch. you can't read into a vig shot too much.

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IL just seems to not know that vigging scumsuspects is normal courtesy in mafia.

i am disconnected to this game though, I will reread when i find my motivation again.

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Anyway gg, this is probably my worst game to date and a perfect way to finish out a career of terrible scumhunting!

don't worry, nobody had a good performance here short of the enomis slot and undo.

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basically IL and NS claimed scum (by action and claim respectively) on day 3. that's the big gripe i had watching this game unfold. that nobody followed up on it.

gg scum, next time you'll hang.

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Holy snap this is the longest scum qt I have ever seen I swear

You haven't seen Nacho x Muffin scum QTs then.

even mine and RBs scum QT pales in comparison to that.

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though we had the more hilarious topics to talk about. and it had me being paranoid and sinister for over a hundred posts.